cool video editing.... But you are making a mountain out of nothing. I realize the points you make but those are presuppositions that are wrong. READ the NT.
bigboyvernon: the same law applied in christian and jewish books, so please read it and see your self. about the 50 reference can you show us THE 50 reference!!
Doesn't the Muslim holy book, the Koran, sanction the killing of those who convert from Islam to other religions, like Christianity. I thought there was like over 50 references in the Koran to killing the infidels (i.e. Christians and Jews).
BarakhAllahFiKum bro, I understand you were upset and khair but I dont like the way that Christians like MBI3030 use these events to try and claim Islam caused this event.
Hence I showed him where he also has acted likewise and this should reflect upon his religion also.
The issue wasnt about evil in the heart occasionally but whether this was a reflection of the religion.
If MBI3030 feels that it is a reflection of the religion (as I understood) then his own moment of "evil in his heart" should be seen by him to reflect on his religion also.
If these moments dont reflect on the persons religion then I have no issue.
I think Christianity has been refuted well on Youtube. I don't know why people bother to debate the religion anymore to be honest. It appears some refuse to learn their lesson.
I enjoy all your vids, especially the one on the Sana'a Valley Qur'an Manuscripts. That was a good one.
Sister, apologies if it appears to you that I have not learnt my lesson.
I like to talk about Islam to people of other religions, I do this primarily for me. It is a duty incumbent upon all Muslims and they should fulfill their duty to God. It is God that guides.
I dont think we as Muslims should be completely apologetic or reluctant to express ourselves, this is buying into whatever is said about us or for us.
I dont remember doing a Sanna'a Manuscripts video.
No brother, I wasn't talking about you! I meant some Christians don't learn their lesson. Sorry if it sounded wrong lol. You're right, it's every Muslims duty to do dawah etc. Sorry again!
Excellent video brother, Christianity has been long refuted, u have the ability to explain it extremely well. I would suggest u also focus on refuting Athiests who seem to have lost their minds completely. May Allaah reward you for guiding mankind to the Straight Path.
Contradiction is a noun that I used in the following manner: "a statement or proposition that contradicts or denies ...itself and is logically incongruous."
For example: The Eternal Ever-Living God was born and died, God is One and Three, God prayed to God to be saved from the Cross (in the Garden of Gethsemane), If you pay for something its forgiven (i.e Atonement = Forgiveness)... to name a few.
I get disrespected all the time also... no good deed goes unpunished... so they say.
I have never taken any courses in logic, but you dont always need to have taken a course to see when something contradicts itself.
You say that I am wrong as I did not give you a definition according to logic. You say that you werent after a defnition and that I used the word itself in the definition. I did not try and give a definition but the sense in which I used the word."
Buts thats not really relevant to me anyway, unless you want to use this to prevent further discussion?
I understand your point but I dont see how I am redefining what you mean. If you have particular terms then use them and explain them (if they need explaining).
Then also explain why is it necessary to devise terms to describe God?
What is the role of revelation if not to explicitly lay this out?
here you might be getting some where as to understanding why it is IMPORTANT to use words correctly. Far to many toss words around but words have meaning.
You were wrong, at this point you starting using irrational standards as your basis for logic. He you want to use logic, that is fine by me, but use it correctly.
I have no formal IT background and this is the first time I really done this.
There are many websites that will download youtube videos for you and save them on your hard drive. You can then put them into Windows Movie Maker or Mac iMovie (which are basic video editing programmes).
More importantly, sometimes we are hold others to account (Judge) for behaviour that we also exhibit, its not good to do that, but then we are all Human.
This is the closest some have come but for example if each person is "fully God" then each person is also a Trinity, which leads to confusion, for me at least.
As far as the "best verses" to support the idea, I have encountered many that are used and none have been explicit.
If all of that means I am attacking a strawman then please tell me what is the position you hold valid so we can discuss.
cool video editing.... But you are making a mountain out of nothing. I realize the points you make but those are presuppositions that are wrong. READ the NT.
MBI3030 1 year ago
well said brother Mas'Allah...Thanks for the vid.
TheMuslimheart 2 years ago 2
bigboyvernon: the same law applied in christian and jewish books, so please read it and see your self. about the 50 reference can you show us THE 50 reference!!
TheMuslimheart 2 years ago
Doesn't the Muslim holy book, the Koran, sanction the killing of those who convert from Islam to other religions, like Christianity. I thought there was like over 50 references in the Koran to killing the infidels (i.e. Christians and Jews).
bigboyvernon 2 years ago
mashallah good vid
adamz101 2 years ago
jesus! Go shave your ugly beard!
Typon 2 years ago
I am not Jesus (pbuh) and why do you want him to shave his beard?
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
Great video bro Fot, good to see you back (after all these years :P)
ALRisala 2 years ago
Fotty!! I knew this day would come!
