any semi-intelligent goon knows that karl rove is an amazing douche bag. still, cosby and his ilk notwithstanding, there is zero credibility to any argument that blacks, as a group, are anything but an enormous drain on american society. yeah, i know, it's all because centuries ago, africans, who lived like marginally advanced apes in their homeland (and haven't advanced since, obviously) were enslaved here, as everywhere, including by their own kind. yeah, that's the problem.
The Republican Party is a fascist party. Fascism is an italian, not american, ideology that wants ideological control, not economic, and put all resources on the army. Fascists, also, hate government critics. Shortly: fascists wants everybody to be like zombies.
But on nov 4 Barack Obama stopped the spread of fascist dictatorships around the world that would have destroyed freedom of thought and expression. It's really scary, but now the world feels safer.
Oh you mean like the Republicans wanting to put a Gay Marriage Amendment to the Constitution. I love Republicans with their vapid talking points. No wonder you lost and will continue to lose. One moment Obama is a socialist during the campaign, now Repugnants are saying it's bc he ran on conservative values. The GOP has its talking pts. all mixed up.
Liberals have many, MANY more talking points then we do.
I have a totally different take on Gay Marriage so you can just take what you just said and shove it up your ass. ;)
We did not loose anything. We just did not run a strong campaign like Obama did. Also our guy was not that great at public speaking. Most of the people that voted for Obama were just people that were warped by his speeches and his color.
He did not run on conservative values and I have yet to hear anyone from my side of the fence say that. I have no idea where you are getting your crap.
He ran on change. That is all he did. Not only that but he is a very beautiful man. If I did not have a brain I would have voted for him as well. God bless you sir. :)
Ladydumbfuck, if you actually look there ARE TONS of Republican talking heads that have said that he ran on conservative values (giving 95% of people a tax cut". You not only don't have any sense or any neurons for that matter. Not surprising as most conservatives have neither.
Well according to you I am dumb so why don't you go and find me those links where my people said that. Stop being a lazy, democratic, freeloader and get off your ass and do me a service and try to convert me to the crap side. :)
He did not run on conservative values because conservatives would give a tax cut to the rich as well and Obama was not all about giving the rich a break. He wanted to tax them more remember? If you made 150 grand a year you were getting taxed.
Most liberals do not even think for themselves. You get all your ideas from Keith Olbermen and MSNBC you don't even bother to take in both sides. Not only are liberals closed minded as hell but they are mindless walking talking zombies. Go line up for your welfare check buddy you are gonna need it. FEED THE CHILDREN!!!!!
And you're calling others close-minded? Please, conservatives do the same thing. Substitute Sean Hannity for Olbermann, FOX for MSNBC, welfare check for a rifle to make your cock bigger, and you've got modern day "conservatism."
The right to bear arms in is the constitution as welfare is not. So I don't see how those two relate. I can understand what you are saying. BUT, I am a conservative though I am not submitted to just conservative media like a liberal would be to liberal media. Not only that but I do look at all sides as I used to be a liberal. I can not speak for all people. But if you have ever listened to Sean Hannity you would think different.
Not only that they only thing conservatives would be closed minded on is gay marriage and that is not even close minded because they are allowed to believe what they want aren't they? Just like a liberal hates god, and religion with all their heart and will stop at nothing to get rid of it.
That doesn't really make sense. I listen to Sean Hannity all the time, how do you think I became a liberal? I listened to so much conservative talk radio, and still didn't agree with anything they said. Since when do all liberals hate god and religion?
My ither point concerns what you said about gay marriage. You absolutley have the right to believe anything you want, but you DO NOT have the right to impose your belief on others. That's where conservative logic always falls short.
So you agree with everyone being lazy and getting a handout? Not only that but you are in favor of the government controlling everything?
What is wrong with Sean Hannity? To be honest I could understand if you said Rush because Rush is a bit extreme but not Hannity.
Liberals have made it their mission to rag on Christianty every chance they get. In this country if you are jewish or any other kind of religion it is okay but being a Christian isn't because you are automatically enforcing
your beliefs onto other people. (sorry about spelling I forgot to check it along with youtubes character limit)
Well that statement is flawed all in itself. Say I was one of those conservatives you are talking about. You have no right sir to impose gay marriage on me. If I don't believe in it I don't believe in it. Get what I am saying?
Also, imposing gay marriage on you would be forcing you to marry a person of the same sex. Neo-cons seem to believe they have a right not to be offended. If they don't like gay marriage, than they can say so, but they can't make laws about!
