Why do I go to my letures anymore? As in school, a simple 5 minutes (or in this case 10 minutes) YouTube video helps more than an entire lecture of 90 minutes...
So I think I'm going to start skiving my lertures watching some videos and football (never call it soccer!) matches instead. Quite more productive...
@FIGHTFANNERD3 ...Really?! Well, I have to admit that, according to our "Symbols," your "smart" comment is quite ignorant. "girls" should be capitalized, "people" should have a comma after it, there should be a period after "smart," and your later comment of "but same are" is simply ridiculous, especially since "same" is supposed to read 'some.' I recommend that before you attack girls for their, obviously high, intellectual capacity, you refine your own knowledge base. BTW, I'm a guy...
@DrClintDP, perhaps you misunderstand the meaning of a social construction.Obviously you are reading a comment that I've written to another and felt it your duty to explain to me the blatantly obvious. Yes, race is a social construct, meaning it's a "pigment of your imagination"!
Feminism is also a socially constructed theory, isn't it? The term 'social construct' was socially constructed right?
We socially construct things that are false/true.
Facts today can be wrong tomorrow so even a said "fact" can be subjective.
Is gender incorrect or subjective because it is "socially constructed"? Ones subjection is also subjective isn't it? Isn't the term social construct and its meaning also subjective?
Yes you're absolutely right... Arguments based upon social construction theories can claim no basis other than social construction and so ultimately deconstruct themselves. Then again the point of Cultural Marxism is not to provide coherent and cogent arguments but merely to engage in maximum disagreement.
@sausage4mash...here's what I found while researching....come again? DNA studies do not indicate that separate classifiable subspecies (races) exist within modern humans. While different genes for physical traits such as skin and hair color can be identified between individuals, no consistent patterns of genes across the human genome exist to distinguish one race from another.
@sausage4mash, you poor dear, there truly is no such thing as race, other than human. Both the "Chinese" man and the "black" man are considered homo sapiens. Research it!
further reading for social science students : Fashionable Nonsense: Postmodern Intellectuals' Abuse of Science by professors Alan Sokal and Jean Bricmont.
Social construction is common sense, if you need to learn this in a text or video then i guess some are just less perceptive than others. I normally eat cereal before bed due to slow digesting proteins in the milk so I guess I dont follow this norm as well as others. Also i eat 4-5 meals and dont refer to them as breakfast or dinner. And most women tend to like to shop more than men. How could a rational person deny this? Again I'm not speaking for all women
Native Americans WERE more connected to nature, that's not a social construction it's factual. And stats have shown that women do like shopping. So many things that are being redefined as social construction are actual.
I think a lot of things that are claimed to be socially constructed actually have characteristics that motivate their identification. For example pink being for girls kind of makes sense because the inside of vaginas are pink. Giving someone the finger *feels* different than a thumbs up. Not just because of symbolism but the physical act of it is innately more aggressive, same as hitting someone feels different than hugging them.
So gender is entirely a social construct not psychological at all ? it has not even a little to do with the differences in a male and female archetypal brain or the choice of a transvestite to pick a different gender other then their birth sex? so with this logic your need to wear clothing is social construction, the term species is socially constructed, just about anything you do is entirely socially constructed. infarct feminism itself is socially constructed... even your opinion is.
our entire reality is a social construction. all our words, thoughts, feelings, morals, are objectively meaningless. unfortunately, due to human nature we're unable to fully accept this, and despite whether or not we agree with this idea's validity, we can't actually adopt it as something to live by. we have to care because we're survival machines and nothing more.
@angrygrunt 'Objectively meaningless'. Really then why does a child or baby naturally cry if they see an act of violence take place or something? Is that socially constructed? No, we are responding to what our senses tell us about things. It's when we ignore that that there are problems. Real social construction to me is like when people are programmed to believe things counter to their senses and ignore intuition in order to gain social acceptance from others. Which is a rampant problem
@dubified89 i suppose that baby cries because his instincts tell him to. i didn't say that our actions were the result of social constructs, i said that they are social constructs. you observe a crying baby, and you think, "that's a crying baby". it's not a crying baby. crying and baby are two words with literally no connection to an actual crying baby other than those provided by social construction. our senses don't tell us about the true nature of things, because things cannot be observe
@angrygrunt (cont) observed for what they really are. light bounces off the baby and your eyes measure the wavelength. that doesn't somehow decode the light to show you how the baby "really looks", it's just your brain's interpretation of light. the baby is an idea.
Essentialists and constructionists would not actually argue against each other on the validity of their perspective, they are both inclined towards an intellectual perspective of the world. Where as ignorance can argue against anything by its ogjective to ignore. Why don't we 'socially construct' a state where bone marrow can be tailored according to individual specifications through the use of IPS cell technology?
So race doesn't exist. How about different breeds of dogs? Do they exist, or is this another construction?
Anybody that can't tell the difference between a nigger and a White person probably can't tell the difference between a Chihuahua and a Great Dane.
Wake up, dumbasses: EQUALITY is a social construction, race isn't . Google thugreport, American Renaissance, the Council of Conservative Citizens, Vdare, Niggermania, Chimpout and Stuff Black People Don't Like for verification.
@moojeed Is a caucasian 6 foot 6 male the same as a caucasian 5 foot 3 female? Race exists at a level where categorization of people is based on distinctive physical features. As for proponents of "Empires of the Mind" where categorization is based on the illusive idea of a collective value system, is a level where people have different explanations and justifications for doing the same shit as other people's at other levels.(levels refers to the partition within the structure, not hierarchy
@ponpawn235 Suck a dick, nigger lover. Use your eyes. Spend some time in a sub-Saharan African country and you will come away with a clear perception about race.
In response to your ridiculous analogy: No, a 6'6" Caucasian male is not the same as a 5'3" Caucasian female, but she could be his mom, sister or aunt.
Niggers are not fully evolved humans. Anyone who thinks they are hasn't spent any time around them in their natural habitat.
