@dexter2604 Nexus One does have a very weak GPU to be honest. Nexus S is where google takes pride of GPU performance which will beat the iphone 3gs and 4 in theory
@chrischoy9 1 more read my comment and slap yourself ok ? dude you dont understand android devices you are apple dumb, bc 2.1 android on N1 its epic fcked 2.2 and 2.3 is fixed and in benchmark is diferent over 700 points dude slap yourself
@dexter2604 Dude, why doesn't anyone understand how android works!!?? Android 2.2 has added JIT which only reduces stress on the CPU, not the GPU. Apple is not my type else I would have compared it with iShit. Adreno 200 GPU has poor fill rate, 133 M Poly/sec, Nexus one's screen on 2D images already uses 70% of GPU power.
That is why I went with SGS with PowerVR SGX540!! It has 1G poly/sec fill rate and also higher higher triangles per second output.
@irkek40 No it isn't ... The Nexus has the Snap Dragon 1GHz ... where as the iPhone has a Cortex A8 600 Mhz (underclocked) ... Face it Apple knows how to use the processor efficiently .. :) .. God Bless
lol, those games run faster on the iPhone because of lower screen resolution and better optimisation for iOS than for Android.
It is like comparing 1280x720 to 1920x1080 PC games resolution.
I've got 3GS and Samsung Wave S8500. The games on the iPhone run faster but looks like it needs some anti-alising on it, when on the Wave (800x480 res) same games run slower but look better.
@altu892 It would be blurry at iphone's resolution on nexus one's display if he did so. I won't escape the fact that Adreno 200 on the nexus one is a awful lot weaker than PowerVR 353 on the iphone
@mattehISme Yes...But even if they had the same resolution. The SGX 535 is more powerful than an Adreno 200. The Adreno 205 and SGX 540 found in the G2 and Nexus S can beat the iPhone, but not old Adreno 200 phones like the HTC Evo, Droid Incredible, Nexus One. Once the guy added a lot of characters, the 3GS was bottlenecked by the CPU not the GPU.
Nexus is a better phone. Also Linus platform and Android rape the shit out of crappy iOS. With Froyo on the N1, it makes it 50x faster than the ass shit iphone.
@chrischoy9 Lol this video is about the Nexus One, not the Nexus S. Also both the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4 use an SGX 535, not an SGX 530. An SGX 535 driver was found in both devices, and in benchmarks they scored over 20 million polygons/second, which is higher than the 14 million fill rate cap of the SGX 530. In iOS 4.3 Beta firmware, bundles for a dual core SGX 543MP2 was found...giving roughly 2-3X the performance of an SGX 540 and 4-5X the performance compared to an SGX 535.
its so funny you always get fandroids raving about their precious snapdragon and yet when you put it to the test iphone always comes out winner hahahahah
@Mutterjunge andorid 2.2 froyo can run on iphone if i wanted it of coarse ❤i dont want it❤ but can you run ios on your andorid os i dont think so FANDROID ....xD
@neoarcadezr I have flashed a customized version Android 2.2 onto my phone. SO yes, there is customization in what OS i put on my phone. And if I could put IOS on my phone, i never ever would! My phone and widget and Flash support, yours doesn't. So... enjoy your iPhone...
@TrevorMFTW u cant have ios on it evene if u wanted flash is usless on a phone it just drains battery and is pointless widgets are ok nothing special
@TheReapersSon the iphone renderer is more optimized cause it supports floating point to speed up graphics operations this is not yet implemented in android however when more characters are added it becomes CPU limited as a result the nexus one can sustain closer to its original FPS than the 3gs which runs a significantly slower CPU
the snapdragon platform isnt slower than the iphone hardware its just that atm ios is more mature and supports more optimizations, in the future this may change
I love that he fails to mention how fast the 3gs dropped from 60 to 30 adding more people where the nexus only dropped 9 frames adding the same amount to it. Talk is cheap. Yea the iphone had more frames 1v1 but in a game with a lot of moving objects it will fail hard due to its processor where the nexus will maintain its performance.
@Snowintosh That's great. Now show me some amazing looking games on the Android market that can compete with Real Racing 2 and Infinity Blade on the iOS platform. Not to mention iOS 4.3 has drivers for a dual core SGX 543MP2 graphics chip which completely rapes the Nexus S graphics 3 times over and also edges out the Tegra 2.
@Snowintosh Huh? Real Racing 2 and Infinity Blade have better graphics than anything on playstation suite. Also I have a Galaxy S. I love Android, but iOS is way better for gaming (I have an iPod touch too...) and the iOS UI runs a hell of a lot smoother than Android (Android needs GPU Acceleration to match it...hopefully coming in 3.0). Another thing...what do you mean RIP iPhone? The iPhone isn't going anywhere. Both platforms have their benefits and weaknesses and they are just about equal.
@TheRishBOB PlayStation Suite hasn't started yet. And yes, it will have better games than iPhone. Ohh, and your Galaxy S may not be as smooth as my HTC phone. HTC has a better hardware than Samsung.
@Snowintosh Also if you say your HTC is as smooth as an iPhone 4, you have never used an iPhone 4. Either you're jealous, or your too arrogant to admit that iOS has its own benefits over Android and vice-versa.
@Snowintosh "Make the video again using the Nexus S with Android 2.3 Gingerbread. OWNED" Lol? Really? Owning a phone from 2009? That's a great achievement...now it's 2011. And of course it will beat the iPhone 4, the iPhone 4 has double the resolution of a Nexus S and a less powerful graphics chip.
@Snowintosh By saying that HTC has better hardware than Samsung you already proved that you don't know what you're talking about.The Hummingbird is way better than the shitty Snapdragon chips found in HTC phones, precisely why I bought a Samsung over HTC.Also, of course the Nexus S is better. It's 6 months newer. But it has a shitty camera.Not sure why it's missing HD video recording.The iPhone 4 was the best phone on the market AT RELEASE.And the iPhone 5 will be too. With dual core CPU + GPU.
