@mookindook: While I'll admit Vidjo did make some obvious mistakes, like QA suiciding, these players are by no means bad. Omnigamer is an excellent player, and I've never heard of him playing Ganon, so it is plausible that he could've been sabdbagging. Please don't bash players that are most likely much better than yourself. And if you play only Brawl, you're even worse.
so where's pikachu in the whole tier thing? And Dr. Mario? I know Sheik's upper tier, and those are my three favorites (best with sheik, then pikachu)
So this is Melee's version of Pikachu... No thunder or skull bash? No wonder on the tier list he seriously got downgraded. I mean I'm a Pikachu user, and that's why I like using him. But only in Brawl. Nothing else. (except for future SSB games)
guys i have to be honest, but i believe marth should be on top of the tier list. fox is cool and all, but marth's range and grabs are just too broken. look at m2k and ken, and azen sometimes. they main marth at the time they are completely dominating the rest of the smash community
Fox for one, is easily better than marth. He has a huge variety of attacks, incredible speed, good vertical and horizontal killing moves, great grabs, an awesome spike, amazing smashes, decent defense, good semi-unpredictable recovery. He has no flaws.
Marth also has many advantages, but has no vertical killing moves and very predictable recovery.
PC Chris and his falco usually beat Ken and his Marth anyway, so you really aren't right.
Many has beaten PC Chris also. You should have said many has beaten Ken or something like that. Neo and Ken are the most noticed by what I've read about Marth and Roy(obviously). Ken lost the king of low tiers battle to Neo with both being Roy, but lost to Ken as Marth. Be more diverse(not an order).
Good Vid.. but i dont no how any Ganondarf can beat a pika. its pretty much impossible.. Even Omnigamer cant.. As u can see... but the n i see pikachu giving up near the end wtf have some redbulls jees
The tier list by definition applies when two players of equal skill and who play at a high level play each other. Skill>tiers. So this match DOES conform to the rules of tiers.
Fox has the highest potential of all the characters in SSBM and he is one of the hardest characters to be really good with because he takes so much technical skill to use properly.
It's much harder to win with Mewtwo, but Fox is significantly harder to learn...
You're both right. Fox is easy to learn, in that his style is easy to create. But, pro moves such as wave-shining, and controlling immense speed are all very difficult and outweigh what characters like Mewtwo need to know. However, Mewtwo takes a lot of skill to win with. They're both very difficult to learn in their own ways, regardless of their tier. I realize I'm being too specific with Mewtwo as an example, but yeah.
Sheik is the noob's best friend... Simple yet extremely effective combos, a great recovery that just takes a bit to get used to, and speed without the control difficulty of Fox and CF.
The tier list is about character potential and ability, not ease-of-use.
Dude, did omni just give up at the end?
JirachiMaster007 4 months ago
this is a.... pre-won game if you know what I mean.
kylewise14 5 months ago
from 2:55 to the end : perfect round ^^
supermeuhmeuh 10 months ago
omnigamer is like a fuckin average joe from my county.... wtf.
tkxl777 1 year ago
Thought Vidjo was a Peach... Hence the vidjodrop.
fearsomestmoocow 1 year ago
Pikachu is so fucking fun to watch.
passiveMenis 1 year ago
omg u rock at pikachu... are u using control stick or a?
jasonwupilly 2 years ago
oops triple posted.
Edge2437 2 years ago
god i hope Omnigamer is better than this now.
Edge2437 2 years ago
god i hope Omnigamer got better
Edge2437 2 years ago
I think my friend plays a better Ganon.
This Ganon was good, but not enough mind games! :P
But still a very good show among low tier players.
soccer6guy2004 2 years ago
best pikachu player ever...=D
dakoolbear123 2 years ago
pickachu is the best and mewtwo and mario
dodgers5554 2 years ago
What does Fox have to do with anything?
@mookindook: While I'll admit Vidjo did make some obvious mistakes, like QA suiciding, these players are by no means bad. Omnigamer is an excellent player, and I've never heard of him playing Ganon, so it is plausible that he could've been sabdbagging. Please don't bash players that are most likely much better than yourself. And if you play only Brawl, you're even worse.
ThePlatiepoos 3 years ago 2
these dudes suck
mookindook 3 years ago
This match was pretty funny :D
NoReasons 3 years ago
Nice. Pikachu was nice to watch and I liked the Ganon's down b's.
LiangRome 3 years ago
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ken is boring to watch.
lovingmonkay 3 years ago
is omni's name ken?
tedbratton 3 years ago 3
yeah sorry that psot was a while back ago and dont remember y i posted that but yeah ken is acually amazing to watch dunno what i was thinking about
lovingmonkay 3 years ago
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Gannon needs more wavedashing and shorthopping.
Pikachu needs more jump canceled grabs.
TehRealBaer 4 years ago
so where's pikachu in the whole tier thing? And Dr. Mario? I know Sheik's upper tier, and those are my three favorites (best with sheik, then pikachu)
NuthouseKid88 4 years ago
Pikachu is low tier.
Tenmashu 4 years ago
Dr. Is Mid tier
dudutsai 4 years ago
Pikachu is lowest of the low and Dr. Mario is the 4th best of the middle tiers. Just trying to be more helpful.
furyberserk 4 years ago
pikachu is bad but not that bad... kirby anyone?
mfeldy22 3 years ago
Kirby is bottom. In fact, he is worse than Bowser. BOWSER... of all characters.
brucenatelee 3 years ago
So this is Melee's version of Pikachu... No thunder or skull bash? No wonder on the tier list he seriously got downgraded. I mean I'm a Pikachu user, and that's why I like using him. But only in Brawl. Nothing else. (except for future SSB games)
dragoon858 2 years ago
@dragoon858 there is both thunder and skull bash, but he only used thunder once
Zoujen 7 months ago
guys i have to be honest, but i believe marth should be on top of the tier list. fox is cool and all, but marth's range and grabs are just too broken. look at m2k and ken, and azen sometimes. they main marth at the time they are completely dominating the rest of the smash community
crimson35124 4 years ago
Wow lol...
