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  • This really seems like something I would have seen back in high school.

  • Great documentary, great points there is no controversy. The song is a mock up of "I Ran" by Flock of Seagulls

  • Anyone know the name of the music being used in the trailer here?

  • Recent BBC headline: "China to overtake US on science' in two years". You Americans can care more for Biblical literalism than science if you like and let the Chinese run with it but at some point you will have to say goodbye hegemony.

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  • I could watch those dodos dance all day. They are hilarious

  • more like a "flock of dildos"

  • @PoliticalStu Thats very clever.

  • I'm glad I'm a descendant of monkey. They are allot more intelligent than the geniuses who think an invisible cloud man made them.

  • @TheHua89

    It seems the human race is evolving away from 'God Delusions', whilst some still want to live in the dark ages of delusions and fantasies.

    Bit like animal rights, some of the human race has evolved to have a higher compassion for their surroundings and other species, whilst others still want to live in the dark ages.

  • @TheHua89 An invisible cloud man? Now that's absurd. It is a supreme, intelligent being/force that transcends our physical world but choses to limit itself to us that we're talking about. It makes a lot more sense than believing a ''watch'' just happened. A little intellectual honesty would not hurt.

  • @abbielayla The problem is that there is absolutely zero evidence for what you said here. Intellectually honest people don't pretend to know things that they have absolutely no evidence of.

  • Why didn't Randy Olson apologize for spreading false information about Haeck's embryos with this documentary? He could've been sued for that.

  • Just stopped by for a quick word. Here it is: "inertial". Byeeee!

  • Does anyone know what the song in the background (most easy to hear in the last 20 seconds or so) is?

  • Many are becoming followers of explanations? That would mean that most people followed evolution in the first place no?

  • watch hoax of dodos to see how randy olson lied, evolutionists have a history of lying and when they are caught out they lie again like olson, tut tut.

  • Loved this movie. From what I remember, the gist is this: "The evolutionists have tons of evidence on their side, but they're losing in the court of public opinion because they're terrible communicators and just come off as arrogant." Which is why we need Randy Olsons.

  • I'm confused. What side is this movie on?

  • Exactly.

  • Exactly what?

  • The movie is on the side of truth, reason and rational thinking. For once, a movie does not lay out it's entire thought process in the trailer. I have not seen the entire film yet, but this trailer sure makes me want to, if only to find out "which side" it's on. It seems to me it will cover both sides pretty fairly and drawn some sort of conclusion from that. But again, I have not seen it. I think that you asked which side they're on must bring the film makers great pleasure though.

  • As objective as this movie appears to want to be, the fact that its producer is an evolutionist should give you some clue as to which side the movie is on.

  • Wow a group of kids being asked to say they don't believe in evolution! Another one being asked to emulate Samuel Wilberforce. I have to say that Ihave been swayed! Sooooooooooooooo convincing.

  • I can't tell wether you're kidding, or an idiot. Since this is the internet, I'll asume the second though.

  • Whether lamon is kidding or not, there are enough retarded religious people who will believe it. Sad.

  • uh huh.. finally... scary that folks felt so threatened by the "anti-Germ theory" that they had to resort to heat, and not light. Pretty much the topic of the movie. (HINT)

    First replace EVILoution with Intelligent design.....

    Then the "Invisible bugs" theory of Disease with Demonology...

    replacing theoretical gravity, with "intelligent falling" (that God accelerates ALL objects at 32ft/sec**2) would come next, since Newton doesn't call for the direct involvement of our Lord and Savior.

  • Or maybe you could replace the 96% of the universe that is missing with dark matter/energy, which cannot be observed (like God) but the scientific community is sure exists.

  • "Or maybe you could replace the 96% of the universe that is missing with dark matter/energy, which cannot be observed (like God) but the scientific community is sure exists."

    -- How do you think scientists describe dark matter: as a theory, a hypothesis or a fact?

    Furthermore, can anybody observe gravity? In that respect, how is dark matter inferred?

  • -- How do you think scientists describe dark matter: as a theory, a hypothesis or a fact?

    All of the above, depending on which 'scientist' you talk to.

    The effects of gravity can be observed in a truely scientific manner. That is, it can be demonstrated and tested in a lab, whereas Dark Matter/Energy can not.

  • "...depending on which 'scientist' you talk to."

    -- And when have you talked to any scientist in that field?

    "[Gravity] can be demonstrated and tested in a lab, whereas Dark Matter/Energy can not."

    -- Are you sure about that?

    Experiments on the Chandra X-ray Observatory have been conducted and they show that dark matter can be inferred due to its gravitational effects on visible matter. It's not as easy to measure as gravity, but neither are the effects of the theory of relativity :).

  • I haven't personally, but they have espoused all range of views in the documentaries I've seen.

    Likewise, are you truely sure about that?

    Interpretation of the observations by Chandra are being attributed to Dark Matter/Energy (DME). Since DME can't be detected/tested with any degree of certainty, it is just as plausible that the gravitational phenomena could be attributed to God (whom like DME, can't be detected/tested).

  • ... It's strange that DME isn't as easy to measure as gravity given that 96% of the universe is supposedly made out of it.