@moojeed No thankyou, I'm heterosexual, but thanks for the invite. And I'm not a nigger lover, niggers intimidate me for reasons I am not disclosing....I'm asian, Thai to be exact living in BKK, so, I do have some first hand experience on counterparts that in some criteria might be lower on the evolution scale. Like if resorting to violence is a notch down and reacting to a situation intellectually is a notch up. But the 6'6" guy and the 5'3" are both caucasian, so they share the same category
@moojeed I was just trying to point that Race categorizatoin is actually a valid ideology in its context. A context where physical traits indicate a factional identity as kin. But when put into other context, like relations based on marriage and by social contract of kins joined together, you could become my uncle or brother. But I guess that doesn't seem likely. Thanks for responding to my comment, it demonstrates your concern for my thoughts.
@ponpawn235 Sorry about the nigger lover accusation. I thought you were one of the little White shits who think their parents were ignorant for rescuing them from living around jungle animals.
I've been to Thailand and Singapore and I was very much impressed with both countries. I have also been to Angola and several other sub-Saharan African countries. They reminded me of the stuff in the Porta-Potties at a chili cook off. Kind of like most American inner-cities.
In conlusion there is no need to go off into different catorgiores of the social construction, but rather let people know that everything we see is an illusion, and that it is all how you perceive this construction we live in. It is one's perception that makes one's reality. That is something made up, or maybe it was already made up, or maybe I'm just lying completely. That is an example of what I believe to be a reality. You could have said just that and have ending the video in less than 1min.
We get the concept that we live in this social construction (it's common sense). The main question is why do you keep on naming 100's of examples of a social construction when all we need is just one to grasp this simple concept. Also after naming one hypothetical situation of a social construction we can make up other ones in our head with our imagination. Also you could just say that people are idiots and will fall for anything that is put in front of them. (more space)
There is the human race or species. The closer a country is located to the equator the darker the skin of the people who live there. The farther from the equator the liighter the skin of the folk. Race became an issue in the 15th centrury by European Social Philosophers. In America we are haunted by race and need to passed it already. Is anybody here not human? I'm not obessing just curious. We have cognitive pluralism, diversity , idiosyncrasy, and human unviversals. Gotta jet...
@sausage4mash race, culture and genetics are fairly difficult to separate in terms of the long term studies used to analyse medical conditions. If the majority of america is causasian, and white american culture says 'eat processed meat' then long term medical studies may associate genes with, for instance, colon cancer. Genes will be shared in the group, as will culture, how can you separate these?
S/he is trying to make the point that race is a social construction. There is no such thing as race. Biology itself can used it's "objectivity" & "empiricism" to prove that race exists and to create that difference if it doesn't exist. It's a circular knowledge that doesn't end...
"American tourists are often surprised when they don't see fortune cookies in China." WHAT?? who in the hell expects fortune cookies to be in China? And as for the breakfast thing, these two PHD's must not have heard of Jack in the Box that serves breakfast 24/7.
Gee...thanks for including the comment about the cat being fat. You are influencing the social construction by reinforcing once again that it is acceptable to call things fat. Some day this word may have the same negative connotations as another three letter f word for gay or the n word. Sorry but I don't say those words.
@shellcass. why should blacks have to ignore being attacked by racial slurs or jestures. Why can't others just stop making them? I'm not trying to sound attacking, it's just why do the victims of attacks have to be the ones to change themself. Why blame the effect instead of the cause?
Its funny to think that each one of us everyday perpetuates social constructions. While we dont HAVE to, we would be socially ostrasized to an extent if we didnt. for example, i (male)would never wear a skirt to town for the sake of contesting or challenging the socially constructed notion of gender because people would see me as so different that they wouldnt want to associate with me. Unfortunately, thats the nature of social constructions.
@70k3r74m35 OF COURSE WE DON´T HAVE TO PERPETUATE SOCIAL CONSTRUCTIONS... WE CAN JUST IGNORE ALL THE REST OF THOSE INSIGNIFICANT PEOPLE WHO HAPPEN TO LIVE IN OUR SOCIETY BECAUSE WE HAVE FREEDOM TO PUT OUR EGOCENTRIC WILL IN THE CENTER OF THE WHOLE UNIVERSE AND YET CONSIDER THOSE WE IGNORED AS GUILTY OF OUR IMMATURITY AND EGOCENTRISM. HOW BAD THEY ARE!!
But what if the majority of blacks, collectively decide to ignore any racial jestures or slurs...it would definately create change, what will be left are a bunch of other people describing a situation that doesn't exist, in the minds of blacks at least
great video...help me to have a much clear idea of what social construction is,thnks
Indeed, one of the things that fascinated me the most about my Intro to Sociology class was learning that there is no scientifically accepted biological basis for what differentiates races.
@RenewableFuel Race is a categorization that obviously has some validity a Chinese man is obviously different than a black man ,I'm confused why your comment is highest rated ?
Dr's need to know about race ,as some races have a genetic predisposition to some medical conditions .
@sausage4mash Ethnicity is real, but "race" is not. Natives of the Indian subcontinent and those of China are both part of the Asian "race", but are no more genetically linked than Chinese and Europeans. It was hotly contested from the 17th-19th centuries whether the Irish or Slav counted as "white", and in many cases they were excluded from this cultural distinction. The Catholic Irish and Orthodox Slav were viewed as less than their Anglo-Saxon Protestant overlords.
@TacticusPrime race: ( as i've just looked up in a dictionary ) A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
same thing as ethnicity ? ,are we talking semantics,
Darwin categorized using observations ,obviously with genetics that categorizations has been improved the term species is still valid .
An Asian is a different breed than an African but the same species; ok with that statement?
@sausage4mash No, describing humans as "breeds" is disgusting for one thing. White is not a ethnicity. Russians and Irishmen have different cultures and different genetic proclivities.
Asian is a ridiculous characterization, as i previously said, because it equates Chinese/Indians/New Guineans.
Ethnicity is the scientific correlation between genetics/culture/geography. Race is the sociological invention used by "whites" to justify their oppression of other peoples.
@TacticusPrime "No, describing humans as "breeds" is disgusting for one thing. " why is it ?
cut n paste wiki -
The differences between subspecies are usually less distinct than the differences between species, but more distinct than the differences between races or**breeds**.
I find you position to be muddled ,although I can understand your sensibilities.
but real science is about seeking the truth ,Humans are part of the animal kingdom we are subject to evolutionary forces .