Fox for one, is easily better than marth. He has a huge variety of attacks, incredible speed, good vertical and horizontal killing moves, great grabs, an awesome spike, amazing smashes, decent defense, good semi-unpredictable recovery. He has no flaws.
Marth also has many advantages, but has no vertical killing moves and very predictable recovery.
PC Chris and his falco usually beat Ken and his Marth anyway, so you really aren't right.
max0823098213842342 4 years ago
Many has beaten PC Chris also. You should have said many has beaten Ken or something like that. Neo and Ken are the most noticed by what I've read about Marth and Roy(obviously). Ken lost the king of low tiers battle to Neo with both being Roy, but lost to Ken as Marth. Be more diverse(not an order).
furyberserk 4 years ago
Fox is light, so at least he has an advantage. Also, he has short range.
Largosmetal 3 years ago
should you jump cancel grabs with pika?
LVLEDup 4 years ago
yes
craiiggbtry 4 years ago
pikachu cuda done a lot better
shortwanabelaker 4 years ago
I bet that guy who play's ganondorf is good, but just doesn't main ganondorf.
TSpanda 4 years ago
Correct, he mains Kirby
Zizora 4 years ago
go vidjo. Is this the same vidjo with the ungodly peach???
xydaine 4 years ago
Not necesarily. It all depends if you're technical or mostly focus on mindgames.
BentoBox 4 years ago 2
Good Vid.. but i dont no how any Ganondarf can beat a pika. its pretty much impossible.. Even Omnigamer cant.. As u can see... but the n i see pikachu giving up near the end wtf have some redbulls jees
Copperateme 4 years ago
I've never seen Pikachu played so seriously. That was a great sight.
KidOrochimaru 4 years ago
this goes to prove my point:
tier list is BULL****!
its not much the character, but the player. tiers are just dumb.
yishto 4 years ago
well... for the most part tiers are correct but i mean... the player does indeed play a large roll though.
darkenedsoldier9 4 years ago
tiers are only in affect when both players are equal in skill
TheEmeraldAngel 4 years ago
The tier list by definition applies when two players of equal skill and who play at a high level play each other. Skill>tiers. So this match DOES conform to the rules of tiers.
Slashtap3 4 years ago
you obviously don't understand what the basis behind the tier list is
Naucitos 4 years ago
You misinterpret the point of tier lists. Characters lower on the tier lists have substantially higher learning curves.
For example: It's a hell of a lot easier to learn Fox as opposed to learning Mewtwo.
ripoffindustry 4 years ago
That's almost entirely backwards...
Fox has the highest potential of all the characters in SSBM and he is one of the hardest characters to be really good with because he takes so much technical skill to use properly.
It's much harder to win with Mewtwo, but Fox is significantly harder to learn...
Protoguy1 4 years ago 5
You're both right. Fox is easy to learn, in that his style is easy to create. But, pro moves such as wave-shining, and controlling immense speed are all very difficult and outweigh what characters like Mewtwo need to know. However, Mewtwo takes a lot of skill to win with. They're both very difficult to learn in their own ways, regardless of their tier. I realize I'm being too specific with Mewtwo as an example, but yeah.
BlueFoxXT 4 years ago
umm fox is not easy to learn.....he takes alot of skill and practice to play. pros still mess up with fox yet they rarely do with marth or shiek.
Omniswell 4 years ago
Fox is easy as hell. Really and Truly. Skill is easy, talent is impossible, unless you already have it.
furyberserk 4 years ago
The top of the tier list consists of the hardest characters to learn, while the bottom is the easiest.
Recovery, weight, fall speed, jump height, and actual damage fall into play.
flashedwave 4 years ago
I disagree, look at ganondorf.
TSpanda 4 years ago
Ganondorf is very strong, though he has a somewhat bad recovery. His jump isn't too far or high, and his run speed is pretty much slow.
Which is why he's somewhere in the middle, but not exactly middle tier (I'm not sure, haven't seen the list in a while)
flashedwave 4 years ago
He is near the bottom of middle tier.
Protoguy1 4 years ago
Sheik is the noob's best friend... Simple yet extremely effective combos, a great recovery that just takes a bit to get used to, and speed without the control difficulty of Fox and CF.
The tier list is about character potential and ability, not ease-of-use.
Protoguy1 4 years ago
Rape on the last life by Pika...nice Vidjo
maynardnut 4 years ago
Ganondorf played a little bad xD
ArturoWii 4 years ago
Vidjo was messing around like half of that match.
Xelic 4 years ago
Vidjo should stick to pika, unless playing foxes and falcos and stuff, then he should go back to Cheap, i mean Peach.
MelodicDaath 4 years ago
I'm a pikachu user too but they way he used it was so pro lol
icyxwarrior 4 years ago
Close match to me. Though I wanted Omni to win. :P
HoshiPurin 4 years ago
holy jesus, I like vidjo even more now seeing his pika. That sub par ganon didn't stand a chance
atomdizl 4 years ago
this pikachu is really hard
WillieEener 4 years ago
gannon sucks ass
DCL14 4 years ago
gannon got owned
cactar7 5 years ago
Pwn3d lol
Arthrus111 5 years ago
Vidjo is amazing with pikachu
RedYoshi92 5 years ago
Wow, he plays such a nasty Pika.. Funny match =D
GodheadsLamentX 5 years ago