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  • What song is playing in this section. It is so angsty wonderful

  • "We're all about to die and you two are just squabbling like an old married couple!"

    Doctor: "Aw....hell."

  • "I have a crush on Rarity!"

  • @nigahiga68 Thanks. Thanks a lot. Now I can't watch this totally emotional scene without laughing my ass off. THANK YOU SO FRIGGIN MUCH.

  • @Racization Um... you're welcome?

  • 4 people have not seen this show yet.

  • I love the "You're just swapping like an old married couple" and then the Doctor just gets this "God no" look.

  • It's definitely the 11th that sees her right before the library. Check out the "First night and last night" mini episode:

    /watch?v=OXCEOr9Pz8g

    Doesn't necessarily mean she never meets future doctors though, since her life is buzzing with doctors from time to time anyway.

  • i am just wondering how long its been since he has heard his name?

  • @donnalee0473 Not so long that he's forgotten it apparently.

  • By the Gods i love these 2 episodes. Miss the Doctor/Donna.

  • 0:55 and at the time the doctor is probably thinking holy shit i cant believe it fuck that's my wife hey i have a future that is nice to know

  • @Xwaterwolf100X Nah, he wore a bowtie in Voyage of the Damned.

  • A line later in the two parter is:

    "You whispered my name in my ear. There is only one way I could."

    And I remember another line "bow tie and a suit." Anyone think she's going to die soon?

  • well i think that she is going to be the docter or something

  • @neodude7 She is the Doctor's wife. How can she be the Doctor as well?

  • FOR ALL WHO DONT UNDERSTAND: SHE TOLD HIM HIS NAME, There was no Teselecta, no crap like that, she told him his name. If she said '' Look into my eyes'', he would like into her eyes and wouldn't understand. But the understanding that River knew his name was shocking to him.

  • @SpectreICollateral Exactly. Remember the blue dude's prophecy at the end of "The Wedding of River Song"? I think THAT is when she's going to learn his name.

  • thats not true she whisphers his name not her secret

  • SOMEONE PLEASE REPLY TO THIS!! So did she say "look into my eye"?? And the 11th doctor and river song were in there?

  • @Wellygoggs13 we don't know what she said...its assumed she said his name but that's just speculation.

  • @amirizar2012 not true. He says in the end of this episode that she said his name.

  • @Wellygoggs13 since this was the first episode we see her and the last one really....i'm not sure how they will play out her death. i'm very curious as when they will return to that story arch if it will be in Series 7 or later i really don't know.

  • @amirizar2012 i hope so!!

  • @Wellygoggs13 It's all a mystery really .....i kinda doubt we will ever find out his name of course it all comes back to what Dorium said at the end of The Wedding Of River Song. i'm looking forward to seeing that play out.

  • @amirizar2012 I certainly hope that they at least give us an idea of when this will happen in the upcoming series. She can't just one day be gone. They should show the scene where he takes her to see the singing towers and he cries and gives her his screwdriver.

  • @cassindia1987 I hope that too it would be nice to see some of the things she talked about....it would give good closure for her Character. We still don't know which version of the doctor takes her although i'm assuming it's the current doctor....i really don't know.

  • @amirizar2012 It is, there is a short showing meeting himself (By accident) To the singing towers.

  • @ScottDavid7 ohhh yes i forgot about that it would still be nice to see the actual singing towers though.

  • @amirizar2012 Yes it would, I also wanna see him give her his/her screwdriver (I think he made her a special screwdriver for her but either he or she is lying)

  • @ScottDavid7 ahh yes that would be a nice close to her story. i doubt they are both lying....somehow the doctor knew she would need it eventually...he might have known how she would die..thats a possibility. i wonder if Series 7 will deal with those questions.

  • @amirizar2012 I hope not. That would mean no more River :( but yes, it probably will.

  • @ScottDavid7 I wonder though .....we've hardly seen her in the show up till now so mayby we can have her a little longer. now that we know her end her episode with the tenth doctor is so depressing!

  • @ScottDavid7 When i first watched the episode her waking up and seeing her friends "alive" was happy....now the scene is very bittersweet and kinda depressing. the doctor feeling the loss of someone he didn't hardly know (but that person knowing everything about him) and seeing her die and river dying with the knowledge that the man she loves did'nt know who she was.

