5.56mm NATO isn't steel jacketed; it's a copper jacket with a steel core... what fucking idiot made this video? Oh wait-- probably some dumbass who's never seen an actual 5.56 round... if you take a Gerber and pull the bullet out of the casing, you can see the steel core on the ass end of the bullet... and don't worry about sparks igniting the powder; the casing is brass... it's safe; we used to do it in the Army and light the power lol kinda cool...
to the people that compare military groups for one all of the USA works togethar and if you think know well heh hard to see a marine or any other footman to get any were with out a plane,ship,truck/car,taxpayers ^_^ o and marines were invented by the navy for ship to ship combat.
@dasrever no, the marines were not invented by the navy. they were used for the navy to keep the normal sailors in line, and also they specialized in using the blunderbuss from the raftings of the ships to rain down on everyone on the other ship.
@holoi145 So, i guess ARMA 2 ended up being a huge fail too right? i mean, it only score 1 point higher on metacritic. And i guess it was such a big fail, that in the first week of release, Dragon Rising sold more then 1.5 million copies world wide... Please, shut the fuck up and let the adults talk about this, thank you :)
@bud389 It is still getting heavily modded, played, bought, patched and updated with DLC and feature upgrades today. And will be for many years to come. OFP: Fail Rising was relatively dead a few months after release.
@SAbre5311 tell me, if it's dead then how is it's community still up and running? Ohhh, so i guess Crysis 1 is dead too? And Half-Life? That's right, they aren't... Why don't you take your big, dumb, stupid ass out of this video.
@SAbre5311 Unfortuantly, Theres still a large base of people doing what they can with DR to imrpove it and make it a great game.
I've stuck with Dragon Rising since day 1. At first, Hated it. Came back to look at some community stuff (see TemplarGFX for a taster) and loved it since.
I wasnt playing for 2 weeks and started playing again now i am in mission 11 and i like most weapons. In this case i would say it was the player but thats what i ment with the "8D" after my comment.
@KnorpelDelux hey should iget Operation Flash Point 2, Tekken 6, or X-Men Origins Wolvering? Which one has better graphics and more hours of gameplay? Thanks.
What kind of question is that? Tekken and OFP2 doesnt have that much together and Xman is a different thing too...its your choise i can just say that OFP2 isnt as good as we all thought.
curt2e i can obvs tell you havnt played this game then, coz, you stand up from about 700m in this game and somone will see you and fuck you over
the amount of times i was just nicly skipping through a field and bam shot in the face dunno where it came from, thats what this games like, not like your shitty cod ass, cod is the rambo shit, run in boom boom dead, this is run in, bang YOUR dead
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this came sucks dick and isnt real for shit the only real part is the bullet drop. other than that it takes like 10 shots to be killed and to kill. it feels like your playing a retarded robot in the game. who says you cant be rambo i can go ass fuck a guy in the game before he even knows what to do. CoD is way more realistic for guns and everything than this piece of crap
well you can say that COD is realistic in bullet trajectory because most gunfights in COD are Close Quarter not like OFP where you have to look at your scope just to shoot accurately and adjust your scope just to compensate for the distance because bullets can't shoot straight within 200 feet. plus when you get shot yo'll have to call a medic instead of just hiding in COD
the reason, they don't want to fail the COD fanboys, and here's one thing i noticed FPS gamers always compare all other FPS games to COD, here's the difference COD is more like an arcade style FPS while OFP is a simulator. and yes , i have played OFP2 in CQB which is pretty rare, in fact 50 yards is danger close especially if the game still has bugs in it and your team mates are not good shooters.
nah its pretty good but i think everyone thinks its bad cause to comand your team is a bitch thats mad hard by the time you give them an order your already shot in the face
yea true but i aint gonna lie it is hard tho the only thing i got a problem with is the way to issue comands and how they list out grids instead of saying o take cover behind that tree
@LBJohn15 I'm used to the navy seals and ghost recon games where it requires you to command your team. Believe it or not, I haven't ever played COD 4, COD5, or COD6.
the british army were involved in the making of this and seeing as there army is one of the most professional in the world i bet this is going to be 10 times more realistic than mw2.
@macky111222 Since when MW2 has been realistic?????? BF:BC2 is realistic. MW2 is not. For example, you can fire weapons, at full rate rapid fire, and not lose any accuracy. Second of all, if you hip-fire the Intervention, the bullet will go totally to somewhere else, that where it should go. IT IS A SNIPER PEOPLE!
@DragonNarutoZGT MW2 and BF have there realism in there own way...You can stand up with a sniper rifle and it not even move..real life the gun would be like MW2...MW2 doesnt have bullet drop...the no scoping in MW2 is un realistic...and when u slap a clip/magazine in like in BF u increase the chance of a jam...
@thebestpioltever nah not unless u have a Sub sonic bullet put that in your gun and a suppressor it sounds like your shooting air...The scopes arent wrong either im not sure exactly what your sayin there though and ya it has no proper balistics...and the reloading is right whats wrong about it? in BF when u reload when ur not out of ammo u cock the gun u dont do that in real life and MW2 i dont get what u mean by its wrong runnin out of characters.. =/
@Phynix93 Take the M16. Once you empty a clip. He drops the clip and puts in a new one. Hits side of gun and carries on firing.
In real life you would need to press the "ejector switch", pull out a new clip from your belt or vest, place it into the magazine hold. And then pull back the charging handle to chamber the next round. Also, a major problem with COD's, is with STANAG magazines is they are curved, and in COD, they inset the new magazine with the curve, like on Mp5K... which is wrong.
@thebestpioltever Ok i thought you'd say that...Im not sure bout the MP5 so ill take your word for it but your wrong about the M16...Its reloading is right the quick release is on the right side of your gun to u can use your trigger finger to drop the mag then theres a bolt release which is what he uses to chamber a round after he unloads them all because of the bolt catch in the gun...And explain the
@Phynix93 STANAG Magazines are curved. In many games the animators place it in "with the groove" like try slide it along the curve. This is same with many guns on games.
