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  • Well....  Everyone will see one day.. ITS REAL....

  • darwin is reality.

    jesus is fiction.

    evolution won.

  • Typical far-left libtarded brainwashing propaganda.

  • @ClaimAmerica4Christ With evidence... You know, that thing that you apparently don't understand.

  • @Acecool444

    So you dismiss evolution because it hasn't been 100 percent beyond all possible doubt.

    But you accept creationism because it is mentioned in a 2000 year old book even though it has absolutely no evidence to support it.

    And you expect to be taken seriously?

  • @DreddDwarf You've got way too much time on your hands idiot, Get a life!

  • @Acecool444

    That took me less than a minute to write.

    Religion, for when thinking is way too difficult.

  • @DreddDwarf Both your comments are merely based on assumptions and antagonistic ridicule.Your coming back here to defend yourself and explaining how long it took you to write something only illustrates one thing! You are more an idiot than I took you for.

    btw, psychological or mental grading is not assuming or antagonistic if it's based on fact. Now do as Daddy told you, get a life moron!

  • @Acecool444

    I disagree.

  • cute girl

  • don't let anyone fool you into thinking the earth is 6000 years old all you need to do is look at the night sky and look at the stars and see light that was created billions of year ago

  • MAN is still discovering what GOD has created. To base your beliefs on scientific theory of evolution is like saying you trust the food on the grocery store shelves. "I am not a crook."

  • What is wrong with you people, both sides are full of it, to date there is

    NO CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE THAT PROVES EVOLUTION OR INTELLIGENT DESIGN.

    What we really need to understand, simply, is to learn how to have with one another.

    This bitter fight is so wrong, it's not like we can up and go live on another planet.

  • @bobbyboucher001 what are you kidding me? every aspect of Evolution has been observed, recorded, and proven.

    conclusive evidence? what is this CSI? we know that evolutionary change between species occurs

  • @bobbyboucher001 Well, there is that pesky DNA evidence...and those fossils...and that whole observed mutations stuff... But I suppose if you ignore all that, then there would be no conclusive evidence... So... You're right...As long as everyone is okay with just ignoring everything.

  • @evilgenius2003 There is no DNA evidence that provides the missing links, yes that's plural. Meaning there is more that one piece missing. In fact there are multiple pieces missing. You people are just like the god sayers. You have some evidence of a theory and it's absolute!! Dumb ass. Even Darwin admitted his theory was flawed. So what do you do...hey everybody this is it, it's the only way.....DUMB ASS

  • @bobbyboucher001 I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were scientifically illiterate. The DNA evidence I'm talking about is molecular phylogenetics, most likely over your head, but neat. 1,2,3, ,5,6.. What's the missing number? The fossil record doesn't have to be complete to draw a conclusion. Oh, and there is that whole actually seeing evolution today thing, like nylon-eating bacteria. The scientific use of the word theory is different than how you would use it. A scientific theory ..cont...

  • @bobbyboucher001 Is an attempt to explain observed facts. The theory of gravity for example is an attempt to explain the cause of gravity. Gravity itself is fact. It's the same with evolution. On Darwin, he died in 1882. You think maybe we have access to a little more information than he did? A more complete fossil record? Genetics? Evolution happens. That is a fact. As for the theory, if you have a better explanation than Darwin you could win yourself a Nobel prize. But..You're a moron

  • @evilgenius2003 Hey thanks evil, the one thing I can tell you is I'm not a moron, but a real shit disturber...hehe

    the FACT you even replied ...Pesky DNA hahaha good one.....can ya hear the fly wheel spinning....zzzzzz lol

    Be good to your self brother.

  • @bobbyboucher001 Well then.... touche'

  • That edit failure is the epitome of "epic fail". Their entire belief argument was based on a lazy and a failed use of science applied through engineering, in this case, software. Maybe creationists should stick to their book and stop relying on any science to "help" them. I wonder, would have god made that mistake? lulz

  • Evolution is still only a theory, officially.

  • @gimbledink7227 so is gravity

  • @UnstableNinja The real debate is that evolution is an atheist point of view, and most Christians are getting tired of someone else's beliefs being pushed on us. I know what has been done in Jesus' name in the past. Two wrongs still don't make a right, though.

  • @gimbledink7227 so, any scientific theory that contradicts your religion is dismissed as an "atheist point of view"?

  • @UnstableNinja Anything that points away from God is atheistic by it's own nature.

  • @gimbledink7227 so what do you say to christians who accept evolution?

  • @UnstableNinja the same thing i say to atheists who accept evolution.

  • @gimbledink7227 so you can accept science that doesnt cross your perception of religion, claiming that even other religious people must be wrong, because you are obviously in sole possession of the truth of the universe.

    also, by "someone else's beliefs pushed on us", i suppose you mean evolution being pushed in school. the fact is, if you want to teach your child religion, that is your right and its fine, BUT in a state sponsored school, they need to teach science, not your superstitious bs.

