The point is that believing in something that does not exist does more harm than good. It promotes ignorance, no REAL accountability, and slows down society's growth into more complex organization models. Science, health, money (wealth), and laws are all effected by religion. Please don't post anything unless you have done the research based on scientific facts. NOT hear say or stories written by people who thought the earth was flat!
As for being cryptic with the post before the previous post, with nation, I more or less meant state in the sense of sovreign entity, not in the sense of state as an institution per-se.
so rather I meant the people and institutions of otherwise politically and possibly economically independent entities.
I don't think mearly atheism would help alone, obviously it would require mass cooperation between nations who otherwise wouldn't have reason to cooperate or a common government.[getting nations to cooperate on such projects is probably the most productive for peace]
@jakatak1134 As I said the only people in the way are toughs that did not and do not understand the advantages of space travel and space exploration. There were many more than just the Catholic church that hindered scientific advances, people like Taco Brahe who discovered some of the most important findings in astrometry were doing so to prove the Earth centered universe as correct a system that i might add was created by a Greek named Ptomoly who lived 100's of years before Jesus.
@SuperAussm Superaussm, the main crowd of super religious people, conservative jesus freaks, because of their philosophy of "we need to wait here for the 2nd comming and the bible says that it will happen on earth, so lets not live on mars" or "god put a 'do not touch sign on space'" and because of their closed minded views on the world, god is in control and it wouldnt help to colonize the solar system, and that they generally dont care about scientific advancement and slow it down because...
@InvisibleSpaceMaster they think taking it much further in things like nanobots living inside us for medical reasons, genetic engineering and stem cell research is evil and should not be done, thatst the ONLY reaons we science cant do those things.
@InvisibleSpaceMaster Really are your facts based on truth or what you believe to be true? I’m sure that the bible does not say "Don’t go to mars or the rest of space" why because the people of that time did not know what space was. Stop blaming people for the failure of our whole race! You’re clearly ignorant to the reality of the challenge that faces us. Space travel is much more complicated than in the movies and video games.
@InvisibleSpaceMaster No major religion has ever said that we can’t go into space only the crazy ass American Christian community churches that have no tie to Catholicism or Judaism or Islam have more than likely protested space travel. I’m sure that their not the only ones I’m sure that there have been many people that don’t even understand space travels importance that stand in the way of Space travel Oh and it Atheists were in charge there would be just as much war and death as there is now
@InvisibleSpaceMaster If you live under the allusion that Atheism would bring peace you’re dumber than I could have imagined. Also do you think that if atheism ruled it would bring the planet tougher no it would not and if you think that humanity cant join tougher because of religion than clearly you’ve been living in a box. There are many many different reasons why the world has not yet united under one flag manly political also because the U.N is useless.
@InvisibleSpaceMaster Aslo because we are very different thinking people one may think red one may think blue that’s all that needed to start wars and to end unification talks. You should not have jumped so fast to the conclusion that it all gods fault when the people that worship him have no say in how much NASA gets for space travel or how much the European Space Program gets or the Chinese or Russian were not in space because of the lack of tech not because the Religious are in the way.
@SuperAussm Think about it, whats the source of our discrimination? whats the source of most wars? whats the source of someone being arrogant about themself? here an example: europeans though they where better than blacks and indians because they where christian and that ment 'god' was on their side and they could take their land, kill their people and enslave them and the africans. Another is the muslims and 911, the crusades, and so on, they permently scarred us for peace.
@InvisibleSpaceMaster The Source of our discrimination is human ignorance; Religion teaches peace love thy neighbor, treat others as you would like to be treated. The source of most wars has been over resources ranging from water to oil. It’s also been over land and borders. Europeans thought that they were better than blacks because they had better technology and much more advanced civilization. God says thou shall not kill so that ends that argument. The 9/11 attacks were much more than...
@InvisibleSpaceMaster You are aware I’m taking counter terrorism courses and can’t really tell you the details. But yes they were to some degree a religious event that has nothing to do with the advance into space; you've removed yourself from the point of the argument. The 9/11 attacks never stopped us from getting to the moon it has and always bee corporation’s and Politicians that slow the advance and I kindly hope that you…
@invisibleSpaceMaster ... release that before you go about spouting you NAZI filth. You do know that the NAZI's were atheists right oh wait you didn’t oh I’m so sorry that people like you have killed millions for nothing and if you don’t believe me look it up in the history books because they believed that there was no god only HITLER!!! Though through Nazi efforts we were able to reach the moon it just took over 12 million deaths to get use there with their Atheist help.