  • "... It's strange that DME isn't as easy to measure as gravity given that? 96% of the universe is supposedly made out of it. "

    -- Yes, and 99% of the universe is engulfed in background radiation, but unless you have a 64 meter radio antenna in your background you won't be able to measure it...

  • "I haven't personally"

    -- Well I'd like to know of any scientist who refers to DME as anything more than a hypothesis...

    "Since DME can't be detected..."

    -- Dark matter is detectable due to its effects on visible matter...

    "it is just as plausible that the? gravitational phenomena could be attributed to God (whom like DME, can't be detected/tested)."

    -- That's a non sequitur AND you have a false premise... how can you attribute gravitational effects on visible matter to God?

  • -- Dark matter is detectable due to its effects on visible matter...

    No, it isn't detectable. You by your own admission are inferring/hypothesising that the gravitational effects are being caused by DME.

    The apparent gravitational phenomena may be caused by something completely different, such as another force or optical anomally.

  • -- That's a non sequitur AND you have a false premise... how can you attribute gravitational effects on visible matter to God?

    It is only percieved as absurd and as a false premise by you because you refuse to believe in the possibility that God exists.

    If God created everything, then He is also responsible for the creation of gravity. God doesn't necessarily have to be actively involved ongoing effects of gravity as it is an inherent phenomena associated with mass.

  • "It is only percieved as absurd and as a false premise by you because you refuse to believe in the possibility that God exists."

    -- You seem lost, let me help you:

    1. Your false premise is that dark matter can't be detected (if this is true, then we shouldn't be observing any of its affects).

    2. Your non sequitor is that you say God could be the "force" behind dark matter because he can't be detected either.

    The second argument refutes your first AND it's a non sequitor...

  • That is my exact point.

    How can science refute God because he can't be seen/tested, and then replace Him with something that cannot not be directly observed or tested? That, is the non sequitor.

    Is it any less valid to say that the observed phenomena infers the existence of God?

    My suggestion that God could be the force is to highlight the hypocracy of the scientific community in dismissing God because they can't see/test him, and yet embracing DME even though it can not be seen/tested.

  • "How can science refute God because he can't be seen/tested..."

    -- While neither gravity nor dark matter can be seen, their effects can be observed, measured and tested... the same can't be said about God AT ALL :).

    "Is it any less valid to say that the observed phenomena infers the existence of God?"

    -- YES, it's so much less valid, that it's practically invalid.

    "yet embracing DME..."

    -- I'm not embracing anything, I'm only pointing out your repeated lie that DM can't be detected.

  • - their effects can be observed, measured and tested

    Granted, the effects of Gravity can be directly tested/observed. However, Dark Matter cannot, it is only inferred by observed gravitational anomalies.

    Gravitation is a function of Mass. If dark matter exists and has gravitational effects, then it must have mass. When and where has the mass of Dark Matter been observed?

    - the same can't be said about God AT ALL

    Fulfilled Biblical prophecy demonstrates the existence of God.

  • "However, Dark Matter cannot, it is only inferred by observed gravitational anomalies."

    -- So its effects HAVE a detectable component, this is COMPLETELY different from "can't be detected at all".

    "When and where has the mass of Dark Matter been observed?"

    -- It has been observed by it's gravitation effects, like we observe ALL mass in the universe (how else would we?).

    "Fulfilled Biblical prophecy demonstrates the existence of God. "

    -- FANTASY! LOL That's a complete and bitter fantasy!

  • You are are arbitarily ascribing the gravitational effects to the existence of dark matter. That is the non sequitor. You can't say that dark matter exists just because you detect gravitational anomalies

    You observe ALL mass in the universe by it's gravity - So how do you observe your house/car/computer screen? by their gravitational effects?

    Just because you are ignorant and unwilling 2 evalutate the fulfilled prophecies doesn't mean they are fantasy. The restoration of Israel was predicted.

  • "You are are arbitarily ascribing the gravitational effects to the existence of dark matter."

    -- Nobody started out by saying that dark matter exists, instead there was an observation of some gravitational effects on visible matter that implied that a mass exists which must be causing it.

    "You observe ALL mass in the universe by it's gravity - So how do you observe your house/car..."

    -- That's not mass, that's matter... you need help determining how to measure the mass of matter? LOL

  • Science claims the existence of DM based on the observation of gravitational anomalies. So yes, science is claiming DM exists, for without it they have no way to explain the phenomena.

    I know the difference between mass and matter. I was using the terms interchangeably because mass is an intrinsic property of matter.

    You still didn't answer the question? How do you observe the matter of your car, and it's inherent mass? Not by it's gravitational effects I'll bet.

  • "I was using the terms interchangeably because mass is an intrinsic property of matter."

    -- LOL HAHAHAHAHHAHA WOW! Seriously! WOW! HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • "Just because you are ignorant and unwilling 2 evalutate the fulfilled prophecies doesn't mean they are fantasy."

