My question is this...where did they get the phone conversation? Was this person "Glenda" that Michael trusted so much,purposely taping their conversation,in hopes that someday she can profit off of them? If she did then she is a snake in the grass!
@Cutesweetyuna Boy, people will believe anything about Mike won't they? Those of us who grew up with Mike from the 60's and 70's know this is Mike, plain and simple. So, you read everyone's posts and now this isn't Mike? Wow. Plus, he's talking about personal shit here. He says "I thought I was with Diana, but that was in my own mind, and that it took years, a hell of a long time to get over her". It's Mike. It's probably the most open we've ever heard him. A lot of insight into him here.
@bronxbabi100 Oh, shut the hell up. "Those of us who grew up with Mike from the 60's and 70's know this is Mike" My dear, you sound very stupid. I've been a fan of Michael since his J5 days. I grew up on THEM, & I've followed his career since. That has NOTHING to do with knowing his voice in a fucking phonecall. Many of the things "he" said here are things he's said in interviews. I don't know why my confusion on this is so upsetting to you. You must be having a bad day...? Feel better, hon.
@bronxbabi100 Ungrateful piece of shit. I was in no way trying to force anyone to believe this isn't him. Only thing I was doing was showing everyone the forum. I was confused in that comment three months ago. It was a suggestion and I don't understand why that would upset you.
@Cutesweetyuna WTF do I have to be grateful to you for? And who said I was upset. So, now you gotta name call, bitch? Yeah, like I said, that's Mike. Why the fuck are YOU upset?
@bronxbabi100 I'm not upset at all, trust. Today's been an amazing/eventful spring day for me. A stranger on Youtube couldn't affect my feelings if they tried for years (take notes). But I'm glad you asked. Very sweet of you. & Yes, I called you a POS. I don't apologize, but I do applaud you for stooping down and calling me a bitch. Grow up, dear. No, I don't believe this is him- that shouldn't affect you or concern you. Accept that not everyone will have the same beliefs in life.
@Cutesweetyuna WTF do I have to be grateful to you for? I grew up on THEM too. And?? Yeah, like I said, that's Mike. Why the fuck are YOU upset about it? You're the one who immediately got defensive. A lot of the personal statements he made have NOT been made public before. My point was that you let other people's comments lead you to believe it's not him when it obviously is. It's okay though. I'm used to ignorant bitches like u getting defensive instead of debating the points intelligently.
@bronxbabi100 Alright, I see now that you are a simply a waste. All I can really say at this point is that I feel sorry for you, for how close minded you are. I don't even feel like replying with everything I'd like to say to you, because I honestly don't give two flying fucks about what you think or know. You are nobody to me, a Youtube stranger with too much time on her hands. Goodbye now, piece of shit.
@Cutesweetyuna Don't feel sorry for me. Feel sorry for you. How about this: first, get an education so you can learn how to spell. Second, get some couseling to deal with your anger issues. "Close" minded? Yeah, okay. I don't care how many "flying fucks" you give; doesn't matter. What matters is people like you who believe any and everything about Mike when this is clearly the man's voice, dummy! And we wonder why we're like 21st in the world in terms of education?! I guess ignorance IS bliss
@bronxbabi100 It's clear to anyone who may read this that I have no anger issues. If anything, need to calm yourself and consider seeking help. Nothing in life is serious enough for you to go into a fit of rage, towards a person through the internet, no less. I see one spelling error in my last post. Poor baby, you're making a fool of yourself. I was a psychologist, I most definitely have an education. But I'd like to ask, who cares..? Again, we are on Youtube! I feel like I'm talking to a kid.
@Cutesweetyuna Sweetie, based on your previous language, it's clear that you DO have anger issues, ie., the unwarranted "ungrateful piece of shit" comment. As for being a psychologist, it can be argued that most psychologists explore the field because they, themselves, are in need of psychological help. Finally, you are correct, we are on Youtube so the personal attacks that you waged on me in your previous messages were totally unnecessary. It seems to me that you can dish it but can't take it.
Of course this is MJ. Like someone said earlier, Michael exhibited a vocal tone and quality that was particularly unique to him. You can tell this is him, especially the part where he says "Well, refresh my memory" at 00:21-22. This conversation just proves that he was just a normal guy in an ultra extraordinary situation.
Its a black thang lol i wish he could of had a real relationshi[ he could of had one with a fan just not a suuuuuper crazy fan i wish more ppl were there for him
@rrrmm5 what lovers? I think he made up his lovers "most of them unknown to the public". It seems to me that Michael was not able at all to deal with women cose he always remained a little boy, Peter Pan, actually. Maybe he wanted to have a strong realationship but at the same time he felt uncomfortable within the union with a woman (women). In addition to that, in Shmuley's tapes Michael showed his attitude to women. And it was not positive at all.
@emely741 wow you're replying to an old post of mine, I've found out alot more since then. The lovers existed, peter pan didn't, that was a carefully crafted image. you haven't seen the titties video? peter pan checking out titties? Teddy Riley tweeting that MJ got it in? Flo Anthony talking a g/f called Sheila? a lover from Oakland before he met Lisa, and lisa admitting they got back together while he was married to Debbie. he wasn't being honest with the Rabbi, he knew he was being taped.
