Scalia: Torture is not cruel and unusual

[writersblock26]

Thank you for posting this, view865.

[sssssjjjj1]

@popejoy hey moron, go back to the page on scalia your hero, I have a lesson for you. Now you and others all say it with me together. You stupid pucker. haha.

[sssssjjjj1]

iT'S CALLED JUSTIFYING YOUR EVIL DEED. That's what pos do. The guy beats his wife. Ya. But she burned my toast and I really wanted some unburned toast. Just look at that demeanor in his devilish face. So damn pompous and arrogant. He is not correct. I am. Read all my entries then his and others and tell me I'm not.

[sssssjjjj1]

Punishing has many definitions. This judge is a moron. He's only using the definition to suit himself to excuse himself for not being a defender of freedom but a defender of the cfr, bush and the mf-ers destroying the country and doing evil. He needs to be PUNISHED!

[sssssjjjj1]

No no no, you only read one context of the word. Quit cherry picking for your bastard judge. REad on my moronic friend. You only read the first definition of the word punishment. For example. That was a punishing punch by the boxer in the red trunks. There was no judicial proceeding you stupid azz.

[sssssjjjj1]

Punishment= a penalty posed for wrongdoing. This is one stupid bastard. He belongs behind bars. He is out there ruining this country. He is a demon bastard.

[hlimkb]

to those who dont know what torture means please watch the movie Pan Labyrith.

u just need a car mechanic tool box.

[GustafSjoblom]

The title of this video is grossly missleading!

Leaving out the word "punishment" when that is the thing Scalia says torture, in the cases discussed, isn't.

If someone got sentenced to waterboarding you can be 100% certain that Scalia would say that it was unconstitutional in the highest degree because of it being cruel and unusual punishment.

[milleralive]

Scalia for President.

[Kloudes]

It may not be punishment, but it IS cruel and unusual. How terrible !

[sanderson1611]

Scalia is a freak.

Of course torture is cruel and unusual punishment! The subject is being PUNISHED for not talking! If they cooperate and give the information, the torture stops.

The torture is a punishment that is used when they stop cooperating.

[Popejoy]

@sanderson1611 OK, Sanderson and everyone else, say it with me together: Punishment is the end result of the judicial process, typically given by a judge. Torture is not punishment, and is not discussed in the Eighth Amendment. Scalia's view is that torture is bad, but it is not a constitutional issue. If you don't want torture, pass a law against it!

[IrishMexRebe]

Lol, nowhere did Scalia say that torture was not "cruel and unusual". He merely said it isn't punishment, which according to the UN, it isn't.

[ijoan]

People who think the "Constitution" is some inviolable, sacrosanct "word of God" are crusted over with their own ridgid thinking. His decision reflect an effort to perpetrate the "Conservative" LIFESTYLE. No, Scalia cannot be fired, but with luck he will die young.

[IrishMexRebe]

If you listened to the whole interview, you would have heard how he disagree with pro-lifers on their interp of the 14th Amendment. Seriously most of Scalia's critics are so misinformed.

[moveonidiotdotorg]

We have become such pussies...no wonder our country is sinking with these faggot liberals. This is a judge we can't afford to lose.

[Torbon8372]

Scalia for President!!

[itchybuttox]

GOoooooood bleeeesssss ameeeeerrriicaaaa!!!!

[nealo786]

Scalia has to be one of the biggest conservative nutjobs this country has seen. Ever since Regan appointed this Italian greaseball to the Supreme Court, we've had to put up with his dangerously overt conservative agenda. A true asshole in every respect.

[Kinbote123]

Do you even understand the responsibilities of a judge? Why don't you try and back up your inane statement with an example, from one of Scalia's opinions, of him being an asshole?

[ijoan]

How did I come upon this utube video?, I can fell you asking. Answer: I entered in google: "Scalia asshole", and got innumerable hits.

He is a disturbed turd who, in older lingo, suffers from a "napoleon complex". His position make him dangerous, and he openly practices "politics" on the bench, not even trying to hide it.

[Kinbote123]

Only people who have no understanding of Constitutional Jurisprudence think Scalia is dangerous. He has fought harder to preserve the integrity of the Constitution than any Justice in history.

Why don't you cite an example of Scalia being a dangerous judge? I know you can't.

[sklanger]

The funny thing is that almost all of the comments on this thread are made by non-lawyers who are completely ignorant of 8th amendment jurisprudence.

Torture outside of the criminal process is no more 'punishment' than corporal punishment in schools is 'punishment' under the 8th Amendment. That's Scalia's point.

Nevertheless, it's illegal under the torture statute, passed by Congress. Just because something is illegal doesn't make it unconstitutional. This is very basic.

[77pinehead]

Scalia is a strict asshole.

[tua59023]

Scalia is a strict constructionalist. He's not saying that torture should be permitted but that under the framework of the 8th Amendment torture isn't unconstitutional because it isn't punishment in the legal sense of it being a "cruel or unusual" sentence. What Scalia wants is Congress to pass a constitutional ban against torture. That is how he works. He feels too much is hidden in the 8th and 14th Amendment. I'm not saying I agree with him, in fact I don't, but i do know he isn't for torture

[lizrdsqshr]

Ok, so for interpreting the actual text of the Constitution, what is written there and what was likely intended by the Framers, he is ignorant? He's not saying, "Hey, torture is awesome." He's saying if we're interpreting the actual text of the Constitution, it doesn't forbid torture. "Punishment" and "torture" are not the same. If you're sentenced to jail, you'd say you were punished, but not that you were tortured. Scalia's a sharp guy if you're smart enough to understand him.

[tobyw87]

And this man is on the supreme court. What an ignorant fool. Videos like this make me fear for our country.

[ahoblit]

If person A says to person B "Tell what you know or I'll hit you" and person B says "no" Then if person A hits person B for not complying to his request then person A is punishing person B for this offense. Look up "punishment" in the dictionary and make your own informed decision. As far as Scalia is concerned he can invent any definition for the word "punishment" he likes even an ambiguous one. Fire him.

[danieleriskay]

"As far as Scalia is concerned he can invent any definition for the word "punishment" he likes even an ambiguous one. Fire him."

Why fire him? How would you fire him? An action of congress? If Congress could agree to that they'd certainly be able to pass a law explicitly forbidding torture, in which case Scalia's decision on the case in question would be irrelevant.

[trimacian]

232 years was long enough. Now it's time to fall...