And about the M16 comment. You really should pull back charging handle to be certian a round is chamberd. But i suppose its mostly used to clear jams etc.
The bolt release isnt best option to put in a game. But fine, still, alot of the guns have badly animated and designed weapon/reload.
@thebestpioltever ok i think i get what you mean and now that you've said that about the M16 your definitely right they should have done that with the charging handle...
@Phynix93 Aha, yes I try not to go mad and start cursing people, i actually though you were gonna do it too.
Anyway. Most NATO STANAG magazines are curved. And in games i see to often them try to put it in along its curve. Or try slot it in sideways and then push upwards.
When its desinged to only let you go from staight below, and push straight upwards on the magazine. I think companies need to go and actually fire these guns and reload them themsevles before making games...
@thebestpioltever like when they reload in MW2 the twist the gun to the side and put the mag in from the side? thats what ya mean right? if so why cant u do this? or why shouldnt u sorry...
@Phynix93 If the magazine is curved. It should go perpendicular to the actual weapon. Where the top of the magazine is lined up with the actual chamber.
In many games the magazine is either to a side, or tilted forward. With real life STANAG magazines or other curved magazines, the clip would get caught and wouldn't actually be able to lock in properly. And a round wont be chambered.
This is mostly true for AR-15 series, and other NATO weaponary.
@macky111222 MW2 was only 5% realistic....I mean how many soldiers do you see running around with a extremely heavy Barrett, quick scoping the shit out of terrorists?
lol i read this guys comment some where and he said 'of course the bullet will reach you before you hear the shot its got a frekin supresser on it' lmao
wow all of a sudden we have a load of gun experts commenting... i'm sure you were all in the army.... either that or you sit down reading about bullets and bullet penetration all your lives. nice
The Thing is people are expecting a very realistic game, because the game is like a better fps but worst version of arma 2, as if this game was attracting mw2 fans then they wouldnt care about realism.
this is a good game to work with each outher cod 456 is 1 man show i cant weight till comes oit online play is gunna be class can u vrs each outher or is it just misions
@RicardoR5 yup,just because they'r noobs and like campung in a tiny map with a 50cal or an M60 make 9898 kills and think they are good! i also haate the fact that you can go behind a tree or something and heal 100% in 4secs,even after an RPG hit rofl xD this is aamerican movie way xD not war simulation xD
Well feel i have to comment on this one.... the Danish army used 7,62 about 10 years ago. It was said that shot at the same place i had some kind of armour piersing effect (well back then) - then the army moved to use 5,56, like a lot of armies use all over the world (Nato)... fighting along side friends and not being able to share ammo isnt good.
But let it be said - no army would use ammo that dosnt kill with the first bullet.
I thought military ammo was made not to kill as main purpose but to wound an enemy soldier i mean if u wound a soldier he needs medical attention and stuff like that and a dead soldier doesnt.
It seems strange that the army is not allowed to use hollow tipped bullets or scratch the bullet jacket. All it means is that the person you shoot is more likely to die, which surely is the whole point in a war?
Well technically your saying we should use a bullet for effective at killing targets,yes? If we were to deveop a bullet that has seraded(excuse my spelling) edges If it were to hit a Vital organ such as the liver or heart instead of dieing within 35 seconds or so which in that time the wounded can pick up a weapon and fight.But with a new bullet they'd die instanly.
JHP (jacketed hollow point) rounds do not have the same effectiveness in armor penetration. The NATO 5.56x45mm ammunition is specifically engineered to penetrate CRISAT armor at 150m and body armor at further ranges. Regardless, the 5.56x45mm in its current version has too high a barrel twist to cause much tissue damage in the short-ranges of urban combat, thus several units have turned to the 6.8mm cartridge. At further ranges, the 5.56 does much greater damage as the bullet destabilizes.
the point of it is to take him out of battle not to kill him we r train to take wounding shots if you have a man down then you need the medic to help him out and then you need some grunts or who ever to carry his ass out of the line of fire witch will take out 2 or 3 or how ever manny ppl r helping him at the same time taking one permanently out
Is that the NATO round that once it enters your body it spins and churns up you insides? I think they brought it in because the bullets the Americans were using in Iraq etc were just ging through suicide bombers and not dropping them.
I think they changed the grain since Vietnam so its got a bit more weight behind it, though i may be wrong. The round tumbles when it hits so leaves an enlarged wound. If you look at the round from an AK the tip is hollow but jacketed so when the bullet hits it creates greater damage.
Its still a serious offence in the British Army at leat to cut notches in the jacket of the bullet to increase its wounding effect!
lol...so your telling me, if i got shot in the ass with a AK47 (7.62mm) round i will have a high chance of surving than gettin shot in the ass with SCAR-L (5.56mmNATO) or vice versa?
Neither that would depend on the veriables like where you are hit! To be honest i don't have a clue. Being shot with either is not advisable, my mate whos a medic was telling me how the rounds shatter bone, its really not nice!
Indeed, but as sometimes happens the AK round ends up going straight through somebody and providing it doesnt hit any major internal components, the person could well survive getting shot.
A smaller round however would disintigrate on impact causing a larger area of effect and rarely leaving the body on the other side. This means that more kinetic energy is transfered to the person causing more damage than a bullet which just traveled straight on through.
The 5.56x45mm has greater armor penetration capability and a better ballistic coefficient than the 7.62x39mm cartridge used in the Atvomat Kalashnikov Model 47 weapons. The 7.62 round does cause greater tissue damage at short range due to the fact that it is a larger bullet.
Furthermore, both calibers have armor piercing load variants, utilizing steel/tungsten cores.
Heres where you need to clarify although the ammo type you said i believe is Ak47, your not saying whether u are talking about the innacurate ak47 or the accurate ak74?
