John Piper - Abortion: Children Sacrificed to Demons

[Mitzi73]

How can the unborn be sacrifced to Satan if the child is innocent. The unborn would be with God. The parent is the one who is sacrificing himself to Satan.

[alrune8]

Abortion is wrong but killing innocent foreign children is just fucking fine. As if the so-called sanctity of life was just applicable to unborn American fetuses. So much bullshit! And even better, I've NEVER SEEN A SINGLE ANTI-CHOICE PERSON (because let's call them their real name) adopting any child or supporting contraception! You can't force women into unwanted pregnancy on one hand and NOT adopt any child yourself and NOT promote contraception on the other hand. Hypocrites!

[samiam159007]

@alrune8 To be fair, women who have sex should with their own responsibility consider the costs of having sex. When you have sex, it results in a baby. That's the purpose of sex. That's nature, and you can't refute that! Every living being on this planet is designed that way by God. If you don't believe in God, you still have to accept that every creature is designed that way. So in a sense, the woman herself has forced her way into pregnancy by not counting the costs.

[samiam159007]

@alrune8 Also, I am allowed to have an opinion on Abortion without adopting children. I would love to adopt and so would many other anti-choice people, but that doesn't mean we have the capability to do so. Does that automatically force us into not having an opinion or freedom of speech? Does that make us hypocrites just because we cannot adopt children? That's illogical. Contraception is a means to not deal with the consequences of a natural act (sex).

[samiam159007]

@alrune8 And one last thing. You are not God, you do not know everything, so you do not know if there are any anti-choice people have adopted kids or promoted contraception. Just because you haven't met anyone doesn't mean that none exist. Your argument is a fallacy.

[alrune8]

@samiam159007 Anti-choicers can have all the opinions they want, I just ask for consistency. If you're against abortion (which I can understand), promoting contraception and adoption should always come with the territory, but it never does. Also, abortion should be an option left at hand for some extreme cases (rape, dangerous pregnancies etc) and women should have the choice to leave a child born from rape to adoption and not be forced into keeping it. cont.

[alrune8]

@samiam159007 cont. Forcing women into motherhood when they're clearly unfit for it is a guaranteed ticket to child abuse. That's criminal. And pleas be decent. Rape and sex aren't the sole responsibility of women. May I remind you that it takes two people to have sex? Why aren't men who forced themselves on women forced into paying child support to a child born from such an unfortunate conception? Anti-choicers don't care about these things it seems. cont.

[alrune8]

@alrune8 cont. Finally, contraception is still a good and moral way to avoid all this drama. Sure it may have its deviations, but it's still better than having unwanted children all over who will end up alone and sad. So I'm sorry, it's no fallacy. Anti-choicers always talk about abstinence, but never speak of contraception and adoption when there are so many barren women out there. cont.

[alrune8]

@samiam159007 You don't have to adopt kids when you're anti-choice but AT LEAST be decent and see to the child's best interest which is not to have an unloving/immature mother and an absent/criminal father and grow into a sad and resentful adult. It's all I'm saying. 4 comment in total, please read them all before firing insults at me.

[PALOMITA694]

SEPARATION OF STATE AND RELIGION IS JUSTICE FOR ALL!

[Forlifeandeternity]

I believe this is true. Abortion is a demonic ritual.

[nofalal]

abortion is bad

[cindeemorgan]

King James Bible:

"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour..." God bless you, John Piper, for your voice for the unborn that refuses to be silenced.

[oggun162]

There is no mistake about abortion. It is wrong. It is murder. It is beyond argument and beyond understanding. I would rather lose the whole world and gain my soul. Call me what you will, but call me His.

[Heath328]

Au Shawster, I noticed that you couldn't spar even a moment to explain why you think killing unborn babies is a good thing. You just went into a tirade about politics and the GOP.

Can you explain in your own words why the freedom to kill the human life in a womb is a desirable thing and why Democrats fight tooth and nail for it? It's not because of all the money that abortion providers put into Democratic coffers, is it?

[AuShawster]

What I feel makes the Pro-Live movement so dangerous is not your personal views on abortion as much as how your passion is easily manipulated by politicians. If it was not the voting strength of the Christian Conservative Pro-Live movement in the US, Romney would likely have beat out Huckabee and they would easily beat out McCain and Romney would have given Obama a good run. Just a thought for you Republicans. Weighing all the options is something extremists fail to do.

[talitha00cumi]

AuShawster: Isn't it true that those who are pro-infanticide are the ones who mindlessly follow politicians? No one in their right mind can approve of abortion, ergo, those who do are NOT in their right minds, having been manipulated by politicians and certain interest groups like Planned Parenthood who back eugenics and make billions from killing babies.