this is good stuff. (i'm not an experienced swimmer). i'm doing the Ocean City Triathlon in open water on September 11, 2011 and hoping not to be fished-out.
@demonmik61790 thanks i need more inches in height and there is this w...helpogrowth.commmm that i ve been using for months and actually can notice the difference now.
Being a former water polo player, Dave Scott swims and teaches people to swim like one. We all know that a high elbow during the catch phase of your stroke is important, but a high elbow during the recovery phase of the stroke tends to flatten out all but the most flexible swimmers in the water, which promotes poor body position. Open freestyle puts your body in a much more natural position during the recovery, and allows the muscles of the back and shoulder to relax much more.
One of my Masters swimmers was browsing through you tube and came across this video, I am thankful that she asked me about this. I am going to agree with what Sumersdog has said.
I have swam maybe 12 years tops and been coaching for the last 3 years maybe and the things that I can see in your video are things that I would scream at for my kids, and adults. The zipper drill and the fingertip drag are quite essential in my area and those are the two drills that I go through with everyone.
@6a6s6d6f If he doesnt know how to swim how has he been a 6 time world champion in a ironman triathlon? That includes 3.8k of swimming....you honestly think you know better then him? Wheres your titles? Or your vids?
i was asked to "cust and 's' with my primary arm and another symeritrical s with the other to gain speed. would the quick catch be same as that... i see i flex my wrist and elbow to cust an S
answering the last two posts - these are drills, exaggerations to achieve a different feel or to achieve a different catch. Not necessarily the way we should swim all of the time but help achieve a specific skill. High swingers - works on shoulder rotation. keep swimming
I had the opportunity to run a 10k with Dave about a month ago at Trifest 09 in Tucson, AZ... He's an amazing guy. Very inspiring and personable despite all his successes. He really knows a ton about all 3 sports (obviously, he won Ironman Kona 6 times)
I just looked up Dave Scott and realized he grew up in Davis, CA and went to UCD, where I now am a student. I just swam in Hickey Pool yesterday for the first time in a couple months and am inspired to restart my swimming habits. This video and the others are great on detail and explanation to anyone, I'm so proud to be a student now at UCD and to know someone of this level is an alumnus!
I love all this stuff on drills. A variety of them really increase awareness of what promotes travel and feels good in the water, I find. After a year of 3-6 1 hr regular swimming workouts, I'm getting better all the time, thanks to drills. Only prob is pain in right shoulder at
night. What could I be doing wrong in pool? Which stroke most likely to induce shoulder injury? (I don't do butterfly yet).
alritedarlin: Pain the shoulder is a common affliction for swimmers, as Google will show you. It's easily fixed with a small adjustment in your technique. I believe you are pulling with your shoulder, instead of with your forearm. During the recovery, move the elbow up high and think of your forearm as a piece of jelly hanging limply. Experts will tell you more concisely, and drills were certainly help you through the thinking process.
I have been working on bi-lateral breathing, ie- head breating to the right and then the left. When I breath on my left side my stroke is less efficient. Is bi-lateral breathing important to becomming a great open water swimmer?
Any drill can be useful provided you understand it's value, know how to execute it properly, and are aware of unintended negative consequences. The "pause" drill can be useful, just be careful not to tighten the paused hand as it briefly hangs in the air or you'll lock up and become very mechanical. Keep the recovery hand very soft. "High swingers" is probably okay to induce a fluid, non-stop recovery. Emphasis on high elbows, rather than a flowing recovery, can cause a herky jerky recovery.
it's been 3 months I swim everyday, time myself on different distances and write what I do in the pool. I noticed an improvement in my times since I do less lengths but more drills. This is to say that also numbers can confirm that drills are VERY important
Hi, I coach at club level and noticed your comment on using fists. I have always understood that the use of fists is to promote the feeling of the hand and arm through the water. You should use the whole forearm to pull through the water and when you return to using the hand, you should really notice a difference in the catch and feel of the water.
If you want a drill for high elbow, try usine zip up's (also known as rib tickler)
thanks. I've progressed a lot since my last comment by using the pullbuoy, rubber band and kickboard and side swimming for body alignment and side kicking.
it's just a title, but I disagree that these are top 3 swim drills. granted I'm no coach or anything but I prefer others like zipper, fist, and using pull buoys. just my take, don't flame me :p...
i'm sorry, but i have to agree with fkordik, i've swum for 15 years and i've coached for 6 at a very high level, my top 3 drills would be:
1) finger skim
2) zip ups
3) catch ups/pull bouy with min strokes/length
what is the high arm recovery actually supposed to acheive? if you want the stroke to be most efficient you need your elbow higher than your arm at all times, i can understand the first two, but in my experience the biggest problem is reaching and getting high elbows.