I knew it! :P Salaam.
uk7score 2 years ago
Captain Haddock to the rescue. Salaam, fot
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
I find that often also.
Salaam, fot
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
BarakhAllahFiKum bro, I understand you were upset and khair but I dont like the way that Christians like MBI3030 use these events to try and claim Islam caused this event.
Hence I showed him where he also has acted likewise and this should reflect upon his religion also.
Salaam, fot
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
MashaAllah excellent video bro. Very well done! JazakAllah khair
paperduck20 2 years ago 2
MashaAllah Brother I admire your method. It was very delicate to watch. May Allah help you in all good you do.
GaziMuhammed1 2 years ago
Ameen. JazakhumAllahKhairun. Salaam, fot
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
Actually not, thefotF, he just said that that guy has evil in his heart.
Guess what, at some time, we all do. I admit it, do you?
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
The issue wasnt about evil in the heart occasionally but whether this was a reflection of the religion.
If MBI3030 feels that it is a reflection of the religion (as I understood) then his own moment of "evil in his heart" should be seen by him to reflect on his religion also.
If these moments dont reflect on the persons religion then I have no issue.
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
I am sorry, I am not understanding your reply here, so I will just leave it.
nighthawk7878 2 years ago
As you wish.
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
I think theres too much "love" in him that he's gone cuckoo
journeytojannah 2 years ago
I think Christianity has been refuted well on Youtube. I don't know why people bother to debate the religion anymore to be honest. It appears some refuse to learn their lesson.
I enjoy all your vids, especially the one on the Sana'a Valley Qur'an Manuscripts. That was a good one.
Peace from Britain
MuslimaticMuslimah 2 years ago
Sister, apologies if it appears to you that I have not learnt my lesson.
I like to talk about Islam to people of other religions, I do this primarily for me. It is a duty incumbent upon all Muslims and they should fulfill their duty to God. It is God that guides.
I dont think we as Muslims should be completely apologetic or reluctant to express ourselves, this is buying into whatever is said about us or for us.
I dont remember doing a Sanna'a Manuscripts video.
Salaam from Britain
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
No brother, I wasn't talking about you! I meant some Christians don't learn their lesson. Sorry if it sounded wrong lol. You're right, it's every Muslims duty to do dawah etc. Sorry again!
MuslimaticMuslimah 2 years ago
No worries, my apologies Ukhti, it was ambiguous who the "they" in your comment was referring to.
Thanks for clarifying.
Salaam, fot
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
Barak'Allahu feek akhi.
TheEndGameBoY 2 years ago
Wa Iyakum Akhi. Salaam, fot
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
Salam brother
Fantastic video. I look forward to watching more :)
TheIslamicVanguard 2 years ago
JazakhumAllahKhairun Bro. Salaam, fot
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
wait what your back NICE TO SEE YOU BRO :)
xXxAxBxZxXx 2 years ago
Excellent video brother, Christianity has been long refuted, u have the ability to explain it extremely well. I would suggest u also focus on refuting Athiests who seem to have lost their minds completely. May Allaah reward you for guiding mankind to the Straight Path.
canadafast 2 years ago
JazakhumAllahKhairun for your comment and advice.
It is upon a duty upon us to give the Message and it is Allah that Guides.
Salaam, fot
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
Cool Dr. Fot :D
welcome back :D
RzaaV2 2 years ago
JazakhumAllahKhairun Rzaa Bro. Salaam, fot
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
FOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTT!!!!!!!
BonsaiSky 2 years ago
Bonsaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AsSalaamoAlaykum Akhi. I hope all is well with you and your family. Ameen.
Salaam, fot
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
yay fot is back! good job akh:) i love how youre always so calm
-Leyla
LekiiLekii 2 years ago
JazakhumAllahKhairun Ukhti Leyla. Salaam, fot
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
Salam brother, you are back. Now all we need is Snow3585 and it is 2007 all over again :)
5 stars video.
MoslimKid2009 2 years ago
WaAlaykumAsSalaam. Find Snow3585 and 2007 here we come. Salaam, fot
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
Excellent video bro, jazak Allah khir.
muslim610 2 years ago
M610 Bro, BarakhAllahfiKum Akhi. Salaam, fot
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
please expalin what a contradiction is?
I get disrespected ALL THE TIME...
MBI3030 2 years ago
Contradiction is a noun that I used in the following manner: "a statement or proposition that contradicts or denies ...itself and is logically incongruous."
For example: The Eternal Ever-Living God was born and died, God is One and Three, God prayed to God to be saved from the Cross (in the Garden of Gethsemane), If you pay for something its forgiven (i.e Atonement = Forgiveness)... to name a few.
I get disrespected all the time also... no good deed goes unpunished... so they say.
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
well maybe you never took a corse in Logic before. A contradiction means
A can not be non-A at the same time and in the same sense.
you are wrong.