@LeonaSky no, he's talking about a few girls here..first Melissa, the one he was going to be with, then Tatum O'Neal, then Diana Ross..she was his first love.
ooo mjs dark wild side where he cusses...whoooo turn on for him anyway because ive never really haerd him cuss b4 o man AND hes talkn about women and sex and stuff....cant breathe...whooo
you must be on some serious crack, meth or some unknown drug to even have the thought put in ur head to have ever been "FOOLING AROUND" or "CHEATING ON" Michael. seriously how could you cheat on somthing like that. we are talkin about a man that could get any woman in the world, but he instead choose ur behind...and you break his heart. tatum was mentaly ill in the highest form of mental illness to have ever did that to him. that goes for the rest of the chicken heads tht broke his heart b4.
@Icelandicblood When someone says "she got my nose wide opened" that means that you are so in love with the person that you would probably do anything for that person...you love them full-heartedly and openly that you leave yourself opened to them, even opened to getting your heart broken. MJ was right, it is a black THANG, LOL.
It's pretty clear that Michael fibbed to Oprah during their 1993 interview when he told her he didn't read La Toya's book. From these conversations, it's clear that he did read it long before -- or at least the parts that were about him! ;)
S is a decoy used by Michael. I suggest the ppl that dont know facts to refrain to speak about ppl. The are things that Michael talks in the tapes that R code for the truth.
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"that "princess S doesn't exist it's the product of horny fangirls' imagination lol"
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That is a rude way to call Tom Meserau who believes in and knows ppl out of view from press and fans in Michael's private life. Grace, LMP even dont know things TomMez knows. Keep reading trash online. MJ disliked gossipers.
in the meantime when fans started to ask her questions her blog mysteriously disappeared, I think she was also charging money at one point? don't remember exactly but it pisses me off when so called fans make up stories like that about MJ
in this story the "S" girl was supposedly 17 years old - way to ruin his reputation more by claiming he was sleeping with an underage girl! they're lucky some tabloid didn't pick it up and run with it. idiots
but these tapes are real they're not fake, they surfaced in 2005 during the trial there was media coverage too but they only picked up the part about him not sleeping with women and the joke, you know, about the british dish...lol
they didn't show anything that was in his favor and there was so much stuff on the tapes
maybe michael jacskson was asked if it was true and he said no.... i remember reading something on the papers it said michael jackson spoke of having a crush on a girl called KATHY but not S. and the tapes were actually recorded by glendas son and husband.....
yes i tought that too, and he was like crazy about the "death" i mean it's like he knows he will die soon, i'm wonder how it feel to live with that fear every day...my god
@britmicro I don't think Kathy is Brooke and I mistakenly referenced that name to some other comments. But I do believe some of the names were disguised to prevent anyone who may have been listening to not recognize them. For instance, I believe Melissa is Shana Mangatal.
I really don't understand what he is saying ...who is Melissa who is Kathy ?About who is he talking ?Someone who know ,please tell me Thank you anticipate....*he is so cute ,,,his voice warm my soul*
Sorry but English is not my mother tongue, so for me is a little diffcult to understand the problem with Latoya, Janet, Bill, Africa,because he is talking about that and then about Kathy, that part, can someone explain it to me ?? This tapes are real ??
@swizzlawe La Toya is Michael's sister, and he's talking about the book that she wrote in 1991 called "Growing Up in the Jackson Family." In it, she says that if Michael is ever gonna find true love it will have to be with someone who either doesn't know who he is or whose career is equal to his.
@barnesfam, are you serious? LMP was the love of his life?! He may have loved but, probably wasn't in love with her. I used to think that way too, until I really started researching just how turmultuous their whole history being together was. Now I think quite the contrary.
OMG! I never knew this side of Michael. This is the saddest thing I've heard from him "I want to be with someone. I want to know what a relationship is all about before I die, can't you understand that girl?" OMG. He never found that someone, that's so tragic.
@ajhello25 Actually, he did. He found Lisa Marie. Even though their marriage didn't last for long, he did experience marriage and I think that out of all the women Michael's been in a relationship with, Lisa Marie was the love of his life.
Oh...wow, that's different! :D Michael is talking about...sex and women!!! :D God, he is TOTALLY a real man!!! :D I miss him sooooooo much right now, damn it!!!
ok, Melissa was the first one, a dance instructor on the Dang. rehearsals, she loved him, then he speaks of Kathy, just a friend i think, but on other tapes I've heard, it appears something happened between them at one stage. Tate is Tatum O'Neal, they dated in the late70's. then Diana Ross, he was in love with her. He thought they were together, but she fooled around on him. He says here they didn't have sex, but in Moonwalk he calls her "my lover"...something went on between them...con't
you don't take "years" to get over a mere crush, and in an Ebony interview in 82, he was sure he was going to marry her. She broke his heart and at the 86 AMA's he was very cold and angry with her. I believe they had an affair that was kept under wraps. I don't think he's always on the level with Glenda, he holds back, certainly with things concerning Diana. Type in Michael Jackson American music awards 1986 part 2. he's angry cos Diana had just gotten married. he looks gorgeous, but pissed off!