@sausage4mash You are using pseudo-science to justify racism, like the Nazi eugenicists. "Blacks" and "Whites" are not subspecies of human. Neanderthal and human are subspecies of Homo sapiens. There is no genetic penalty, like in other hybrids, to cross-cultural procreation. Ethnicities are broad family groups, and thus can demonstrate certain proclivities. If your grandfather has dementia, then you probably will. Many of the slaves who survived the crossing must have had sickle cell.
@TacticusPrime Nice staw man to paint me as a racists ,I said breed not subspecies ,If you think Speciation is pseudo science then you are misinformed ,let me clarify my thoughts :
To judge a man purely on race is foolish as a lot of what molds a human comes from his environment , but humans did start down the road of Speciation 150'000yrs ago when we left Africa ,granted the changes where superficial but distinct enough to be described as breeds or race .
@sausage4mash Breeds are, in fact, the same as subspecies. Only a bigot would look at the remarkably homogeneous human genome and declare that there is clear evidence for human speciation. What studies are you citing? Who, besides you and the eugenicists, believes that the subtle alterations of the genome since the human race left Africa are "enough to be described as breeds or race[s]"? There is no evidence for this, and to suggest such a thing without proof denigrates real science.
@sausage4mash Of course there are clusters of traits. All families have clusters of traits. That's not evidence of SPECIATION. Neil Risch explains the proclivity toward a specific genetic disease among a certain subset of Jews. It's just like any other extended family. It doesn't make Jews or Africans or Chinese or Polynesians a different species to Englishmen or Germans. In fact, these diseases arise among intrabreeding populations. It is not your genetic health to have diverse blood.
@sausage4mash :- “What makes the current study, published in the February issue of the American Journal of Human Genetics, more conclusive is its size. The study is by far the largest, consisting of 3,636 people who all identified themselves as either white, African-American, East Asian or Hispanic. Of these, only five individuals had DNA that matched an ethnic group different than the box they checked at the beginning of the study.”
@sausage4mash That journal is posted online, and I don't see that study anywhere. The only one close to that I found was a study about the Most Recent Common Ancestor for all humanity. They conclude it is much more reason than previously thought, perhaps as close as only 13,600 years ago. You'll have to be more specific.
Although the general idea is ludicrous, given that 99.9% of DNA is the same for all humans.
are you questioning the legitimacy of the study ?
source of study :
Stanford University Medical Center (2005, January 31). Racial Groupings Match Genetic Profiles, Stanford Study Finds. ScienceDaily. Retrieved September 17, 2010
Neil Risch, Ph.D.
Professor of Human Genetics , I have his email as well,if you wish to validate the claim
That study, which is half a decade old, only demonstrates that the American population doesn't marry outside of "race" boundaries nearly as often as we would like to think. Obviously people from different areas of the world have slightly different genetic proclivities to disease. As I said earlier, it's just like any extended family. That study is a long way from demonstrating actual speciation among humans. That study, in fact, makes no speciation claims.
@TacticusPrime .so now you believe there is such a thing as Race and it can be defined by genetics ,thank you .
Now as to what constitutes speciation I DO NOT CARE ! ask a biologist .
my main point in this thread was that the statement "Race is a Social Construction." is wrong. also your words "Ethnicity is real, but "race" is not." is also wrong , and now you say contradicting yourself ," the American population doesn't marry outside of "race" boundaries,"
@sausage4mash No, there is no such thing as "race", merely ethnicity and family association. Speciation is the development of distinguishing characteristics that separate subspecies and eventually individual species in a particular family. There is no evidence that the arbitrary "racial" characteristics that we ascribe people are valid on literal level. The differences in genetics that define ethnic groupings are minor, and not at all legitimate enough to make the claims "race" makes.
@TacticusPrime you make no sense at all ,contradictory non-sense .
on one hand you have white supremacist morons over simplifying biology and on the other the politically correct left white washing facts ,I wish politics would stay away from science .
And also social science is not science, it's all feel good unfalsifiable hug wash ,and it pisses me off ! that us tax payers are paying for this crap .
@sausage4mash "Race" was constructed by European settlers in the "New World" in order ease their own consciences regarding their exploitation and extermination of the native populations. When they needed more and better labor they brought in people from Africa and proceeded to dehumanize them as well. That's simply a historical fact.
The only goal in equating English and Slav, Khoisan and Berber, Thai and Korean, etc., is to generate a modern caste system.
@TacticusPrime so you do not like the word race , but you have no objections with clusters of genetic traits in populations in different geographical locations,so my sensitive friend what do you want to call this ? ethnicity is no good as that defines other aspects as well as clusters of genetic traits in populations in different geographical locations ,we need a word for clusters of genetic traits in populations in different geographical locations ,lol , any Ideas ? ...*face palm
@sausage4mash Ethnicity works perfectly well to describe clustering genetic traits among populations of different geographic locations. Though I don't see why we need particular labels to affix to those with a slightly higher chance to contract a disease. In any case, this would allow us to rightly see the Khoisan and Berber as both unique and similar. The Hindi or Thai or Korean populations are as separate from each other as from the French or the Finns. Racial profiling leads to abuse.
@TacticusPrime Ethnicity is the correlation between genetics/culture/geography.where as Race is the definition of clusters of genetic traits in populations in different geographical locations .
Anyway this is like arguing with a christian apologist ,you are doing my head in .next you'll be telling me there is no such thing as sex and the term men and women is a social construct
@sausage4mash Yeah social constructionism is basically insane. Like it goes from irrelevant, like the stuff in this video, to insane. I.E. 'gender and race are social constructs'
@sausage4mash YOu know what i find interesting about your entire debate? You both get side- tracked by semetics. There is something I would like to know, however, how is it that you believe that man is shaped by his enviroment yet you don't put any faith in social constructionism? The environment that shapes us is highly social in nature.
@sausage4mash the irony is you are both right but neither of you are hitting the mark. I'm a white aussie. I am genetically different from a black aussie, yes. That is a scientific fact. That is not say that aboriginals are lower forms of life, alcoholics (the list goes on as it does with any racism). The way we view these different races, what we believe is 'true' about them are social constructs. That is the diffence between race 'the fact' and race 'the social construct'
"Race" relies primarily on appearance for identification and was scientifically (through empirical study and the human genome project) discredited several years ago. You are, however, better served by the term of ethnicity.