  • @UnstableNinja Why is a state sponsored school preaching the religion of atheism? Don't we have separation of church and state?

  • @gimbledink7227 atheism isnt a religion. if you cant grasp something as basic as that, then dont worry about evolution, its far too complex for you

  • @UnstableNinja If atheism isn't a religion, then why do so many people get so pushy with it? If you really believe that there is no God, then why do you care if anyone else does? Why do atheists attempt to propagate their beliefs just like every other religion? If you can't grasp the simple fact that proclaiming a lack of faith is by definition a religion, then perhaps God is too complex for you.

  • @gimbledink7227 hm? i wonder why i would care if someone would believe in god. i had a reason...lets see, what was it? oh yeah

    BECAUSE I LIVE IN A COUNTRY WHERE 87 PERCENT OF THE POPULATION IS CHRISTIAN.

    and because of that, they try to put things like "creation science" in school, put god on the money and pledge, and stuff like that. i speak out about atheism because i want to protect the separation of church and state, and stop people like you from censoring true science from children.

  • @UnstableNinja if this country was 87 percent christian, there would be almost no crime. you just lost all credibility for me. troll all you want, I'm done.

  • @gimbledink7227 i figured you were ignorant, but not THAT ignorant. if you think the reason that crime is high is because there is an atheist/other religion minority, then it proves how stupid you really are.

  • @UnstableNinja I live in a country where 87% of the population don't care..hahaHa

  • @gimbledink7227 also, atheism is saying, "i dont see enough reason to believe in god." how is that a religion? some bug atheists (dawkins, hitchens) might make you think that it is like a religion, but that is a wrong. atheists dont have any set rules or laws like religion does. being an atheist doesnt mean you believe in evolution, the big bang, or anything like that. it just means you dont accept claims about god. atheism also doesnt run your life like religion does, you make your own choices.

  • @Mogley52 "Both sides should have the opportunity to present and rebut each other's scientific arguments."

    You are correct, "

    You are absolutely correct, but whose fault is it if the creationists have never come up with even one scientific argument worth even considering and absolutely none have ever gone through peer review?

    I don't believe 200.000 peer reviews scientific documents because it doesn't match holy book and It’s complicated so it must be supernatural are not a scientific argument.

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  • Oh wow. Why don't these Christians just write up ID and put it up for peer review to prove it's valid.

    Oh wait, they have.. and it failed!

  • Cdesign proponentsists: the evolutionary transitional species between creationists & intelligence design proponents.

  • 89 people belive in talking snakes, unicorns, and giants.

  • Pandas and People is indeed just a reworked "Creation Science" super-tract re-labled as I.D. to get past the USSC ruling. Actual I.D. theory, however, is not "Creation Science" re-labled. Actual I.D. theory, however, has little to say about the origin of species (save the idea that evolutionary processes are part of the design) but is rooted in Cosmology, Abiogenesis, and Statistics. Debunking Panda's and People does not debunk the I.D. hypothesis.

  • @nothingmemorable A hypothesis must be falsifiable. So tell me, what exactly is the ID hypothesis and how do you test it?

  • @jacksawild A hypothesis is just a proposed explanation of a phenomenon. Your'e describing a working scientific hypothesis. I grant you ID is more philosophy (metaphysics) than hard physical sciences: it makes inferences from physics that go beyond what physical instruments can verify. But ID indeed made the most fundamental contribution to science ever: that a designed universe would work on universal principles that can be modeled mathematically. That's why Science began in Christian Europe.

  • Why might as well not teach science at all in our schools, since God is behind everything.

    Professor Creationist Hick to the classroom: Any of you children know why the sun is hot?

    Timmy the smart one answers: The sun is a giant nuclear reactor, fusing hydrogen into helium!

    Professor Hick says: Nope!

    Bristol the horny dits says: God made it hot because God wants us not to freeze to death!

    Professor Hick says: Exactly! You see children, science gets in the way of the truth. Damn atheist!

  • @raybanfandom Well, we know who's sucking up that teacher. I meant "to that teacher."

  • Find: "reation"; Replace: "design proponents".

  • What happens when you die? Have you told lies, stolen, used God's name in vain(10 Commandments)? If yes, then you're a liar, thief, and a blasphemer in the sight of God. When you die & be judged by God, you'll be guilty of sin, & go to Hell! But God sent His Son Jesus to shed His blood & die on a cross for your sins, He was buried & rose again from the dead on the third day. If you'll believe the Gospel(Jesus's death for your sins, His burial & resurrection)you'll not perish & have eternal life

  • @gramosjr7 prove it.

    

  • @gramosjr7 And you're testable, peer reviewed evidence, and the Bible is not usable, for this claim is?