Melissa's the one that turns up at his office here, but on other tapes he talks about her and uses her name. She worked on the Dang. rehearsals and was clearly in love with him. He says he's gonna be with her, and on another tape Glenda says what's happening with Melissa and mike says "nothing, not NOW" then Glenda says "aw cmon, nothing?" and Mike laughs and says "not now", and he didn't want Kathy knowing about her..lol..
they were on ut, not sure if they still are, I have over 100 dvds so I don't really use ut that much. I just had another listen to the Melissa convo I have, and he's dating another girl he won't name, and she gets nasty with Melissa when they're all at a function together and mike says "she knows what happened between me and Melissa so she doesn't like her". Melissa got upset and Mike told his girl to "be nice", then he tells Glenda nothings going on with Melissa now.
you should listen to this interview with the jasckson 5 called Jackson 5 Interview (RARE FULL VERSION) and mike talk about what type of girl he like and he say something like a girl with big eyes and what do diana ross have LOL...... ill let you finish that question
which part are you asking about? He's talking about 2 women here, Melissa says she loves him and he says he's gonna be with her, and Kathy, well, she didn't know about Melissa..lol..
in another tape, he indicates something happened between him and Kathy, but then he decided to stay friends, Melissa winds up dating someone "in the house" as he puts it, he probably meant on tour, and Mike admits to being totally faithful to S. He really loved that girl.
Kathy was a nurse, that either hung out with Randy or dated him, but she took an interest in Mike too, on other tapes he talks about something that happened between them, but he just wanted to stay friends, and Melissa and Kathy didn't know about each other..lol..
damn i wonder what girl he was talking about. first he said he hung out with a woman, had lunch, said that she loves but michael doesn't want to call her. but he also says he did like her and she knew that. truth is i don't know if this is tatiana or another woman he liked. but i prefer this than the rabbi.
there's 8 hours of tapes and I have heard most of them. The girl is Melissa, a dance coordinator who says she loves him, and he says he's gonna be with. He's not talking about Tatiana on this tape, he talks about her on another one.
I have a good set of headphones and can hear alot more than is written, and it blows me away. Listen to 3:58 and also 4:27 straight after Glenda says "did you ever tell Kathy"...I wanna see if my ears are hearing right, and if they are, this is amazing. Joe might have been telling the truth about Omer...
Tate is Tatum O'Neal. He also mentions Tatiana at one point (not in the YT parts) and he basically says she's a stalker and she goes on TV to tell lies that she was in a relationship with him. Which is not true.
lol, yeah I heard that too. He said Tatiana was too clingy and chased him too much. From what I can gather, he liked to do the chasing when it came to women, and didn't like them doing the chasing, that's the mistake Tatiana made.
lol glenda reminds me of one of my friends..and she really reminded me of one of my friends when michael said " she can drive a truck through my nose" ...
just like my friend i could say something like that ..and she will laugh but she will never get it ntil i explain it ...lol
After listening to this I've come to the conclusion, that there was nothing odd about him. He was just afraid to be in a relationship, because of celebrity status, and how cruel his father was to his mother, and seeing his brothers cheating on their wives with groupies. There must have been times where he was turned off by love completely!
And I totally understand why he became that way. My parents divorced when I was a teenager. My father was verbally abusive to my mother. I grew up not knowing what a loving relationship is, and still have a hard time being in a loving relationship, even in my early 30's.
WHO IS KATHY???
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oh god hes as funny as hell............lol:D
mamjack17 2 months ago
Y the fuck am I in his business? And how did I get hea?
hamsterisloved 2 months ago
I Knew girl I Knew for a Fact !! Lls That Cracks Me up
IloveMichaeljsomuch3 5 months ago
I wonder if the Kathy that Michael is referring to is none other than Mrs. Kathy Hilton?
blackaristo 6 months ago
"It's a black thang!" Michael is truely black maan! I love it!
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Oh man... this part of the conversation breaks my heart. After everything he did for the world and everyone he deserved to be happy with someone. :/
wendyy811 7 months ago
My question is this...where did they get the phone conversation? Was this person "Glenda" that Michael trusted so much,purposely taping their conversation,in hopes that someday she can profit off of them? If she did then she is a snake in the grass!
Hecata 8 months ago 3
ahaha MIKE: "It's a Black thang"
indeed1234 9 months ago
this is why later in his life he couldn't trust anyone. such a betrayal!
sheeba11 11 months ago
Its a Black thang :) ...He killed It :)
EMDzejMJPetra 1 year ago
Of course he's talking about Tatiana Thumbtzen! No doubt!