Well a scope and someone good you could, but yeah that round is for close combat only and in that sense it is better than the 5.56. Much more power at those ranges.
yeah but in a CQB i would prefer a completely different gun if this is only between the AR15 and AK47 then yeah AK for CQB i personaly love the M16 or whatever so i would still use it lol
and all AK and AR fans r on the same side im kinda tired of the arguing... i regret even saying that comment lol we r all pro gun fighting to keep it legal and we should put more time in to that in sted of fighting each other
the 5.56 you have to put multiple rounds into a person before they go down where the 7.62x9 has way more knock down power and the ak is not made for accuracy its made for mid range firefights. and the m16 and m4 jam like crazy even if they have no carbon build up on the inside where the ak you can throw in sand and mud and they still operate without a hitch I would rather have an ak any day.
have you ever been hit a bullet.. no ur just some ignorant kid arnt ya and wow im not even going to argue with you your statement is so far out there u take what ppl tell you and stretch it pass the orginal statement limits
m16 and m4 donsnt jam nearly as bad as ppl think i know iv been train with it iv got expert marksman with the m16 right out of paris island ... u can take some one down with a 5.56 seen it happen
No, the velocity would deturmine if the projectile will go threw a human torso or not. A 5.56mm is a smaller round but generally does not pass threw the torso. It would also depend on the range. A 7.62mm is a projectile that once enters will spin upside down and reek distruction on your intrails due to its lower velocity (it has more time to spin inside of a target).
they made a new gun that has a piston and more rounds idk name but it doesnt overheat and it doesnt jam most reliabel gun and its light weight so go with that instead of pussy ak-47 or the 45..,and des eagle only recoils if ur weak ass who cant hold a gun
irideyz you're a fucking idiot if you dont think the desert eagle recoils or it only recoils if you're "weak ass pussy." You have clearly not handled many guns in your life so leave the gun talk to us grown ups who no what the fuck they are talking about.
Are you fucking retarded? A pistol cannot penatrate a flak jacket at 400 m. You need a god damn rifle not your "I know one gun so I am cool" Colt M1911A .45 ACP Semi-Auto pistol.
no a rifle, in military you have too be a officer too even get a pistol, if you have a rifle that all you need actully, and yeah maybe you can servive with it only if your close up enough, and for a rifle too servive, you want the most reliable, HK416, AK47, or anything that doesnt jam like hell.
if you hit a target from 400 m with a pistol you are a god. its impossible. its pretty hard to even hit with a rifle, if you dont lay down or have a steady position of your rifle. and I dont mean a sniper rifle.
Are you serious? How old is your father? He had to have been in Nam or somthing sooner to have used that. In Desert Storm/Gulf War the M9 was standard issue. Yah my gramps was in Nam and 2 of my uncles were in the Gulf War, 1 of those went to Iraq/Afghanistan. You guys are to into COD4 you dont know what your talking about.
In the US military the colt 45 is still in use the m9 is standerd issue that dosent mean he didnt bring his own or asked to be serviced with it. a friend of mine brought a thomson m1a1 to iraq with him.
How real do i want it to be? I want it to be as real as arma!You know arma, from the guys that made vbs1 and 2 which the us army (amongst others) use to train with?
ye this is a cool game. I hope they have a bolt action sniper i think they do actually the M107 i think ive seen it in there i hope so or the L96 i like them both
Yeah me too. It's sweet. I hope there nice shotguns too because I'd really like to play as an engineer if it's possible. But picking of targets from over 400 meters is priceless :D
i dont know about the engineer all i know is im gonna make sure my weapon is clean lol all i want if i can carry it is an SMG and a sniper ill be happy then
naa ye ive seen it it does look good but i dont buy games for the PC because i dont have a powerful PC to run them it will just lag on them lol. I tell you what sniper i want the AS50 idk if it will be on OFP2 because its british but its made for US special ops so idk
Of course it'll reach you before you hear the shot, There's a suppressor on the gun for Christ's sake
mehlaz0r 9 months ago 2
5.56mm NATO isn't steel jacketed; it's a copper jacket with a steel core... what fucking idiot made this video? Oh wait-- probably some dumbass who's never seen an actual 5.56 round... if you take a Gerber and pull the bullet out of the casing, you can see the steel core on the ass end of the bullet... and don't worry about sparks igniting the powder; the casing is brass... it's safe; we used to do it in the Army and light the power lol kinda cool...
silenthunder85 10 months ago
LOL the silencer at the end, sure is the worst way to shoot far.
waloumi 10 months ago
i hate how everybody at school love cod and quickscoping and shit.. and they dont like this, they sure are some retarded i hav eas friends
lademelk 1 year ago
to the people that compare military groups for one all of the USA works togethar and if you think know well heh hard to see a marine or any other footman to get any were with out a plane,ship,truck/car,taxpayers ^_^ o and marines were invented by the navy for ship to ship combat.
dasrever 1 year ago
@dasrever no, the marines were not invented by the navy. they were used for the navy to keep the normal sailors in line, and also they specialized in using the blunderbuss from the raftings of the ships to rain down on everyone on the other ship.
kingmigget 10 months ago
SCAR H FTW :D
KoslowHeadhunter 1 year ago
of course it's gonna reach you before you hear the shot... it has a supresser, you'd think they would think of that before making this vid
sgtsn1per 1 year ago
@sgtsn1per and maybe because most rifles travel faster than sound?
imilkdude 1 year ago
O how terrible this game ended up being, the big "Fail of 2009".
holoi145 1 year ago
@holoi145 So, i guess ARMA 2 ended up being a huge fail too right? i mean, it only score 1 point higher on metacritic. And i guess it was such a big fail, that in the first week of release, Dragon Rising sold more then 1.5 million copies world wide... Please, shut the fuck up and let the adults talk about this, thank you :)
bud389 1 year ago
@bud389 It is still getting heavily modded, played, bought, patched and updated with DLC and feature upgrades today. And will be for many years to come. OFP: Fail Rising was relatively dead a few months after release.