Culture is transitory as it can evolve/adapt, migrate, or be transplanted much faster, through social engineering, than biological ethnicity.
@OniNoFro I've gone over all this ground ,ethnicity is a conflation of Race and culture , all I'm saying is Race does exists in and of its own .
Proof : I could differentiate a pygmy Indian from an aboriginal by sight alone ,and I know a geneticists could do so from a blood sample ,no culture involved .
here read this : en.wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Race_and_genetics
@sausage4mash There is no scientific basis for dividing human beings into distinct racial categories. There have been numeruous genetic analysis tests conducted regarding this issue which have proven that point. You are correct in your assertion that race does exists, as evident by the different characteristics we posses. But to define race is to answer a very narrow and biologically trivial question. The value that race holds, has been accrued through the meaning we've attached to it.
@sausage4mash /face palm hes referring to how some people think there race is superior because of the color of the skin they were born with, which is like many things people claim to be born with I.E. weight problems, sexual identity, temperment is BULL SHIT, Human minds psychological evolve through experience, and perception, be it conscious or non conscious with genetics acting as amplifiers and influences, and is not in most cases the source of the issue, though there are always exceptions
@reno17420 I've no idea whose point you're addressing it certainly isn't mine ? , my only issue was with the statement " race is a social construct " a statement that is self evidently wrong .
@reno17420 well that's possible I guess ,although some people seems to be fanatical about preaching the gospel of "it's all a social construct " so who knows was it rhetoric fanaticism or a glib comment and who cares ,lol, this argument has gone on for 1yr now !
the sausages look like turds.
meepbeepjeepsheep 1 month ago
Why do I go to my letures anymore? As in school, a simple 5 minutes (or in this case 10 minutes) YouTube video helps more than an entire lecture of 90 minutes...
So I think I'm going to start skiving my lertures watching some videos and football (never call it soccer!) matches instead. Quite more productive...
Physieger 1 month ago
there not as logical
FIGHTFANNERD3 2 months ago
girls are people but there not as smart but same are
FIGHTFANNERD3 2 months ago
@FIGHTFANNERD3 ...Really?! Well, I have to admit that, according to our "Symbols," your "smart" comment is quite ignorant. "girls" should be capitalized, "people" should have a comma after it, there should be a period after "smart," and your later comment of "but same are" is simply ridiculous, especially since "same" is supposed to read 'some.' I recommend that before you attack girls for their, obviously high, intellectual capacity, you refine your own knowledge base. BTW, I'm a guy...
TheNewWorldSolution 2 months ago
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Race is not a social construct
FIGHTFANNERD3 2 months ago
Very informative!
krishaamer 3 months ago
Great video.
HelmetCamCycling 3 months ago
Most stereotypes exist due to observed social patterns, ie there exists an element of truth to the construction.
It is more misleading to ignore the construction then to observe them.
ForImperium 3 months ago
This helped me understand social constructionism a lot more, thank you :)
JimmehDao 4 months ago
foutune cookies were made in america.
MrLolman345 4 months ago
@DrClintDP, perhaps you misunderstand the meaning of a social construction.Obviously you are reading a comment that I've written to another and felt it your duty to explain to me the blatantly obvious. Yes, race is a social construct, meaning it's a "pigment of your imagination"!
purpleporcine 4 months ago
Sans social signifiers (e.g., clothes,) no social construct can be identified from the physical body alone.
Race can be identified from the physical body.
Race can be predicted from genetic information.
Genetic prediction correlates with physical identification >99%.
No other social construct can be identified from the physical body or be predicted from genes.
The idea that a social construct can be predicted from biology is incoherent.
Race is not a social construct.
CeltoSaxonKnight 6 months ago 2
@CeltoSaxonKnight indeed
FIGHTFANNERD3 2 months ago
Feminism is also a socially constructed theory, isn't it? The term 'social construct' was socially constructed right?
We socially construct things that are false/true.
Facts today can be wrong tomorrow so even a said "fact" can be subjective.
Is gender incorrect or subjective because it is "socially constructed"? Ones subjection is also subjective isn't it? Isn't the term social construct and its meaning also subjective?
themaniusedtob 7 months ago 2
@themaniusedtob
Yes you're absolutely right... Arguments based upon social construction theories can claim no basis other than social construction and so ultimately deconstruct themselves. Then again the point of Cultural Marxism is not to provide coherent and cogent arguments but merely to engage in maximum disagreement.
CeltoSaxonKnight 6 months ago
@sausage4mash...here's what I found while researching....come again? DNA studies do not indicate that separate classifiable subspecies (races) exist within modern humans. While different genes for physical traits such as skin and hair color can be identified between individuals, no consistent patterns of genes across the human genome exist to distinguish one race from another.
purpleporcine 7 months ago
@sausage4mash, you poor dear, there truly is no such thing as race, other than human. Both the "Chinese" man and the "black" man are considered homo sapiens. Research it!
purpleporcine 8 months ago
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sausage4mash 7 months ago
@purpleporcine My poor dear the topic was on social construction and race is a social construction.
DrClintDP 4 months ago
further reading for social science students : Fashionable Nonsense: Postmodern Intellectuals' Abuse of Science by professors Alan Sokal and Jean Bricmont.
sausage4mash 8 months ago
Social construction is common sense, if you need to learn this in a text or video then i guess some are just less perceptive than others. I normally eat cereal before bed due to slow digesting proteins in the milk so I guess I dont follow this norm as well as others. Also i eat 4-5 meals and dont refer to them as breakfast or dinner. And most women tend to like to shop more than men. How could a rational person deny this? Again I'm not speaking for all women
cavmanier 8 months ago
Native Americans WERE more connected to nature, that's not a social construction it's factual. And stats have shown that women do like shopping. So many things that are being redefined as social construction are actual.
dubified89 8 months ago
I think a lot of things that are claimed to be socially constructed actually have characteristics that motivate their identification. For example pink being for girls kind of makes sense because the inside of vaginas are pink. Giving someone the finger *feels* different than a thumbs up. Not just because of symbolism but the physical act of it is innately more aggressive, same as hitting someone feels different than hugging them.