No I agree they can't but prop eight was there to be voted on. Not just to be enforced. If they (dumb ass politicians) are going to make polls about it then people that want gay marriage need to get off their asses and go vote NO on prop eight. Get what I mean? This wasn't a stripping of any rights or anything like that it was a simple VOTE. The dumbass people of CA spoken. Though if I was president there would be no voting and there would be no religion in my house. That is just me. I am a con.
I take offense to your statement about atheist marriages not being real marriages.
I am agnostic, and am currently engaged to a Christian woman who has agreed that when we do get married, it will not be in a church. Will that make our future children bastards?
Don't take offense to everything. Jesus Christ! No your kids won't be bastards they would only be bastards if you raised them to be OR you had them out of wedlock. Jeeze give me a break. I was just trying to make a point that if GAYS can not get married then ATHEIST should not be able to because MARRIAGE is a RELIGIOUS thing according to politicians and other people. Atheists do not believe in religion remember?
You believe in gay marriage and I don't so you have the right to impose that one me? Since when? You said it yourself "but you DO NOT have the right to impose your belief on others".
(I am not against gay marriage btw just using it as an example)
I have always said that the perfect conservative would be either agnostic or atheists. Because then liberals could not use religion as a point against us.
You don't believe that Proposition 8 was imposing??? First of all, no church should ever be involved in American government, unless they agree to give up their right not to be taxed. But that aside, all arguments against gay marriage center around religion. Last time I checked, we were supposed to not let religion impact our government. Now, let me clarify, when I said conservatives before, I meant neo-cons. There are conservatives I like such as Ron Paul.
Prop eight was just letting the PEOPLE decide whether or not they wanted it. Personally I think we should not be voting on it, it should just be there and people get over it. But that is the road they took it down and THE PEOPLE OF CA SPOKE! It wasn't a conspiracy. It was a vote for it or against it and CA voted against. It was not imposing anyone because people had a choice. Not saying I agree but whatever. They spoke.
Yes, the people of CA did speak, but my argument isn't against the outcome of the vote, it is against the reason for the vote in the first place. Like it or not, gay rights ARE civil rights. Now I understand some people don't believe that, but I fail to understand why they care. Why does it concern them what grown people do in their spare time? It shouldn't have been up for a vote in the first place.
I take offense to your statement about atheist marriages not being real marriages.
Yes because "marriage" is a religious thing. I am all about civil unions for both gay couples and atheists straight couples (they don't believe in god or religion so hey stay the hell out of my cermony). But like I said I think state and church need to be separate. Like if that church wants to marry a gay couple then let them if they don't that couple should not get mad because it is against their doctrine anyways. You can't impose gay marriage on religions.
Well duh, it ain't. and in NO WAY is anybody asking for gay marriage to be embedded in ANY christian church or whatever. There's no official religion in the states or cali, so how could they ask that?
Same Sex Marriage proponents ask for EQUAL RIGHTS.
It doesn't always have to be about religion though. Some people might argue that it is unnatural or that untraditional. So I mean it is not always about religion.
Of course it's not traditional! But why does that matter??? If people don't like gay marriage, then that's fine, but don't pass laws based on opinions. That's silly and harmful and just plain stupid. For example, I hate organized religion, but I would never support a law banning religion. People have to learn to separate their opinions from what is best for the country.
I agree but obviously they are not. So we just have to make due with what we have.
When there is a ridiculous poll our there or law out there that is getting ready to be voted on GO OUT AND VOTE. That is the only way you can fight it. Don't attack churches though....that is stupid there too.
Obama is entertainment fool. People don't even know what Obama stands for. They rally behind him mindlessly not knowing what his history or positions are. You are salivating over him like he was a movie star. Zombies!
When Rove said that about the Cosby Show, I thought, "he said that out loud???!! Not that I'm knockin the Cosby Show but it's TV! What are the Evans from Good Times, the fricken Senate?? What is wrong with these people??" Ugh. Still, the cost of a gallon of gas under Bush in 07 and 08, $5.00. The cost of the housing market under a failed economy, unthinkable. The look on the Fox News executives when it was announced that Obama won... PRICELESS
seriously..of all the prominent black figures in american history this is who you come up with on this HISTORYCAL TIME!?..BILL COSBY?...A COMEDIAN!?????
im not knocking on bill cosby, hes an exeptional human being..but seriously...the first black president to a comedian???!