@InvisibleSpaceMaster hey bud, don't waste your time with this 'superaussam' guy, acknowledging him/her at this point would serve as an unwarranted glorification, hes too hostile to even try to learn from whatever point you try to make to him, he sees arguments as competitions rather than comparisons of ideas, so theres no need to listen to his. until he's embraced the scientific/socratic methods, he's not going to learn a thing. k? L=
@InvisibleSpaceMaster but even before disproving religion i feel like it'd just be amazing to have a society who's mindset in all situations would be to attain more knowledge. then situations like arguments where it's one belief vs. another for the sake of competition/standing up for your belief, would change to factual comparisons for the sake of self-education or educating the other party. However, while the past can not be changed, i still find hope in the Venus Project
@jakatak1134 Yes, like i said we are scarred, because of ancient religion our cultures have been vastly seperated, but some countrys in europe are up to 85% atheist, we are getting there. But some of the conservative jesus freaks in america are scaring me..
@jakatak1134 So please explain how the church had a making in that? It was also supported by all of the ancient world most notable scientists like Aristotle and Plato this was what the whole world believed and Aristotle’s work was followed up until the 17 or 1800's. The central earth theory was what the world believed and it was not just the church that disagreed with the sun centered universe many scientists of the ancient world also agreed with this.
globalism is a burden though, nature needs war, I believe there is more than physical aspects, but world needs war, animals kill each other too and we will once end thats the cycle of life
@KingZoritaGorington1 Listen you egotistical, ignorant, imaginative pathedic degrader of human intelligence, how you cannot be inspired by this image i put infront of your face for humanity.
@InvisibleSpaceMaster Hm you may be right on some levels, but I think that religion brought comfort, order and understanding to humans when we were first beginning to truly ponder our existence and beyond. Now humans are more intelligent, we do not need religion for these things any more but I think it used to be important.
@InvisibleSpaceMaster Who do you think you are to say that Religon is stopping us from reaching the stars? Religon has never cut the space program and has never tried to stop us from reaching the stars! To think of something so simple minded is the work of a simple minded person. Jew, Christans (except Extremeists) and many other religons live side by side in peace look at america. Im sorry that you to narrow minded to see that people that do not understand the advantages of space are in the way
@SuperAussm because it hindered centuries of science, during the era where everything in the bible was regarded as scientific law, actual progress was near impossible
@jakatak1134 It would like someone saying that E=mc^2 is wrong or that Pie is not 3.14... it was a worldwide accepted fact and to pin all the blame on just religion is a sad sad thing to do and means that you have not done the prober research into this topic. Also it would have been the same if Atheists had been in charge and if you’re to ignorant to believe that than your also more than likely to dumb to understand what I’m saying.
@KingZoritaGorington1 if there is life without religion, there is no sin to be saved from, only a series of causes and effects, much like.... well every situation that ever occurred really. there is a logical explanation for everything. (sorry if you're trolling and "zorita" is a made up deity)
The point is that believing in something that does not exist does more harm than good. It promotes ignorance, no REAL accountability, and slows down society's growth into more complex organization models. Science, health, money (wealth), and laws are all effected by religion. Please don't post anything unless you have done the research based on scientific facts. NOT hear say or stories written by people who thought the earth was flat!
BullHalsey65 3 days ago
As for being cryptic with the post before the previous post, with nation, I more or less meant state in the sense of sovreign entity, not in the sense of state as an institution per-se.
so rather I meant the people and institutions of otherwise politically and possibly economically independent entities.
Astrolutra 1 week ago
However I would agree that a major barrier to cooperation is in-fact religious beliefs that seam to devide humanity.
Astrolutra 1 week ago
I don't think mearly atheism would help alone, obviously it would require mass cooperation between nations who otherwise wouldn't have reason to cooperate or a common government.[getting nations to cooperate on such projects is probably the most productive for peace]
Astrolutra 1 week ago
@jakatak1134 As I said the only people in the way are toughs that did not and do not understand the advantages of space travel and space exploration. There were many more than just the Catholic church that hindered scientific advances, people like Taco Brahe who discovered some of the most important findings in astrometry were doing so to prove the Earth centered universe as correct a system that i might add was created by a Greek named Ptomoly who lived 100's of years before Jesus.