  • seriously if something has been proven then a guess is un needed

  • Creationist types who want the stuff taught in schools and not in churches are such miserable failures in life.

  • you filthy atheists know in your heart, that cdesign ism is just as scientifically valid as evolutionism, physics, chemistry, astrology, quantum theory or homeopathy. and you know in your heart that you'll be going to HELL for pushing it out of the classroom. we cdesign proponentsists will prevail!!!

  • @truelazerlight

    I know something is wrong with the world when I would've taken your post seriously if you didn't say cdesign proponentsists. =)

  • Am I just getting old or does Anne Holden appear to not possibly be old enough to hold a PhD?

  • @StevenBee2

    that'll be getting old! She's very smart and rather hot, but I'd sound like a dirty old man if I said that...Doh!

  • @lozman67 I'm twenty, so I'll say it for you. I love an intelligent, good looking ladies, like her.

  • @HimesInu I love it that you share an account - sooo many arguments!!..X

  • So?

    

  • cdesign proponentsists! LMAO!

    And here I thought Creationism couldn't be more fail!

  • @June28July LOL tell me about it! XD

  • @June28July

    that's literally a transitional form ;)

    they said that in the nova program, or the horizon one....they were both abot the dover case

  • religious or no, it's all speculation really

  • 2:18 ... if that was to happen on DNA, it would be called insertion mutation :D

    Science bitches !! it works

  • I think we should just preach about evolution in churches and call it 'design through nature" or something... we can even create our own version of the bible to back it up, lol

  • HOW DARE THEY FORCE GOD INTO IMPRESSIONABLE YOUNG KID"S MINDS!!

    THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE: BAN GOD FROM AMERICA NOW!

    TEACH HOMOSEXUALITY, NOT HOMOPHOBIA!

    DEMAND GAY RIGHTS, LEGALIZE SAME-SEX MARRIAGE NATIONWIDE!

    DAMN, SO MANY FUCKING THINGS TO DO, SO LITTLE TIME BEFORE IT ALL GOES TO SHIT.

    WE'RE SO CLOSE TO OUR GODLESS UTOPIA, ONLY TO HAVE FUNDYS FORCE IT BACK IN...

    FIGHT OBAMA'S PSEUDO-RELIGIOUS EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM OR FOREVER LOSE OUR FREEDOM TO THINK.

    AND WHILE I'M AT IT, FUCK HIS ISLAM FAITH TOO!!

  • @GayWorldOrder totally dude, legalize same sex marriage, teach acceptance and anti-bullying, and keep religion out of the schools. right on!

  • @GayWorldOrder wow gayworld, you seem like an angry child. Do you thinking typing in caps lock makes you seem more credible or something? Why should we demand gay rights..do you demand womens rights? or black rights? or immigrants rights?

    Oh I see, we should support your life style, but not those you personally dislike.

    "godless utopia"....lol..we didn't need "god" to wipe out millions of jews, or Stalin's forced famine...

    and we don't need one now.

  • Once again, for those who don't like being misled by "Court Ordered" rulings on Evolution without a side by side education of facts behind creationism, or just not 100% convinced, I highly suggest you research the extensive study on creation vs evolution in order to make your own evaluation of truth vs deception. You are only doing yourselves a disservice by not watching:

    Creation Seminar 4 - Kent Hovind - Lies In The Textbooks (FULL)

    watch?v=b8GgrUposII&feature=ch­­annel_video_title

  • @Acecool444 Yeah, I doubt anyone should listen to someone who refuses pay their taxes and is currently in prison. On top of that you say "Do your own research" and then proceed to cite Kent Hovind of all people.

  • @MarlingTheDruid If you believe that Kent Hovind's public speaking ministry abused his right as a non profit organization, or Willie Nelson etc, and that the U.S. Government and I.R.S. are exempt from defrauding the citizens of the United States, that is your right. However, that has nothing to do with the evidence Kent Hovind presents against evolution. That would be like me telling the world, nothing you say is to be trusted because you were wrongfully convicted of a crime. Poor Analogy!

  • @Acecool444 Actually he didn't pay tax on his "Dinosaur Adventure Land." Last time I checked that isn't a ministry. It's also for profit, or don't you understand the principle of business? He also shows a poor understanding of evolution or even the scientific process.

  • @MarlingTheDruid "He also shows a poor understanding of evolution or even the scientific process."

    Well then, it should be easy for you to prove the "Theory" of evolution......

    "According to Hovind's website, he has offered $10,000 since 1990 to those who can "prove the theory of evolution."He has since raised the amount of the reward to $250,000"

    Let me know what your going to do with all that money ;)

  • @Acecool444 Hovind is a complete fraud. He's not a Christian believer - he's a conman of the worst kind and is currently doing time. I guess he views that more as an occupational hazard than the consequence of sin. Anyway, screw all you Creationists (real or pretend). Evolution is a fact. The proof lies in the fact that every single scientific discipline that has been brought to bear on the issue has produced results consistent with evolutionary theory. The real challenge...(CONT)

  • @Acecool444 ...is to offer just one scrap of concrete evidence that contradicts the evidence that has been accumulated over 150+ years. If you do that, you got yourself a game. Unfortunately, for all you nutjobs out there who think the universe was made with just you in mind, there is no such evidence. Evolution is a fact. get over it!