SAbre5311 1 year ago
@SAbre5311 tell me, if it's dead then how is it's community still up and running? Ohhh, so i guess Crysis 1 is dead too? And Half-Life? That's right, they aren't... Why don't you take your big, dumb, stupid ass out of this video.
bud389 1 year ago
@SAbre5311 Unfortuantly, Theres still a large base of people doing what they can with DR to imrpove it and make it a great game.
I've stuck with Dragon Rising since day 1. At first, Hated it. Came back to look at some community stuff (see TemplarGFX for a taster) and loved it since.
kllr101 1 year ago
make that 20.
MrAnandrocker 1 year ago
haha German weopan sweet.
mitko321 1 year ago
@mitko321 FN SCAR is from belgium mate, H&K r german
imperialcommisar 1 year ago
Sweet
packstack15 1 year ago
Stay Frostie
TowerLadder17 1 year ago
Dont like that weapon that much...i am at the fuel depot mission and the weapon let me down a few times 8D
KnorpelDelux 2 years ago
the weapon ore maybe the player? : )
thugproofclips 2 years ago
I wasnt playing for 2 weeks and started playing again now i am in mission 11 and i like most weapons. In this case i would say it was the player but thats what i ment with the "8D" after my comment.
KnorpelDelux 2 years ago
@KnorpelDelux hey should iget Operation Flash Point 2, Tekken 6, or X-Men Origins Wolvering? Which one has better graphics and more hours of gameplay? Thanks.
nrothmeier 2 years ago
What kind of question is that? Tekken and OFP2 doesnt have that much together and Xman is a different thing too...its your choise i can just say that OFP2 isnt as good as we all thought.
KnorpelDelux 2 years ago
why dont you just play co op then.
thugproofclips 2 years ago
This game is crap i have compleated it so i know what im talking about.
You have to shoot people like 10 times before they die but you die in 2 shots.
the producers lied about everything and online is horrible,2 maps for 1 gamemode and 2 for another.
Its not realistic and its soooo overated.
distantkilljoy 2 years ago
you should probably learn how to aim then, I took out an AR Gunner at 500 meters with my M16 with one shot
Isosyth 2 years ago
m16 iron sight is annoying tho on some missions lol
Tilyard123456 2 years ago
hey should iget Operation Flash Point 2, Tekken 6, or X-Men Origins Wolvering? Which one has better graphics and more hours of gameplay? Thanks.
nrothmeier 2 years ago
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DO NOT BUY OFP2!!!!
CODEMASTERS IS NOT RELEASING DEDICATED SERVER CODE!!!!
They have completely dropped the ball, the product is dead, they aren't developing it, there is effectively no multi-player.
This comment will be removed when codemasters respond positively.
mryellow123 2 years ago
curt2e i can obvs tell you havnt played this game then, coz, you stand up from about 700m in this game and somone will see you and fuck you over
the amount of times i was just nicly skipping through a field and bam shot in the face dunno where it came from, thats what this games like, not like your shitty cod ass, cod is the rambo shit, run in boom boom dead, this is run in, bang YOUR dead
theholyemo 2 years ago 3
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this came sucks dick and isnt real for shit the only real part is the bullet drop. other than that it takes like 10 shots to be killed and to kill. it feels like your playing a retarded robot in the game. who says you cant be rambo i can go ass fuck a guy in the game before he even knows what to do. CoD is way more realistic for guns and everything than this piece of crap
curt2e 2 years ago
well you can say that COD is realistic in bullet trajectory because most gunfights in COD are Close Quarter not like OFP where you have to look at your scope just to shoot accurately and adjust your scope just to compensate for the distance because bullets can't shoot straight within 200 feet. plus when you get shot yo'll have to call a medic instead of just hiding in COD
762459 2 years ago
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have u played opfp dragon rising in cqb fight you idiot
call of duty mw2 you can a shoot a guy accurately across the entire map
RIEKSONE 2 years ago
the reason, they don't want to fail the COD fanboys, and here's one thing i noticed FPS gamers always compare all other FPS games to COD, here's the difference COD is more like an arcade style FPS while OFP is a simulator. and yes , i have played OFP2 in CQB which is pretty rare, in fact 50 yards is danger close especially if the game still has bugs in it and your team mates are not good shooters.
762459 2 years ago 3
actually they game devolopers took the tactics and sounds from the United States Marine Corps
BOB7268 2 years ago
Wrong they got the sounds themselfs, by doing the audio sets in the Nevada desert watch the Pre-game release videos
johnnyp2234 2 years ago
yeah i love them for doing recordings but i heard the game sux MAJOR balls i dont know exactly why i've heard it's like not realistic at all
kellark12 2 years ago 3
Bah it's because half of the people that bought it were Rambo wanna be's and have been sitting playing COD for to long,
If you are into Real simulators get it, personally i didnt think it was half bad and for the gun sounds, some were realistic and some werent
johnnyp2234 2 years ago 2
u heard right
yandykun 2 years ago
nah its pretty good but i think everyone thinks its bad cause to comand your team is a bitch thats mad hard by the time you give them an order your already shot in the face
LBJohn15 2 years ago
Yeah, I'm with you. I think alot of the slagging off comes from people who just aren't all that good at the game.
dom1940 2 years ago
yea true but i aint gonna lie it is hard tho the only thing i got a problem with is the way to issue comands and how they list out grids instead of saying o take cover behind that tree
LBJohn15 2 years ago
@LBJohn15 I'm used to the navy seals and ghost recon games where it requires you to command your team. Believe it or not, I haven't ever played COD 4, COD5, or COD6.
linkinparklover2143 2 years ago 5
good for you!!
stay real!!