Nexus One IS NOT LIMITED like the iPhone. The processor on the 3GS is under clocked while the Nexus one is 1GHz. The Nexus one can do WAY more anyways... including MAKING CALLS. And the screen on the Nexus One is WAY better that the iPhone 3GSs screen.
@akbisw Good point, the nexus will have just over double the pixels to push if they are both running at native resolutions. That would make the Nexus more capable despite the lack of optimizations.
well... because the iphone 3gs's apps are run natively on the device, while the android(nexus one) using a virtual machine to run the code and a bunch of background service. However, the nexus one got a faster hardware(the 1GHz processor!) , so I think it will run much faster than iphone 3gs if the nexus one's apps run natively on the device.
As you see, Nexus 1GHz processor is not the bottleneck. I have heard that the GPU in iPhone is very fast. Also you can run native apps on Android too with a java wrapper (that doesn't actually affect the performance).
Also the resolution in Nexus One is about double the iPhones, so no wonder if the iPhones FPS is about double of Nexus Ones.
iPhones FPS was dropping so hard, and that maybe tells about (slow) CPU being the bottleneck. Too bad reviewer didn't test this though.
@wallyllaw I think that usually the GPU dosent faster than a CPU, so anyway for computing, the nexus one is faster, but for the graphics, iphone faster... So I think google should separate the cpu and gpu in next generation of android.
One of the most important differences between these two devices is the fact that the Nexus has a much higher resolution screen,which means that the GPU has to fill 2.5 times as many pixels on the Nexus than iPhone.OK,so let’s change the viewport on the Nexus to the same size as the iPhone just so we can compare the two equally.With just two characters,switching the viewport size to 480×320 on the Nexus,give a frame-rate improvement from 30fps to 40fps but with 8 characters there is no difference
The Nexus one may render with a lower frame rate, but I don't really visually see much difference in that respect. Given that the Nexus one has a higer display resolution that's okay. And after all: The scene clearly looks better on the Nexus, probably due to the better display.
How about you actually try adding another TEN characters, I bet you'll fine the Nexus faster than the iPhone, since each character only caused a 2.5 fps drop on the Nexus where as the iPhone dropped like 8 frames each time :D
The 3GS is still a wonderfully fast phone. I am really not bias between either of them. I love them both, but the iPhone still performs better whatever excuse you can come up with.
people who are trying to find an excuse for the Nexus, shut the fuck up... Iphone 3gs was introduced in july 2009 whereas the nexus one is 2010...
So stop saying that the framerate of the iphone is dropping quickly or other excuses.. the funny thing is that the 3gs is still beating the nexus one even with a slower processor..
@DataCutter The shading might be due to the N1's better screen, which has richer colors. And you make a good point about code optimization, NeoCore runs beautifully on my Nexus One, especially after the 2.2 upgrade
@DataCutter Actually the shading on the walls look cartoony and over-saturated. There's a degree of subtly in the way color bleeds onto surfaces in real-life, not to mention Apple's display architecture is generally more developed particularly in the area of color accuracy.
@DataCutter Actually, in a performance test, equal footing would be one where each phone can show their potential without anything hampering them. If optimization gives the iPhone an advantage in real-life scenarios, then I think it would be quite unfair to deny it the opportunity. Wouldn't give a true picture of it's potential. Of course, owning neither, I don't know if perhaps some different optimization technique is denied to the android, that would give it the advantage.
@DataCutter God damn it the SGX 535 is better than an Adreno 200 and that is a fact. Make all the excuses you want. However newer Android devices can easily beat the iPhone since the Adreno 205 and SGX 540 are quite a bit more powerful.
Galaxy S and Droid X are probably going to be the best two Android devices for gaming. The original Droid is still great though.
The snapdragons aren't that great for gaming. It sucks... but some games are optimized... Raging Thunder II, Exzeus Arcade... both have heavy graphics and play beautifully.
The fill rate on the Adreno GPU on the Snapdragons is low...
However, it could be optimized by using smaller textures and abusing the fact that it can do 22million triangles/second.
f you calculate the resolution of each the devices, you will know that the Nexus is more than 3x more powerful than the Iphone 3GS. (When 8 characters are on)
everyone has just said that the nexus one has to power double the resolution, and that the framrate drop si minor next to the iphone which dropped 50%.
Yep, Lots of new features for the 4g such as a display that appeared to have a higher resolution than that of the iPhone 3GS
Most of you people watchin' this vid don't have the money to buy the iPhone 4g, since it will be almost 500 bucks
Good news, I learned on Apples facebook page Friday they are giving away a few thousand iPhone 4gs. Also, heres the link to their contest website ... just copy and paste
You Fucking retards, he said that both the benchmarks are running at the same resolution! Also Nexus one doesn't have good gpu because its integrated to the snapdragon, Iphone has PowerVR and it has better 3D performance. Snapdragon would be faster with a decent GPU.
Nexus might have a higher resolutions screen, but anyone who thinks this demo is running at 2x the resolution on the Nexus is smoking crack. There's an identical number of polygons he said 11,000, that's for both.
@jr92503 Number of polygons has nothing to do with resolution. You can run a PC game at 2 different resolutions with the same number of polygons, but the higher resolution will force more pixels to be updated on the screen every frame. That's more work for the video card (and why video card benchmarks always show a decrease in performance as you increase the resolution).
I can't say whether the Android is maintaining its native resolution here, but if it is, the resolution argument is valid.
@iPlaya93 it is not that he is running more than double the resolution on the N1. it's exactly like PC games try to run a PC game on a resolution then double it and compare the frames. if this guy is serious about this he would get an iphone 4 and this nexus one to prove us wrong (without even updating it to froyo)
@iPlaya93 Yes lets try with iOS 4, iPhone 4 (with more than Nexus resolution) and see, still iPhone will beat Nexus one or even Galaxy S.
Reason is the way Android run's its apps are different from the way iOS does it, with the concept of linked libraries Android Apps will always end up being smaller in size but at the same time they wouldn't preform as good, secondly compiler for iOS 4 uses pure native code generation, with limits already set in OS.
@Greeniemaxx do you even know what you are saying or you saw all this somewhare else? nexus has double the resolution of 3gs and that raises the cpu usage. try it on iphone 4 and you will see who is the winner.