  • @Acecool444 Just so you know, multiple scientists have come to him with evidence but only to find Hovind changing the rules and expressing that it doesn't meet his specific and changing standard, which is based on personal opinion and not based on any kind of real science.

    It's easy to offer money when you know you're just going to change the rules when someone gets it right

    Btw, there are several $1,000,000 prizes to anyone that can prove the existence of a god or the supernatural.

    Good luck!

  • @Acecool444

    It's proven. He just doesn't accept the proofs. He's like the timecube guy.

    The only thing Hovind would accept as proof is if the Bible said evolution was true.

  • @MarlingTheDruid

    Here's the definition: Theory

    A scientific theory summarizes a hypothesis or group of hypotheses that have been supported with repeated testing. A theory is valid as long as there is no evidence to dispute it. Therefore, theories can be disproven. Basically, if evidence accumulates to support a hypothesis, then the hypothesis can become accepted as a good explanation of a phenomenon. One definition of a theory is to say it's an accepted hypothesis.

  • @MarlingTheDruid

    Now compare to Scientific LAW:

    This is a statement of fact meant to explain, in concise terms, an action or set of actions. It is generally accepted to be true and universal, and can sometimes be expressed in terms of a single mathematical equation. Scientific laws are similar to mathematical postulates. They don't really need any complex external proofs; they are accepted at face value based upon the fact that they have always been observed to be true.

  • @MarlingTheDruid No kiddo, no one should listen to a creationist because it's pretty likely that they do not have scientific facts. What you stated is ad hominem...they work great in politics, but not in the scientific community.

  • @ncPsychosis I'm confused. In my posts I stated that Kent Hovind is an idiot and a fraud. A convicted fraud. By extension I was saying nobody should listen to him just as they shouldn't listen business ideas from Charles Keating. Perhaps it's a new fundie technique to agree with a dissenter but I think you've simply confused my post with a post by another person. I'm writing this while I'm sleepy so if it comes off rude or I've simply misread your post, excuse me.

  • @Acecool444 ive seen it and it is a fucking joke.

  • @Acecool444

    So you believe that matter is made of condensed light?

    It is impossible to argue with anyone so utterly idiotic and so obviously delusional.

  • I would have posted more evidence of fossils being nothing more than of homo sapiens during the ice age (dimmed sunlight volcanic/meteoric cloud cover/lack of edible vegetation) with wides spread rickets, or how strikingly similar they are to Viking Fossils and Aborigine's, but the sound of the twat narrating this video is just too freaking irritating to visit anymore. Yeah, turned off the sound and vid, but once is enough, the rest is up to you fools to find the truth. I've done my job.

  • @Acecool444 i thought that twat was hott

  • @Acecool44

    Seriously, Hovind? Are you really promoting that fool as an example of evidence for creation. His views are ridiculous even when compared to most creationists.

  • Do you believe the U.S. Supreme Court has the right to deny you the evidence behind Creationism, yet dictate that proven false evolution is the only knowledge on how life began or "evolved" from the same ancestors as primates in our schools? How would you feel knowing there is evidence you are being misled?

    Think Outside of the Box! (The Box = False truths in journalism propagandized and indoctrinated by Secular Government and their co-conspirators).

    WATCH THE VIDEO link in my last comment!

  • @Acecool444 Holy shit that video is hilarious. EVERYONE GO WATCH THIS!!

  • @Acecool444 Just to let everyone know, Kent Hovind is now in federal prison for tax evation, he was heard arguing in court that the merchandise and sales tax he was suppose to pay "belong to God" adn thus cannot be taxed

    For those of you who rather not waste a couple of hours of your lives watching the vdeo recommanded by this idoit.

  • @powereater "For those of you who rather not waste a couple of hours of your lives watching the vdeo recommanded by this idoit."

    You must first learn to spell correctly before assuming another as an idiot!

    Tax Evasion on a non-profit organization was merely a conspiracy to persecute another man of God. Research "FEDERAL RESERVE", a private foreign banker organization which is in direct violation of our Constitution.

    Being charged with Tax Fraud hardly refutes the facts presented by Hovind.

  • Inconceivable that with so much proven evidence of God's existence, the agnostic/atheist use only the tools of science "theory" not yet completely formulated, still in it's infancy, with so much further to go in the discovery of where time, space, matter and all life from it's first creation began. But there are Clues: Look closely at the scientific discovery's of invisible energy smaller than molecular particles (i.e. electromagnetic, gravitational, Neutrino, Black Holes, etc,), Continued:

  • Cont:..You will find evidence of something much more complex that not even the theory of an evolved pre-existing physical life form could have created all this. As they too would have had to have been evolved from matter and a 1st living cell.