dubified89 8 months ago
So gender is entirely a social construct not psychological at all ? it has not even a little to do with the differences in a male and female archetypal brain or the choice of a transvestite to pick a different gender other then their birth sex? so with this logic your need to wear clothing is social construction, the term species is socially constructed, just about anything you do is entirely socially constructed. infarct feminism itself is socially constructed... even your opinion is.
themaniusedtob 8 months ago
since this was part of an assignment... i hate you. here goes an iraqi thumbs up111
talk2meBabe 9 months ago
gender is too
powertodeb 9 months ago
our entire reality is a social construction. all our words, thoughts, feelings, morals, are objectively meaningless. unfortunately, due to human nature we're unable to fully accept this, and despite whether or not we agree with this idea's validity, we can't actually adopt it as something to live by. we have to care because we're survival machines and nothing more.
angrygrunt 9 months ago
@angrygrunt 'Objectively meaningless'. Really then why does a child or baby naturally cry if they see an act of violence take place or something? Is that socially constructed? No, we are responding to what our senses tell us about things. It's when we ignore that that there are problems. Real social construction to me is like when people are programmed to believe things counter to their senses and ignore intuition in order to gain social acceptance from others. Which is a rampant problem
dubified89 8 months ago
@dubified89 i suppose that baby cries because his instincts tell him to. i didn't say that our actions were the result of social constructs, i said that they are social constructs. you observe a crying baby, and you think, "that's a crying baby". it's not a crying baby. crying and baby are two words with literally no connection to an actual crying baby other than those provided by social construction. our senses don't tell us about the true nature of things, because things cannot be observe
angrygrunt 8 months ago
@angrygrunt (cont) observed for what they really are. light bounces off the baby and your eyes measure the wavelength. that doesn't somehow decode the light to show you how the baby "really looks", it's just your brain's interpretation of light. the baby is an idea.
angrygrunt 8 months ago
Essentialists and constructionists would not actually argue against each other on the validity of their perspective, they are both inclined towards an intellectual perspective of the world. Where as ignorance can argue against anything by its ogjective to ignore. Why don't we 'socially construct' a state where bone marrow can be tailored according to individual specifications through the use of IPS cell technology?
ponpawn235 9 months ago
So race doesn't exist. How about different breeds of dogs? Do they exist, or is this another construction?
Anybody that can't tell the difference between a nigger and a White person probably can't tell the difference between a Chihuahua and a Great Dane.
Wake up, dumbasses: EQUALITY is a social construction, race isn't . Google thugreport, American Renaissance, the Council of Conservative Citizens, Vdare, Niggermania, Chimpout and Stuff Black People Don't Like for verification.
moojeed 9 months ago
@moojeed Is a caucasian 6 foot 6 male the same as a caucasian 5 foot 3 female? Race exists at a level where categorization of people is based on distinctive physical features. As for proponents of "Empires of the Mind" where categorization is based on the illusive idea of a collective value system, is a level where people have different explanations and justifications for doing the same shit as other people's at other levels.(levels refers to the partition within the structure, not hierarchy
ponpawn235 9 months ago
@ponpawn235 Suck a dick, nigger lover. Use your eyes. Spend some time in a sub-Saharan African country and you will come away with a clear perception about race.
In response to your ridiculous analogy: No, a 6'6" Caucasian male is not the same as a 5'3" Caucasian female, but she could be his mom, sister or aunt.
Niggers are not fully evolved humans. Anyone who thinks they are hasn't spent any time around them in their natural habitat.
moojeed 9 months ago
@moojeed No thankyou, I'm heterosexual, but thanks for the invite. And I'm not a nigger lover, niggers intimidate me for reasons I am not disclosing....I'm asian, Thai to be exact living in BKK, so, I do have some first hand experience on counterparts that in some criteria might be lower on the evolution scale. Like if resorting to violence is a notch down and reacting to a situation intellectually is a notch up. But the 6'6" guy and the 5'3" are both caucasian, so they share the same category
ponpawn235 9 months ago
@moojeed I was just trying to point that Race categorizatoin is actually a valid ideology in its context. A context where physical traits indicate a factional identity as kin. But when put into other context, like relations based on marriage and by social contract of kins joined together, you could become my uncle or brother. But I guess that doesn't seem likely. Thanks for responding to my comment, it demonstrates your concern for my thoughts.
ponpawn235 9 months ago
@ponpawn235 Sorry about the nigger lover accusation. I thought you were one of the little White shits who think their parents were ignorant for rescuing them from living around jungle animals.
I've been to Thailand and Singapore and I was very much impressed with both countries. I have also been to Angola and several other sub-Saharan African countries. They reminded me of the stuff in the Porta-Potties at a chili cook off. Kind of like most American inner-cities.
moojeed 9 months ago
Mixed Race Actress Shannon Tavarez died from leukemia , because they couldn't find a bone marrow donor that was *Social construct*.
alexross8 10 months ago
Rather than explaining multiple examples in the category of social construction itself.
soccerboyAT 11 months ago
In conlusion there is no need to go off into different catorgiores of the social construction, but rather let people know that everything we see is an illusion, and that it is all how you perceive this construction we live in. It is one's perception that makes one's reality. That is something made up, or maybe it was already made up, or maybe I'm just lying completely. That is an example of what I believe to be a reality. You could have said just that and have ending the video in less than 1min.
soccerboyAT 11 months ago
We get the concept that we live in this social construction (it's common sense). The main question is why do you keep on naming 100's of examples of a social construction when all we need is just one to grasp this simple concept. Also after naming one hypothetical situation of a social construction we can make up other ones in our head with our imagination. Also you could just say that people are idiots and will fall for anything that is put in front of them. (more space)
soccerboyAT 11 months ago
A really excellent video. This has helped me more than any lectures ive attended this semester. Thanks.
hoopsnrays 11 months ago
A really excellent video. This has helped me more than any lectures ive attended this semester. Thanks.
hoopsnrays 11 months ago
There is the human race or species. The closer a country is located to the equator the darker the skin of the people who live there. The farther from the equator the liighter the skin of the folk. Race became an issue in the 15th centrury by European Social Philosophers. In America we are haunted by race and need to passed it already. Is anybody here not human? I'm not obessing just curious. We have cognitive pluralism, diversity , idiosyncrasy, and human unviversals. Gotta jet...
mdandrea39 11 months ago
Can someone please tell me if feminism is a social construction?