Ibersexualac 2 years ago
@linkinparklover2143 you have been missing alot then!
bazengao 7 months ago
yay a game that's realistic... who cares?? MW2 is definitely gonna be way better.
HiTmAn0104 2 years ago
This game got me like dog's shit and I havent seen it coming.
Betonspike 2 years ago
the british army were involved in the making of this and seeing as there army is one of the most professional in the world i bet this is going to be 10 times more realistic than mw2.
macky111222 2 years ago 16
you cant compare this to MW2 jackass. MW2 is an arcade shooter.
this is a milsim game, like arma 2.
Haydoosturn 2 years ago
now thats true,BUT mw2 is still going 2 be good
gam3masterz 2 years ago
@macky111222 the USMC were i think aswell
imperialcommisar 1 year ago
@macky111222 Since when MW2 has been realistic?????? BF:BC2 is realistic. MW2 is not. For example, you can fire weapons, at full rate rapid fire, and not lose any accuracy. Second of all, if you hip-fire the Intervention, the bullet will go totally to somewhere else, that where it should go. IT IS A SNIPER PEOPLE!
DragonNarutoZGT 1 year ago
@DragonNarutoZGT MW2 and BF have there realism in there own way...You can stand up with a sniper rifle and it not even move..real life the gun would be like MW2...MW2 doesnt have bullet drop...the no scoping in MW2 is un realistic...and when u slap a clip/magazine in like in BF u increase the chance of a jam...
Phynix93 1 year ago
@Phynix93 Mw2 is un-realistic in everyway.
You are talking about BF's reloads? Look at Mw2's. It has got every aspec of every weapon wrong in that game.
thebestpioltever 1 year ago
@thebestpioltever how does it have the reload aspect wrong on every gun?
Phynix93 1 year ago
@thebestpioltever how does it have every aspect of the weapons wrong? (seriously im confused now XD)
Phynix93 1 year ago
@Phynix93 The sniper scopes dont look right. It has no proper ballistics. Its suppressed weapons are silent.
Take a LMG, stick a suppressor on it. And see how loud it sounds.
Its severly un balanced. And the realoding of guns is wrong on each gun.
Sorry, but mw2 is just wrong.
thebestpioltever 1 year ago
@thebestpioltever nah not unless u have a Sub sonic bullet put that in your gun and a suppressor it sounds like your shooting air...The scopes arent wrong either im not sure exactly what your sayin there though and ya it has no proper balistics...and the reloading is right whats wrong about it? in BF when u reload when ur not out of ammo u cock the gun u dont do that in real life and MW2 i dont get what u mean by its wrong runnin out of characters.. =/
Phynix93 1 year ago
@thebestpioltever when u reload in MW2 are u saying taht when they drop the magazine out of the gun with out grabbing it thats not right?
Phynix93 1 year ago
@Phynix93 Im saying the whole relading sequence in Mw2 is wrong on each gun. In at least 1 aspect.
thebestpioltever 1 year ago
@thebestpioltever give me an example...sorry im just not catching on today =/
Phynix93 1 year ago
@Phynix93 Take the M16. Once you empty a clip. He drops the clip and puts in a new one. Hits side of gun and carries on firing.
In real life you would need to press the "ejector switch", pull out a new clip from your belt or vest, place it into the magazine hold. And then pull back the charging handle to chamber the next round. Also, a major problem with COD's, is with STANAG magazines is they are curved, and in COD, they inset the new magazine with the curve, like on Mp5K... which is wrong.
thebestpioltever 1 year ago
@thebestpioltever Ok i thought you'd say that...Im not sure bout the MP5 so ill take your word for it but your wrong about the M16...Its reloading is right the quick release is on the right side of your gun to u can use your trigger finger to drop the mag then theres a bolt release which is what he uses to chamber a round after he unloads them all because of the bolt catch in the gun...And explain the
Mp5k thing again please.
Phynix93 1 year ago
@Phynix93 STANAG Magazines are curved. In many games the animators place it in "with the groove" like try slide it along the curve. This is same with many guns on games.
And about the M16 comment. You really should pull back charging handle to be certian a round is chamberd. But i suppose its mostly used to clear jams etc.
The bolt release isnt best option to put in a game. But fine, still, alot of the guns have badly animated and designed weapon/reload.
thebestpioltever 1 year ago
@thebestpioltever ok i think i get what you mean and now that you've said that about the M16 your definitely right they should have done that with the charging handle...
Phynix93 1 year ago
@thebestpioltever And during this whole conversation im glad you didnt get all mad like alot of people on youtube and start cussin haha
Phynix93 1 year ago
@Phynix93 Aha, yes I try not to go mad and start cursing people, i actually though you were gonna do it too.
Anyway. Most NATO STANAG magazines are curved. And in games i see to often them try to put it in along its curve. Or try slot it in sideways and then push upwards.
When its desinged to only let you go from staight below, and push straight upwards on the magazine. I think companies need to go and actually fire these guns and reload them themsevles before making games...
thebestpioltever 1 year ago
@thebestpioltever like when they reload in MW2 the twist the gun to the side and put the mag in from the side? thats what ya mean right? if so why cant u do this? or why shouldnt u sorry...
Phynix93 1 year ago
@Phynix93 If the magazine is curved. It should go perpendicular to the actual weapon. Where the top of the magazine is lined up with the actual chamber.
In many games the magazine is either to a side, or tilted forward. With real life STANAG magazines or other curved magazines, the clip would get caught and wouldn't actually be able to lock in properly. And a round wont be chambered.