    Now add, the "Eternal" limitless boundaries of invisible space! The constant moving mass of galaxies and all the energy that co-exists to bind them all as if part of something much bigger (i.e. molecules forming mass).

  • To conclude, until science can come up with overwhelming empirical evidence formulated as a mathematical fact that cannot be refuted nor disputed and not defined only as "Theory" by the science community as a whole, none of their findings have yet proven in any way, that God in Fact Does not Exist!

    Til then, We can take off the blinders and see the depth of divine knowledge and wisdom that has been handed down to us by our faithful forefathers as inspired by the mind, body and spirit of God.

  • Biblical accounts foretold what has been discovered this past century. Signs of advanced intelligence that man could not have known on his own.

    Before the technologies of Science, biology, geography, astronomy, the Bible accurately gives accurate accounts to what Scientist have just recently (past couple hundred yrs) began to understand.

    Search! "SCIENTIFIC FACTS IN THE BIBLE"

    And even on a higher scale, for those who have the aptitude, Research:

    "THEOMATICS"

    "THEOMATICS PROVEN SOLIDLY"

  • @powereater

    Pay your illegal income taxes, you dumbass puppet.

  • For those of you who have a couple hours, and feel that you owe it to yourself to know the truth about Evolution being taught in our schools, I cannot stress enough, the importance of watching this narrative video on the lies perpetrated by false deceptive science.

    Creation Seminar 4 - Kent Hovind - Lies In The Textbooks (FULL)

    watch?v=b8GgrUposII&feature=ch­annel_video_title

    Beware of "Fools" who refute, twist and confuse what you will find as the simply obvious.

  • Thank God he let us ban his lies from our public schools.

  • I believe that not only evolution should be taught, but children of kindergarten age should already be taught logic, physics, and math as early as possible. The brain develops at an astounding rate during those years, so the earlier we expose them to hard science and rational and critical thought, the better. We won't be able to compete in the world if we don't.

  • EVEN ATHEIST LEADER RICHARD DAWKINS ADMITS THE POSSIBILITY OF INTELLIGENT DESIGN!

    DID RICHARD DAWKINS CONFESSES GOD's EXISTENCE?

    ?v=DSM3BpTrA88

    Best Video On YouTube!

    Ben sits there calmly, intelligently asking questions, Dawkins completely exasperated almost the entire time. Although he was doing his best to hide it.

    Made My Decade! w00t!!!

    DID RICHARD DAWKINS CONFESSES GOD's EXISTENCE?

    ?v=DSM3BpTrA88

    Ben stein talks about richard dawkins on glen beck.

    ?v=Cv8Vt9n0do8&feature=related

  • @Acecool444 You are wrong sir! You are also a troll (or just dumb)!

    Winning

    -C. Sheen

  • @Acecool444 You're part monkey just like the rest of us.

  • @plateofshrimp Sorry, But I'm just having a hard time thinking my great great Grand Daddy was a Chimpanzee, or bacteria or seeded from aliens from another planet. God is the Alien, but only alien to those who are closed minded and reprobate. EVOLUTIONARY THEORY is only "THEORY", I highly suggest you look up the definition. It is not a Formulated Science and at best, nothing more than fraud science promoted by the hierarchy of a cabol of satanic worshiper's widely known as The Illuminati.

  • @Acecool444 "EVOLUTIONARY THEORY is only "THEORY""

    How many times do we have to explain what the term "theory" means when used by a scientist? Even "Answers in Genesis" has this one listed as an invalid argument against Evolution.

    "But I'm just having a hard time thinking my great great Grand Daddy was a Chimpanzee,"

    I have NO trouble at all thinking that your great great grand daddy was a chimpanzee ;-)

  • « Definition of the word "THEORY" »

    In SCIENCE:

    A framework explaining some well-defined set of facts, consisting of facts, laws and hypotheses. An explanatory model. The word 'theory' in the context of science, as used in 'relativity theory', 'atomic theory', 'evolutionary theory' does NOT mean that the proposal is 'still conjectural'; it means that it is a testable and well supported explanatory model.

  • @XGralgrathor It all depends on the standard of proof. If there has not been found an absolute contradiction in the standard of proof, then the theory is correct until there is found a contradiction, i.e. the" sun will rise in the east". Also!The mathematical proof may be said to be absolute if it "perfectly" describes the theory. So far, It is easily refuted and only theory.

    Regardless of how many times you re-word the definition, easily debunked Evolutionary Theory is still only THEORY!