  • @amirizar2012 I feel the same. However I am holding on to the hope that they will bring her back somehow. Like the Doctor kidnapped her and replaced her with Flesh. So now her real body is laying dormant while her mind is in the computer, and he Doctor simply has to unite the two. That would make an interesting episode or two...

  • @ScottDavid7 hummm that would be intersting.....i kinda doubt that though and i really hope they don't cop out on her original death. I was kinda bored with those episodes with the flesh...i didn't hate the episodes but i didn't love them either.

  • @Wellygoggs13 No she didn't. It was a joke somebody made earlier.

  • Continuing. The Doctor and River are married by loose human standards. He will say his name when they get bonded by The Doctor's customs.

    Hope this all makes sense.

  • Sorry. It didn't print all of the explanation. They are loosely married by human

  • Sorry, it didn't all print. They are married by loose human standards.

    As far as River in the Library, I think Mr. Moffat has that all taken care of. Season 7 should be Amazing. Hopefully, we will also find out what the base code of the Universe and the TARDIS blowing up have to do with everything.

  • Hello all,

    Ok. Lots of theories are out there. I don't think the Doctor is going to die at Trenslore. That would mean no regenerations. Lots of theories on that also.

    River knows his name from the beginning. So , all the time we are now watching Series 4-6, she knows but doesn't tell him. She ??(Spoilers) let it out when the Doctor latches on to her in the pyramid.

    The Doctor and River have to take their vows in the presence of the time vortex for it to be Gallifrey legal. They are married b

  • He tells River his name at the fields of Trenzalore at the fall of the Eleventh when The Question is asked

  • This is just a theory, but the doctor said that there is only ONE time he would ever tell someone his name. Obviously it couldn't have been his wedding day because River told Amy that wasn't what he had whispered. So, the only other time would be his death. Therefore she must of said sorry because by her knowing his name it means he dies, and must have told River his name while he was dying.

  • One thing that's always puzzled me is; why did River apologize before whispering his name?

  • I just thought of a theory what if River was never here what if river dies before the library in a plot to confuse people and the doctor takes the tesselecta and goes to the library dressed as river reenacting what he remembers knowing that he going to meet her later and keep the timeline in check THAT WOULD BE CRAZY

  • "I'm really, very sorry." 11th Doctor speaking there.

  • @lediadruid oh god. now when i think about that... i wouldn't be surptised if that turned out to be true.

    i think now that i kind of know how everything happened i might watch the series from this episode again. i bet there are bunch of things and lines that now will make a lot more sence that the first time i watched.

  • I miss David Tennant!!

  • yeah yeah so right i knew it

  • AHHHH i see now that's the tessalator (i think that's it) not river, and at the end where she dies she might get transported out of the index with the others, well that's my thoughts anyway

  • @LTGeraldo its acctually called the tesselecta

  • what is the name of the music when river whisper in the doctors ear? it sounds so familiar yet i can't place it despite the fact i have the series 1-5 soundtracks and have listened to them many times.

  • @amirizar2012 I don't know the name of the song, but i know it was also used during season 1 when doctor #9 extracts the time vortex from rose. you might want to try that season's soundtrack

  • @supernerdsarah Thanks P: i knew i recognized it somewhere

  • @amirizar2012 Turn Left, from the Season 4 soundtrack.

  • @Kamane thanks....i just now recognized it funnily enough and turn left is my favorite song from the season 4 soundtrack

  • Has anyone else noticed that his name is always, like, two syllables?

  • After I met River, I was NEVER able to watch this episode again.

  • Ok I think River did say His name cause the Tenth said "You whisper me my name, you couldn't know unless..."

    I have been told that his real name is Theta Sigma, But i think it's bull. No One knows his real name except The Gallifreyian Timelords, River and Possibly Donna if she did get her memory wiped!

    But anyways River/Doctor are my all time Fav Couple

  • @MissVioletWolf Theta Sigma is the name he used in school --have to look up The Academy years.

  • @MissVioletWolf "Theta Sigma" was a nickname he used at The Academy..not his actual name.

  • just spotted that her screwdriver is the tenth doctors not the 11ths which means she would of had to marry the 11th then he would have to change back to tennant for her to get it

  • @MegaCarpcrazy yeah thats one thing they couldnt fix after david left :(

  • @MegaCarpcrazy does that mean, for her, it was matt smith, then tennant so her husband was tennant when she officially died?