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Cutesweetyuna 1 year ago
@Cutesweetyuna Boy, people will believe anything about Mike won't they? Those of us who grew up with Mike from the 60's and 70's know this is Mike, plain and simple. So, you read everyone's posts and now this isn't Mike? Wow. Plus, he's talking about personal shit here. He says "I thought I was with Diana, but that was in my own mind, and that it took years, a hell of a long time to get over her". It's Mike. It's probably the most open we've ever heard him. A lot of insight into him here.
bronxbabi100 11 months ago
@bronxbabi100 Oh, shut the hell up. "Those of us who grew up with Mike from the 60's and 70's know this is Mike" My dear, you sound very stupid. I've been a fan of Michael since his J5 days. I grew up on THEM, & I've followed his career since. That has NOTHING to do with knowing his voice in a fucking phonecall. Many of the things "he" said here are things he's said in interviews. I don't know why my confusion on this is so upsetting to you. You must be having a bad day...? Feel better, hon.
Cutesweetyuna 11 months ago
@bronxbabi100 Ungrateful piece of shit. I was in no way trying to force anyone to believe this isn't him. Only thing I was doing was showing everyone the forum. I was confused in that comment three months ago. It was a suggestion and I don't understand why that would upset you.
Cutesweetyuna 11 months ago
@Cutesweetyuna WTF do I have to be grateful to you for? And who said I was upset. So, now you gotta name call, bitch? Yeah, like I said, that's Mike. Why the fuck are YOU upset?
bronxbabi100 11 months ago
@bronxbabi100 I'm not upset at all, trust. Today's been an amazing/eventful spring day for me. A stranger on Youtube couldn't affect my feelings if they tried for years (take notes). But I'm glad you asked. Very sweet of you. & Yes, I called you a POS. I don't apologize, but I do applaud you for stooping down and calling me a bitch. Grow up, dear. No, I don't believe this is him- that shouldn't affect you or concern you. Accept that not everyone will have the same beliefs in life.
Cutesweetyuna 11 months ago
@Cutesweetyuna WTF do I have to be grateful to you for? I grew up on THEM too. And?? Yeah, like I said, that's Mike. Why the fuck are YOU upset about it? You're the one who immediately got defensive. A lot of the personal statements he made have NOT been made public before. My point was that you let other people's comments lead you to believe it's not him when it obviously is. It's okay though. I'm used to ignorant bitches like u getting defensive instead of debating the points intelligently.
bronxbabi100 11 months ago
@bronxbabi100 Alright, I see now that you are a simply a waste. All I can really say at this point is that I feel sorry for you, for how close minded you are. I don't even feel like replying with everything I'd like to say to you, because I honestly don't give two flying fucks about what you think or know. You are nobody to me, a Youtube stranger with too much time on her hands. Goodbye now, piece of shit.
Cutesweetyuna 11 months ago
@Cutesweetyuna Don't feel sorry for me. Feel sorry for you. How about this: first, get an education so you can learn how to spell. Second, get some couseling to deal with your anger issues. "Close" minded? Yeah, okay. I don't care how many "flying fucks" you give; doesn't matter. What matters is people like you who believe any and everything about Mike when this is clearly the man's voice, dummy! And we wonder why we're like 21st in the world in terms of education?! I guess ignorance IS bliss
bronxbabi100 11 months ago
@bronxbabi100 It's clear to anyone who may read this that I have no anger issues. If anything, need to calm yourself and consider seeking help. Nothing in life is serious enough for you to go into a fit of rage, towards a person through the internet, no less. I see one spelling error in my last post. Poor baby, you're making a fool of yourself. I was a psychologist, I most definitely have an education. But I'd like to ask, who cares..? Again, we are on Youtube! I feel like I'm talking to a kid.
Cutesweetyuna 11 months ago
@Cutesweetyuna Sweetie, based on your previous language, it's clear that you DO have anger issues, ie., the unwarranted "ungrateful piece of shit" comment. As for being a psychologist, it can be argued that most psychologists explore the field because they, themselves, are in need of psychological help. Finally, you are correct, we are on Youtube so the personal attacks that you waged on me in your previous messages were totally unnecessary. It seems to me that you can dish it but can't take it.
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25whaatever 6 days ago
I am going to google all of this girls,to see who they are,and who was this girl that he loved so much,can some please.\,please tell me
MrDinoraornts 1 year ago
wow,D is the your video,is there eny more tapes?
MrDinoraornts 1 year ago
wow so daamn micheal, i wonder if he ever had aREAL WWOMAN"GF',WIFE' OR IT WAS JUST TV wow
TheRoyaldiamond 1 year ago
I think this conversation is stupid. It is plenty of pictures of Michael with Diana when he was grown. He never give interviews like this.
rocknroll773 1 year ago
This made me cry ... I wish Michael had the relationship that he wanted ...
TheMiissCB 1 year ago
This is freaking FASCINATING.
triciamillsgray 1 year ago 3
Of course this is MJ. Like someone said earlier, Michael exhibited a vocal tone and quality that was particularly unique to him. You can tell this is him, especially the part where he says "Well, refresh my memory" at 00:21-22. This conversation just proves that he was just a normal guy in an ultra extraordinary situation.