  • « If there has not been found an absolute contradiction »

    Kid, you are speaking nonsense. You probably have some idea what you're talking about, but you're trying to dress it up in order to make yourself sound 'educated'. Let's go back to basics: science, theory, evidence.

    - Science: a way of obtaining verifiable knowledge.

    - Hypothesis: testable claim.

    - Theory: explanatory model.

    - Evidence: observation supporting some hypothesis.

  • @XGralgrathor "The word 'theory' in the context of science, as used in 'relativity theory', 'atomic theory', 'evolutionary theory' "

    I can throw in more Scientific Theory's right along with the rest of your theory's, i.e. "Quantum Theory along with "Atomic Theory", but that doesn't make all of them absolute "mathematically formulated" discoveries either.

    Search "Relativity Theory Debunked" or "Equinox documentary, Einstein's Biggest Blunder"

    Evolutionary Theory = Paradigm Science

  • « but that doesn't make all of them absolute "mathematically formulated" discoveries either. »

    Which, again, is not required of a theory. Mathematical formulations are something found more often in laws than in theories. Theories are *frameworks* of hypotheses and laws. If you're seeking for the laws, the mathematical models, in evolution, then you might consider studying population genetics, specifically predicted genetic divergence under various circumstances.

  • @XGralgrathor All smoke n' mirrors. There is no concrete evidence for evolution. None what so ever! And yes, that's why it's Theory Only! And why is the Science Community so up in arms over being debunked? The real reason is, They stand to lose the huge amounts of Funding and Grants that keep them well fed. Not to mention all the jobs lost. If that's not bad enough, just take a good look at American Government, Bankers, Wall St. etc, etc,.

    Nothing more than modern day charlatans and heretics.

  • « All smoke n' mirrors »

    Too fucking easy, kid. You opened up your can of worms, and now you're going to bloody well *think* about what I'm saying without taking the easy - the creationist - way out.

  • « There is no concrete evidence for evolution »

    Wrong. Evolutionary THEORY, the explanatory model, makes some very specific predictions - observations that should logically follow if the model is accurate. Not a single fact in biology or palaeontology is inconsistent with those predictions.

  • « the preditions is just a point of view »

    No, they are consequences that are the logical result of the mechanisms being proposed. Eg. common descent logically results in nested hierarchies.

  • « that's why it's Theory Only! »

    And again it seems to be necessary to explain to you what science is, and what theories and hypotheses are, and what constitutes evidence. I really don't get how this 'just a theory!' slogan is so unthinkingly picked up by creationists - don't they get basic scientific principles in high school or something?

  • « And why is the Science Community so up in arms »

    Because most of those who are trying to debunk it (all of them, in fact) do so based on religious grounds, and use religious arguments, rather than scientific. And there's this little principle in science: you can't use religious arguments to address scientific findings. That's like trying to eat soup with a fork.

    « The real reason is »

    Yes, it's all one big global conspiracy. Don't forget to wear your tinfoil hat when you go outside.

  • @XGralgrathor I agree that the many confusing religions should stay out of public schools, as it would only cause chaos and confusion, unless taught as a philosophy. If the both Evolution and Intelligent Design could co-exist, as neither has the answer to what created the big bang, how matter, time, space, the first living complex cell, it would give our students a broader range to investigate the many possible answers on their own rather than force fed one doctrine as absolute.

  • « I agree that the many confusing religions should stay out of public schools »

    Not at all; I think that children *should* be tought about religions. At the very least they should learn about the main Abrahamic religions, Hinduism and Buddhism. But in comparative religion classes, not biology or physics classes.

  • « If the both Evolution and Intelligent Design could co-exist, as neither has the answer to what created the big bang »

    You're confusing biology and astronomy again.

  • « it would give our students a broader range to investigate »

    Don't worry, as soon as ID starts doing some actual science, and produces an actual testable model to go along with their religious assertions, I'm sure there'll be place for it in the science curriculum. But not before, of course.

  • @XGralgrathor It's not fair to our children to be taught one and not the other. Especially when Evolution Scientists like Dawkins does his best to "Debunk" God with mockery, blasphemous hate mongering and lewd heretic diatribes and even more foolish, Intelligent Design. We have enough division amongst people with corrupt new world order politics. No Court or Government should have the power to single out one and not the other on what our children should be taught. Still! Leave Religion Out Of It

  • @XGralgrathor "

    "Yes, it's all one big global conspiracy. Don't forget to wear your tinfoil hat when you go outside."

    This is exactly why Evolution gets such a bad name for itself. Stereotypical of Atheists using Evolution as their sounding board, to cut slice and dice all who have their personal beliefs on Religion, God or Spirit. Now add the corruption within the worlds Banking Institutions and Government.

    Ever heard of HAARP!

    watch?v=2TdIkI1ory8&playnext=1­&list=PL76545454E67C92EF

  • « This is exactly why Evolution gets such a bad name for itself. »

    Kid, if you're going about claiming that the whole of science is, and has been for the past century or so, a huge, ubiquitous conspiracy, then you can expect - and deserve! - to be ridiculed.