A: The Living God is all powerfull and can do whatever He pleases
B: God can do anything within His nature
Therefore, if God choose to be born, He has the right to do whatever He pleases.
another problem, you used the same word in the defination. I did not ask for a defination. I wanted to know if you knew what it is.
MBI3030 2 years ago
I have never taken any courses in logic, but you dont always need to have taken a course to see when something contradicts itself.
You say that I am wrong as I did not give you a definition according to logic. You say that you werent after a defnition and that I used the word itself in the definition. I did not try and give a definition but the sense in which I used the word."
Buts thats not really relevant to me anyway, unless you want to use this to prevent further discussion?
continued...
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
More importantly you lay the basis for your position saying:
"A: The Living God is all powerful and can do whatever He pleases"
Can God cease to be?, Can God make Himself not-God? Can God commit sin/lie?, Can God send you to a place where He has no power? etc etc.
"B: God can do anything within His nature
Therefore, if God choose to be born, He has the right to do whatever He pleases."
Which seems to be the same as point A and begs the question, why "choose" (or need) to be born?
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
you are missing the point. WE both have different persupposition about who God is in His nature and ESSENCE.
understand what we say and mean and then maybe begin discussing with me. It is clear you are REDIFINING what we mean. Allow use to use our terms.
what if I said Allah is 10 people in one or that man is Allah. Consider this A.l.l.a.h
arm, leg, leg, arm, head. See man.
I do not agree with this, but you will say no that is wrong by defination.
My point exactlt.
MBI3030 2 years ago
I understand your point but I dont see how I am redefining what you mean. If you have particular terms then use them and explain them (if they need explaining).
Then also explain why is it necessary to devise terms to describe God?
What is the role of revelation if not to explicitly lay this out?
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
here you might be getting some where as to understanding why it is IMPORTANT to use words correctly. Far to many toss words around but words have meaning.
You were wrong, at this point you starting using irrational standards as your basis for logic. He you want to use logic, that is fine by me, but use it correctly.
MBI3030 2 years ago
I agree, of course, words have meaning, like the words One, Three and Indivisible:
Three*Y, all Indivisible in One*X. OK
1*Y dies and 2*Y remain? Indivisible can no longer apply unless you say the term "indivisible" means something else.
Before you say "strawman" (thats not my intention) give me your explanation which includes an explanation of your "terms" also.
I dont want this conversation to be stopped by "you dont get it" because thats the starting point.
I dont get it, please explain.
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
lol, thanks for cutting my videos. Really good job becuase I do not know how to video edit. Great job. TRUTH hurts...
MBI3030 2 years ago
I have no formal IT background and this is the first time I really done this.
There are many websites that will download youtube videos for you and save them on your hard drive. You can then put them into Windows Movie Maker or Mac iMovie (which are basic video editing programmes).
More importantly, sometimes we are hold others to account (Judge) for behaviour that we also exhibit, its not good to do that, but then we are all Human.
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
part 2 of my reply below:
death does not mean non-existence. Why do muslims become a material naturalist when talking about this?
Can you define what Christians mean by the Trinity and the BEST verses in the Bible to support it.
because it sounds like you are attacking a straw man.
MBI3030 2 years ago
Interestingly you say "death does not mean non-existence", and then accuse Muslims of becoming "material naturalists".
The issue is simpler than that:
Death = Not Alive (nothing to do with non-existence).
If God The Ever-Living died = God The Ever-living was Not Alive.
That to me (not having done a course on formal logic) is a contradiction.
As far as defining the Trinity goes, I have yet to meet a Christian that could, I can say the words some use but they start to loose meaning for me...
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
continued...
i. God is three persons.
ii. Each person is fully God.
iii. There is one God.
This is the closest some have come but for example if each person is "fully God" then each person is also a Trinity, which leads to confusion, for me at least.
As far as the "best verses" to support the idea, I have encountered many that are used and none have been explicit.
If all of that means I am attacking a strawman then please tell me what is the position you hold valid so we can discuss.
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
actually many send me PM's that are former muslims...
MBI3030 2 years ago
maybe you did not hear all my message becuase I said not ALL muslims act this. The spirit behind Islam is not that of Christ...
MBI3030 2 years ago
BarakAllahu feek, great video brother.
SFAproductions 2 years ago 2
Wa Iyakum. Salaam, fot
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
FOT!
Jazak Allah khair :D
BeMyBro 2 years ago 4
BarakhAllahFiKum Akhi. Salaam, fot
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
Excellent vid!
canadafast 2 years ago 2
May God reward you with Good, InshaAllah. Salaam, fot
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
Good to see fot. Excellent rebuttal.
Bashir38 2 years ago 2
BarakhAllahFiKum. Salaam, fot
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
wb bro. good video.
libanlibanliban 2 years ago 2
JazakhumAllahKhairun Akhi. Salaam, fot
thefotfoundation 2 years ago
FOT is BACK
xiaahmad 2 years ago 3
omg! Salaam, fot
thefotfoundation 2 years ago