Darslow 1 year ago 4
@Darslow LEGIT.... That's how I figured out it was him o.0 you're a beast.
wendyy811 7 months ago
So sad!
ChrisBrownsGirl17 1 year ago
GLENDA IS SO ANNOYING!!
LoveLennon28 1 year ago
@LoveLennon28 i should be on the pone with him not glenda,laughin and shit that heffaa
TheRoyaldiamond 1 year ago
@TheRoyaldiamond Me too! I wouldn't really know what to say but I'm sure I could think of something! lol
LoveLennon28 1 year ago
Its a black thang lol i wish he could of had a real relationshi[ he could of had one with a fan just not a suuuuuper crazy fan i wish more ppl were there for him
wii1199 1 year ago
michael was very good at hiding his pain...eheheheh hell good.
TheSmoothjackson 1 year ago 4
Omg I'm still crying
4evayoung1990 1 year ago
Its sad MJ wanted a real relationship. I think he left this earth without ever really having a real realtionship. R..I.P MJ
LeonaSky 1 year ago
@LeonaSky he had many real relationships the public just didn't know about. read his bio, he talks about lovers, most of them unknown to the public.
rrrmm5 1 year ago 4
@rrrmm5 what lovers? I think he made up his lovers "most of them unknown to the public". It seems to me that Michael was not able at all to deal with women cose he always remained a little boy, Peter Pan, actually. Maybe he wanted to have a strong realationship but at the same time he felt uncomfortable within the union with a woman (women). In addition to that, in Shmuley's tapes Michael showed his attitude to women. And it was not positive at all.
emely741 6 months ago
@emely741 wow you're replying to an old post of mine, I've found out alot more since then. The lovers existed, peter pan didn't, that was a carefully crafted image. you haven't seen the titties video? peter pan checking out titties? Teddy Riley tweeting that MJ got it in? Flo Anthony talking a g/f called Sheila? a lover from Oakland before he met Lisa, and lisa admitting they got back together while he was married to Debbie. he wasn't being honest with the Rabbi, he knew he was being taped.
rrrmm5 6 months ago 2
was he talking about Tatiana Thumbtzen the girl from the way you make me feel video?
LeonaSky 1 year ago 3
@LeonaSky no, he's talking about a few girls here..first Melissa, the one he was going to be with, then Tatum O'Neal, then Diana Ross..she was his first love.
rrrmm5 1 year ago 2
which girl r they talkin about?????????
sluvm17 1 year ago
ooo mjs dark wild side where he cusses...whoooo turn on for him anyway because ive never really haerd him cuss b4 o man AND hes talkn about women and sex and stuff....cant breathe...whooo
mjspytforeverz 1 year ago
you must be on some serious crack, meth or some unknown drug to even have the thought put in ur head to have ever been "FOOLING AROUND" or "CHEATING ON" Michael. seriously how could you cheat on somthing like that. we are talkin about a man that could get any woman in the world, but he instead choose ur behind...and you break his heart. tatum was mentaly ill in the highest form of mental illness to have ever did that to him. that goes for the rest of the chicken heads tht broke his heart b4.
scorpioatql 1 year ago 4
When Glenda asks him "Well what are you gonna do" and he says "Well I'm gonna be with her.",who is he talking about?
switchfootgirl1 1 year ago 3
What year are these tapes from?
And what does he mean with the nose thing??
Icelandicblood 1 year ago
@Icelandicblood When someone says "she got my nose wide opened" that means that you are so in love with the person that you would probably do anything for that person...you love them full-heartedly and openly that you leave yourself opened to them, even opened to getting your heart broken. MJ was right, it is a black THANG, LOL.
brownie3085 1 year ago 20
HAHAHAHAHAHHAA its a black thaaang. lmao! :D he is so funny!, i woulda <3 to be his friend, wow....just wow.
ibringthefireexo 1 year ago 9
WOWOWOWOWOW!!!!!
JAELONTHEGREAT 1 year ago
It's pretty clear that Michael fibbed to Oprah during their 1993 interview when he told her he didn't read La Toya's book. From these conversations, it's clear that he did read it long before -- or at least the parts that were about him! ;)
Cathie8791 1 year ago 2
He sounds so sad and lonely in this part of the conversation. :[
I wish I could have been there to comfort him.
cutiepiekozy 1 year ago 2
Just out of curiosity, did you buy these tapes from David Hans Schmidt or did you download them from the Internet when you got them?
tcanstew 2 years ago
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S is a decoy used by Michael. I suggest the ppl that dont know facts to refrain to speak about ppl. The are things that Michael talks in the tapes that R code for the truth.