This is mostly true for AR-15 series, and other NATO weaponary.
thebestpioltever 1 year ago
@thebestpioltever ahhh...i think i get it now
Phynix93 1 year ago
@Phynix93 Yes, and thanks for not going mad and cussing at me because I didnt make myslef clear enough at start. :)
thebestpioltever 1 year ago
@thebestpioltever haha np same to u :)
Phynix93 1 year ago
@macky111222 And the most fail comment I have ever seen, this game sucked harder than your sister
54thAggressors 1 year ago
@54thAggressors and you sucked ten times harder on your mums cock you sweaty eyed buck tooth slag
xyoursweet666x 1 year ago
@macky111222 MW2 was only 5% realistic....I mean how many soldiers do you see running around with a extremely heavy Barrett, quick scoping the shit out of terrorists?
Phantom663 1 year ago
@Phantom663 there aint no substitute for the real thing
macky111222 1 year ago
@macky111222 Come on man, you know damn well this isnt going to stop modern warfare...SERIUOSLY!? Come on lol
Ghats212 1 year ago
@macky111222 10 times??? hell no!!! maby 999999999999999999999999 times because mw2 is realistic like a frog that masturbates on the roof....so....
MrVladdavid 1 year ago
@macky111222 mw2 is more arcade like
imilkdude 1 year ago
@macky111222 How about a milion since people teleport 5 meters just by waveing a knife at people.
SnoweyMan111 1 year ago
@macky111222
lol do not compare realism with a COD game to a simulator :P
Go play project reality if you want the real deal ^^
better yet!
Join the USARMY
stay out of marines though, we need more meatshields.
GModPlaya 1 year ago
@GModPlaya Arma 2 is more realistic the Project reality
@macky111222 Go in the Marines. They get the job done
tokorev747777 1 year ago
@macky111222 .... MW2 is not realistic and this is 100 times better any ways but not even close to ARMA good...
jeffhardyfanallway 1 year ago
@macky111222
*cough*arma 2*cough* IS BETTER*COUGH!!!*
wiktor1998 8 months ago
lol i read this guys comment some where and he said 'of course the bullet will reach you before you hear the shot its got a frekin supresser on it' lmao
sgtsn1per 2 years ago 2
wow all of a sudden we have a load of gun experts commenting... i'm sure you were all in the army.... either that or you sit down reading about bullets and bullet penetration all your lives. nice
max0ruk 2 years ago 3
its kind of common knowledge if you know ANYTHING about guns
USMCmohan4 2 years ago
not everyone does tho :)
XiXGuitarDemonXiX 2 years ago
The Thing is people are expecting a very realistic game, because the game is like a better fps but worst version of arma 2, as if this game was attracting mw2 fans then they wouldnt care about realism.
Jameseos 2 years ago
This games is so underrated as mw2 is overrated, i hope people see this in time.
RicardoR5 2 years ago 9
this is a good game to work with each outher cod 456 is 1 man show i cant weight till comes oit online play is gunna be class can u vrs each outher or is it just misions
plym0uth2 2 years ago
what ever cod4 had barley any hype. halo is the game that is over hyped
VZBULLETPROOF 2 years ago 2
@RicardoR5 yup,just because they'r noobs and like campung in a tiny map with a 50cal or an M60 make 9898 kills and think they are good! i also haate the fact that you can go behind a tree or something and heal 100% in 4secs,even after an RPG hit rofl xD this is aamerican movie way xD not war simulation xD
Flashpoint rules!
beeromaniac 9 months ago
Look at these people talking about guns like they worked with one b4
(on a youtube channel!!!)
ninjademon26 2 years ago
Well feel i have to comment on this one.... the Danish army used 7,62 about 10 years ago. It was said that shot at the same place i had some kind of armour piersing effect (well back then) - then the army moved to use 5,56, like a lot of armies use all over the world (Nato)... fighting along side friends and not being able to share ammo isnt good.
But let it be said - no army would use ammo that dosnt kill with the first bullet.
why talk about this in a computer game comment???
shorty198 2 years ago
I thought military ammo was made not to kill as main purpose but to wound an enemy soldier i mean if u wound a soldier he needs medical attention and stuff like that and a dead soldier doesnt.
TheMast3rBF2 2 years ago
a bullets job is 1 thing...to kill...
peace36660 2 years ago
the 5.56 can kill a guy, its a smaller bullet then the ak bullet but its faster and can go farther
TheCrayonMan529 2 years ago
This trailer gives me shivers XD makes you think how terrible guns are and that they can kill you at 1,000 feet in just 0.03 seconds. Amazing :)
hymers01 2 years ago
guns aren't bad, bad people with guns are bad
paintballer70 2 years ago 30
lol
NWA90s 2 years ago
@paintballer70 gun don't kill people..............I kill people.........(back round gunshots)
musicfreak8580 1 year ago
HAHAHAHA my m4 air soft is way better then this naw just fuckign with you nice vid.
superm3gtr 2 years ago
if they scratch the bullet jacket or make a serated round the bullet would just be ridiculously inaccurate
dougster94 2 years ago
It seems strange that the army is not allowed to use hollow tipped bullets or scratch the bullet jacket. All it means is that the person you shoot is more likely to die, which surely is the whole point in a war?
BlackRaptor31 2 years ago
Well technically your saying we should use a bullet for effective at killing targets,yes? If we were to deveop a bullet that has seraded(excuse my spelling) edges If it were to hit a Vital organ such as the liver or heart instead of dieing within 35 seconds or so which in that time the wounded can pick up a weapon and fight.But with a new bullet they'd die instanly.