SuperAussm 2 weeks ago
@SuperAussm Superaussm, the main crowd of super religious people, conservative jesus freaks, because of their philosophy of "we need to wait here for the 2nd comming and the bible says that it will happen on earth, so lets not live on mars" or "god put a 'do not touch sign on space'" and because of their closed minded views on the world, god is in control and it wouldnt help to colonize the solar system, and that they generally dont care about scientific advancement and slow it down because...
InvisibleSpaceMaster 2 weeks ago
@InvisibleSpaceMaster they think taking it much further in things like nanobots living inside us for medical reasons, genetic engineering and stem cell research is evil and should not be done, thatst the ONLY reaons we science cant do those things.
InvisibleSpaceMaster 2 weeks ago
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SuperAussm 2 weeks ago
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SuperAussm 2 weeks ago
@InvisibleSpaceMaster Really are your facts based on truth or what you believe to be true? I’m sure that the bible does not say "Don’t go to mars or the rest of space" why because the people of that time did not know what space was. Stop blaming people for the failure of our whole race! You’re clearly ignorant to the reality of the challenge that faces us. Space travel is much more complicated than in the movies and video games.
SuperAussm 2 weeks ago
@InvisibleSpaceMaster No major religion has ever said that we can’t go into space only the crazy ass American Christian community churches that have no tie to Catholicism or Judaism or Islam have more than likely protested space travel. I’m sure that their not the only ones I’m sure that there have been many people that don’t even understand space travels importance that stand in the way of Space travel Oh and it Atheists were in charge there would be just as much war and death as there is now
SuperAussm 2 weeks ago
@InvisibleSpaceMaster If you live under the allusion that Atheism would bring peace you’re dumber than I could have imagined. Also do you think that if atheism ruled it would bring the planet tougher no it would not and if you think that humanity cant join tougher because of religion than clearly you’ve been living in a box. There are many many different reasons why the world has not yet united under one flag manly political also because the U.N is useless.
SuperAussm 2 weeks ago
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@InvisibleSpaceMaster Aslo because we are very different thinking people one may think red one may think blue that’s all that needed to start wars and to end unification talks. You should not have jumped so fast to the conclusion that it all gods fault when the people that worship him have no say in how much NASA gets for space travel or how much the European Space Program gets or the Chinese or Russian were not in space because of the lack of tech not because the Religious are in the way.
SuperAussm 2 weeks ago
@SuperAussm Think about it, whats the source of our discrimination? whats the source of most wars? whats the source of someone being arrogant about themself? here an example: europeans though they where better than blacks and indians because they where christian and that ment 'god' was on their side and they could take their land, kill their people and enslave them and the africans. Another is the muslims and 911, the crusades, and so on, they permently scarred us for peace.
InvisibleSpaceMaster 2 weeks ago
@InvisibleSpaceMaster The Source of our discrimination is human ignorance; Religion teaches peace love thy neighbor, treat others as you would like to be treated. The source of most wars has been over resources ranging from water to oil. It’s also been over land and borders. Europeans thought that they were better than blacks because they had better technology and much more advanced civilization. God says thou shall not kill so that ends that argument. The 9/11 attacks were much more than...
SuperAussm 2 weeks ago
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@InvisibleSpaceMaster You are aware I’m taking counter terrorism courses and can’t really tell you the details. But yes they were to some degree a religious event that has nothing to do with the advance into space; you've removed yourself from the point of the argument. The 9/11 attacks never stopped us from getting to the moon it has and always bee corporation’s and Politicians that slow the advance and I kindly hope that you…
SuperAussm 2 weeks ago
@invisibleSpaceMaster ... release that before you go about spouting you NAZI filth. You do know that the NAZI's were atheists right oh wait you didn’t oh I’m so sorry that people like you have killed millions for nothing and if you don’t believe me look it up in the history books because they believed that there was no god only HITLER!!! Though through Nazi efforts we were able to reach the moon it just took over 12 million deaths to get use there with their Atheist help.