  • @MegaCarpcrazy Her's isn't quite the same as 10's. Her's has a trigger guard, red settings, and the memory chip. New theory I just made up on the spot: River's screwdriver is a rebuilt version of 10's, after 11 broke it in The Eleventh Hour. If I recall, he burnt it out, but didn't loose it, meaning it's probably sitting in a junk drawer somewhere in the TARDIS.

  • Funny thing is, she can't have told him his name since he never told her his name, he just said *prepares to be eatel alive by fellow whovians who haven't seen the finale* look into my eye!

  • @michio2013 He could have told her his name at some other time.

  • @michio2013

    He didn't tell her his name then, but he doesnt die, so could tell her at some point in the future, hence the future River, in this episode, knows his name

  • @michio2013 but EVENTUALLY he told her his name

  • @michio2013 but he probably told her at some point...

    "And Dr. Song, imprisoned all her days?"

    "Her days, yes. Her nights...well...that's between her and me, eh?"

  • River: Dear god your hard working young..

    well you can talk you ex-pschycopath!!!

  • she knows his name because she read it off the doctors baby crib in galifrean

  • I noticed some foreshadowing the the very first episode of season 6 that completely makes sense in relation to episdoe 13 P:

  • OMG. O. M. G. Talk about epic foreshadowing. You two sound like a old married couple. HA! Epicness.

  • @keepinlow It's amazing the amount of foreshadowing sprinkled about now that we notice it. It makes me enjoy watching the episodes even more.

  • What did she whisper in his ear???? Me confused!!

  • @DragonSpahirre that she "just saved a bunch of money by switching to Geico" :) lol

  • @DragonSpahirre watch the full episode.

  • SHE NEVER SAID HIS NAME!!!!!

    SHE SAID "look into my eyes." and there was her and Matt Smith waving while wearing stetsons.

  • @SWACroxYOURsoxOFF if that were the case she'd still be alive cuz they would have borrowed to robots ram instead of her brain's

  • @SWACroxYOURsoxOFF He didn't whisper his name to her when they got married on top of the pyramid, true, but he does tell her his name at some point. Steven Moffat just hasn't written that episode yet, but he did say that's one of the things that will get answered.

  • @SWACroxYOURsoxOFF I think you mean fezzes x3

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  • What a great bit of acting, the look on his face when she whispered his name was classic. Now I get why she said she was sorry.

  • @dsfdotnet It's a look of surprise/shock and DT played the moment perfectly in this scene!

  • "squabbling like an old married couple!"

    If only they knew...

  • @timesplitter2512 one of em does ;0

  • @timesplitter2512 Well, River knows.

  • I love how the music changes right as River whispers in the doctors ear

  • She could have visited Gallifrey before the war, and watched him grow up, knew him. She could have been told by The Master in another time stream. Tennant could have gone to the future and met her and had a real wedding, etc. It's all up to the writers.

    But, I fell in love with this character in this episode!

  • @redmatrix I did too and knowing what we know now...that makes this episode seem so tragic. Although it's nice that you can spot little clues that wouldn't have made sense up until now. I think we will see more of river since her story has been planned for ages.

  • @amirizar2012 IT is amazing, huh? I think she was Davies' idea, and Moffatt has not gone astray. There was no River Song in the old series, but imagine if she would show up in a time displacement with a previous doctor?

    Who's young enough... Eccleson!

    PS: Sorry for my spelling of names, too lazy to check.

  • @redmatrix ahhh that would be very awesome. I'm so looking forward to seeing more of her.

  • @redmatrix

    Moffat wrote the episode and I'm pretty sure, or at least he implies it in intervies, that he created her. It'd be interesting if it was though. Moffat taking River from Davies and Davies taking Jack from Moffat.

  • @GetterRay Indeed. Need more info.

  • He's just like :o

  • what if she whispered "look in my eye" she didn't but hey cant blame me for wanting river song to live

  • If you've seen the last episode.

    Silence MUST fall when the question is asked.

    On the fields of Trenzalore, at the fall of the Eleventh, when no living creature may speak falsely or fail to give answer, a question will be asked. A question that must never, ever be answered.