@Greeniemaxx it can beat nexus 1, but not nexus s. Iphone 4 has apple a4 underclocked to 800mhz and PowerVR SGX 530. Nexus S has lower res, 1GHz sumsung cpu and newer PowerVR SGX 540. Don't think that just because its pure google and android, nothing beat the iphone BECAUSE in real life, higher spec proofs it, gingerbread 2.3 also enhances more gpu juice
@chrischoy9 I have nothing against Android, but as fo now Android OpenGL stacks and GPU drivers are a mess. It's not Google's fault it's OEMs like Samsung and HTC that cheap out on driver software and limit the potential of their devices. Also as I was saying earlier, the SGX 543 MP2 when using two cores at 200 MHz each also edges out the Tegra 2 in fill rate, but has over double the shader/vertex performance due to having 16 shaders/ALUs over the 8 of the Tegar 2.
if the nexus resolution is double that of the iphone (and it seems to be) then running the same screen at different resolutions is NOT a fair test. any numpty could tell you that. try again plz :)
I did the exact same thing, I didn't upgrade my 3g to 3gs, just have a feeling that it will be worth the wait
Alot of people Browsing this comment don't have the money to afford new iPhone, since it will be $497
But I realized on the Apple website Sunday they are giving away a ton of iphone 4gs. Save ya some time, this will take you to Apples contest website copy + paste
First of all, you do realise that apps for android are written in java? And do you realise that only the upcoming android 2.2 will have JIT compiler, which will boost system's app-performance 450%? (initially they said 3 times, but thanx to maths magic they boosted it even more :-) )
Next, it doesn't really depend on the resolution either, the graphics chip should handle it good on both resolutions.
But, now show me the same test with JIT or without OS dude!nexus wins
@dguy107 you must be kiddin...yeah maybe android but windows mobile is the biggest crap after symbian......apple is not releasing their phones almost every two months...when you buy htc,you could be better htc next month.....thats why i didnt buy evo 4g because i heard that they are gonna release new phone with 1.5 ghz
The resolution is bigger on the nexus and the frame rate drop is only 33% or so when you add the modles. Whereas on the iphone the drop in frame rate is 50%. The Nexus has a much better GPU and CPU. You would have to drop the resolution down on the nexus in order to compare apples to apples. You can put lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig. Nexus wins.
the problem with the droid and nexus one are that the screen resolutions are high so even if they have the same hardware (droid, for the most part have similar hardware) games will not run as fluidly as in an iphone
The user said on his earlier posts that iphone 3GS and the nexus one are both using the same resolution in this benchmark. This proofs that Motorola Droid, nokia n900 and the Palm Pre all have better 3D performance than nexus one because they all have PowerVR and the same excact processor, I rest my case
you can tell by the rate at which the frame rate drops that while the iphone can run more frames per second, the nexus has a more powerful processor since the iphone's framerate was cut in half while the nexus lost only one third after more characters were added...still i was pretty dissapointed with the google phone =[, i wanted to see the iphone get beat...
@isthisnickvalid I think it is. I am yet to see anyone run anything better than Quake on a HTC phone. Where as all the Cortex phones Ip 3Gs/N900/Driod all have people whizzing around in quake 3 on them.
The 600Mhz-1Ghz snapdragon SoC is just not for 3D games. Thats all. Given that most 2.1 devices are going to be powered by them for some time to come the Android platform will be out of contention for high powered games for a while.
@isthisnickvalid well...look at the framerates. maybe to play games, the android one is going to have to lower the resolution, causing more alaising. this is what happens when a company does not think a head.
the nexus 1 is having to power double the resolution the iphone is having to which explains the frame rate difference. You can see the nexus is more powerful as the frame drop is very minor whereas the iphones frame drop is massive
@jjbdoggg Liar, only if your at the fill rate limit the Iphones GFX chip has a fill rate 5x that of the Nexus. So even if you turned up the resolution the Iphone would still win.
This is a simple case of the 1GHz snapdragon with Adreno 200 GPU(cheaper+worse) vs 600Mhz Cortex with Pvr(Better)
Its no contest. If you want 3D gaming on the Android, 2 choices: Motorola Driod that has a A8-Cortex+powerVr (just like the Iphone 3gs) or wait for the Samsung Galaxy S that has the 'hummingbird' chipset
@jjbdoggg Read the correspondent blogpost: Nexus One is slower even when they reduce the resolution. "Nexus one is more powerful because the frame drop is lower"? What kind of logic is that? Both min and max fps are way lower than on the iPhone.
@jjbdoggg Wut? The GPU in the iPhone 3GS is much better than what is equipped with the Snapdragon. It isn't a secret the Snapdragon has a weak GPU. Go look at the technical specs of both GPU's and you'll see.
omfg with lower display its logical iShit had better fps but when will nexus 2.2 or 2.3 iPhone shit dont have chance pffff
dexter2604 1 month ago
@dexter2604 Nexus One does have a very weak GPU to be honest. Nexus S is where google takes pride of GPU performance which will beat the iphone 3gs and 4 in theory
chrischoy9 1 month ago
@chrischoy9 1 more read my comment and slap yourself ok ? dude you dont understand android devices you are apple dumb, bc 2.1 android on N1 its epic fcked 2.2 and 2.3 is fixed and in benchmark is diferent over 700 points dude slap yourself
dexter2604 1 month ago
@dexter2604 Dude, why doesn't anyone understand how android works!!?? Android 2.2 has added JIT which only reduces stress on the CPU, not the GPU. Apple is not my type else I would have compared it with iShit. Adreno 200 GPU has poor fill rate, 133 M Poly/sec, Nexus one's screen on 2D images already uses 70% of GPU power.
That is why I went with SGS with PowerVR SGX540!! It has 1G poly/sec fill rate and also higher higher triangles per second output.
chrischoy9 1 month ago
Hahahahaha, i love fanboys... xD
productionmaniacp98 3 months ago
Haha, now try your ios4 iphone 3gs vs nexus one 2.3.6 gingerbread. See who wins.
cmdrtomalacc 4 months ago
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What is faster?