LOLATYOU1 1 year ago
lmao, this is so stupid.
YaFatButch 1 year ago
Thank you! That was very well put with some very good examples, it makes for easy understanding.
Occamed 1 year ago
Wealth/Class/Money is a very dangerous social construction. Along with God.
Taeil0151 1 year ago
Are bitches socially constructed too?
upstart1234ify 1 year ago
I hate political philosophy with a passion
mrdashes1 1 year ago
@sausage4mash race, culture and genetics are fairly difficult to separate in terms of the long term studies used to analyse medical conditions. If the majority of america is causasian, and white american culture says 'eat processed meat' then long term medical studies may associate genes with, for instance, colon cancer. Genes will be shared in the group, as will culture, how can you separate these?
twi1ightknight 1 year ago
@sausage4mash
S/he is trying to make the point that race is a social construction. There is no such thing as race. Biology itself can used it's "objectivity" & "empiricism" to prove that race exists and to create that difference if it doesn't exist. It's a circular knowledge that doesn't end...
psGFXtutorials 1 year ago
This is a very clear layout of the social constuction theory. Thanks its helped me clear up my ideas for my essay
Loxanna1987 1 year ago
helped with my homework! thanks for posting
mwish096 1 year ago
Thanks for posting this... helped me a lot
syzeone71 1 year ago
This helped a bunch! Thank you!
AkariLucero 1 year ago
Man and Women are social construction
essamjack 1 year ago
this helped me a lot with my homework! Thanks for sharing!
xAntDizzle 1 year ago
Great presentation, very useful!
EMMACHEN0411 1 year ago
How does social construction influence attitudes toward culture?
nickos153 1 year ago
google Doe's Account.
Wintblash 1 year ago
"American tourists are often surprised when they don't see fortune cookies in China." WHAT?? who in the hell expects fortune cookies to be in China? And as for the breakfast thing, these two PHD's must not have heard of Jack in the Box that serves breakfast 24/7.
DonF72 1 year ago
Gee...thanks for including the comment about the cat being fat. You are influencing the social construction by reinforcing once again that it is acceptable to call things fat. Some day this word may have the same negative connotations as another three letter f word for gay or the n word. Sorry but I don't say those words.
duchessvonpoopypantz 1 year ago
@shellcass. why should blacks have to ignore being attacked by racial slurs or jestures. Why can't others just stop making them? I'm not trying to sound attacking, it's just why do the victims of attacks have to be the ones to change themself. Why blame the effect instead of the cause?
LShenaeJ 1 year ago
Its funny to think that each one of us everyday perpetuates social constructions. While we dont HAVE to, we would be socially ostrasized to an extent if we didnt. for example, i (male)would never wear a skirt to town for the sake of contesting or challenging the socially constructed notion of gender because people would see me as so different that they wouldnt want to associate with me. Unfortunately, thats the nature of social constructions.
70k3r74m35 1 year ago
@70k3r74m35 OF COURSE WE DON´T HAVE TO PERPETUATE SOCIAL CONSTRUCTIONS... WE CAN JUST IGNORE ALL THE REST OF THOSE INSIGNIFICANT PEOPLE WHO HAPPEN TO LIVE IN OUR SOCIETY BECAUSE WE HAVE FREEDOM TO PUT OUR EGOCENTRIC WILL IN THE CENTER OF THE WHOLE UNIVERSE AND YET CONSIDER THOSE WE IGNORED AS GUILTY OF OUR IMMATURITY AND EGOCENTRISM. HOW BAD THEY ARE!!
feanando 1 year ago
I think it's funny how after watching this video the discussion mostly is about black people.
Jonste24 2 years ago
But what if the majority of blacks, collectively decide to ignore any racial jestures or slurs...it would definately create change, what will be left are a bunch of other people describing a situation that doesn't exist, in the minds of blacks at least
great video...help me to have a much clear idea of what social construction is,thnks
shellcass 2 years ago
Race is a Social Construction.
RenewableFuel 2 years ago 23
Indeed, one of the things that fascinated me the most about my Intro to Sociology class was learning that there is no scientifically accepted biological basis for what differentiates races.
DireSloth 2 years ago
@DireSloth that sounds like BS to me ,is social science real science ?
sausage4mash 1 year ago
Unfortunately most people have been brainwashed to keep believing in the construction.
DJmixmastermicro 1 year ago
@RenewableFuel Race is a categorization that obviously has some validity a Chinese man is obviously different than a black man ,I'm confused why your comment is highest rated ?
Dr's need to know about race ,as some races have a genetic predisposition to some medical conditions .
sausage4mash 1 year ago 16
@sausage4mash Ethnicity is real, but "race" is not. Natives of the Indian subcontinent and those of China are both part of the Asian "race", but are no more genetically linked than Chinese and Europeans. It was hotly contested from the 17th-19th centuries whether the Irish or Slav counted as "white", and in many cases they were excluded from this cultural distinction. The Catholic Irish and Orthodox Slav were viewed as less than their Anglo-Saxon Protestant overlords.
TacticusPrime 1 year ago
@TacticusPrime race: ( as i've just looked up in a dictionary ) A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
same thing as ethnicity ? ,are we talking semantics,
Darwin categorized using observations ,obviously with genetics that categorizations has been improved the term species is still valid .
An Asian is a different breed than an African but the same species; ok with that statement?
sausage4mash 1 year ago
@sausage4mash No, describing humans as "breeds" is disgusting for one thing. White is not a ethnicity. Russians and Irishmen have different cultures and different genetic proclivities.
Asian is a ridiculous characterization, as i previously said, because it equates Chinese/Indians/New Guineans.
Ethnicity is the scientific correlation between genetics/culture/geography. Race is the sociological invention used by "whites" to justify their oppression of other peoples.