SuperAussm 2 weeks ago
@InvisibleSpaceMaster hey bud, don't waste your time with this 'superaussam' guy, acknowledging him/her at this point would serve as an unwarranted glorification, hes too hostile to even try to learn from whatever point you try to make to him, he sees arguments as competitions rather than comparisons of ideas, so theres no need to listen to his. until he's embraced the scientific/socratic methods, he's not going to learn a thing. k? L=
jakatak1134 2 weeks ago
@jakatak1134 Not much else we can do than try to get it though their heads, too many of them exist
InvisibleSpaceMaster 2 weeks ago
@InvisibleSpaceMaster but even before disproving religion i feel like it'd just be amazing to have a society who's mindset in all situations would be to attain more knowledge. then situations like arguments where it's one belief vs. another for the sake of competition/standing up for your belief, would change to factual comparisons for the sake of self-education or educating the other party. However, while the past can not be changed, i still find hope in the Venus Project
jakatak1134 2 weeks ago
@jakatak1134 Yes, like i said we are scarred, because of ancient religion our cultures have been vastly seperated, but some countrys in europe are up to 85% atheist, we are getting there. But some of the conservative jesus freaks in america are scaring me..
InvisibleSpaceMaster 2 weeks ago
@jakatak1134 So please explain how the church had a making in that? It was also supported by all of the ancient world most notable scientists like Aristotle and Plato this was what the whole world believed and Aristotle’s work was followed up until the 17 or 1800's. The central earth theory was what the world believed and it was not just the church that disagreed with the sun centered universe many scientists of the ancient world also agreed with this.
SuperAussm 2 weeks ago
This is what atheists really believe? Wow, the creator of this video unlocked a new level of ignorance, haha.
HunterGuilherme 2 weeks ago
If not for religion, there would be no conflicts.. How boring wouldn't life be without them?
Pointburn 2 weeks ago
A lot of people died because of one term: My God/Religion is better than ours
69Screwface69 3 weeks ago
globalism is a burden though, nature needs war, I believe there is more than physical aspects, but world needs war, animals kill each other too and we will once end thats the cycle of life
darkchamberofdark666 4 weeks ago
I'm a christain and me and Zorita are offended by the video. If there is life without religion, who will save us from our sins. :(
KingZoritaGorington1 1 month ago
@KingZoritaGorington1 Listen you egotistical, ignorant, imaginative pathedic degrader of human intelligence, how you cannot be inspired by this image i put infront of your face for humanity.
InvisibleSpaceMaster 1 month ago
@InvisibleSpaceMaster Hm you may be right on some levels, but I think that religion brought comfort, order and understanding to humans when we were first beginning to truly ponder our existence and beyond. Now humans are more intelligent, we do not need religion for these things any more but I think it used to be important.
Ghostneedle1 2 weeks ago
@InvisibleSpaceMaster Who do you think you are to say that Religon is stopping us from reaching the stars? Religon has never cut the space program and has never tried to stop us from reaching the stars! To think of something so simple minded is the work of a simple minded person. Jew, Christans (except Extremeists) and many other religons live side by side in peace look at america. Im sorry that you to narrow minded to see that people that do not understand the advantages of space are in the way
SuperAussm 2 weeks ago
@SuperAussm because it hindered centuries of science, during the era where everything in the bible was regarded as scientific law, actual progress was near impossible
jakatak1134 2 weeks ago
@jakatak1134 It would like someone saying that E=mc^2 is wrong or that Pie is not 3.14... it was a worldwide accepted fact and to pin all the blame on just religion is a sad sad thing to do and means that you have not done the prober research into this topic. Also it would have been the same if Atheists had been in charge and if you’re to ignorant to believe that than your also more than likely to dumb to understand what I’m saying.
SuperAussm 2 weeks ago
@KingZoritaGorington1 Still revealing in the fairy tales of old are we? Grow up. Sin is a concept creating to enforce control.
JamesHarlot 3 weeks ago
@KingZoritaGorington1 You. Its in your power to do so not some Divine mythos.
runescapeaqown 3 weeks ago
@KingZoritaGorington1 who will save us from sin of religion?
superfish812 2 weeks ago
@KingZoritaGorington1 if there is life without religion, there is no sin to be saved from, only a series of causes and effects, much like.... well every situation that ever occurred really. there is a logical explanation for everything. (sorry if you're trolling and "zorita" is a made up deity)
jakatak1134 2 weeks ago
Love it.
NTurner42 1 month ago
That would really be awsome, without IQ lowering religion.
FfLQ26tb 1 month ago 2