Ancient Uyghur Civilization (3)-Cave art by ancient Uyghurs

[Takkyatukka]

If you google under these topics: "Mysterious Mummies of Xinjiang" East Turkistan.

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Why China Canceled the Xinjiang Exhibit"

You will find China actrually politiclisieng the history, scared of the mummies who do not harm the Chinese Communist party anymore. Is not it funny that China is scared of the mummies? R u scared of mummies as well? you should oppose the brainwashing of the Chinese Empire and support Uyghurs and Tibetans.Then there will be peace.

[Takkyatukka]

"Roman accountsPliny the Elder (, Chap XXIV "Taprobane") reports a curious description of the Seres (in the territories of northwestern China) made by an embassy from Taprobane (Ceylon) to Emperor Claudius, saying that they "exceeded the ordinary human height, had flaxen hair, and blue eyes, and made an uncouth sort of noise by way of talking", suggesting they may be referring to the ancient Caucasian populations of the Tarim Basin"wikipdia.

[kaostwenty2]

in my humble opinion this is a different culture but from our same civilization. I can see how much these "frescos" resemble those one from our medieval european culture. We are comming from the same disaster that went through the previous civlization. We remained few and dislocated in different continent and grew up each on a bit different in colture but as far as I see we were all comming from the new born civilization after that last big cataclysm

[Pantikin1969]

Rahmat duldul qirindishim millat uchun kop yahshi ishlarni qiliwatisiz , militimizni tunushturush yolida harmigaysiz sizga tihimu utuqlar tilayman .

[consoleman09]

beautiful arts, now i know where chinese stole their ideas from.

[thoostorm4]

@consoleman09 they have a dozen more inks than americas they have own cultureyou kno nothing ya phuktwit

[thoostorm4]

@consoleman09 why are whites so paranoid???????they have no culture

[ywintube]

@consoleman09 Which ideas did the Chinese stole from these ancient painting?

[Takkyatukka]

@ywintube I think he ment, Chinese has got the budism from Uyghurs (Uyghurs got it frm india) and has brougth civilization to China throught the history. Uyghurs has brouth medince, Silk and paper to the ancient Chinese kingdoms.But now they are called Chinese silk, chinese medince.If you look at the mummy found in East Turkistan dating back to 5000 years ago, Chinese didnt have that kind of sophisticated materal to make clothes at that time.u can find the documen about the mummy on youtube.

[ywintube]

@Takkyatukka Please don't ridicule yourself by saying Uyghurs brought silk &medicine to China. Uyghurs empire in Mongolian steppes was destroyed by Kirgiz ~848AD?, and a group of Uyghurs moved south and took refuge in today's Xinjiang which was then under the Tang dynasty. This group of Uyghurs were granted to stay there because they helped the Tang dynasty to defeat the other Uyghur rivals.

Those mummy were tocharians/ancient Indoeuropean.

Please don't distort history for goodness sake!

[Takkyatukka]

@ywintube Do Uyghurs look Mongols, Do Uyghurs look Chinese? Uyghurs are desendats of Huns. Later on we mixed with mongol race. I know that you know that there are hundreds of Uyghurs look like those mummies. The Uyghurs you mentioned is one kanat(wing) of Uyghurs. Who do you think made the Chinese to built the Great wall of CHina? Mongols and Uyghurs. Why did the Chinese Empire buld the Great wall there not further north? Becuase that is the border of Uyghurs and the Chinese. Do not you think so

[Takkyatukka]

@ywintube I think we both can argue about it for days and nights. China should not hide and politicilise the history then the truth will come out.If we aregue it like this here, it would not be fare for me becasue Uyghur history has been politicilised by the Chinese Regime and hidden.When East Turksitan regains it's independance then we can do further research.You know Gansu? Is Kengsu in Uyghur.that is why Chinese peope from there look also different.

