@fmilktoast No, I wish I did, string gauge is really important in figuring out what an artist's tone was. For example, early Page, he used 8 gauge which is critical to nailing his sound. Bloomfield surprisingly used very heavy strings like 12's or even 13's. If you find out let me know.
As a lifetime PG fan, you may not have captured the playing quality (no criticism, few ever have) but boy you have the guitar tone nailed. Great sounding amp too. Hats off to you.
@kissyxander Thanks. You need the right amp for Peter Green tones too, if you watch all the available YouTube videos of him playing you only see Fender amps that use 6L6 power tubes. Michael Bloomfield also used Fender 6L6 powered amps, my Vibrolux fits right in that groove.
@JakeHoyle92 Yes its a Stellar. Its not a bad guitar for the money, I'm not sure they're making them like this one anymore. You really need to removed the pickups and the complete wiring harness because they are all very substandard garbage. I have completely rewired mine to authentic 50's wiring with NOS bee caps, new pots, the whole deal. Any VL PAF set needs a 50's repro harness to go into, no matter how expensive your guitar is, the harness is part of the tone too....
@Slammintone Yes you could. You might also take a look at the VL59JP set, as it is somewhat similar and designed with similar hot wind but neck is purposed for playing the right way around with really nice clarity for a hot neck....
@blackjerryboymetal You need to do better research ;-) He never flipped the magnet but the magnet IS flipped. Buy the Les Paul Handbook by Paul Balmer. Joel Dantzig founder of Hamer guitars took the pickups out of their cavities and found the neck pickup magnetic polarity IS backwards. This is documented and photographed in the book. Few pickup makers know this. Turning a pickup backwards does not change phase, try it. Some PAF's accidentally had flipped magnets, not uncommon at all...
Yes and no. He is known for the out of phase tone but he also played the bridge and neck pickup just as much. Find the YouTube video "Man of the World" with Peter Green, he plays only the bridge. Many songs he recorded he never uses the out of phase position at all...
thats some great tone!!! Have you done any more mods to the amp besides blackface it, because ive never heard a fender amp produce that amount of a gain while still producing smooth compression and saturation.
That amp has a real blackface power transformer in it. Yes, I did two easy mods to do. I installed a vibrato disconnect switch which adds a touch of gain, and installed in the back a negative feedback loop switch which adds a touch of treble gain. These are real easy mods to do and really bring the amps alive at lower volume.
Your Vintage Lab PAF pickups are, hands-down, the best PAF-style pickups available. Deep tight bottom end, complex gnarly mids and a liquid top end that extends way up but never gets piercing.
People - these pickups are the real deal, vintage correct PAF tone you always hoped to find. Get em while you can...
The intro song is me playing over a jam track, the pickups are the Dirty Harry pickups in an Artcore Ibanez archtop. I tried to use some Peter Green solos in the into song but YouTube wouldn't let me due to copyrights You can't have my iPod, sorry :-)
Yeah, modern players basically don't like accurate PAF tone much and prefer darker more modern tones. I"ve done some blind audio tests and seldom do players choose real PAFs in a shootout :-) Thats our puppy sheltie, his name is Jazz, he rocks!
Introducing the new VL-PG set, 8.6K bridge, 8.2K neck, both alnico 2. Shown with flipped magnet and pickup turned around like Peter's. I listened heavily to Peter Green and Gary Moore, both playing that out of phase guitar. I did side by side recordings with that guitar to assure I was nailing it. Email me if you want to hear those audio files. Thanks,
so if you've flipped the magnet and then installed the pickup backwards, it's lamost back in phase, right? have you wired it out of phase as well, or not?
No. If you flip the magnet the pickups will be out of phase no matter which direction the pickup is facing. With the neck pickup having the screws face the bridge, the brighter slug coil is hearing the strings closer to the neck, so you get a noticeably different tone by itself. You can wire the pickups out of phase but it won't sound quite the same.
hey dave. do you know anything about what string gauges he used?
fmilktoast 1 month ago
@fmilktoast No, I wish I did, string gauge is really important in figuring out what an artist's tone was. For example, early Page, he used 8 gauge which is critical to nailing his sound. Bloomfield surprisingly used very heavy strings like 12's or even 13's. If you find out let me know.
SDPickups 3 weeks ago
As a lifetime PG fan, you may not have captured the playing quality (no criticism, few ever have) but boy you have the guitar tone nailed. Great sounding amp too. Hats off to you.
kissyxander 3 months ago
@kissyxander Thanks. You need the right amp for Peter Green tones too, if you watch all the available YouTube videos of him playing you only see Fender amps that use 6L6 power tubes. Michael Bloomfield also used Fender 6L6 powered amps, my Vibrolux fits right in that groove.