Nexus Display is 800*480 but iPhone is 320*480
Nexus processor is 1ghz and iPhone 3gs has 600mhz(0.6ghz)
By the way iPhone is locked on 60 fps as it would go much higher.....
xphilipgrx 5 months ago
epic fail 800x480 vs 320x480
irkek40 6 months ago 7
@irkek40 No it isn't ... The Nexus has the Snap Dragon 1GHz ... where as the iPhone has a Cortex A8 600 Mhz (underclocked) ... Face it Apple knows how to use the processor efficiently .. :) .. God Bless
john4short 3 months ago
@john4short It's the graphics processor, the one on the Google nexus one is weak as hell
chrischoy9 1 month ago
well that wasnt very unbiased
majsbullen 8 months ago
can you make a comprasion between xperia play and iphone 4 in terms of performance
TheBlackbirdii 9 months ago
Phone wars!!!
3, 2, 1, Fight!
SurfinBirdin 10 months ago
@SurfinBirdin hahaha
visaopsicodelica 7 months ago
Xbox 360 & PS3 win!!!! HAhahhaahahah!! get a console if you wanted a real graphic guys~!
satAxOnic 10 months ago
@satAxOnic Ok, I'll carry my PS3 in my pocket everyday.
ccchackalll 10 months ago
@satAxOnic haha you serious?
majsbullen 8 months ago
lol, those games run faster on the iPhone because of lower screen resolution and better optimisation for iOS than for Android.
It is like comparing 1280x720 to 1920x1080 PC games resolution.
I've got 3GS and Samsung Wave S8500. The games on the iPhone run faster but looks like it needs some anti-alising on it, when on the Wave (800x480 res) same games run slower but look better.
KXEnKO 11 months ago 3
@KXEnKO the benchmark creator said that he force the graphic render at iphone's resolution.
altu892 4 months ago
@altu892 It would be blurry at iphone's resolution on nexus one's display if he did so. I won't escape the fact that Adreno 200 on the nexus one is a awful lot weaker than PowerVR 353 on the iphone
chrischoy9 1 month ago
@chrischoy9 we could not say adreno 200 is a awful lot weaker..... but powerVR 353 defiantly better
altu892 1 month ago
@altu892 But fill rate is like 8-9 times better than adreno 200
chrischoy9 1 month ago
@chrischoy9 ok :D
altu892 1 month ago
jailbroken ipod4 wins ALL, now go on, try to argue with me :P
socomkid2016 1 year ago
you also forgot to mention that because of the higher screen resolution meaning more pixels it should get a lower framerate. derp
mattehISme 1 year ago
@mattehISme Yes...But even if they had the same resolution. The SGX 535 is more powerful than an Adreno 200. The Adreno 205 and SGX 540 found in the G2 and Nexus S can beat the iPhone, but not old Adreno 200 phones like the HTC Evo, Droid Incredible, Nexus One. Once the guy added a lot of characters, the 3GS was bottlenecked by the CPU not the GPU.
TheRishBOB 11 months ago
@NuclearMuffin1
ok, new samsung is better but, iphone games still better in ALL.
CodZombies, bad company 2, fifa 11, shadow guardian, skate it, x2 snowboarding, and search this on youtube:
Infinity Blade iPhone gameplay (xbx360 graphics like).
Android get RAPED,
allan136Q 1 year ago
320x480 (3gs) = faster than 800x480 (nexus)
jknvv13 1 year ago
One is NTSC, one is PAL.
ElevationLowJJ 1 year ago
lesbian orgy!
MrZippo92 1 year ago
2.2 slows down my galaxy s hangs every time
965halfevil 1 year ago
@noobdeagle whoa. what does that mean in english?
IronReaver17 1 year ago
Nexus is a better phone. Also Linus platform and Android rape the shit out of crappy iOS. With Froyo on the N1, it makes it 50x faster than the ass shit iphone.
Mutterjunge 1 year ago
What a lame fight! FAIL!!
aero2146 1 year ago
This makes sense. The SGX 535 pwns the shit out of the Nexus's crappy Adreno GPU.
TheRishBOB 1 year ago
@TheRishBOB iphone3gs has PowerVR SGX 530
chrischoy9 11 months ago
@chrischoy9 Lol this video is about the Nexus One, not the Nexus S. Also both the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4 use an SGX 535, not an SGX 530. An SGX 535 driver was found in both devices, and in benchmarks they scored over 20 million polygons/second, which is higher than the 14 million fill rate cap of the SGX 530. In iOS 4.3 Beta firmware, bundles for a dual core SGX 543MP2 was found...giving roughly 2-3X the performance of an SGX 540 and 4-5X the performance compared to an SGX 535.
TheRishBOB 11 months ago
its so funny you always get fandroids raving about their precious snapdragon and yet when you put it to the test iphone always comes out winner hahahahah
neoarcadezr 1 year ago
@neoarcadezr
how many times have you sucked Steve Jobs cock? btw android 2.2 makes the N1 faster than the iphone 4... so fuck off slave boy
Mutterjunge 1 year ago
@Mutterjunge andorid 2.2 froyo can run on iphone if i wanted it of coarse ❤i dont want it❤ but can you run ios on your andorid os i dont think so FANDROID ....xD
neoarcadezr 1 year ago
@neoarcadezr I have flashed a customized version Android 2.2 onto my phone. SO yes, there is customization in what OS i put on my phone. And if I could put IOS on my phone, i never ever would! My phone and widget and Flash support, yours doesn't. So... enjoy your iPhone...
TrevorMFTW 1 year ago
@TrevorMFTW u cant have ios on it evene if u wanted flash is usless on a phone it just drains battery and is pointless widgets are ok nothing special
neoarcadezr 1 year ago
is stUpid
xDarcangel007 1 year ago
How is it that the Nexus one only loses 10 fps while the 3GS loses 30 FPS with the same number of characters added?