Obama the first ~Half Caste~ biracial president not black.
OBAMAisHalfCaste 1 year ago
He meant Bill Cosby was a public figure that white people could look up to "first black family", not black president.
lucypunch 1 year ago
Wow, Karl Rove that was a surprisingly insightful and balanced comment. It's not often that I agree with him either.
txff2002 1 year ago
yeah let my papey bill cosby be president on da united states and let puerto rico and liberia take heed in 2 dat
Juwreh 2 years ago
any semi-intelligent goon knows that karl rove is an amazing douche bag. still, cosby and his ilk notwithstanding, there is zero credibility to any argument that blacks, as a group, are anything but an enormous drain on american society. yeah, i know, it's all because centuries ago, africans, who lived like marginally advanced apes in their homeland (and haven't advanced since, obviously) were enslaved here, as everywhere, including by their own kind. yeah, that's the problem.
MaximusRelaximus 2 years ago
The Republican Party is a fascist party. Fascism is an italian, not american, ideology that wants ideological control, not economic, and put all resources on the army. Fascists, also, hate government critics. Shortly: fascists wants everybody to be like zombies.
But on nov 4 Barack Obama stopped the spread of fascist dictatorships around the world that would have destroyed freedom of thought and expression. It's really scary, but now the world feels safer.
548768 3 years ago
Funny.
Democrats want to change the constitution around and everything else and yet you are calling the Republicans fascist. -_-
The democrats already control forty percent of america with welfare checks.
Demos are the party of control.
Ladyluck8987 3 years ago
Oh you mean like the Republicans wanting to put a Gay Marriage Amendment to the Constitution. I love Republicans with their vapid talking points. No wonder you lost and will continue to lose. One moment Obama is a socialist during the campaign, now Repugnants are saying it's bc he ran on conservative values. The GOP has its talking pts. all mixed up.
rakrobn 3 years ago
Liberals have many, MANY more talking points then we do.
I have a totally different take on Gay Marriage so you can just take what you just said and shove it up your ass. ;)
We did not loose anything. We just did not run a strong campaign like Obama did. Also our guy was not that great at public speaking. Most of the people that voted for Obama were just people that were warped by his speeches and his color.
Ladyluck8987 3 years ago
He did not run on conservative values and I have yet to hear anyone from my side of the fence say that. I have no idea where you are getting your crap.
He ran on change. That is all he did. Not only that but he is a very beautiful man. If I did not have a brain I would have voted for him as well. God bless you sir. :)
Ladyluck8987 3 years ago
Ladydumbfuck, if you actually look there ARE TONS of Republican talking heads that have said that he ran on conservative values (giving 95% of people a tax cut". You not only don't have any sense or any neurons for that matter. Not surprising as most conservatives have neither.
rakrobn 3 years ago
Well according to you I am dumb so why don't you go and find me those links where my people said that. Stop being a lazy, democratic, freeloader and get off your ass and do me a service and try to convert me to the crap side. :)
He did not run on conservative values because conservatives would give a tax cut to the rich as well and Obama was not all about giving the rich a break. He wanted to tax them more remember? If you made 150 grand a year you were getting taxed.
Ladyluck8987 3 years ago
Most liberals do not even think for themselves. You get all your ideas from Keith Olbermen and MSNBC you don't even bother to take in both sides. Not only are liberals closed minded as hell but they are mindless walking talking zombies. Go line up for your welfare check buddy you are gonna need it. FEED THE CHILDREN!!!!!
Ladyluck8987 3 years ago
And you're calling others close-minded? Please, conservatives do the same thing. Substitute Sean Hannity for Olbermann, FOX for MSNBC, welfare check for a rifle to make your cock bigger, and you've got modern day "conservatism."
badtown88 3 years ago
The right to bear arms in is the constitution as welfare is not. So I don't see how those two relate. I can understand what you are saying. BUT, I am a conservative though I am not submitted to just conservative media like a liberal would be to liberal media. Not only that but I do look at all sides as I used to be a liberal. I can not speak for all people. But if you have ever listened to Sean Hannity you would think different.
Ladyluck8987 3 years ago
Not only that they only thing conservatives would be closed minded on is gay marriage and that is not even close minded because they are allowed to believe what they want aren't they? Just like a liberal hates god, and religion with all their heart and will stop at nothing to get rid of it.