SDPickups 3 months ago
Is that a Stellar guitar? If so, what is your opinion on it
JakeHoyle92 11 months ago
@JakeHoyle92 Yes its a Stellar. Its not a bad guitar for the money, I'm not sure they're making them like this one anymore. You really need to removed the pickups and the complete wiring harness because they are all very substandard garbage. I have completely rewired mine to authentic 50's wiring with NOS bee caps, new pots, the whole deal. Any VL PAF set needs a 50's repro harness to go into, no matter how expensive your guitar is, the harness is part of the tone too....
SDPickups 11 months ago
Can I get this set with the magnet flipped normally in the neck position, like a regular in phase set? I think they would be wonderful. Thanks!
Slammintone 1 year ago
@Slammintone Yes you could. You might also take a look at the VL59JP set, as it is somewhat similar and designed with similar hot wind but neck is purposed for playing the right way around with really nice clarity for a hot neck....
SDPickups 11 months ago
@blackjerryboymetal You need to do better research ;-) He never flipped the magnet but the magnet IS flipped. Buy the Les Paul Handbook by Paul Balmer. Joel Dantzig founder of Hamer guitars took the pickups out of their cavities and found the neck pickup magnetic polarity IS backwards. This is documented and photographed in the book. Few pickup makers know this. Turning a pickup backwards does not change phase, try it. Some PAF's accidentally had flipped magnets, not uncommon at all...
SDPickups 1 year ago
Correct me if im wrong, but didnt Green get his sound from the middle position?
deepblue1963 2 years ago
Yes and no. He is known for the out of phase tone but he also played the bridge and neck pickup just as much. Find the YouTube video "Man of the World" with Peter Green, he plays only the bridge. Many songs he recorded he never uses the out of phase position at all...
SDPickups 2 years ago
thats some great tone!!! Have you done any more mods to the amp besides blackface it, because ive never heard a fender amp produce that amount of a gain while still producing smooth compression and saturation.
fenderplayer757 2 years ago
That amp has a real blackface power transformer in it. Yes, I did two easy mods to do. I installed a vibrato disconnect switch which adds a touch of gain, and installed in the back a negative feedback loop switch which adds a touch of treble gain. These are real easy mods to do and really bring the amps alive at lower volume.
SDPickups 2 years ago
that middle position sounds insane. i cant wait for that damn t-top set.
fmilktoast 2 years ago
Hi Dave, Ive got my PG set on order with you, and hearing that, cant wait to get 'em!!!
John (England)
Gusdaq 2 years ago
More fabulous tone Mr S!
Your Vintage Lab PAF pickups are, hands-down, the best PAF-style pickups available. Deep tight bottom end, complex gnarly mids and a liquid top end that extends way up but never gets piercing.
People - these pickups are the real deal, vintage correct PAF tone you always hoped to find. Get em while you can...
BARKERDYLAN 2 years ago
what pickups are these
great sound by the way
kyle9371 2 years ago
so, what's next?
newking70 2 years ago
Whats next is the Vintage Lab TTop set coming soon. Also check out my video for the Vintage Lab P90 set now available.
SDPickups 2 years ago
what is the intro song?
id kill for your ipod
joeltothemax 3 years ago
The intro song is me playing over a jam track, the pickups are the Dirty Harry pickups in an Artcore Ibanez archtop. I tried to use some Peter Green solos in the into song but YouTube wouldn't let me due to copyrights You can't have my iPod, sorry :-)
SDPickups 3 years ago
Yeah, modern players basically don't like accurate PAF tone much and prefer darker more modern tones. I"ve done some blind audio tests and seldom do players choose real PAFs in a shootout :-) Thats our puppy sheltie, his name is Jazz, he rocks!
SDPickups 3 years ago
Sweet pickups! I like the regular PF Stars better, but these are nice too. I love the touch of the dog (lion) at the end, pretty funny! :)
soundmasterg 3 years ago
Introducing the new VL-PG set, 8.6K bridge, 8.2K neck, both alnico 2. Shown with flipped magnet and pickup turned around like Peter's. I listened heavily to Peter Green and Gary Moore, both playing that out of phase guitar. I did side by side recordings with that guitar to assure I was nailing it. Email me if you want to hear those audio files. Thanks,
Dave
SDPickups 3 years ago
so if you've flipped the magnet and then installed the pickup backwards, it's lamost back in phase, right? have you wired it out of phase as well, or not?
sounds awesome!
mistersnaredrum 2 years ago
No. If you flip the magnet the pickups will be out of phase no matter which direction the pickup is facing. With the neck pickup having the screws face the bridge, the brighter slug coil is hearing the strings closer to the neck, so you get a noticeably different tone by itself. You can wire the pickups out of phase but it won't sound quite the same.
SDPickups 2 years ago