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  • Excellent movie, 18:59 we all need to apply this to ourselves instead of just to other people.

  • it takes some real idiots to fall for crap like this

  • the book was soooo much better

    -Meow

  • Trash.

  • lol the way she fell, had me laughing my ass off, like she just hit the ground and stayed there

  • lmao

    

  • i feel bad for Robert

  • Makes me wonder wheere those kids from the real class that this was based on are now. They would be in their late 50's-early 60's wouldn't they? I wonder what they think of our current government? might be a good time for a follow up.

  • It was a verry good answer for her question

    And i feed sorry for that guy who was the teachers boddyguard

  • Ok that is so cool

  • People aren't stupid just like that, groups with leaders with wrong intentions make them stupid.

  • United States has brainwashed everyone within the country to believe a capitalistic-democratic system is good and socialism is bad...Lol The leaders and defenders of democracy soon forget they killed more Afrikaans 3 times over than the Jew during the Trans Atlantic slave trade! And this is not counting the American Indian holocausts and the Chinese Americans who built the rail systems.

  • @Amocee Socialism is a joke.

  • ok this is scary

  • There is nothing wrong with having National or racial pride...this is VERY natural.

  • @Amocee this is dictarship 101 yes I know its misspelled

  • This is Progressivism 101. Anti-individualism, anti-economic freedom, and a high centralized power.

  • i hate that white sweater

  • Im watching this in my geogrraphy class

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  • very ingenious way to answer her question

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  • My history teacher told me about this film yestedray ^^

  • Old school movie

  • Yo moma sucks my dick.

  • ACTING!!!!!!

  • how'd that real experience work out?

  • Nice bell-bottoms, Robert.

  • Wow

  • Everyone posting here is antiwave. I am a Wave member, and believe that discipline, community, and action can create positive change. So if anyone wants to post a POSITIVE comment, go right on ahead. I'm creating a bright future for myself. A Wave future.

  • @Primrose7475Lives The Wave had no theology. You can only try to live by those ideas, but The Wave itself was only a High School experiment that you seem to have failed to comprehend.

  • book is so much better

  • It is happening now with O's cult following, and his editing of history.

  • The next day Robert walked halls with a sawed off shotgun screaming "strength through action"

  • The message is incredible but the acting is terrible

  • To all those doubters:

    Yes, it was a real thing made up by a teacher. only went four or five days, and already the results were interesting: better grades and enthusiasm yes, actual volunteering for jobs yes, but also exclusivity and rulebreaking and related fanatic following, of a sort. See the Stanford prison experiment for a parallel. This case was a psychology test, and just goes to show that fascist-style groups are a significant possibility in any age.

  • im in 8th grade & i dont feel like reading it so i just watched it instead!

  • This is very good but the german one is better :) we saw part of it in class today and I just had to watch the rest. The fact that this actually happened scares me.

  • That cheesy ominous music still does the job today

  • 5:30 she was going to be raped

  • Unfortunately all of this is going on in the U.S. right now you have your TSA you have have police who will not follow law but in fact are hired by private institutions.The actual story was wild it was a 5 day experiment and it changed the lives of all those who were part of it including the Teacher Ron Jones.

  • My class is reading the book.

  • this really does prove how fast something so small can gain such momentium. Their wave turns into a full out tsnami.

  • This is so surreal....

  • I watched this as a freshman in high school, and thought it was utterly absurd. Part of what made Nazism so galvanizing was the racial and populist ideology underlying it. The experiment in this film is just a made up club with no ideology, purpose, or point. High school students have a hierarchy of their own, and wouldn't consider a club where Robert was the most enthusiastic member to be something cool. If my history teacher tried to pull a stunt like this, we'd have laughed at him.

  • @SwineForkbeard Then unlike them who have no idea what was going on, you on the other hand know what it happening. Keep your thought process for it is one that nows how Fascism can spread so fast, in any form of the way. Despite that there was no need persecute certain groups. Nazism is what it is because people follow blindly to fascism, hurting others and what makes it so feared. The reason your teachers doesn't do this experiment is because you get it, and your not a bunch of brainless idiots

  • how old are these peeps meant to be? 16yrs old? 21 yr old?

  • well, this explains how when, im watching HOUSE, and he says people are idiots, everyone around me smiles and says "yea people are idiots".

    people are stupid. and if you are reading this and agreeing with me.

    i mean you dip shit.

  • There's a good way to explain nationalism!

  • I am doing an assessment on this, but i dont understand how this relates to discrimination?

  • This was reeeeally boring .-. i only watched it for two reasons....