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"that "princess S doesn't exist it's the product of horny fangirls' imagination lol"
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That is a rude way to call Tom Meserau who believes in and knows ppl out of view from press and fans in Michael's private life. Grace, LMP even dont know things TomMez knows. Keep reading trash online. MJ disliked gossipers.
alaumudir 2 years ago 3
lol
sweet4melody 2 years ago
this is funny it should be kathy
thatsmybooMJ 2 years ago
in the meantime when fans started to ask her questions her blog mysteriously disappeared, I think she was also charging money at one point? don't remember exactly but it pisses me off when so called fans make up stories like that about MJ
in this story the "S" girl was supposedly 17 years old - way to ruin his reputation more by claiming he was sleeping with an underage girl! they're lucky some tabloid didn't pick it up and run with it. idiots
beatingofmyheart1 2 years ago 19
OK...maybe you are right. Some of the things that I have read in the transcripts doesn't even sound like MJ and what he had done with that girl.
Lilbittybetty 2 years ago
but these tapes are real they're not fake, they surfaced in 2005 during the trial there was media coverage too but they only picked up the part about him not sleeping with women and the joke, you know, about the british dish...lol
they didn't show anything that was in his favor and there was so much stuff on the tapes
beatingofmyheart1 2 years ago 5
I mean not "not sleeping with women" ...about wanting a relationship
beatingofmyheart1 2 years ago
@beatingofmyheart1
and where can i find all the tapes? can you tell me?
eleiordache 1 year ago
maybe michael jacskson was asked if it was true and he said no.... i remember reading something on the papers it said michael jackson spoke of having a crush on a girl called KATHY but not S. and the tapes were actually recorded by glendas son and husband.....
sweet4melody 2 years ago
Um ... OK!
Lilbittybetty 2 years ago
from where do you have this conversation ?:D and the others?
maryjblove 2 years ago
who can be diana ?
nadialmg 2 years ago
Diana Ross
rrrmm5 2 years ago
@rrrmm5 oh how did it not come on my mind?
anyway
thanks :)
nadialmg 2 years ago
interesting that he's talking about all the women in his life even from when he was a teenager, but he never mentions brooke in this conversation.
britmicro 2 years ago 8
i agree, since 1996 lisa has done too many interviews speaking badly of michael
britmicro 2 years ago
i guess he is sayin i dont know this :eople not i dont love this people!?! 07:07
chaotic87 2 years ago
@chaotic87
yes i tought that too, and he was like crazy about the "death" i mean it's like he knows he will die soon, i'm wonder how it feel to live with that fear every day...my god
eleiordache 1 year ago
its a black thang lol ima keep saying that
babyl0vewazhere 2 years ago 6
Nose wide open? lol thts the first time i heard that and im black lol.
I looked it up, this is what it means:
Nose wide open is Black-American slang for 'to be in love'
bbnnq 2 years ago 5
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BeauitifulMJForever 2 years ago
That is so cute that you had to look that up. You much be fairly young huh? :-D.
msdogooder 2 years ago
@msdogooder If 15 is young then yeah, lol xD
bbnnq 2 years ago
I guess it is not that young, but it sorta is to a 30 year-old old foggie like me...LOL :-D.
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in the begining he was talking about likeing kathy aka broke shields and now he is talking about Shana Mangatal ..which one did he end up with?
songartist789 2 years ago
Kathy=Brooke
MJMedia09 2 years ago
why would he call brooke "kathy"?
britmicro 2 years ago
@britmicro I don't think Kathy is Brooke and I mistakenly referenced that name to some other comments. But I do believe some of the names were disguised to prevent anyone who may have been listening to not recognize them. For instance, I believe Melissa is Shana Mangatal.
MJMedia09 2 years ago
he is talking about kathy hilton
tevin3619 2 years ago
@tevin3619 NO!!!
MJMedia09 2 years ago
wat are they talking about at 4:09? who is the girl he is talking about?
songartist789 2 years ago
Shana Mangatal
MJMedia09 2 years ago
I really don't understand what he is saying ...who is Melissa who is Kathy ?About who is he talking ?Someone who know ,please tell me Thank you anticipate....*he is so cute ,,,his voice warm my soul*
myevilluv 2 years ago 2
i LOVE you Michael forever and ever!
ZtellaStar 2 years ago
Sorry but English is not my mother tongue, so for me is a little diffcult to understand the problem with Latoya, Janet, Bill, Africa,because he is talking about that and then about Kathy, that part, can someone explain it to me ?? This tapes are real ??
TheSamborombon 2 years ago 2
dam he really love princess diana ... i always knew that 2 ...
elizaakababyd 2 years ago
@elizaakababyd he meant diana ross not princess diana.
sepidehtje 2 years ago 4
He's not talking about Princess Diana but Diana Ross.
MJMedia09 2 years ago 4
He says "but I don't love those people LIKE THAT", those last 2 words make a difference to some...
stephnewtown 2 years ago 3
who is la toya and wat book is he talkin about
swizzlawe 2 years ago
Latoya is her sister, didn't you know her !!??
TheSamborombon 2 years ago
@swizzlawe La Toya is Michael's sister, and he's talking about the book that she wrote in 1991 called "Growing Up in the Jackson Family." In it, she says that if Michael is ever gonna find true love it will have to be with someone who either doesn't know who he is or whose career is equal to his.