    -- You're the guy that can't tell the difference between matter and mass, yet you want to tell me about ignorance? Then you want to tell me about some prophecies? LOL HAHAHA

  • We were talking about mass which is an inherent property of matter. So nit pick all you like, you can avoid admitting your claim that all mass in the universe is observed by it's gravitational effects is wrong. You don't need to perform any gravitational experiiments to observe the matter/mass of the planet (or your car).

    Attacking me for using the wrong term doesn't excuse your ignorance regarding fulfilled prophechy, and only serves to demonstrate that you would prefer to remain ignorant.

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  • "Attacking me for using the wrong term..."

    -- HAHAHAHHAHA, I'm going to die laughing here! Are you serious? I would have let it go if you just used the wrong term, but you keep claiming that they're interchangeable and you keep insisting that I'm wrong when everything we know about science tells us that the ONLY way to detect mass is through its gravitational effects... it's not just that you used the wrong term, it's your continual attempts to save face with more dumb stuff after it!

  • - YES, it's so much less valid, that it's practically invalid.

    Why is it less valid?

    - I'm only pointing out your repeated lie that DM can't be detected.

    Can you tell me when and where the actual physical substance of Dark Matter has been detected? Remember, science has only INFERRED it's existence. To claim otherwise is the lie.

  • "Why is it less valid?"

    -- Because you have a false premise (DM can't be detected) and you have a non sequitor (God can't be detected therefore he's the force behind DM).

    "...science has only INFERRED it's existence."

    -- In your previous post you point out that DM's gravitational effects can be observed and as you rightfully pointed out: if DM has a gravitational effect then it must have a mass. The ONLY way we detect mass in this universe is by its gravitational effects- nobody can see mass!

  • You have a false premise that the gravitational effects are caused by Dark Matter. If we were to use your yard stick, God can be detected and inferred in the order of the universe.

    No, I don't agree that you are detecting gravitational effects that are caused by DM. DM is a theoretical substance that is yet to be proven.

    So you can't see the mass of the moon, jupiter, or other stars without observing it's gravitational effects? Man you must be blind. ;)

  • "You have a false premise that the gravitational effects are caused by Dark Matter."

    -- Dark matter is just the label for the apparent presence of mass where no visible matter exists...

    "So you can't see the mass of the moon, jupiter, or other stars without observing it's gravitational effects? Man you must be blind."

    -- And you must be retarded! We ALWAYS measure mass by its gravitational effects. Ever taken a physics class? Did they teach you the difference between matter and mass?

  • Don't try to make excuses. Dark Matter is more than just a label, it implies there is some sort of invisible and undetectable matter.

    And you must be retarded not to know that mass is an intrinsic property of matter. And hence, when I used the word mass, I was actually referring to it's associated matter.

  • "Don't try to make excuses."

    -- Oh no, I won't! LOL

    "you can avoid admitting your claim that all mass in the universe is observed by it's gravitational effects is wrong."

    -- And how exactly does one detect mass then? How do we measure/detect/observe mass? I definitely want to hear that one... go ahead! LOL HAHAH

  • "You by your own admission are? inferring/hypothesising..."

    -- And we can only infer that gravity is the attractive force in the universe... indeed, someone could speculate that gravity is an optical anomaly or they could say it's "intelligent falling" :).

    A hypothesis attempts to explain an observable fact. It doesn't matter whether it's an optical anomaly or there is a real gravitational affect on visible matter, we're noting that we've OBSERVED/DETECTED something that needs explanation.

  • POE!

  • This is a great movie. Ignorance is rampant and always will be.

  • Evolution is a lie created by biologists and their scientific agenda...just like gravity.

    Gravity is just a false theory...everyone knows things fall towards the earth because Jesus Christ wants them to.

  • No! It's the Flying Spaghetti Monster that causes gravity, not Jesus! Haven't you ever heard of Intelligent Gravitation? Check it out on Uncyclopedia.

  • I am a Computer Tech - hardware and software support, LAN/WAN stuff, a little system administration thrown in.

    I really wasn't serious about the job, but thank you for your support.

    America is my home. Even though it's becoming infested with idiots, this is where my family and life are.

  • I think this is great. Americans are turning their backs on science. This can only be good for European science. Keep up the good work.

  • You know, I tried to think up a good retort to your post, but alas, I failed. Be a good egg, and let me know if you hear of any good jobs there in the tech sector, won't you? It's getting a little crowded here in Fundyland

  • What is your field? Lots of jobs if you have the 'right' skill sets.

  • Haeckel's pictures are irrelevant. What matters are the embryos themselves. Early embryos do show many similarities and indicate a common evolutionary history.

  • One 19th century 'creationist' Louis Agassiz admitted:

    We find, too, that the young bat, or bird, or the young serpent, in certain periods of their growth, resemble one another so much that he would defy any one to tell one from the other--or distinguish between a bat and a snake.

    The Hoax of Dodos is an attempt at creating a straw man. It doesn't work because evolution isn't dependant upon Haeckel's drawings.

  • There's a youtube video called Hoax of Dodos that says there's misleading information in the flock of dodos movie.

  • Cause those people say i don't believe in evolution, intelligent design, we should leave the science and evidence. Oh you americans, if you don't like the truth, just create your own. isn't it.

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