    1. it was the original version

    2. I read the book, which had a lot more details, and i read it cause im having a test on it, there for my school forced me to read it. I like the book better

  • obama youth corps, lol

  • that's a huge hit at 7:26

  • Danka mine furer

  • super old school! I remember watching this in middle school and it made a huge impact on me. thanks for posting!

  • I was there. I was a senior that year. "Togotfury" you have no idea what you are talking about. Instead of speculating...do some homework

  • @Toophless1 If you were really there, Toophless, can you shed some light on the real events of "The Wave" experiment, and how widespread it actually got verus what we see here in the semi-dramatic version? Can you give any proof whatsoever that you really were a senior that year at all?

  • i wonder how many people killed themselves out of shame. i know many of the students suffered long term trauma from it. nice going teach

  • i saw this in religie class, well the beginning and ending at least xP

  • I just finished readin the book, freaky what discipline can do...

  • We didn't get to the second part in class in world history so i watched it now.

  • saw this in class today, it blew my mind

  • @lithuanian27 I SAW IT IN AP PSYCHOLOGY

  • @WPUSMA1 I saw it in my class about the holocaust and world war 2

  • i'm from norway, and we saw this film in a high school class. it was mandatory. this was back in 1993, im sure they still show it to kids. haha.

  • @kyrre they do actually, we saw it in class today

  • @kyrre Yes they do. And it's good they do.

  • @kyrre yeah we watched the first part of it and im watching the second at home its very interesting

  • @kyrre AWWW BUT STILL NOBODY CARES NOW FUCK THIS FUCKINS SHIT!!!

  • @kyrre  Have a test on it tomorrow, say me good luck !

  • @kyrre They do, I saw it today in my grade 10 History class.

  • @kyrre I had to watch this film last year in English. Many kids in my class thought it was stupid. They would most likely fall into a cult if ever given the chance.

  • only americans can produce such pathetic crap....and believe it or not, this film was shown in schools all over the countries after it came out...unbelievable

  • does anyone know if the third wave experiment was influenced by the stanford prison experiment or vice versa because they were both created in palo alton in the late sixties.

  • It's crazy how easily people are pursuaded.

  • @skychickyjeni it is only a film you know

  • thanks for uploading this great educational movie

  • this sucks but i have to watch it because of my fuckin' class is having about WW2 and shit

  • This seriously sucks

  • communist teacher?

  • @RyansAnimeAndManga Communist? No, he was teaching the students of Facism and how effective it can be.

  • Just goes to show, that kid Robert deserved being an outcast, he would've made a great SS.

  • @GodIsBass

    I see him in a different way. He s a victim of society in school. No friends, no tolerance, no respect. He is not getting the emotions of other he needs to be happy, like love or friendship. He has no purpose to live. With the Wave, he found a group he may belong to. He feels accepted and he experience the respect of the others. He failed as individual and succeded as victor. Fascist groups are full of people, who fail in life and find a purpose again in the group. greetings

  • @GodIsBass Yeah I disagree. It is, in fact, his mistreatment by others that made him susceptible to the solace the Wave claimed to offer. He bought it wholesale. A whole lot of groups would have a harder time finding members, and there would probably be less massive school shootings and the like, if people just stopped being assholes to people they think are strange or uncool or don't like.

  • This may have gone way too far, but Mr. Ross was extremely smart to shock the students not to be a fascist

  • Ironic that even Wikipedia admits the experiment was never properly written up, and the best reference is a book which is described as a novel based on the experiment.

    Learning psychological principles from a fiction author based on undocumented research they claim to have been incredibly effective? I wonder where I've heard that before ;)

  • @Levon095 i agree

  • the book is MUCH better.

  • i really prefer the german one..

  • @Yamata05 Of course it is, it's made 18 years later, it better be.

  • Wow, the book had so much more detail than this asswipe. So sad.

  • @adamtheamazing64 BAD I KNOW

  • @adamtheamazing64 im guessing it was made for schools to educate the students about it. they didn't want to make the movie too long so that the students wouldn't miss as much classtime. its just a guess though.

  • @ConverseFan7000 You´r absolutley right with your guessing.

  • @adamtheamazing64 The movie was made to show it in classrooms, so just 45 minutes. How could they have put more details in 45 minutes long movie?

  • After all, what is society itself but this principle, writ large, used in defense of the social contract?

    That's the danger here. If you could just shut this stuff off and ignore it, that'd be fine, but you have to judge it case by case and sometimes you even need to be listening. Just, as the teacher dude said, never listen to the exclusion of your own necessary individual freedoms.