TheReapersSon 1 year ago 2
@TheReapersSon the iphone renderer is more optimized cause it supports floating point to speed up graphics operations this is not yet implemented in android however when more characters are added it becomes CPU limited as a result the nexus one can sustain closer to its original FPS than the 3gs which runs a significantly slower CPU
the snapdragon platform isnt slower than the iphone hardware its just that atm ios is more mature and supports more optimizations, in the future this may change
noobdeagle 1 year ago
nexus has higher res screen then the iphone 3g or 3gs.
JEEPOFFROADV8 1 year ago 3
whats the name of this app pls??
Salierification 1 year ago
If you used a taskiller i'm sure it would have performed a lot better.
fladoodel 1 year ago
Fail review, Apple is not made for gaming now please quit the nonsense.
jasonking48 1 year ago
@distinctivegame Can you please do a "new" comparison of the nexus one running froyo and the iphone 3gs?
Thanks
swenflea 1 year ago
Nexus Display is 800*480 but iPhone is 320*480
chaiwat01 1 year ago 33
@chaiwat01 but nexus has 40% more cpu mhz than iphone.
MegaAbzzzzz 3 months ago
I love that he fails to mention how fast the 3gs dropped from 60 to 30 adding more people where the nexus only dropped 9 frames adding the same amount to it. Talk is cheap. Yea the iphone had more frames 1v1 but in a game with a lot of moving objects it will fail hard due to its processor where the nexus will maintain its performance.
Gatsurendo 1 year ago 2
Make the video again but the Nexus One running Android 2.2 Froyo.
Snowintosh 1 year ago 51
@Snowintosh
Make the video again but with iPhone 4
Hahaha OWNED
allan136Q 1 year ago
@allan136Q Make the video again using the Nexus S with Android 2.3 Gingerbread. OWNED.
Snowintosh 1 year ago
@Snowintosh
i repeat, THE GAMES WILL BE STILL BETTER
CodZombies, bad company 2, fifa 11, shadow guardian, skate it, x2 snowboarding, and search this on youtube:
Infinity Blade iPhone gameplay (xbx360 graphics like).
Android get RAPED,
allan136Q 1 year ago
@allan136 Gingerbread is focused in game development to make competition with Apple. The Nexus S graphics rapes the one on the iPhone 4.
Snowintosh 1 year ago
@Snowintosh
the time will say if iPhone or any android iPhone is better.
allan136Q 1 year ago
@allan136Q Its "Time will tell". Go learn english before you start dissing on the internet. PS, Android is and will always be better.
siriusgamer 1 year ago
@Snowintosh That's great. Now show me some amazing looking games on the Android market that can compete with Real Racing 2 and Infinity Blade on the iOS platform. Not to mention iOS 4.3 has drivers for a dual core SGX 543MP2 graphics chip which completely rapes the Nexus S graphics 3 times over and also edges out the Tegra 2.
TheRishBOB 11 months ago
@TheRishBOB What OS will get PlayStation Suite? Ohh yea... Android 2.3 Gingerbread. RIP iPhone.
Snowintosh 11 months ago
@Snowintosh Huh? Real Racing 2 and Infinity Blade have better graphics than anything on playstation suite. Also I have a Galaxy S. I love Android, but iOS is way better for gaming (I have an iPod touch too...) and the iOS UI runs a hell of a lot smoother than Android (Android needs GPU Acceleration to match it...hopefully coming in 3.0). Another thing...what do you mean RIP iPhone? The iPhone isn't going anywhere. Both platforms have their benefits and weaknesses and they are just about equal.
TheRishBOB 11 months ago
@TheRishBOB PlayStation Suite hasn't started yet. And yes, it will have better games than iPhone. Ohh, and your Galaxy S may not be as smooth as my HTC phone. HTC has a better hardware than Samsung.
Snowintosh 11 months ago
@Snowintosh Also if you say your HTC is as smooth as an iPhone 4, you have never used an iPhone 4. Either you're jealous, or your too arrogant to admit that iOS has its own benefits over Android and vice-versa.
TheRishBOB 11 months ago
@TheRishBOB I've used a lot of iPhone 4s and trust me, HTC Sense UI is as smooth as the iPhone 4.
Snowintosh 11 months ago 5
@Snowintosh "Make the video again using the Nexus S with Android 2.3 Gingerbread. OWNED" Lol? Really? Owning a phone from 2009? That's a great achievement...now it's 2011. And of course it will beat the iPhone 4, the iPhone 4 has double the resolution of a Nexus S and a less powerful graphics chip.
TheRishBOB 11 months ago
@TheRishBOB Nexus S kills the iPhone 4. Galaxy S 2 will have a dual-core 1GHz Orion Processor. That will rape iPhone 4.
Snowintosh 11 months ago
@Snowintosh By saying that HTC has better hardware than Samsung you already proved that you don't know what you're talking about.The Hummingbird is way better than the shitty Snapdragon chips found in HTC phones, precisely why I bought a Samsung over HTC.Also, of course the Nexus S is better. It's 6 months newer. But it has a shitty camera.Not sure why it's missing HD video recording.The iPhone 4 was the best phone on the market AT RELEASE.And the iPhone 5 will be too. With dual core CPU + GPU.
TheRishBOB 11 months ago
Lets see the N1 with froyo!!!!
snoprosledneck88 1 year ago
Nexus One IS NOT LIMITED like the iPhone. The processor on the 3GS is under clocked while the Nexus one is 1GHz. The Nexus one can do WAY more anyways... including MAKING CALLS. And the screen on the Nexus One is WAY better that the iPhone 3GSs screen.
BigMeanNinja 1 year ago
@BigMeanNinja but if that 1Ghz can't pump out enough juice then I think we have to blame the OS.
Greeniemaxx 1 year ago
The frame rate is limited to 60.