    Doctor WHO

  • @deathra1990 well since River/Melody knows his name its safe to say the universe doesnt get screwed over when the Question is asked

  • "On the fields of Trenzalore, at the fall of the Eleventh, when no living creature may speak falsely or fail to give answer, a question will be asked. A question that must never, ever be answered." River will be there, the question will be answered, the 11th doctor will fall and the 12 th doctor will rise, so its a bit sad that he must die in order for River to find out his name...

  • @dojle74 i know i liked everything about that apart from ''the fall of the eleventh'' i dont want matt to leave hes the fittest doctor yet! but you never know! he might not change his face#! coz i remember in the past when her regenerated he said he didnt have to change his appearence or something? but i have a feeling they will want to have a new doctor for his last ever regeneration

  • With the recent season finale, THIS part has me wondering. If the doctor didn't tell her his name, what is she telling him now?! Then again it still leaves the door open for a potential show where she /does/ learn his name but I fear that particular episode will be a show in which the doctor dies and tells River the big secret he's never told anyone. Or perhaps he'll just regenerate. AH POSSIBILITIES!!!

  • @izzieismadeofwin yeah I wondered that too. Because "look in my eyes" or whatever out of context like it would be here would mean nothing to the doctor now. Maybe she learns his name in another situation that hasn't happened yet... there is the first question after all which is pretty much "what is the doctors real name" so maybe she learns it later, or maybe he told her his name too who knows.

  • @izzieismadeofwin I think we'll know that in Christmas' Episode.

  • The Look On The Doctor's Face When River Tells Him Is Name Was PERFECT!

  • i think his name might be...what ever river said!!

    hee heee

    no seriously i think it is silence...

  • don't get me wrong! She came across as a very sweet woman. I don't wish that sweet old lady any harm. But as Dr Phil gently tried to point out to her, this behavior isn't normal. and its often used as a means to hide fears of growing old and dying.

    My point isn't that river is afraid of dying. My point is that just because someone's "nice" doesn't mean that they don't look like a complete and total fool.

  • fantastic together! Now she (the actress not the character she played) would have made a good river song. Alex is just too old to be believable.

    and people can stfu with the ageist crap. its called reality. no one wants to see 2 people together who look like mother and son. I was just watching an old Dr Phil show yesterday from 2006. This 62 grandmother had all sorts of plastic surgery to look young she dresses in mini-skirts and leopard print gloves and she looks like a complete fool.

  • disagreeing obvious will never work for a casting agency. you need to have good taste and a good eye to match up two actors. There are good-looking MARRIED actors who look like crap on screen.

    she looks like his mother. I bet 90% of the casting agents out there would agree with me.

    Now the actress who played Idris. I know nothing about her. I have no idea what she looks like in real life. she could be gorgeous or a complete dog-face. BUT she and Matt had chemistry galore! They looked

  • I might have missed an episode or too, but when did the doctor give her the screwdriver....i can't recall that moment.

  • @singerrock1213 She says he gave it to her the last time she saw him before she went to the library so odds are i wont happen for a at least another series

  • but why is she sorry if she says his name?

  • @MssWiggly because he believes nobody should know there own future but she had no choice but to tell him that he'll tell her his real name.

  • @MssWiggly because the doctor's name has been a secret since the beginning of the series in 1963, none of his companions, friends, or enemy's know it (except possible other time lords, but there all dead now). Their must be some reason why he hasn't told them, and apparently its not a good one.

  • anybody know what the doctors name is?

  • @kittielover5678 His real name is Theta Sigma

  • she said " i know your secret, your gay"

  • Oh man. I met at the sight of david tennant! Im flippin jealous of River!

  • So the Doctor's name is presumably what he whispers to river near the end of Let's Kill Hitler...

  • @UnaccountablySelfy Thing is, telling her his name doesn't really matter to her at that point in time (as opposed to her telling it to him back in The Library) so I highly doubt that's what he told her.

  • @ilmanti But he'd have to have told her at some point, and given that he was (or thought he was) about to die, I would have thought that that'd be what he told her. However, I would very much like it to be something else, though what else it'd be I don't know (yet)

  • @UnaccountablySelfy yes he will tell her for sure - assuming he's going to marry her I would imagine he'd tell her at some point. But I doubt it was what he told her at the end of LKH.

  • @ilmanti I think Unacc..... is correct. Remember, she doesn't know that she is River and also she hasn't met David Tennant's doctor yet, so she had to get his name somehow, so I think that is what Matt Smith's doctor whispered to her.