Cathie8791 1 year ago
@barnesfam, are you serious? LMP was the love of his life?! He may have loved but, probably wasn't in love with her. I used to think that way too, until I really started researching just how turmultuous their whole history being together was. Now I think quite the contrary.
chrisbwirey 2 years ago 4
Michael is so cute "Girlfriend had my nose wide open"! LOL I Love You MJ Forever
MrsJacksonIfUNasty01 2 years ago 3
wat does that mean?? i dont get it???
MIGHToKONdriak 2 years ago
it means
nose wide open like a dog in heat, a guy can smell that the female is in heat. He has the hots for you!
All that nasty stuff girl does for him, got his "nose wide open"
I got that from an urban dictionary website
muffincarolyn 2 years ago
hahah thanks!!
MIGHToKONdriak 2 years ago
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BeauitifulMJForever 2 years ago
i dont remember listenin 2 this 1 be4
kierakeepitfresh09 2 years ago
OMG! I never knew this side of Michael. This is the saddest thing I've heard from him "I want to be with someone. I want to know what a relationship is all about before I die, can't you understand that girl?" OMG. He never found that someone, that's so tragic.
ajhello25 2 years ago 7
@ajhello25 Actually, he did. He found Lisa Marie. Even though their marriage didn't last for long, he did experience marriage and I think that out of all the women Michael's been in a relationship with, Lisa Marie was the love of his life.
barnesfam 2 years ago
Oh...wow, that's different! :D Michael is talking about...sex and women!!! :D God, he is TOTALLY a real man!!! :D I miss him sooooooo much right now, damn it!!!
thisisitluvmjj 2 years ago 30
@thisisitluvmjj hello, can you tell me who this kathy is?
zarifa7 1 year ago
Can someone tell me who are Kathy and Melissa?
Schnabbel 2 years ago
i still dont get which woman he was talkin about.
een110 2 years ago
in which part of the conversation?
rrrmm5 2 years ago
@rrrmm5 like, all of the woman. im getting confused.
een110 2 years ago
ok, Melissa was the first one, a dance instructor on the Dang. rehearsals, she loved him, then he speaks of Kathy, just a friend i think, but on other tapes I've heard, it appears something happened between them at one stage. Tate is Tatum O'Neal, they dated in the late70's. then Diana Ross, he was in love with her. He thought they were together, but she fooled around on him. He says here they didn't have sex, but in Moonwalk he calls her "my lover"...something went on between them...con't
rrrmm5 2 years ago 3
you don't take "years" to get over a mere crush, and in an Ebony interview in 82, he was sure he was going to marry her. She broke his heart and at the 86 AMA's he was very cold and angry with her. I believe they had an affair that was kept under wraps. I don't think he's always on the level with Glenda, he holds back, certainly with things concerning Diana. Type in Michael Jackson American music awards 1986 part 2. he's angry cos Diana had just gotten married. he looks gorgeous, but pissed off!
rrrmm5 2 years ago 4
i know right but im qettinq confuse now cause who is mellisa because i didnt hear him mention that name in these tapes
princesskeia13 2 years ago
Melissa's the one that turns up at his office here, but on other tapes he talks about her and uses her name. She worked on the Dang. rehearsals and was clearly in love with him. He says he's gonna be with her, and on another tape Glenda says what's happening with Melissa and mike says "nothing, not NOW" then Glenda says "aw cmon, nothing?" and Mike laughs and says "not now", and he didn't want Kathy knowing about her..lol..
rrrmm5 2 years ago 2
He didnt want kathy to know he had a son. Listen to it again.
jacbro33 2 years ago 3
I know, I can hear that thru my headphones..didn't want to say anything though..lol
rrrmm5 2 years ago
ooo lol... but where can you find the vma 86 because its seem interseresting
princesskeia13 2 years ago
they were on ut, not sure if they still are, I have over 100 dvds so I don't really use ut that much. I just had another listen to the Melissa convo I have, and he's dating another girl he won't name, and she gets nasty with Melissa when they're all at a function together and mike says "she knows what happened between me and Melissa so she doesn't like her". Melissa got upset and Mike told his girl to "be nice", then he tells Glenda nothings going on with Melissa now.
rrrmm5 2 years ago
i luked up the 86 ama's but didnt find it
michaeljackson1018 2 years ago
watch his face when she hugs Lionel and tell me he's not pissed off! lol..then he calls up Elizabeth for support. She knew. He told her everything.
rrrmm5 2 years ago 3
@rrrmm5
you should listen to this interview with the jasckson 5 called Jackson 5 Interview (RARE FULL VERSION) and mike talk about what type of girl he like and he say something like a girl with big eyes and what do diana ross have LOL...... ill let you finish that question
princesskeia13 2 years ago
he loved DR all his life, he even left his kids to her if anything happens to Mama while they're still kids. That's love IMO.
rrrmm5 2 years ago 3
@rrrmm5 on what video?i just learn about the Glenda`s tapes,i would like to know more
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i don't understand it, who's Melissa and who is Kathy?!
jackmilo123 2 years ago
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jackmilo123 2 years ago
I don't understand the nose thing. What's up with that?