Thanks for your comments, I am learning more with you guys to improve my children's technique. Actually, my training before was for a lifesaving/lifeguard hard techniques during my teenage time. I understand that it requires more realiable techniques to acquire more gliding speed for swimming competition.
thanks for the critical analysis of the ins and outs of the method shown in the video. Comments like these are much appreciated and better received than those slandering without pinpointing the wrongs. Constructive criticism is better for its educated and intellectual quality for those new swimmers who search for literature on the subject. Sometimes things we read in books dont realy help as much as these comments. thanks again Smudgersdog. If ever would you post a video comment of the 3 exampls
I agree, high elbow allows you comparitively quicker recovery from the pull and you are ready for next pull again. Although the difference of time frame may be in nano seconds but even then it does count. Also high arm technique demands more loss of energy during the recovery period, which is a sure No No.
@Smudgersdog Yea...but that under the assumption that everyone swims best to one generic form....plus in open water racing high elbow isnt so important....Dave Scott isnt a swimmer as he is an ironman triathlete....its more important to be comfortably able to go over waves and chops in the water then keeping a high elbow...
Thanks a lot for uploading, I usually coach my children, boy 13yrs, girl 12yrs & girl 8yrs old & this video helps improve their techniques. By the way, my two elder children were the swimming champions in their school in elementary division. They are now in 2nd yr & 1st yr high school. God Bless!
you have been swimming for 12 years but what have you achieved!?! 12 years of non professional swimming will not teach you everything about the sport for you to just slander other people. If he doesnt know what he is talking about pls be kind enough to impart a few words of advice that wud help not only you bt all us readers as well bt if you dont have anything better to do with your time, make sure to wash your mouth after every talkshit session. thank yu n gud day!
The slow arm recovery really is a great great drill. The only thing that's still causing me trouble when doing it is the breathing. It's hard to combing the breathing with the hesitation of the arm.
Actually, if you look at slo-mo of Popov, Hackett, or Thorpe swimming, what you'll see is a quick catch and pull initiated a little after the recovery hand has passed the head, along with good shoulder and arm rotation. This is precisely the technique that Dave's drills, presented here, help you develop. The fact that chain & pretext don't understand this probably explains why the two of them put together have won 6 fewer Ironman World Championships than Dave Scott. Ahem...
I just learned how to swim and this really helped. I went from barely being able to do one lap to ten just by practicing what this video shows. Pretexter, you don't know what you're talking about! This is great!
These are terrible drills. Don't emphasize poor recovery. What else are you doing? High wrists? bad recovery timing? How does any of that help? Quick catch isn't a bad idea, but what is the drill? Just to bend your elbow and talk to yourself? The bending should just be part of your stroke, not a drill.
Thank you for this video, great help with coaching my squad.
imaginesimple 2 months ago
wala ko kabalo ani
sfrance783 3 months ago
good job
UruguayCanciones 5 months ago
this is good stuff. (i'm not an experienced swimmer). i'm doing the Ocean City Triathlon in open water on September 11, 2011 and hoping not to be fished-out.
nopainogain 6 months ago
Seems like a cool guy. I have the feeling my form is not very good so hopefully this will help.
1McMurph 8 months ago
Did one of Dave's clinics in the early 90s. A superb athlete, of course, but also a great instructor. I still remember many of his tips.
pignonefisso 8 months ago
this video is a god damn lie'
jordanpowell98 1 year ago
i like swim
thanks 4 the video, i want to learn that tricks and another tricks
botax117 1 year ago
swing... swing... swing...
i like to swim
botax117 1 year ago
Thank you. I am going to use them in my drills. Thank you so much for recording this video. Thanks for teaching me.
edu816 1 year ago
I love this song. It's really good ;) ..just downloaded it from downloadmusic.im
santinasiford05 1 year ago
i want this guy as a coach! :)
J1N50KU 1 year ago 3
swimming would help you grow taller ?