Dani96Mac 1 year ago
NEXUS ONE=Double the resolution of 3gs
akbisw 1 year ago
@akbisw Good point, the nexus will have just over double the pixels to push if they are both running at native resolutions. That would make the Nexus more capable despite the lack of optimizations.
frostyfireman 1 year ago
Nexus sucks
MrNanda38 1 year ago
HAha nexus sucks, 3gs beats its so hard heheheh
tobbetobbelito1337 1 year ago
iPhone 4 has more power
sjoerdsuper 1 year ago
I would like to watch the same test with Android 2.2 and JIT activated.
juande 1 year ago 4
Resolution on N1 is higher than iP3GS, so what about this test? :)
0umapalata0 1 year ago
is it just me or did nobody else really notice a difference?
but the nexus does have a nicer looking screen.
but the average person wont notice anything different playing a game, unless he runs some kind of a benchmark like this
shaunpasoz 1 year ago
well... because the iphone 3gs's apps are run natively on the device, while the android(nexus one) using a virtual machine to run the code and a bunch of background service. However, the nexus one got a faster hardware(the 1GHz processor!) , so I think it will run much faster than iphone 3gs if the nexus one's apps run natively on the device.
altu892 1 year ago
@altu892:
As you see, Nexus 1GHz processor is not the bottleneck. I have heard that the GPU in iPhone is very fast. Also you can run native apps on Android too with a java wrapper (that doesn't actually affect the performance).
Also the resolution in Nexus One is about double the iPhones, so no wonder if the iPhones FPS is about double of Nexus Ones.
iPhones FPS was dropping so hard, and that maybe tells about (slow) CPU being the bottleneck. Too bad reviewer didn't test this though.
wallyllaw 1 year ago
@wallyllaw I think that usually the GPU dosent faster than a CPU, so anyway for computing, the nexus one is faster, but for the graphics, iphone faster... So I think google should separate the cpu and gpu in next generation of android.
altu892 1 year ago
@altu892 will the software
altu892 1 year ago
Waits patiently for an orgy to start...
johnathon124 1 year ago 2
this test is done obviously before 2.2 Froyo...i will like to see this test again with the JIT in Froyo helping the Nexus one
lordlad 1 year ago
One of the most important differences between these two devices is the fact that the Nexus has a much higher resolution screen,which means that the GPU has to fill 2.5 times as many pixels on the Nexus than iPhone.OK,so let’s change the viewport on the Nexus to the same size as the iPhone just so we can compare the two equally.With just two characters,switching the viewport size to 480×320 on the Nexus,give a frame-rate improvement from 30fps to 40fps but with 8 characters there is no difference
bozar12 1 year ago
@bozar12 lol, you are predicting frame rates based on that puerile calculation.... just LOL.
The Droid beats the Snapdragon in every real world 3D bench.
The Droid has the same(?) resolution & OS as a N1, but by most accounts has the same hardware as the 3GS.
To be honest, I dunno why you fanboys care. Your a monkey if you are going to by a smart-phone that costs XBOX360+PSP+DSI based on games performance.
The N1 is great for many reasons. Its slower at 3D than the 3GS. Relax, thats ok:)
CmdrTobs 1 year ago
The Nexus One and the iPhone 3Gs cannot be rightfully compared!! compare the One with the iPhone 4 and see the difference.
BKEthanTV 1 year ago 2
iPhone framerate massively drop than nexus... and also the screen resolution of nexus is 2x more than iPhone
darktatsujin 1 year ago 2
@darktatsujin At least those clowns posted there fanboy miss truths 4 months ago, you did it only a week ago...
CmdrTobs 1 year ago
The Nexus one may render with a lower frame rate, but I don't really visually see much difference in that respect. Given that the Nexus one has a higer display resolution that's okay. And after all: The scene clearly looks better on the Nexus, probably due to the better display.
Director84 1 year ago
I got 2 words for you. SCREEN RESOLUTION.
darkdvr 1 year ago 2
Hi, do you know the name of the benchmark application ? Thanks
Daniel30Kares 1 year ago
Wow, you suck. What a dumb test.
ZZeroFreeze 1 year ago
@ZZeroFreeze you do a better test then....
atari5001 1 year ago
How about you actually try adding another TEN characters, I bet you'll fine the Nexus faster than the iPhone, since each character only caused a 2.5 fps drop on the Nexus where as the iPhone dropped like 8 frames each time :D
paulito893 1 year ago
@paulito893 lol
CmdrTobs 1 year ago
You should test Galaxy S vs iPhone 4, sister GPUs ^^
Welocy 1 year ago
The 3GS is still a wonderfully fast phone. I am really not bias between either of them. I love them both, but the iPhone still performs better whatever excuse you can come up with.
nformby 1 year ago
people who are trying to find an excuse for the Nexus, shut the fuck up... Iphone 3gs was introduced in july 2009 whereas the nexus one is 2010...
So stop saying that the framerate of the iphone is dropping quickly or other excuses.. the funny thing is that the 3gs is still beating the nexus one even with a slower processor..
Djluv5 1 year ago
Switch the 3GS with an iPhone 4 and let's see what happens ^^;
kindiboy 1 year ago 4
the snapdragon gpu sucks theres no bones about it.
run this on a droid x or a galaxy S hell id imagine even the original droid would perform better.
also I can see the incredible difference the AMOLED is making in picture quality.
Robodude288 1 year ago
You "wanted the two phones to be on equal footing" and yet you are running code that supports optimization on the iPhone and not on the Nexus?
This smells of a skewed test , not to mention that the shading of the walls on the Nexus looks much better.
DataCutter 1 year ago 36
@DataCutter The shading might be due to the N1's better screen, which has richer colors. And you make a good point about code optimization, NeoCore runs beautifully on my Nexus One, especially after the 2.2 upgrade
GuymanX09 1 year ago
@DataCutter true dat.
LeviMonte 1 year ago
@DataCutter Actually the shading on the walls look cartoony and over-saturated. There's a degree of subtly in the way color bleeds onto surfaces in real-life, not to mention Apple's display architecture is generally more developed particularly in the area of color accuracy.
spacetimesparx 1 year ago
@DataCutter Actually, in a performance test, equal footing would be one where each phone can show their potential without anything hampering them. If optimization gives the iPhone an advantage in real-life scenarios, then I think it would be quite unfair to deny it the opportunity. Wouldn't give a true picture of it's potential. Of course, owning neither, I don't know if perhaps some different optimization technique is denied to the android, that would give it the advantage.
Validole 1 year ago
@DataCutter The iPhone has a more powerful GPU, get over it...