  • Interesting forest they're in the middle of. Only water there is in the River.

  • I love the doctor's face at 1:33 he's like OMG

  • she said benjamin 

  • She obviously whispered "I prefer Eccleston"

  • @EmtyThe1st lmao

  • she knows his real name

  • @SuperYagam Benjamin?

  • Im guessing she said 'Im a Time Lord too'

  • @TheBritsOfMinecraft She told him his real name - he says so later in the episode.

  • @TheBritsOfMinecraft she said his name.

  • @TheMikebarn yea i kinda found that out right after i wrote the comment my friend was kinda annoyed because he thinks i know everything about Doctor who :D

  • The doctor can't regenerate.

    The Doctor dies 200 years in his future, and still has the same face.

    BADABOOMBAH!

  • Unless, he comes back on another time line, lies to Amy about his age and then "dies".... Anything is possible with Dr. Who. lol

  • @HeatherakaHellcat OR There could somehow be a link to the flesh, and the 200 something old doctor is flesh...

  • no she tells him his real name

  • "I didn't pluck it from your cold dead hands."

    Oh snap, I think I know where she gets it then. (Series 6)

  • @BackslideDan but the sonic screwdriver is different from the one she has in there. and the 11th's still different from hers. so it can't be his end.

  • @DigiCosmicAngel Wibbly wobbly designy winey.

  • @BackslideDan fair said. *Shrugs*

  • @BackslideDan That still leaves the question who takes the sonic from the skeleton hand in the teaser....

  • @stijnhommes T-T... that is exactly what I am imply- oh whatever, let's just wait for the bloody show. Trust the Moff and stuff...

  • she might of said, doctor, i watched you die!

  • She's amy and Rory's daughter but it would be weird and a bit disgusting if ( a s everyone keeps saying) she was the doctor's wife. She acts like a wife ( of sorts) which is odd!

  • River song whispers his name because the doctor isn't just the "doctor"

    He has a name that he has never told anyone before unless he trusts them with his life

    I.e-professor river song

    Thumbs up if u knew that

    :)

  • @xxmizzcrazyxx I'm thinkin he never tells anyone his real name because it's Gallifreyian, it doesn't translate, and nobody would understand it anyway. Only time he could tell anyone his name and have it make sense is if the person he's speaking to, speaks Gallifreyian. They had me going for a while thinking River was the Rani because she left a message for him in that language and really, what human ever bothers to learn that language?

  • @xxmizzcrazyxx I THINK YOU ONLY KNOW HIS NAME WHEN HE IS TRULY DEAD, OR WHEN HIS KILLER IS THERE OR STHG LIKE THAT SO... THATS WHY SHE KNOWS IT.

  • @xxmizzcrazyxx On the other hand, she could have said "look into my eyes."

  • @xxmizzcrazyxx And she's sorry since we all know that when he answers the question Silence will Fall, and since he knows his name, he answered the question. Especially since if you think about it, he would not tell anyone besides River

  • @xxmizzcrazyxx - Excluding Time Lords, a lot of them knew his name since it was them that told the doctor to take an alias, the only confirmed people to have known the doctor's name is his mother, the master, rassilon, River Song and possibly the rani

  • I think eleven is even more emotional, but that adds to his character.

  • 'didn't pry it from you cold dead hands...'.....any coincidence that the promo for the new series is the screwdriver in a fleshless hand...

  • @SJ3GIRL That was exactly what I was thinking :D

  • She whispers his name, that's what she did.

  • she must've said something in Gallifrayian or something

  • Anoher possibility is the Doctor doesn't know is real name in the sense he can't recall it from memory. He may recognize it when he hears it but can't specifically remember it. Perhaps a safety mechanism.

  • she told him rebbeca black made a whole album

  • @AlDaFunkyMonkey Ahahahahaha

  • "And your name is... Merlin!" XD Sorry-sorry! Just random crap, I couldn't help ^_^ It's be awesome and horrible all at the same time if his name really was John Smith.

  • T_T He didn't trust Rose with his real name T_T Also, what did she say at 0:50?

  • Maybe it really is "I honestly did pluck it out of a cold, dead hand. But I changed the sonic screwdriver colour from green to blue."

    Okay, that's too much to say in a 5 secong parting.

  • "We're all gonna die right here, and you're just squabbling like an old, married couple!"

    Well... They kind of are.