Clever indeed
zackweasel 2 years ago
JHP (jacketed hollow point) rounds do not have the same effectiveness in armor penetration. The NATO 5.56x45mm ammunition is specifically engineered to penetrate CRISAT armor at 150m and body armor at further ranges. Regardless, the 5.56x45mm in its current version has too high a barrel twist to cause much tissue damage in the short-ranges of urban combat, thus several units have turned to the 6.8mm cartridge. At further ranges, the 5.56 does much greater damage as the bullet destabilizes.
astrayael 2 years ago
the point of it is to take him out of battle not to kill him we r train to take wounding shots if you have a man down then you need the medic to help him out and then you need some grunts or who ever to carry his ass out of the line of fire witch will take out 2 or 3 or how ever manny ppl r helping him at the same time taking one permanently out
USMC 1/5 0311
soulsniper7 2 years ago
seriously ??? 1000 feet in 0.3 sec ??woah !
chewang07 2 years ago
Is that the NATO round that once it enters your body it spins and churns up you insides? I think they brought it in because the bullets the Americans were using in Iraq etc were just ging through suicide bombers and not dropping them.
killgill0 2 years ago
No the US use the same round in iraq. The bullet doesn't have as much kinetic energy.
eviltwin777 2 years ago
It's the same round that's been used since Vietnam. No new 5.56 round has been introduced.
jbatch0311 2 years ago
I think they changed the grain since Vietnam so its got a bit more weight behind it, though i may be wrong. The round tumbles when it hits so leaves an enlarged wound. If you look at the round from an AK the tip is hollow but jacketed so when the bullet hits it creates greater damage.
Its still a serious offence in the British Army at leat to cut notches in the jacket of the bullet to increase its wounding effect!
Shakeyboat1 2 years ago
lol...so your telling me, if i got shot in the ass with a AK47 (7.62mm) round i will have a high chance of surving than gettin shot in the ass with SCAR-L (5.56mmNATO) or vice versa?
CinCBamaboy 2 years ago
Neither that would depend on the veriables like where you are hit! To be honest i don't have a clue. Being shot with either is not advisable, my mate whos a medic was telling me how the rounds shatter bone, its really not nice!
Shakeyboat1 2 years ago
A AK 7.62 has more kenetic energy when it hits you then a 5.56 pkus 7.62 is armor peicring
zackweasel 2 years ago
Indeed, but as sometimes happens the AK round ends up going straight through somebody and providing it doesnt hit any major internal components, the person could well survive getting shot.
A smaller round however would disintigrate on impact causing a larger area of effect and rarely leaving the body on the other side. This means that more kinetic energy is transfered to the person causing more damage than a bullet which just traveled straight on through.
BlackRaptor31 2 years ago
The 5.56x45mm has greater armor penetration capability and a better ballistic coefficient than the 7.62x39mm cartridge used in the Atvomat Kalashnikov Model 47 weapons. The 7.62 round does cause greater tissue damage at short range due to the fact that it is a larger bullet.
Furthermore, both calibers have armor piercing load variants, utilizing steel/tungsten cores.
astrayael 2 years ago
So i have i been chance of living if i get shot in the ass with a SCAR-L than a AK-47...???
CinCBamaboy 2 years ago
lol your ignorant at about the 200m-300m mark the AK looses its kinetic energy pass there 5.56x45 has more
7.62 is big and only flies out at 2000ish FPS it slows fast and falls quick
broth rounds can pierce some armor the only difference is you better have god on your side if you want to hit some one out to 400m with a AK
soulsniper7 2 years ago
Heres where you need to clarify although the ammo type you said i believe is Ak47, your not saying whether u are talking about the innacurate ak47 or the accurate ak74?
iN8TheGr8 2 years ago
i did clarify it lol "mark the AK looses its kinetic "
its a AK
"7.62 is big and only"
shoots a 7.62 it most be a AK47
soulsniper7 2 years ago
Well a scope and someone good you could, but yeah that round is for close combat only and in that sense it is better than the 5.56. Much more power at those ranges.
sexyitalian891 2 years ago
yeah but in a CQB i would prefer a completely different gun if this is only between the AR15 and AK47 then yeah AK for CQB i personaly love the M16 or whatever so i would still use it lol
and all AK and AR fans r on the same side im kinda tired of the arguing... i regret even saying that comment lol we r all pro gun fighting to keep it legal and we should put more time in to that in sted of fighting each other
soulsniper7 2 years ago
the 5.56 you have to put multiple rounds into a person before they go down where the 7.62x9 has way more knock down power and the ak is not made for accuracy its made for mid range firefights. and the m16 and m4 jam like crazy even if they have no carbon build up on the inside where the ak you can throw in sand and mud and they still operate without a hitch I would rather have an ak any day.
fr0gm4n20 2 years ago
have you ever been hit a bullet.. no ur just some ignorant kid arnt ya and wow im not even going to argue with you your statement is so far out there u take what ppl tell you and stretch it pass the orginal statement limits
m16 and m4 donsnt jam nearly as bad as ppl think i know iv been train with it iv got expert marksman with the m16 right out of paris island ... u can take some one down with a 5.56 seen it happen
0311 USMC 1/5
soulsniper7 2 years ago
Ummm you make it sound like the M16 and M4 jam every 20 shots
fugibubi 2 years ago
lol!
sebuk1337 2 years ago
and how old are you
STRIKERBOY101 2 years ago
No, the velocity would deturmine if the projectile will go threw a human torso or not. A 5.56mm is a smaller round but generally does not pass threw the torso. It would also depend on the range. A 7.62mm is a projectile that once enters will spin upside down and reek distruction on your intrails due to its lower velocity (it has more time to spin inside of a target).
Surefire3333 2 years ago
Hey! That gun has a suppressor! You'll never hear the shot!
CANADIANSILV3R 2 years ago 3
hes talking about the round, weapon has nothing to do with it
DiogoE6 2 years ago 2
it says it will reach you befor you hear the shot... the problem is you'll still be alive to hear it!!!!! THANKS 5.56!:p
bagman121 2 years ago 2
ive shot small calibre pistols and they pack a bit of a punch
ive seen people shooting desert eagles and the .50 packs a lot o punch
pigswillfly123 2 years ago 3
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they made a new gun that has a piston and more rounds idk name but it doesnt overheat and it doesnt jam most reliabel gun and its light weight so go with that instead of pussy ak-47 or the 45..,and des eagle only recoils if ur weak ass who cant hold a gun
12irideyz85 2 years ago
irideyz you're a fucking idiot if you dont think the desert eagle recoils or it only recoils if you're "weak ass pussy." You have clearly not handled many guns in your life so leave the gun talk to us grown ups who no what the fuck they are talking about.
rainbowarrio 2 years ago 2
a colt 45 is all you need to survive
ComaradComisar 2 years ago
Are you fucking retarded? A pistol cannot penatrate a flak jacket at 400 m. You need a god damn rifle not your "I know one gun so I am cool" Colt M1911A .45 ACP Semi-Auto pistol.