TheLeilisa 1 year ago 20
@TheLeilisa i think it would but not just swimming but training every day. you must be on your growing ages though.
demonmik61790 11 months ago
@demonmik61790 thanks i need more inches in height and there is this w...helpogrowth.commmm that i ve been using for months and actually can notice the difference now.
TheLeilisa 11 months ago
@TheLeilisa swimming is one of the best exercise it works out every muscles in your body
Bloo479 10 months ago
@Bloo479 does it helps with your penis also?
Meowws 9 months ago
thanks for nice drills to work on(:!
Rockstar4312 1 year ago
it really helpfull i watch this video cause im not good in swiming but im doing duathralon tomorrow so yeah
poem803 1 year ago
@poem803 whats a duathralon?
2557Hunter 1 year ago
it really helpfull
poem803 1 year ago
Being a former water polo player, Dave Scott swims and teaches people to swim like one. We all know that a high elbow during the catch phase of your stroke is important, but a high elbow during the recovery phase of the stroke tends to flatten out all but the most flexible swimmers in the water, which promotes poor body position. Open freestyle puts your body in a much more natural position during the recovery, and allows the muscles of the back and shoulder to relax much more.
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EffortlessSwimming 1 year ago
One of my Masters swimmers was browsing through you tube and came across this video, I am thankful that she asked me about this. I am going to agree with what Sumersdog has said.
I have swam maybe 12 years tops and been coaching for the last 3 years maybe and the things that I can see in your video are things that I would scream at for my kids, and adults. The zipper drill and the fingertip drag are quite essential in my area and those are the two drills that I go through with everyone.
ruthere89 1 year ago
i so many swimming video on swim-video.ru
PistoGanza 1 year ago
This is the best way to be a nice swimmer!
melissajjoa 1 year ago
thanks for the video, this is helpful
bud8883 1 year ago
im sorry but this guy clearly doesnt know how to swim
his technique on land is garbage
6a6s6d6f 1 year ago
@6a6s6d6f If he doesnt know how to swim how has he been a 6 time world champion in a ironman triathlon? That includes 3.8k of swimming....you honestly think you know better then him? Wheres your titles? Or your vids?
percdann 1 year ago
good coaching tips cheers :)
helen21211 1 year ago
i was asked to "cust and 's' with my primary arm and another symeritrical s with the other to gain speed. would the quick catch be same as that... i see i flex my wrist and elbow to cust an S
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Wow, I do'nt take the idea next time in the swimming pool and feel this way!
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ServiceFacebookWG 1 year ago
i love it
swimmer887 1 year ago
High Swingers ???????????????
WerteR97 2 years ago
Thank you, great tips
mrrrxxxxx 2 years ago
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favorietemuziek 2 years ago
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dialmformergency 2 years ago
i thought the fingers should drag along water, not high swinger as he taught. what the conflict in here?
travisdt 2 years ago
answering the last two posts - these are drills, exaggerations to achieve a different feel or to achieve a different catch. Not necessarily the way we should swim all of the time but help achieve a specific skill. High swingers - works on shoulder rotation. keep swimming
oldschoolleftie 2 years ago
the conflict here is you think you know more than Dave Scott. Stop thinking so much and listen.
crwnikeboy 2 years ago
@travisdt
you will find conflicts between all coaches as stroke technique is not an exact science....comes down to what works/feels right to you
Oztrigger5 2 years ago
@Oztrigger5 exactly
little33mermaid 1 year ago
Thanks for the great video. Do these drills apply to both racing and long distance swims?
dmdml 2 years ago
well, nothing new. But al three are good drills
HerbofHell 2 years ago
wow i been swimming wrong this whole time no wonder im slow....
rayd408 2 years ago
nice to hear something bout swimming.
Acko077 2 years ago 11
I had the opportunity to run a 10k with Dave about a month ago at Trifest 09 in Tucson, AZ... He's an amazing guy. Very inspiring and personable despite all his successes. He really knows a ton about all 3 sports (obviously, he won Ironman Kona 6 times)
jtigerwoods 2 years ago
I just looked up Dave Scott and realized he grew up in Davis, CA and went to UCD, where I now am a student. I just swam in Hickey Pool yesterday for the first time in a couple months and am inspired to restart my swimming habits. This video and the others are great on detail and explanation to anyone, I'm so proud to be a student now at UCD and to know someone of this level is an alumnus!