[Takkyatukka]

@ywintube there r a lot of manuscrips in Koknur (dunhuang).But Chinese hides it.The Pyramids in northen part of CHina is hidden by the Chinese.That is why it is not fare at the moment to argue the Uyghur history. There are a lot of Persion,Inidan,Arabic words in Uyghur.The grammer is Altayic togehter with Japanese,Korea,Mongol, Hungarian,Finnish,Estonian etc.Uyghurs are obviously more Caucasian looking people.These facts might tell something about the origin of Uyghurs.

[Takkyatukka]

@ywintube East Turkistan was not part of Tang dynasty.At that time people of that area looked even more caucasian.If Chinse race belong to Caucasian race then yes. otherwise not. There is no single proof that Chinse has ever lived in East Turkistan.All the mummies found there are Caucasian or Indoeuropean.Even as you said Uyghurs mixed with those people,then still that makes it that they were the ancesters of Uyghurs.thus Uyghurs not the CHinese are desendants of those Indoeuropeans.

[Takkyatukka]

@ywintube When I was in Beijing, I was told by a Chinse historian that the CHinese government has been hiding Uyghur history.Only historians know about the true history of Uyghurs. He also told me that because it is connected to the politics.He though I was a foreiner that is why he revealed his heart to me.It was also a kind of felief for him to tell somehting to a foreiner since he can not share this with a ordinary chinese person.if he does that he could be in trouble.

[ywintube]

@Takkyatukka Your argument is twisted with hidden agenda perhaps. Go and read up ancient history records. Well before the Uyghurs, Xinjiang or the "'western region" known to ancient Chinese, was once roamed by 'Xiongnu' ( or Hunor) nomadic tribe who frequently disturbed the Chinese so much so that the Han Emperor, Hanwudi, at ~110BC, droved them away. The southern Xiongnu surrendered and fully assimilated into the Chinese society;the northern Xiongnu believed to have moved west to Hungary.

[Takkyatukka]

@ywintube Yeah, the sun spins around China and the nationlist Chinese.

[ywintube]

@Takkyatukka I am just stating historical records, no hear say and no political agenda.

[Takkyatukka]

@ywintube The historical record wraping nattinalim and politics. You are not in CHina anymore. You can open yourself up to other cutlures and other opinions. It is the China and Some Chinese people here who are politiciliasing the history.

[Takkyatukka]

@ywintube It is the Chinese Regime who is politicilising the history even the harmless mummies have been policilised by the Chinese Regime. Why do not you question that? I know Chinese people are so brainwashed since their childhood and they can not think freely even in the free west. Carry their emparialist thougth to everywhere. It can be very dangerous to the world.

[ywintube]

@Takkyatukka Please elaborate how the "harmless mummies" been politicised? If they want to do it, simple: just burnt it to ashes when they found it, chapter closed right? Now the researchers are trying to unveil why these ancient Indo-European disappeared possibly because of climate change: from grassland/lakes to arid desert or natural calamity.

[Takkyatukka]

@ywintube Do you think those Huns just left like that completely? Driven away from the north of the Great wall to East Turkistan now. Why did they build the great wall there not even further to the north? Think logically withough any nationlist feeling please.

[ywintube]

@Takkyatukka Yes the southern Huns settled in northwest region and assimilated into the Han Chinese over the years. The northern Huns were driven to today's southern Russia. The Han dynasty took control of "western region" or today's Xinjiang and started the Silk Route alongwhich they built settlements/castles, the ruins which still can be found today. When Han dynasty fell ~220AD followed by 300 years of chaotic moment before the uighurs took refuge during the Tang dynasty ~849AD.

[ywintube]

@Takkyatukka The Great Wall was built during the Qin dynasty ~220BC by connecting the existing walls already built during the Warring States ~500 to ~250BC to fend off the Huns. Uighurs did not exist then and turkistan was not mentioned in any scripts then. Infact I read some where that the turks were originally the ironsmith slaves of a ruling tribe in central asia.

[Takkyatukka]

@ywintube That is why the Chinese people from the north do not look like the Chinese from the south. Chinese people from Beijing and Xian are quite mixed with Uyghurs or Huns if you like. They are quite big in buit, taller and fairer then the Chinese from the South.