  • @XGralgrathor "Kid, if you're going about claiming that the whole of science is, and has been for the past century or so, a huge, ubiquitous conspiracy"

    Incorrect! - I never said "the whole of science is and has been for the past century or so" was "a huge, ubiquitous conspiracy" You then maliciously call me a kid and I deserve to be ridiculed. LOL

    What does falsifying or taking another mans words out of context qualify you for then? A Fool? A Liar? Both?

    You only have 3 choices here!

  • « Incorrect! - I never said »

    Indeed, you're very good at not quite coming out of the closet. But it's what you seem to believe, and it's what you seem to suggest.

  • @XGralgrathor Interpret my words however you wish, but you keep getting my message twisted around as if looking for an argument. False assumptions and false judgment. You're only proving your lack of ability to reason on a rational level. May I suggest you go sell crazy somewhere else, I'm not buying. Your hardly an advocate worthy of debate.

  • @XGralgrathor Furthermore, I said I agree that the many confusing religions should stay out of public schools, as it would only cause chaos and confusion, unless taught as a philosophy. If both Evolution and Intelligent Design could CO-EXIST, as neither has the answer to what created the big bang, how matter, time, space, the first living complex cell, it would give our students a broader range to investigate the many possible answers on their own rather than force fed one doctrine as absolute.

  • « I agree that the many confusing religions should stay out of public schools »

    And again, I never said that religions should be kept out of public schools. I said that they have no business in the *science curriculum*, and that they should in stead be taught in, for instance, comparative religion classes. Religions and ideologies are simply a fact of the world, and children *should* learn about them.

  • « If both Evolution and Intelligent Design could CO-EXIST »

    They can. Evolution as a subject in biology classes, and Intelligent Design as a subject of comparative religion or philosophy classes.

  • « neither has the answer to what created the big bang »

    ... You keep falling back on such simplistic Hovindisms. I'm sure you know quite well that evolutionary theory is a theory of BIOLOGY, not cosmology.

  • @XGralgrathor "... You keep falling back on such simplistic Hovindisms. I'm sure you know quite well that evolutionary theory is a theory of BIOLOGY, not cosmology.

    Do you just argue for the sake of arguing? I'll spell it out for you, My claim is that there are many fallacy's in science, evolution is just one of them. Hence my previous statements on "THEORY'S". However, if you just have short term memory lapse or cannot remember the initial argument, then that makes you unfit for debate.

  • « evolution is just one of them »

    Yet you cannot produce a single testable argument against the framework. All your arguments are in the form of "but you cannot PROVE it," relying on the misconception that explanatory frameworks in the natural sciences must somehow be proven. We would perhaps take your claims more seriously if they showed at least a basic understanding of scientific principles.

  • @XGralgrathor Exactly my point, unless its a proven formulated discovery, to sit there and waste all your time standing up for a paradigm theory is in itself completely foolish.

    The oldest known hominid/humanoid fossils i.e. "Lucy" and "Ardi" and all others can easily be defined as human bones of deformed humans such as dwarfs or giants, severely arthritic, osteoporosis, cerebral palsy, mongoloids or born deformed. ALL have "flat" teeth, none of which evolved from meat eating carnivores.

  • « unless its a proven formulated discovery »

    O, fuck, you yoghurt brained MORON.

    Okay, again, in child's language.

    Explanatory models are not "proven". EVER.

    Explanatory models are either SUPPORTED BY EVIDENCE, or they're revised. But they are NEVER "proven". Proof is a concept exclusive to formal logic and mathematics; it does NOT apply to explanatory models in the natural sciences.

  • @XGralgrathor "O, fuck, you yoghurt brained MORON."

    As I mentioned before, your entirely Unfit for debate. I mean, why waste my valuable time with a Childish Antagonistic Temperamental Reprobate? (rhetorical).

    Once again: "A fool speaks all that is on his mind Proverbs 29:11-17"

    Go sell CRAZY somewhere else, nobody's buying here!

  • « The oldest known hominid/humanoid fossils i.e. "Lucy" and "Ardi" and all others can easily be defined as human bones of deformed humans »

    No they cannot. But even if they could, your fuckwit creationist colleagues don't even agree amongst themselves which ones should be classified ape and which ones humans.

  • @XGralgrathor "fuckwit"

    A fool speaks all that is on his mind Proverbs 29:11-17

    Throwing temper tantrums when discussing science hardly gives you any credibility. If your expecting me to follow the opinions of others, know that I think for myself, unlike some who are void of common sense, yet puffed up with arrogant pride somehow thinking they're always right. Yes, there is such a thing as "College Educated Idiots".

    Some people like myself, inquisition all things. Only fools rush in.