Ladyluck8987 3 years ago
That doesn't really make sense. I listen to Sean Hannity all the time, how do you think I became a liberal? I listened to so much conservative talk radio, and still didn't agree with anything they said. Since when do all liberals hate god and religion?
My ither point concerns what you said about gay marriage. You absolutley have the right to believe anything you want, but you DO NOT have the right to impose your belief on others. That's where conservative logic always falls short.
badtown88 3 years ago
So you agree with everyone being lazy and getting a handout? Not only that but you are in favor of the government controlling everything?
What is wrong with Sean Hannity? To be honest I could understand if you said Rush because Rush is a bit extreme but not Hannity.
Liberals have made it their mission to rag on Christianty every chance they get. In this country if you are jewish or any other kind of religion it is okay but being a Christian isn't because you are automatically enforcing
Ladyluck8987 3 years ago
your beliefs onto other people. (sorry about spelling I forgot to check it along with youtubes character limit)
Well that statement is flawed all in itself. Say I was one of those conservatives you are talking about. You have no right sir to impose gay marriage on me. If I don't believe in it I don't believe in it. Get what I am saying?
Ladyluck8987 3 years ago
Also, imposing gay marriage on you would be forcing you to marry a person of the same sex. Neo-cons seem to believe they have a right not to be offended. If they don't like gay marriage, than they can say so, but they can't make laws about!
badtown88 3 years ago
No I agree they can't but prop eight was there to be voted on. Not just to be enforced. If they (dumb ass politicians) are going to make polls about it then people that want gay marriage need to get off their asses and go vote NO on prop eight. Get what I mean? This wasn't a stripping of any rights or anything like that it was a simple VOTE. The dumbass people of CA spoken. Though if I was president there would be no voting and there would be no religion in my house. That is just me. I am a con.
Ladyluck8987 3 years ago
I take offense to your statement about atheist marriages not being real marriages.
I am agnostic, and am currently engaged to a Christian woman who has agreed that when we do get married, it will not be in a church. Will that make our future children bastards?
badtown88 3 years ago
Don't take offense to everything. Jesus Christ! No your kids won't be bastards they would only be bastards if you raised them to be OR you had them out of wedlock. Jeeze give me a break. I was just trying to make a point that if GAYS can not get married then ATHEIST should not be able to because MARRIAGE is a RELIGIOUS thing according to politicians and other people. Atheists do not believe in religion remember?
Ladyluck8987 3 years ago
You believe in gay marriage and I don't so you have the right to impose that one me? Since when? You said it yourself "but you DO NOT have the right to impose your belief on others".
(I am not against gay marriage btw just using it as an example)
I have always said that the perfect conservative would be either agnostic or atheists. Because then liberals could not use religion as a point against us.
Ladyluck8987 3 years ago
You don't believe that Proposition 8 was imposing??? First of all, no church should ever be involved in American government, unless they agree to give up their right not to be taxed. But that aside, all arguments against gay marriage center around religion. Last time I checked, we were supposed to not let religion impact our government. Now, let me clarify, when I said conservatives before, I meant neo-cons. There are conservatives I like such as Ron Paul.
badtown88 3 years ago
Prop eight was just letting the PEOPLE decide whether or not they wanted it. Personally I think we should not be voting on it, it should just be there and people get over it. But that is the road they took it down and THE PEOPLE OF CA SPOKE! It wasn't a conspiracy. It was a vote for it or against it and CA voted against. It was not imposing anyone because people had a choice. Not saying I agree but whatever. They spoke.
Ladyluck8987 3 years ago
Yes, the people of CA did speak, but my argument isn't against the outcome of the vote, it is against the reason for the vote in the first place. Like it or not, gay rights ARE civil rights. Now I understand some people don't believe that, but I fail to understand why they care. Why does it concern them what grown people do in their spare time? It shouldn't have been up for a vote in the first place.
I take offense to your statement about atheist marriages not being real marriages.
badtown88 3 years ago
Yes because "marriage" is a religious thing. I am all about civil unions for both gay couples and atheists straight couples (they don't believe in god or religion so hey stay the hell out of my cermony). But like I said I think state and church need to be separate. Like if that church wants to marry a gay couple then let them if they don't that couple should not get mad because it is against their doctrine anyways. You can't impose gay marriage on religions.
Ladyluck8987 3 years ago
"MARRIAGE is a RELIGIOUS thing"
Well duh, it ain't. and in NO WAY is anybody asking for gay marriage to be embedded in ANY christian church or whatever. There's no official religion in the states or cali, so how could they ask that?