ATLMember 1 year ago
@DataCutter God damn it the SGX 535 is better than an Adreno 200 and that is a fact. Make all the excuses you want. However newer Android devices can easily beat the iPhone since the Adreno 205 and SGX 540 are quite a bit more powerful.
TheRishBOB 11 months ago
Galaxy S and Droid X are probably going to be the best two Android devices for gaming. The original Droid is still great though.
The snapdragons aren't that great for gaming. It sucks... but some games are optimized... Raging Thunder II, Exzeus Arcade... both have heavy graphics and play beautifully.
The fill rate on the Adreno GPU on the Snapdragons is low...
However, it could be optimized by using smaller textures and abusing the fact that it can do 22million triangles/second.
patelkedar 1 year ago
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f you calculate the resolution of each the devices, you will know that the Nexus is more than 3x more powerful than the Iphone 3GS. (When 8 characters are on)
NEXUS: resolution 480x800= 384000 pixels at 21fps = 18285 pixels / 1fps
3GS: resolution 320x480= 153600 pixels at 30 fps = 5120 pixels / 1fps
the more pixels / 1 fps the better. Correct me if I am wrong.
Daniel30Kares 1 year ago
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Daniel30Kares 1 year ago
no matter what the stats and excuses are, can we all just agree that the iPhone owns the Nexus 1?
srt4eric 1 year ago
@srt4eric
everyone has just said that the nexus one has to power double the resolution, and that the framrate drop si minor next to the iphone which dropped 50%.
so we can all agree that you are retarded :)
quertiy 1 year ago
@quertiy If you think frame rate follows such a childish relationship to frame rate......lolololol
CmdrTobs 1 year ago
The Galaxy S GPU should beat both of these phones..
Welocy 1 year ago
This should be updated now- iPhone 4 vs. Nexus One w/ Froyo 2.2 and an NDK-enabled Nexus version.
mastermind7771 1 year ago
@mastermind7771 I dunno what would be the significance in doing that? If you can't predict the result the Iphone would win very comfortably.
You really are going to line up aa 45mn SoC with a strong GPU against a 65mn SoC with a slow GPU.
The N1 has slower performance than the 3GS and Iphone 4. It beyond doubt. Don't become one of the "resolution" clowns.
CmdrTobs 1 year ago
Yeah I have an Evo.
The Adreno GPU in Snapdragons ... not that great.
Atleast not as good as the ones in the Droid, Iphone, Palm Pre.
Still with Froyo, things should be a little better.
patelkedar 1 year ago
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mrsquestionmarks 1 year ago
You Fucking retards, he said that both the benchmarks are running at the same resolution! Also Nexus one doesn't have good gpu because its integrated to the snapdragon, Iphone has PowerVR and it has better 3D performance. Snapdragon would be faster with a decent GPU.
Valztu 1 year ago
@Valztu that n1 was not on froyo. 4/5x better performance with froyo.
TheLizard17 1 year ago
he probably has other things running without knowing it on nexus he needs advanced task killer
keatontyo 1 year ago
Nexus might have a higher resolutions screen, but anyone who thinks this demo is running at 2x the resolution on the Nexus is smoking crack. There's an identical number of polygons he said 11,000, that's for both.
jr92503 1 year ago
@jr92503 Number of polygons has nothing to do with resolution. You can run a PC game at 2 different resolutions with the same number of polygons, but the higher resolution will force more pixels to be updated on the screen every frame. That's more work for the video card (and why video card benchmarks always show a decrease in performance as you increase the resolution).
I can't say whether the Android is maintaining its native resolution here, but if it is, the resolution argument is valid.
anders1245 1 year ago
Ok, so let's redo this test with Froyo (Android 2.2) ;)
iPhone drops from 60 to 30 (-30), Nexus One from 35 to 22 (-13)... Also, Nexus One has twice the resolution.
That pretty mutch resumes everything =)
iPlaya93 1 year ago 3
@iPlaya93 it is not that he is running more than double the resolution on the N1. it's exactly like PC games try to run a PC game on a resolution then double it and compare the frames. if this guy is serious about this he would get an iphone 4 and this nexus one to prove us wrong (without even updating it to froyo)
kindiboy 1 year ago
@iPlaya93 Yes lets try with iOS 4, iPhone 4 (with more than Nexus resolution) and see, still iPhone will beat Nexus one or even Galaxy S.
Reason is the way Android run's its apps are different from the way iOS does it, with the concept of linked libraries Android Apps will always end up being smaller in size but at the same time they wouldn't preform as good, secondly compiler for iOS 4 uses pure native code generation, with limits already set in OS.
Android runs each app in a separate VM.
Greeniemaxx 1 year ago
@Greeniemaxx do you even know what you are saying or you saw all this somewhare else? nexus has double the resolution of 3gs and that raises the cpu usage. try it on iphone 4 and you will see who is the winner.
euklidis1984 1 year ago
@Greeniemaxx it can beat nexus 1, but not nexus s. Iphone 4 has apple a4 underclocked to 800mhz and PowerVR SGX 530. Nexus S has lower res, 1GHz sumsung cpu and newer PowerVR SGX 540. Don't think that just because its pure google and android, nothing beat the iphone BECAUSE in real life, higher spec proofs it, gingerbread 2.3 also enhances more gpu juice
chrischoy9 11 months ago
@chrischoy9 I have nothing against Android, but as fo now Android OpenGL stacks and GPU drivers are a mess. It's not Google's fault it's OEMs like Samsung and HTC that cheap out on driver software and limit the potential of their devices. Also as I was saying earlier, the SGX 543 MP2 when using two cores at 200 MHz each also edges out the Tegra 2 in fill rate, but has over double the shader/vertex performance due to having 16 shaders/ALUs over the 8 of the Tegar 2.
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proprietycontrition 1 year ago
I'm disappointed that the Nexus one still doesn't have any half decent games as the iphone
stfudonnie 1 year ago
@stfudonnie
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tatoforever 1 year ago
froyo will decimate this :D
Buddlebot 1 year ago
Use froyo. 5x faster benchmarks.