85danicalifornia 2 years ago
it simply means being madly in love.
rrrmm5 2 years ago 3
(scratches head) sorry i didn't know that ;-)
85danicalifornia 2 years ago
when some one has your nose wide open it means they can do and get anything from you. They have your undivided attention
Godwill3 2 years ago
@Godwill3
oooo lol that explain alot cause i was like wtf mj talking about
princesskeia13 2 years ago
I'm sorrta confused....was Mike talkin' to Kathy?
bebreezy93 2 years ago
which part are you asking about? He's talking about 2 women here, Melissa says she loves him and he says he's gonna be with her, and Kathy, well, she didn't know about Melissa..lol..
rrrmm5 2 years ago
in another tape, he indicates something happened between him and Kathy, but then he decided to stay friends, Melissa winds up dating someone "in the house" as he puts it, he probably meant on tour, and Mike admits to being totally faithful to S. He really loved that girl.
rrrmm5 2 years ago
Maybe it's about Omer Bhatti?
Mexxel300 2 years ago
who is kathy? is she another 1 of his friends he new 4 yrs and like secretly dated her or something cus im in the dark here? help me out.
EJAanime 2 years ago
Kathy was a nurse, that either hung out with Randy or dated him, but she took an interest in Mike too, on other tapes he talks about something that happened between them, but he just wanted to stay friends, and Melissa and Kathy didn't know about each other..lol..
rrrmm5 2 years ago
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rrrmm5 2 years ago
soo is she the mosther of his son or something? & whoo is Melissa
will u make a clearer version of this audio or at least re caption the words so we know everything they r saying.
& is it really his son if b/c im sure hes states the whole not till im married method is how he chooses to live.
EJAanime 2 years ago
check your inbox, I'm going to reply to you personally..
rrrmm5 2 years ago
really?! are you FOR SURE she asks about his "Son"?
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rrrmm5 2 years ago
damn i wonder what girl he was talking about. first he said he hung out with a woman, had lunch, said that she loves but michael doesn't want to call her. but he also says he did like her and she knew that. truth is i don't know if this is tatiana or another woman he liked. but i prefer this than the rabbi.
bigvinamac 2 years ago
there's 8 hours of tapes and I have heard most of them. The girl is Melissa, a dance coordinator who says she loves him, and he says he's gonna be with. He's not talking about Tatiana on this tape, he talks about her on another one.
rrrmm5 2 years ago
I have a good set of headphones and can hear alot more than is written, and it blows me away. Listen to 3:58 and also 4:27 straight after Glenda says "did you ever tell Kathy"...I wanna see if my ears are hearing right, and if they are, this is amazing. Joe might have been telling the truth about Omer...
rrrmm5 2 years ago
And who is Kathy???
tinazg06 2 years ago
Sorry but my english isn't that good! WHat does MJ mean by saying "Girlfriend had my nose wide open....it's a black thang"...
Can anybody help me pleaseeee?
merseygirl7 2 years ago
when some one has your nose wide open it means they can do and get anything from you. They have your undivided attention
Godwill3 2 years ago
Since he's talking about his first experiences on romantic level, he's defenitly talking about Tatum O'Neal.
SjimmieVeenhuis 2 years ago
is he talking about taitum from The Way you make me Feel/ or taitum o'neal? b/c he keeps calling her Tate?
EJAanime 2 years ago
Tate is Tatum O'Neal. He also mentions Tatiana at one point (not in the YT parts) and he basically says she's a stalker and she goes on TV to tell lies that she was in a relationship with him. Which is not true.
Kostyasch 2 years ago
lol, yeah I heard that too. He said Tatiana was too clingy and chased him too much. From what I can gather, he liked to do the chasing when it came to women, and didn't like them doing the chasing, that's the mistake Tatiana made.
rrrmm5 2 years ago
Does anyone know what girl he's talking about,and what is the situation that happened, between him and the girl.
Who's the girl????
141414161616 2 years ago
lol glenda reminds me of one of my friends..and she really reminded me of one of my friends when michael said " she can drive a truck through my nose" ...
just like my friend i could say something like that ..and she will laugh but she will never get it ntil i explain it ...lol
cenalover386 2 years ago
Who do they talk about?
MJJlover95 2 years ago
Ok, I've listened to this part 3 times
I believe the girl that he is talking about could just be a random girl. I'm sure he was interested in other girls besides Brooke Shields.
youthinkyourecute 2 years ago 5
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After listening to this I've come to the conclusion, that there was nothing odd about him. He was just afraid to be in a relationship, because of celebrity status, and how cruel his father was to his mother, and seeing his brothers cheating on their wives with groupies. There must have been times where he was turned off by love completely!
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And I totally understand why he became that way. My parents divorced when I was a teenager. My father was verbally abusive to my mother. I grew up not knowing what a loving relationship is, and still have a hard time being in a loving relationship, even in my early 30's.
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youthinkyourecute 2 years ago
its good hering mj voice again since he died r.i.p. the king of pop,rock,soul iam a 1#fan from keke
SuperPrinces123 2 years ago