  • « A fool speaks »

    Blah blah blah. Stop evading, and acknowledge that you got the point about the difference between evidence, proof, and which one is applicable in case of explanatory models in science.

  • @Acecool444 Do you even understand the sequence of evolution? Who ever said Humans evolved from meat eating carnivores? The mammals that humans evolved from were far more likely to eat fruits, vegetables and nuts, since human(oid)s do not possess the sharp claws or teeth necessary to kill their prey without tools. Either you are mixing apples and oranges and simply feebly repeating something you heard somewhere, or, you genuinely misunderstand the sequence of evolution. Either way you're wrong.

  • @TheManDave88

    Yes, I do! The few findings of theorized carbon dated bone fragments Scientist's call "humanoid/hominid" fossils, where never have been found, "Duplicate" sets of evolved "transitional" humanoid fossil's. No Two Identical Pairs! One could easily assess the "individual" finds as merely "Deformed" or "Diseased" human fossils. Namely, severely arthritic, osteoporosis, cerebral palsy, mutant, giant, dwarf, mongoloid, shrunken decay etc.

  • @XGralgrathor I also said: It's not fair our children be taught one and not the other. Especially when Evolution Scientists like Dawkins does his best to "Debunk" God with mockery, blasphemous hate mongering and lewd heretic diatribes and even more foolish, Intelligent Design. We have enough division amongst people with corrupt new world order politics. No Court or Government should have the power to single out one and not the other on what our children should be taught.

  • @Acecool444 G-D is the Alien, implanted into your brain, by indoctrination. He provides you, with the fiction of eternal life if you glorify him and, with the other fiction of eternal torture, if you disobey him. Thus, you arwe sandwiched between the superstitions of hope and fear. You are but a commiserable person.

    The inconvenient truth for you IS, that the NUMBER of Creators (0,1,100s,1000s?) is UNKNOWN, as well as their properties. DIVINE being DEFIES anthropogene SCRIPTURE. BIBLE=SCAM

  • @kleenex3000 "the NUMBER of Creators (0,1,100s,1000s?) is UNKNOWN, as well as their properties."

    Only unknown to those who are led into believing in falsity's by God himself (for a very good reason), false religion, false prophets (guiding angel of light = Satan and Wolves in Sheep's Clothing). Those of us who actually read and "UNDERSTAND" the bible, know exactly what true religion is, matter of fact, it's actually written in detail (not puzzled parables). Now add, the Gospel Of Christ!

  • @Acecool444 You are actually pretending, that an innocent child, that had never been indoctrinated, iow remained with LACK OF BELIEF, be a Satan worshipper. This fact proves yiour false belief and your dishonest attempt, to vilify innocent people.

    IF you actually KNOW your deity then you are a liar. A DEITY can only be believed in. Not be known. Even your BIBLE is very clear on this occasion.

  • @kleenex3000 I highly recommend you read your bible before assuming anything. Your curt reply's in judgment pretty much nominate you as unworthy of debate on this subject. Go sell crazy somewhere else please.

  • @Acecool444 I have read the Bible sufficiently, as to exactly be aware, that YOUR sayings are not endorsed by the Bible.

  • @Acecool444 wow, you can understand the bible?!? then you know 'circle' really means sphere and navels on dinosaurs really mean muscles.

  • Think Outside the Box, and don't be fooled by the elite authoritative figures promoting Evolution over Creationism.

    There is much evidence to prove that Evolutionary Scientists have committed FRAUD, in MANY of their findings. Human skulls patched with Orangutans, or other animal fossils and Deformed and/or Diseased Human Bones, i.e. Severe cases of arthritic, osteoporosis, cerebral palsy, Giants, Dwarfs and Pygmy's.

    It's ALL hogwash! Don't follow the Government, the Blind Leading The Blind!

  • @Acecool444 No, there isn't any evidence, you half-wit.

  • @plateofshrimp "No, there isn't any evidence, you half-wit."

    Only to people like you who don't know, nor want to know. Instead of being playing the fool, why don't you look it up instead of rushing in with lies.

    Once again people, Search: "Evolution Fraud"

    If Neanderthals had evolved with larger brain capacity than Apes and Apes still exist, then tell me, why aren't they or the other advanced humanoid fossil finds still living? Guess they just weren't smart enough!

  • @Acecool444 Are you asking why they went extinct? Probably because they all fuckin died.

  • i'll call creationists "cdesign proponentsists" from now on

  • my school has a club called IGNITE which is an extra curricular group of christians

  • GOD is good.

    Please pray, FATHER GOD, in the name of JESUS CHRIST, I repent for my sins. I believe that JESUS died and rose again to save me. Fill me with the HOLY SPIRIT so that I may live sin free. Amen

  • @glynisbethel

    Unless you want to be ridiculed, youtube comments is not the place for prayers. Lol.