Jess101115 2 years ago
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GreatFafu74 2 years ago
I love all this stuff on drills. A variety of them really increase awareness of what promotes travel and feels good in the water, I find. After a year of 3-6 1 hr regular swimming workouts, I'm getting better all the time, thanks to drills. Only prob is pain in right shoulder at
night. What could I be doing wrong in pool? Which stroke most likely to induce shoulder injury? (I don't do butterfly yet).
alritedarlin 2 years ago
alritedarlin: Pain the shoulder is a common affliction for swimmers, as Google will show you. It's easily fixed with a small adjustment in your technique. I believe you are pulling with your shoulder, instead of with your forearm. During the recovery, move the elbow up high and think of your forearm as a piece of jelly hanging limply. Experts will tell you more concisely, and drills were certainly help you through the thinking process.
dgdevil 2 years ago
I have been working on bi-lateral breathing, ie- head breating to the right and then the left. When I breath on my left side my stroke is less efficient. Is bi-lateral breathing important to becomming a great open water swimmer?
fightfan101a 3 years ago
Any drill can be useful provided you understand it's value, know how to execute it properly, and are aware of unintended negative consequences. The "pause" drill can be useful, just be careful not to tighten the paused hand as it briefly hangs in the air or you'll lock up and become very mechanical. Keep the recovery hand very soft. "High swingers" is probably okay to induce a fluid, non-stop recovery. Emphasis on high elbows, rather than a flowing recovery, can cause a herky jerky recovery.
StrokeDoctorSwims 3 years ago
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ghiz8 3 years ago
hesitate... and pull!:)
clubindahol 3 years ago
Great, thanks !
I'll look pretty ridiculous tomorrow in the pool but who cares ?
BlickBirry 3 years ago 2
it's been 3 months I swim everyday, time myself on different distances and write what I do in the pool. I noticed an improvement in my times since I do less lengths but more drills. This is to say that also numbers can confirm that drills are VERY important
giorgiobello1 3 years ago
i found this v good
deepdeep46 3 years ago
I've started to swim "seriously" 2 months ago (1-2hrs a day, 2-3km) and I think the drills that really helped me improve a lot are:
1) catch-up (it helped me concentrate against overeaching)
2) fist (for high elbow)
3) one-arm (better feel with the water)
giorgiobello1 3 years ago
Hi, I coach at club level and noticed your comment on using fists. I have always understood that the use of fists is to promote the feeling of the hand and arm through the water. You should use the whole forearm to pull through the water and when you return to using the hand, you should really notice a difference in the catch and feel of the water.
If you want a drill for high elbow, try usine zip up's (also known as rib tickler)
Hope this is of use.
Edinguy1973 3 years ago
thanks. I've progressed a lot since my last comment by using the pullbuoy, rubber band and kickboard and side swimming for body alignment and side kicking.
Let me know if you happen to come to London ;)
ciao scottish!
giorgiobello1 3 years ago
it's just a title, but I disagree that these are top 3 swim drills. granted I'm no coach or anything but I prefer others like zipper, fist, and using pull buoys. just my take, don't flame me :p...
Cliffycliffz 3 years ago
i'm sorry, but i have to agree with fkordik, i've swum for 15 years and i've coached for 6 at a very high level, my top 3 drills would be:
1) finger skim
2) zip ups
3) catch ups/pull bouy with min strokes/length
what is the high arm recovery actually supposed to acheive? if you want the stroke to be most efficient you need your elbow higher than your arm at all times, i can understand the first two, but in my experience the biggest problem is reaching and getting high elbows.
Smudgersdog 3 years ago 2
Thanks for your comments, I am learning more with you guys to improve my children's technique. Actually, my training before was for a lifesaving/lifeguard hard techniques during my teenage time. I understand that it requires more realiable techniques to acquire more gliding speed for swimming competition.
aqbjr 3 years ago
thanks for the critical analysis of the ins and outs of the method shown in the video. Comments like these are much appreciated and better received than those slandering without pinpointing the wrongs. Constructive criticism is better for its educated and intellectual quality for those new swimmers who search for literature on the subject. Sometimes things we read in books dont realy help as much as these comments. thanks again Smudgersdog. If ever would you post a video comment of the 3 exampls
dorifto711 3 years ago
I agree, high elbow allows you comparitively quicker recovery from the pull and you are ready for next pull again. Although the difference of time frame may be in nano seconds but even then it does count. Also high arm technique demands more loss of energy during the recovery period, which is a sure No No.