Same Sex Marriage proponents ask for EQUAL RIGHTS.
HuhOhIc 2 years ago
It doesn't always have to be about religion though. Some people might argue that it is unnatural or that untraditional. So I mean it is not always about religion.
Ladyluck8987 3 years ago
Of course it's not traditional! But why does that matter??? If people don't like gay marriage, then that's fine, but don't pass laws based on opinions. That's silly and harmful and just plain stupid. For example, I hate organized religion, but I would never support a law banning religion. People have to learn to separate their opinions from what is best for the country.
badtown88 3 years ago
I agree but obviously they are not. So we just have to make due with what we have.
When there is a ridiculous poll our there or law out there that is getting ready to be voted on GO OUT AND VOTE. That is the only way you can fight it. Don't attack churches though....that is stupid there too.
Ladyluck8987 3 years ago
I think you're hiding behind the vote on Prop 8, to safely say that it wasn't really religion that attacked gay marriage.
Of all the ReichWings lunacies, anti-gay marriageism is the weirdest.
How are they offended by the bond or contract between two consenting adults?
It's highly illogical.
Nobody LOSES anything if we call it marriage.
but gays lose a very essential thing: Equality. Equal but separate is outdated.
HuhOhIc 2 years ago
Karl Rove, the talking rectal cavity. No surprise he would be a Fox News consultant.
Hammerlix 3 years ago
Is he kidding? Doesn't he realize that the Huxtables were fake and the Obamas are real?
anonywho 3 years ago
hey i was just thinking. since we now have a black president does that mean that they are now the "man". lol
jletts2 3 years ago
You are an idiot.
LoveTruth86 3 years ago
The cosbys were Americas first family??? bollocks
blacks are on Entertainment shows or sports shows, so that means blacks r accepted?! lol even more bollocks
Now Politics Mr now they r running tings! ha ha ha its been a long time coming
President Obama! 2008!
Applebaum 3 years ago
Obama is entertainment fool. People don't even know what Obama stands for. They rally behind him mindlessly not knowing what his history or positions are. You are salivating over him like he was a movie star. Zombies!
ObamaTheRacistGuy 3 years ago 2
Indeed they are. Indeed they are.
TimeWarp66 3 years ago
Karl Rove is a piece of shit. He's trash. He needs to be in jail.
trublueone 3 years ago
karl rove. what a dipshit. glad you had your obama bumpersticker? well, guess who got elected, doughboy!
jjwall4 3 years ago
I saw that live! XD I couldnt stop laughing.
TheIrateSun 3 years ago
Oh yes...The Architect of Idiocy. What a moronic fuck.
RillaMyRilla 3 years ago
black is accepted.... racist fuck
gstanzlhansl 3 years ago
Wow, Karl Rove is a moron. This is such a ridiculous argument.
amibidhrohi2006 3 years ago
When Rove said that about the Cosby Show, I thought, "he said that out loud???!! Not that I'm knockin the Cosby Show but it's TV! What are the Evans from Good Times, the fricken Senate?? What is wrong with these people??" Ugh. Still, the cost of a gallon of gas under Bush in 07 and 08, $5.00. The cost of the housing market under a failed economy, unthinkable. The look on the Fox News executives when it was announced that Obama won... PRICELESS
youngrebels75 3 years ago 2
arrest the whole Bush Administration for treason
dorsguy 3 years ago 7
What an ass hat.
hollygolightly66 3 years ago
seriously..of all the prominent black figures in american history this is who you come up with on this HISTORYCAL TIME!?..BILL COSBY?...A COMEDIAN!?????
im not knocking on bill cosby, hes an exeptional human being..but seriously...the first black president to a comedian???!
Tinils 3 years ago 4
Anyone else you can suggest?
Gladius314 3 years ago
Wow this guy is racist why is he even on TV, well forget him Obama/Biden 08 We did it!!!!
thekidd9245 3 years ago 2
Sorry, how is he racist?
Gladius314 3 years ago
LOl! That was bad.
ElectricPineapple79 3 years ago 2
And what I think of when I think of the 60's are dogs and hoses and assassinations.
JaphletBA 3 years ago 3
"..for those of us who remember the 60s."
Jerk, Cosby Show was on television from 1984-1992.
Just arrest Rove now and get it over with, throw away the key.
USNARox2008 3 years ago 6