TheLizard17 1 year ago
@TheLizard17 Also the Nexus One has 2x the resolution of the iPhone.
TheLizard17 1 year ago 2
What is THIS BENCHMARK CALLED! I WOULD LIKE TO TEST IT WITH FROYO.
DarthCow23 1 year ago
retry this test using froyo
cdambati 1 year ago
if the nexus resolution is double that of the iphone (and it seems to be) then running the same screen at different resolutions is NOT a fair test. any numpty could tell you that. try again plz :)
greyseal88 1 year ago
Now run the nexus version at 480x320. Yea, that's what I thought.
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MrsTechy22 1 year ago
Android is gonna take over, that is why apple sued.
xtheishx 1 year ago
I disagree with you all.
First of all, you do realise that apps for android are written in java? And do you realise that only the upcoming android 2.2 will have JIT compiler, which will boost system's app-performance 450%? (initially they said 3 times, but thanx to maths magic they boosted it even more :-) )
Next, it doesn't really depend on the resolution either, the graphics chip should handle it good on both resolutions.
But, now show me the same test with JIT or without OS dude!nexus wins
MenkoDany 1 year ago
Android one have better colors.
btnerd 1 year ago
iPhone is better
anle1324 1 year ago
apple fucking sucks, microsoft & google will pwn their ass
dguy107 1 year ago
@dguy107 you must be kiddin...yeah maybe android but windows mobile is the biggest crap after symbian......apple is not releasing their phones almost every two months...when you buy htc,you could be better htc next month.....thats why i didnt buy evo 4g because i heard that they are gonna release new phone with 1.5 ghz
LdotD23 1 year ago
whats the app called
tamcam555 1 year ago
The resolution is bigger on the nexus and the frame rate drop is only 33% or so when you add the modles. Whereas on the iphone the drop in frame rate is 50%. The Nexus has a much better GPU and CPU. You would have to drop the resolution down on the nexus in order to compare apples to apples. You can put lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig. Nexus wins.
xstatic79 1 year ago 3
What GPU is in the nexus one?
Definitely looks like fillrate to me, its rendering what something like 2x the pixels.
I'd like to see a test with high geometry count to see how many polygons each can push.
GearGOD 1 year ago
nexus is pathetic
basilissk 1 year ago
I think the Nexus one looks better rather or not the Frame is less. :l
razor191919 1 year ago
Huh... AMOLED display looks so awsome (Nexus ONE)
vanjastanic 1 year ago
The colors are AWSOME on Nexus 1 - iPhone sucks so hard
Vi4shino 1 year ago 9
I'll stick with my HD OLED screen and faster CPU thanks. Who the fuck needs a gaming GPU on a phone?
naraithsil 1 year ago
which 3D game engine are you using?
jrfps 1 year ago
the problem with the droid and nexus one are that the screen resolutions are high so even if they have the same hardware (droid, for the most part have similar hardware) games will not run as fluidly as in an iphone
mavswi 1 year ago 2
Wow, The Iphone framerate really drops... a 50% loss.
agentmohsen 1 year ago 2
The user said on his earlier posts that iphone 3GS and the nexus one are both using the same resolution in this benchmark. This proofs that Motorola Droid, nokia n900 and the Palm Pre all have better 3D performance than nexus one because they all have PowerVR and the same excact processor, I rest my case
Valztu 1 year ago
mapping for the iphone sucks .. while mapp rendering for n1 is obviously good and vibrant......
BannyBunch 1 year ago 2
DAhhhh enough posting, its filled with fanboys in here.
CmdrTobs 1 year ago
you can tell by the rate at which the frame rate drops that while the iphone can run more frames per second, the nexus has a more powerful processor since the iphone's framerate was cut in half while the nexus lost only one third after more characters were added...still i was pretty dissapointed with the google phone =[, i wanted to see the iphone get beat...
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PhenomenoBTown59 1 year ago
The android one has way more resolution than the iPhone, it´s unfair to say that it´s slower.....
isthisnickvalid 1 year ago
@isthisnickvalid I think it is. I am yet to see anyone run anything better than Quake on a HTC phone. Where as all the Cortex phones Ip 3Gs/N900/Driod all have people whizzing around in quake 3 on them.
The 600Mhz-1Ghz snapdragon SoC is just not for 3D games. Thats all. Given that most 2.1 devices are going to be powered by them for some time to come the Android platform will be out of contention for high powered games for a while.
CmdrTobs 1 year ago
@isthisnickvalid well...look at the framerates. maybe to play games, the android one is going to have to lower the resolution, causing more alaising. this is what happens when a company does not think a head.
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GEEKBOI03 1 year ago
the nexus 1 is having to power double the resolution the iphone is having to which explains the frame rate difference. You can see the nexus is more powerful as the frame drop is very minor whereas the iphones frame drop is massive
jjbdoggg 1 year ago 100
@jjbdoggg whoa my bad dude, i said the same thing u said in my comment, i ddnt even see this lol...true that...
bananapooptime 1 year ago
@jjbdoggg Liar, only if your at the fill rate limit the Iphones GFX chip has a fill rate 5x that of the Nexus. So even if you turned up the resolution the Iphone would still win.
This is a simple case of the 1GHz snapdragon with Adreno 200 GPU(cheaper+worse) vs 600Mhz Cortex with Pvr(Better)
Its no contest. If you want 3D gaming on the Android, 2 choices: Motorola Driod that has a A8-Cortex+powerVr (just like the Iphone 3gs) or wait for the Samsung Galaxy S that has the 'hummingbird' chipset
CmdrTobs 1 year ago
@jjbdoggg Read the correspondent blogpost: Nexus One is slower even when they reduce the resolution. "Nexus one is more powerful because the frame drop is lower"? What kind of logic is that? Both min and max fps are way lower than on the iPhone.
Palalune 1 year ago
@jjbdoggg Wut? The GPU in the iPhone 3GS is much better than what is equipped with the Snapdragon. It isn't a secret the Snapdragon has a weak GPU. Go look at the technical specs of both GPU's and you'll see.
vaxick 1 year ago