BetaBilloo 3 years ago
@Smudgersdog Yea...but that under the assumption that everyone swims best to one generic form....plus in open water racing high elbow isnt so important....Dave Scott isnt a swimmer as he is an ironman triathlete....its more important to be comfortably able to go over waves and chops in the water then keeping a high elbow...
percdann 1 year ago 2
Thanks a lot for uploading, I usually coach my children, boy 13yrs, girl 12yrs & girl 8yrs old & this video helps improve their techniques. By the way, my two elder children were the swimming champions in their school in elementary division. They are now in 2nd yr & 1st yr high school. God Bless!
aqbjr 3 years ago
fkordik,
It is not the amount of time you wasted.
It is how much you learned that counts.
Twelve years (lost) and you did not learn even good manners...
paulotakeda 3 years ago
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I`ve been swimming for 12 years. This guy has no idea what he`s talking about...
fkordic 3 years ago
Have you ever coached? How old are you? How does Dave have no idea?
joepackfan 3 years ago 3
you have been swimming for 12 years but what have you achieved!?! 12 years of non professional swimming will not teach you everything about the sport for you to just slander other people. If he doesnt know what he is talking about pls be kind enough to impart a few words of advice that wud help not only you bt all us readers as well bt if you dont have anything better to do with your time, make sure to wash your mouth after every talkshit session. thank yu n gud day!
dorifto711 3 years ago
he probley does some kind of recreational swimming and think thats real swimming lol thats what fkordic achieved lol
WarGodKills 3 years ago
You do know he is the ironman world champion dont you? I think he must know a little bit about swimming to achieve that?
theeds123 3 years ago
Nice Video. Thank you so much.. Do you have any Dvd or anything else that can teach how to swim?
pakihaider 3 years ago
how many laps of each do u do?
Cramdilaram 3 years ago
The slow arm recovery really is a great great drill. The only thing that's still causing me trouble when doing it is the breathing. It's hard to combing the breathing with the hesitation of the arm.
Bzzzpuk 3 years ago
thanks alot man...for me ..i really liked the last one bcause it helps me so much..keep it going, i'm learning from you so much
souperbian 3 years ago
I work as a lifeguard and my technique was pretty poor...been practicing with these techniques and can already feel an improvemnt...thanks :)
steviebhoy1981 3 years ago
Once again, you helped me using these drills. Thanks again.
pianogirlrocks123 3 years ago
Actually, if you look at slo-mo of Popov, Hackett, or Thorpe swimming, what you'll see is a quick catch and pull initiated a little after the recovery hand has passed the head, along with good shoulder and arm rotation. This is precisely the technique that Dave's drills, presented here, help you develop. The fact that chain & pretext don't understand this probably explains why the two of them put together have won 6 fewer Ironman World Championships than Dave Scott. Ahem...
zamboana 3 years ago
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does this guy ever change his clothes haha
TalkingTears 3 years ago
thabks i would try it
elevengiant 3 years ago
I just learned how to swim and this really helped. I went from barely being able to do one lap to ten just by practicing what this video shows. Pretexter, you don't know what you're talking about! This is great!
amackitty 3 years ago 2
I agree with pretexter on this one. If you want to swim better, look at the Popov swimming- techniques.
CHAINGANG19 4 years ago
Very good as well with my disabilities.
1JustJazz 4 years ago
These are terrible drills. Don't emphasize poor recovery. What else are you doing? High wrists? bad recovery timing? How does any of that help? Quick catch isn't a bad idea, but what is the drill? Just to bend your elbow and talk to yourself? The bending should just be part of your stroke, not a drill.
pretexter 4 years ago
i dont see u winning 6 times? Do i?
sameerazad 3 years ago
Have ya won 6 ironmans? to me these techniques are basic stuff and he's teaching em' very well.
juandi2570 3 years ago 3
Brilliant, thanks.
monkeynut100 4 years ago
Awesome!
htorres1978 4 years ago
very helpful, glad i found you1
LenStaffa 4 years ago
wtf you showed 1 and it ddin't breath
ISm3xy 4 years ago
The Coach is very helpful.
musiclover1958 4 years ago 2
A video that helps with my problems on the freestyle stroke.
vwongboi 4 years ago