  • Nor should be be entirely quick to dismiss every group that uses similar tactics as a dangerous cult, because that's narrow-minded thinking too. Example: Religion, in its proper sphere. Also the military. Both have their place and need to use such tactics to motivate people to become better people, or defend their country.

    It kinda comes down to what the objective is.

  • @imgrandojji

    Oh yes, reason is so dogmatic. SMH.

  • (c'd) we don't like having to make some of the decisions and do some of the things we deal with daily as adults. If some charlatan can show us those unpleasant things in a vacuum and tell us they can get rid of them for us, that's a powerful attractive force. Powerful and deadly. Hitler didn't invent that. Nor did the Fascist movement. It's been around since the dawn of man.

  • @imgrandojji, yes, that's another aspect of it.

    As one Soviet song said, "We will sing and laugh as children amid stubborn struggle and work."

    It's not adult struggle and work that's avoided, but adult taking of responsibility.

    B.R. Myers in "The Cleanest Race: How North Koreans See Themselves and Why It Matters" describes how North Lorean government propaganda describes its people as a pure, childlike race, virtually incapable of sin.

    (cont.)

  • Yet another aspect is at least opposition, if not hatred towards the outside world and presumption of themselves as somehow awakened, while the rest of the people are asleep. "You must wake up" is a very common refrain.

    (cont.)

  • Under "Cults: The Wave - Part 1", Amputate wrote how his sociology teacher got about 80% of our class to believe they were going to protest against our school about something. Paradoxically, protest and rebellion involve slavish "follow the leader" behavior. The ones who think themselves as rebels are as a rule the biggest slaves of all.

    I think this is why our commercial culture is packed to the brim with propaganda of rebellion.

    (cont.)

  • And also why the academia, overwhelmingly, almost totally leftist, completely in control of campuses, still promotes an impression of itself as somehow being rebels against "the system." One can go to any campus today and easily find classes with the same cult-like propaganda of leftist doctrines.

  • I've seen this movie before, and I also read "No substitute for madness," by Ron Jones, the teacher who came up with the Wave experiment.

    The first chapter of the book is about The Wave. But what really shocked me is that in one of the later chapters, Ron Jones himself joins a wave. A leftist wave.

    This is the real power of The Wave: its author joined it at the end. The Wave turned out to be stronger than him.

    So what is the real lesson here?

  • @Kurtlane the lesson here is 4 dem 2 relaize how ppl use 2 follow da crowd just like da nazi use 2 do dey followed da crowd && did wat eva 1 else was doing bcuz dey was scared of wat will happen to dem if dey didnt do wat every 1 else was doing

  • @Labouricagirl, true, but that's only part of the lesson, isn't it.

    What looks like a homogenous crowd from the outside had its internal dynamics. It included fervent believers, tag-alongs, doubters, and even outright dissidents.

    The other part is following an ideology.

    And following young people just because they are young.

    And following evil when one sees it winning.

    (cont.)

  • And opposing for the sake of opposing.

    And there is something particularly in young peole that makes them behave that way. Isn't there?

    When Ron Jones himself joined the leftist wave, he thought he was joining "the future." This is what he wrote, if I rememeber correctly.

  • @Kurtlane Not just young people. Most of the leadership of the Nazi party were World War 1 veterans. It's part of the dual nature of humanity to on the one hand yearn for freedom, and on the other to yearn for... I don't want to say "safety" or "security" because that's not the real answer. More like for someone else to take the pressure of daily life off our shoulders and let us be kids again in some way.

  • @Kurtlane I am a Wave member myself, and I believe that The Wave was a brilliant movement that was flawed by human nature.

  • @Primrose7475Lives, sorry, but brilliant movements that are flawed by human nature are not brilliant movements.

    I lived in the Soviet Union. I know the consequences of such movements all too well.

    Better give me a somewhat less brilliant movement that takes human nature into account and works with it.

  • says it was in 1967

    those kids should have been dropping avid and tie dyeing shit not being jew hateing fuucks

  • says it was in 1967

    those kids should been dropping avid and tie dyeing shit not being jew hateing fuucks

  • Thank god I didnt get that wave tatoo

  • Holy shit! He actually made an entire school to follow him. Good thing it was only an experiment, imagine what could've happened if he was actually serious about this.

  • @dingsebumsify so true omg!

  • i think it's a good movie but there is too much missing

  • det her er da fucking nedern.

    André 8.a

  • @DresenHD Vent nogle år, uddan dig vil og se den igen. Så tror jeg virkelig at du forstår, hvad der sker her. Hvis du ikke gør til den tid. så håber jeg at du vil få nogen til at forklare det for dig.