HitmanOnAcid1 2 years ago 5
again.. a colt 45 is all you need to survive , and a knife maybe..
ComaradComisar 2 years ago
colt 45, works every time
VisualSlug 2 years ago
yes it does ...... its one of the most reliable guns
ComaradComisar 2 years ago
no a rifle, in military you have too be a officer too even get a pistol, if you have a rifle that all you need actully, and yeah maybe you can servive with it only if your close up enough, and for a rifle too servive, you want the most reliable, HK416, AK47, or anything that doesnt jam like hell.
theguitarhero3 2 years ago
If your a Marine you get a pistol at private
Robert941 2 years ago
if you hit a target from 400 m with a pistol you are a god. its impossible. its pretty hard to even hit with a rifle, if you dont lay down or have a steady position of your rifle. and I dont mean a sniper rifle.
LoelDittFisk 2 years ago
Tell me when you leave 1942 and learn somthing about guns.
Colt 45 - lots of kick , heavy as hell and very unaccurate
Stick with a 226 or a 9
Robert941 2 years ago 2
hahaha ... my father is in the army ...and the colt45 saved his life just too many times .... so shut the fuck up..
ComaradComisar 2 years ago
Are you serious? How old is your father? He had to have been in Nam or somthing sooner to have used that. In Desert Storm/Gulf War the M9 was standard issue. Yah my gramps was in Nam and 2 of my uncles were in the Gulf War, 1 of those went to Iraq/Afghanistan. You guys are to into COD4 you dont know what your talking about.
Robert941 2 years ago
stop talking bull shit .... who said im from US ....god...
ComaradComisar 2 years ago
In the US military the colt 45 is still in use the m9 is standerd issue that dosent mean he didnt bring his own or asked to be serviced with it. a friend of mine brought a thomson m1a1 to iraq with him.
bagman121 2 years ago
that would be considered as 'classic'. there's an old saying: classics are timeless :D
ChiaKaCheng 2 years ago
thats true, P226 all the way. wish we were able to have a USP....
theguitarhero3 2 years ago
Does anyone know the offical release date for ps3?
djbigbenny 2 years ago
9-2-09 for all consoles usa
HitmanOnAcid1 2 years ago
How real do i want it to be? I want it to be as real as arma!You know arma, from the guys that made vbs1 and 2 which the us army (amongst others) use to train with?
Nuff said!
RhODomhnaill 2 years ago
lol just imagine a silenced 60.cal desert eagle
break your wrist even if the recoil is reduced xD
chkienfoot3 2 years ago
first of I think you mean 50. cal
And second there has never been made a silencer for any 50. calibre weapon.
jawehawk 2 years ago
the m82 has a silencer but its mostly used to hide the flash
ownedinthe2260 2 years ago
Thats called a flashhider(that big arrowhead shape at the end of the M82)
Im interested in this game, But I want to see more weapons first.
thenineangelsinz3 2 years ago
Desert Eagle have .50 cal,regular army dont use that weapon is too big,pistol is secondary weapon not first..
XerxesPL 2 years ago
agreed, a desert eagle has too much recoil, not a favorite pistol of mine, i like a colt 45 or a usp 45.
theguitarhero3 2 years ago
better is if that pistols have silencer ;)
XerxesPL 2 years ago
well hell yeah! in field who wants to be the one who gets knoticed first!
theguitarhero3 2 years ago
i cant wait seriously cant wait im gonna be sniper in this, i think it will be awesome 5* and SUB
000BANNER000 2 years ago
It's gonna be hard. This is not COD. This will be the most realistic shooter ever along with ArmA. But yeah I will be a sniper too ^_^
nightmareguy 2 years ago
ye this is a cool game. I hope they have a bolt action sniper i think they do actually the M107 i think ive seen it in there i hope so or the L96 i like them both
000BANNER000 2 years ago
What I'd like to see in a game is a goddamn W2000 Limited Edition Sniper Rifle. Grrr....
nightmareguy 2 years ago
ye thats tha sniper from hitman aint it ye thats beast
000BANNER000 2 years ago
yup it is.
nightmareguy 2 years ago
i kinda love the PSG1 its not bolt action like but it looks cool im sure you can change it to bolt action anyway
000BANNER000 2 years ago
Yeah me too. It's sweet. I hope there nice shotguns too because I'd really like to play as an engineer if it's possible. But picking of targets from over 400 meters is priceless :D
nightmareguy 2 years ago
i dont know about the engineer all i know is im gonna make sure my weapon is clean lol all i want if i can carry it is an SMG and a sniper ill be happy then
000BANNER000 2 years ago
I'd prefer a silenced M1911 :D
nightmareguy 2 years ago
ye that is a nice pistol umm for pistol ummm i think i just have the M9 i dont know ill see wa they got on there USP is pretty cool weapon idk
000BANNER000 2 years ago
Are you gonna get ArmA 2? It will be good too.
nightmareguy 2 years ago
naa ye ive seen it it does look good but i dont buy games for the PC because i dont have a powerful PC to run them it will just lag on them lol. I tell you what sniper i want the AS50 idk if it will be on OFP2 because its british but its made for US special ops so idk
000BANNER000 2 years ago
So you won't buy OFP neither ArmA? Anyways. I will add you as a friend and subscribe :D
nightmareguy 2 years ago