TacticusPrime 1 year ago
@TacticusPrime "No, describing humans as "breeds" is disgusting for one thing. " why is it ?
cut n paste wiki -
The differences between subspecies are usually less distinct than the differences between species, but more distinct than the differences between races or**breeds**.
I find you position to be muddled ,although I can understand your sensibilities.
but real science is about seeking the truth ,Humans are part of the animal kingdom we are subject to evolutionary forces .
sausage4mash 1 year ago
@sausage4mash You are using pseudo-science to justify racism, like the Nazi eugenicists. "Blacks" and "Whites" are not subspecies of human. Neanderthal and human are subspecies of Homo sapiens. There is no genetic penalty, like in other hybrids, to cross-cultural procreation. Ethnicities are broad family groups, and thus can demonstrate certain proclivities. If your grandfather has dementia, then you probably will. Many of the slaves who survived the crossing must have had sickle cell.
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sausage4mash 1 year ago
@TacticusPrime Nice staw man to paint me as a racists ,I said breed not subspecies ,If you think Speciation is pseudo science then you are misinformed ,let me clarify my thoughts :
To judge a man purely on race is foolish as a lot of what molds a human comes from his environment , but humans did start down the road of Speciation 150'000yrs ago when we left Africa ,granted the changes where superficial but distinct enough to be described as breeds or race .
sausage4mash 1 year ago
@sausage4mash Breeds are, in fact, the same as subspecies. Only a bigot would look at the remarkably homogeneous human genome and declare that there is clear evidence for human speciation. What studies are you citing? Who, besides you and the eugenicists, believes that the subtle alterations of the genome since the human race left Africa are "enough to be described as breeds or race[s]"? There is no evidence for this, and to suggest such a thing without proof denigrates real science.
TacticusPrime 1 year ago
@TacticusPrime
You claim there is no evidence for clusters of genetic traits in populations in different geographical locations (ie: Race ) ?
If that is your position ,then I would point to the Neil Risch study on race .
political bias denigrates science in my opinion .
sausage4mash 1 year ago
@sausage4mash Of course there are clusters of traits. All families have clusters of traits. That's not evidence of SPECIATION. Neil Risch explains the proclivity toward a specific genetic disease among a certain subset of Jews. It's just like any other extended family. It doesn't make Jews or Africans or Chinese or Polynesians a different species to Englishmen or Germans. In fact, these diseases arise among intrabreeding populations. It is not your genetic health to have diverse blood.
TacticusPrime 1 year ago
@TacticusPrime I mean, of course, that it IS not your genetic health to have diverse blood.
TacticusPrime 1 year ago
@TacticusPrime IS in your genetic health. I hate typing so fast.
TacticusPrime 1 year ago
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@TacticusPrime
Those clusters of variation are also known to anyone of a sound mind as different races , they are not social constructs .
Neil Risch falsified the assertion "Race is a Social Construction."
I'll cut n paste a reply to this with the study I am referring too .
sausage4mash 1 year ago
@sausage4mash :- “What makes the current study, published in the February issue of the American Journal of Human Genetics, more conclusive is its size. The study is by far the largest, consisting of 3,636 people who all identified themselves as either white, African-American, East Asian or Hispanic. Of these, only five individuals had DNA that matched an ethnic group different than the box they checked at the beginning of the study.”
sausage4mash 1 year ago
@sausage4mash That journal is posted online, and I don't see that study anywhere. The only one close to that I found was a study about the Most Recent Common Ancestor for all humanity. They conclude it is much more reason than previously thought, perhaps as close as only 13,600 years ago. You'll have to be more specific.
Although the general idea is ludicrous, given that 99.9% of DNA is the same for all humans.
TacticusPrime 1 year ago
are you questioning the legitimacy of the study ?
source of study :
Stanford University Medical Center (2005, January 31). Racial Groupings Match Genetic Profiles, Stanford Study Finds. ScienceDaily. Retrieved September 17, 2010
Neil Risch, Ph.D.
Professor of Human Genetics , I have his email as well,if you wish to validate the claim
sausage4mash 1 year ago
That study, which is half a decade old, only demonstrates that the American population doesn't marry outside of "race" boundaries nearly as often as we would like to think. Obviously people from different areas of the world have slightly different genetic proclivities to disease. As I said earlier, it's just like any extended family. That study is a long way from demonstrating actual speciation among humans. That study, in fact, makes no speciation claims.
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sausage4mash 1 year ago
@TacticusPrime .so now you believe there is such a thing as Race and it can be defined by genetics ,thank you .
Now as to what constitutes speciation I DO NOT CARE ! ask a biologist .
my main point in this thread was that the statement "Race is a Social Construction." is wrong. also your words "Ethnicity is real, but "race" is not." is also wrong , and now you say contradicting yourself ," the American population doesn't marry outside of "race" boundaries,"
sausage4mash 1 year ago
@sausage4mash No, there is no such thing as "race", merely ethnicity and family association. Speciation is the development of distinguishing characteristics that separate subspecies and eventually individual species in a particular family. There is no evidence that the arbitrary "racial" characteristics that we ascribe people are valid on literal level. The differences in genetics that define ethnic groupings are minor, and not at all legitimate enough to make the claims "race" makes.
TacticusPrime 1 year ago
@TacticusPrime you make no sense at all ,contradictory non-sense .
on one hand you have white supremacist morons over simplifying biology and on the other the politically correct left white washing facts ,I wish politics would stay away from science .
And also social science is not science, it's all feel good unfalsifiable hug wash ,and it pisses me off ! that us tax payers are paying for this crap .
sausage4mash 1 year ago
@sausage4mash "Race" was constructed by European settlers in the "New World" in order ease their own consciences regarding their exploitation and extermination of the native populations. When they needed more and better labor they brought in people from Africa and proceeded to dehumanize them as well. That's simply a historical fact.
The only goal in equating English and Slav, Khoisan and Berber, Thai and Korean, etc., is to generate a modern caste system.