  • @MarcoByskov forstår den.. tror bare at man var lidt sej fordi at man skrev sådan..

    du ved..

    er klogere end som sådan.

  • @DresenHD okay :D

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  • 9:16 "You can't even carry on a coversation without worrying about who's listening to you."

    Yes, this film was made 30 years ago. Sounds like today.

  • didn't she say, "Everyone wear BLUE shirts."... ?

  • 17:33

    Laughing very hard xD

  • @Amocee  You made a great comment and some brainwashed individual marked it as spam.

  • I knew from the beginning that it would be Hitler.

  • i felt like i was watching an horror movie

  • "ICH KEMPFE!!!"

  • "There's your leader!" 

  • Mr Ross, we can do it.

    creepy!

  • I never got what the group "The Wave" was about. Strength through discipline... for what purpose? what were they for and what were they against?

  • @carmencapel69 Whats really great...is I don't think even they knew, they just wanted to be a group united without outside influences, a PERFECT Gang-Mentallity experiment

  • @carmencapel69 It didn't matter. Think Hope and Change.

  • @carmencapel69 I kind of thought their aim was to get students to act like they were acting in class (perfect posture, answering questions all promptly, etc) without realize they were also beginning to lose free thought. Omegauser's answer seems right too, they weren't really DOING anything except recruiting more people to do the same, ironically enough

  • yes, the german version is really much better

  • the german verion is sooo much better ... in the german movie is more dramatic and its newer

  • the german verion is sooo much better ...

  • this movie is so silly...lol

  • u saw this movie today in school! i dont really get it though..

  • read the book im in 8th grade and my teacher didnt show it in class cuz she was scared wed be laughing the whole time XD

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  • Robert Billings The Class Loser!

  • Moving*

  • I feel that this movie was very movie fuck all the haters what if that was u .. I watched this movie and read the book in my grade 12 English class this year :)

  • @perrykeribear we read it in 8th grade failure also this movie sucked ass

  • "mister ross may i follow you home?"

    uhhh isnt this a serious matter?

  • 96666...

    

  • Red ribbon week at our high school always used to remind me of the swastika armband the natzis would wear.

  • It's a rather short film, but one that I think all schools across the world should show to prevent anything like that from happening again. The fact is that we are not imune to it as much as we would like to think we are.

  • Anyone have a classroom where everyone must do the work in your small team all year, or there are consequences (automatic failure of a certain project when late). Trust me, it makes EVERYONE work, and that's how we succeed.

  • Dieser Film ist wirklich besser als der deutsche. Aber ich muss sagen, Hitler war wirklich ein guter Redner.

    This movie really is better than the german one. But Hitler really could hold great speeches..

  • @Dratini999 Ganz klar! Hitler was amazing at speaches, and knew how to get people fired up (no pun intended).. And I'll have to agree that this version is better than Das Experiment, which has a lot of flaws in it btw! A teacher at our school actually tried something a bit like this, in a much smaller, and he also experienced how the students would follow the leader.

    So this a lesson to us all, of how the Germans during WWII could "just" follow along - Only dead fish follow the stream

  • that girl and her boyfriend are both terrible actors. especially laury or whatever her name is

  • @FichDak Stage actors!

  • This is a great teaching for EVERYONE. Nationalisms in 2010 are rising. Nazis groups are reapearing in germany.... the fear of foreigners also Think about those facts...

    for god sake we are all the same, whoever we are, whatever we believe, and from wherever we come from

    Travels should be compulsory, let's meet our neighbors from the whole world!

  • @norhanoi Think about why they are rising.our elected politician are letting anyone trough the gates as long as they carry a bomb or swear they don't wanna fit in.

    The point is.there are more people hating us now than it was than.and we have become so passiv that if we need to protest against something we use facebook

  • I find it interesting that those parents are against this type of thing... but what about being patriotic and loving this nation to the max? Is it that much different? People are also like this toward education... didn't matter, those bitches at ma old High School couldn't change me.

  • lol 7:44 they just keep on playing tennis

  • thnkss dude :) finished ma summer reading xD lmao

  • ride that wave.. wave.. wave... wave... wave... wave...wave... ride that wave!

  • Did anyone else start laughing around 20:00 ?

  • @GoudaBeluga - He's gonna eat your soul...

  • I saw this in middle school (or the danish version of middle school) and I haven't seen it since... But the plot has stuck with me and to this day (I'm now 22) I still remember the lesson, they were all taught... Great movie, (even though it's kind of old) with a great messages... Thanks for posting... :)

  • i feel sorry for robert. i prefer the german version though :)

  • @shiteater135 How? With no American patriotism, the Nazis would have swept over all of Europe, and then the world.