TacticusPrime 1 year ago
@TacticusPrime so you do not like the word race , but you have no objections with clusters of genetic traits in populations in different geographical locations,so my sensitive friend what do you want to call this ? ethnicity is no good as that defines other aspects as well as clusters of genetic traits in populations in different geographical locations ,we need a word for clusters of genetic traits in populations in different geographical locations ,lol , any Ideas ? ...*face palm
sausage4mash 1 year ago
@sausage4mash Ethnicity works perfectly well to describe clustering genetic traits among populations of different geographic locations. Though I don't see why we need particular labels to affix to those with a slightly higher chance to contract a disease. In any case, this would allow us to rightly see the Khoisan and Berber as both unique and similar. The Hindi or Thai or Korean populations are as separate from each other as from the French or the Finns. Racial profiling leads to abuse.
TacticusPrime 1 year ago
@TacticusPrime Ethnicity is the correlation between genetics/culture/geography.where as Race is the definition of clusters of genetic traits in populations in different geographical locations .
Anyway this is like arguing with a christian apologist ,you are doing my head in .next you'll be telling me there is no such thing as sex and the term men and women is a social construct
sausage4mash 1 year ago
@sausage4mash Yeah social constructionism is basically insane. Like it goes from irrelevant, like the stuff in this video, to insane. I.E. 'gender and race are social constructs'
dubified89 1 year ago
@sausage4mash how can you say social science is not a science??
Lazman65 1 year ago
@Lazman65 a theory is scientific if and only if it is falsifiable.
sausage4mash 1 year ago
@sausage4mash do you not test theories in social science? you kinda sound full of shit...
Lazman65 1 year ago
@Lazman65 /watch?v=IaO69CF5mbY or /watch?v=pcRZQvU1C9Q
sausage4mash 1 year ago
@sausage4mash YOu know what i find interesting about your entire debate? You both get side- tracked by semetics. There is something I would like to know, however, how is it that you believe that man is shaped by his enviroment yet you don't put any faith in social constructionism? The environment that shapes us is highly social in nature.
Loxanna1987 1 year ago
@sausage4mash the irony is you are both right but neither of you are hitting the mark. I'm a white aussie. I am genetically different from a black aussie, yes. That is a scientific fact. That is not say that aboriginals are lower forms of life, alcoholics (the list goes on as it does with any racism). The way we view these different races, what we believe is 'true' about them are social constructs. That is the diffence between race 'the fact' and race 'the social construct'
Loxanna1987 1 year ago
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@Loxanna1987 My objection was to the statement "Race is a Social Construction.", a blanket statement ,that is untrue .
if he/she had said " some of what defines race is but a social construct " ,I would not of objected .but that is not what was said .
sausage4mash 1 year ago
@sausage4mash
"Race" relies primarily on appearance for identification and was scientifically (through empirical study and the human genome project) discredited several years ago. You are, however, better served by the term of ethnicity.
Culture is transitory as it can evolve/adapt, migrate, or be transplanted much faster, through social engineering, than biological ethnicity.
OniNoFro 1 year ago
@OniNoFro I've gone over all this ground ,ethnicity is a conflation of Race and culture , all I'm saying is Race does exists in and of its own .
Proof : I could differentiate a pygmy Indian from an aboriginal by sight alone ,and I know a geneticists could do so from a blood sample ,no culture involved .
here read this : en.wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Race_and_genetics
sausage4mash 1 year ago
@sausage4mash There is no scientific basis for dividing human beings into distinct racial categories. There have been numeruous genetic analysis tests conducted regarding this issue which have proven that point. You are correct in your assertion that race does exists, as evident by the different characteristics we posses. But to define race is to answer a very narrow and biologically trivial question. The value that race holds, has been accrued through the meaning we've attached to it.
fuckupayme510 11 months ago
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@fuckupayme510 my only point was that this statement :"Race is a Social Construction." was wrong ,it had 18 thumbs up .
I think science is best done without political bias or interference
sausage4mash 11 months ago
@sausage4mash /face palm hes referring to how some people think there race is superior because of the color of the skin they were born with, which is like many things people claim to be born with I.E. weight problems, sexual identity, temperment is BULL SHIT, Human minds psychological evolve through experience, and perception, be it conscious or non conscious with genetics acting as amplifiers and influences, and is not in most cases the source of the issue, though there are always exceptions
reno17420 8 months ago
@reno17420 I've no idea whose point you're addressing it certainly isn't mine ? , my only issue was with the statement " race is a social construct " a statement that is self evidently wrong .
sausage4mash 8 months ago
@sausage4mash I don't think he meant it literally
reno17420 8 months ago
@reno17420 well that's possible I guess ,although some people seems to be fanatical about preaching the gospel of "it's all a social construct " so who knows was it rhetoric fanaticism or a glib comment and who cares ,lol, this argument has gone on for 1yr now !
sausage4mash 8 months ago
@sausage4mash not to put words in his mouth but perhaps it should be rephrased as nations are a social construct
jamrollz 7 months ago
@jamrollz i agree with a nation being a social construct
sausage4mash 7 months ago
nothings ever easy in life, people who say that so and so thing is easy, yes maybe but didn't you put in the effort to make it easy for yourself;
effort+concentration=good grades+thinking the subject is easy.
chc033044 2 years ago
man..i have homework on this video... someone help me !!!
TheKhushin 2 years ago
Socialogy: The lowest excuse for a science there is. The only science that does not require a brain to learn.
You tell people you have a Ph.D. and they think, "Wow... that person is smart."
Then you tell them it's in sociology and they say, "That figures. I always knew s/he was a dumb ass."
lol
collins1188 2 years ago
Foolish, absolutely foolish.
idoruZe 2 years ago
Ever taken sociology classes?
I took Race and Ethnic Relations and Sociology 101....
Easiest classes I've ever taken.
collins1188 2 years ago
lol
derhannoveraner 2 years ago
if you're bored why watch it?
thanks a lot for this. it helped with my presentation on constructivism
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This is very boring.
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MonroeOgden 2 years ago
Almost too clear in that the horse has been long dead, quit beating it .... sort of explanations ... but well done! : )
JMehrman 2 years ago
Very good presentation, nicely clears out the complexities of S-C. Thanks for posting
guideseeker233 2 years ago
very clear and amusing.
felixfatfunk 3 years ago
thanks that really helped clear some things up!
Eddie4sale 3 years ago
I enjoyed the liberal undertone near the end...
jusmart 3 years ago