As an air cav guru , yes former marine air crewman you are wrong. Not the Brits , us army nor seals. It was 21st sqd SAS in 1974. Attached to that unit was LT COL j Formann, my former CG 2nd Mar Div. he instituted this fast rope technique at HQ FMF in 1978.
serious question: wouldn't it take less time to land? if not, why? I read the description but it didn't explain why this one couldn't land in this situation
funny. i have never landed with anyone on the ground telling me what to do. i might need to get me one of these pathfinders. do they sell em at walmart?
I used to do that. It was cool when you got out from under the copter and the rotor wash would hit you in the back. It was like a turbo boost. Especially with a heavy ruck.
@fatmothafacker I measure a pilot's skill level by seeing how steady he can keep the bird while his packs are fast-roping in the middle of the night. Having a bird drift horizontally while fast-roping in complete darkness is pretty scary...
like this hasent happend to a brit before. besides this aint the cream of the marine corp they r more amphibious assault. let the army take care of airborne and air assault.the marines r a bit cocky in their ways, but every military has their screw ups the difference is these guys were caught on tape screwing up
Even worse, humans who refuse to face realities out of egotistical hubris--like the USMC will make mistakes OFTEN and not correct them or even make incremental improvements...
Hey. All combat forces are equal. The U.S.A. and Britain are allies so why argue and poke fun at each other. They both have the capability to kill and you can't just judge American's just because you dislike or hate them. I think the SAS and Navy Seals are equal. I think the RAF and USAF are equal. They both got weapons. They both can kill. Lets stop being biased and saying one side is better than the other.
good way to put it. all of my friends say the navy seals can beat the marines, but all I said to them was "Aren't they on the same team?" they glared at me, looked confused, and found something else to argue about.
thats what bothers me too, the fact is they are all fighting for the same cause (or on the same team if you choose) but the reality is they still have the same human flaws as anyone else, ie proving their d**k is bigger then that guys, and that they can beat them in a fist fight. Sadly humanity will never grow up.
ya know what really makes no sense about this is that the chopper is above either a carrier or an lph or lhd why didnt they just land..most have been some sorta training exercise I guess cause it certainly wasn't a boarding
i had a teacher in high school was a marine. he used to be a world class runner, but he'll never run well again because of fast-roping. he was 60 feet from the ground when his pilot dropped the choppper about 35 feeet (they think he sneezed, the official ruling was a rapid downdraft or air pocket....) he lost grip and fell from about 60 feet only making contact with the rope once when the chopper stopped dropping. blew out both his kneecaps... training... the corps can never give those back
Yes, but must we the tax payers pay for their antics? Couldn't they form their own privately-funded Jack-Ass club in camo to do this and leave national defense tasks to the pros?
That's an interesting analysis and innovative solution, but did you really need all of the anti-Corps editorializing? BTW, why would they establish a perimeter when they're landing on a friendly deck?
You fight as you practice. This should be practice for a war insertion onto a hostile-controlled ship deck. If the USMC wasn't so screwed-up while simultaneously boasting that its perfect there'd be no need to point out their hypocrisy and incompetence. If you don't attack the USMC ego the reality of the problem will be dismissed with smug victim-itis "we've always done it this screwed up way" etc. etc.
As an air cav guru , yes former marine air crewman you are wrong. Not the Brits , us army nor seals. It was 21st sqd SAS in 1974. Attached to that unit was LT COL j Formann, my former CG 2nd Mar Div. he instituted this fast rope technique at HQ FMF in 1978.
tanhelmet 3 weeks ago
@tanhelmet 21st Squadron SAS IS BRITISH. Thanks for the info.
dynmicpara 2 weeks ago
@thewistleboy omFG. seriously? not everything is Mw2/Mw3 shit
macyND 1 month ago
Through the hell hole baby!
mondoredondo 2 months ago
He raped the flight deck with his ass....
USMCForceRecon100 4 months ago
Red shirts have got their swag on
raptor22able 7 months ago
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Kaapo73 8 months ago
@Kaapo73 Mea Culpa! I thought I had fixed the links to DOT ORG...they are fixed now!
dynmicpara 8 months ago
@Kaapo73 @Kaapo73 COMBATREFORMORG ARE WORKING LINKS!
IGNORE old combatreformcom links.
dynmicpara 2 weeks ago
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Kaapo73 8 months ago
@Future747Pilot i didnt even know it was!
christhegreatish 9 months ago
Ow MAH ASS!
NoOdL3z18 1 year ago
I always thought fast roping is a limited and sorta stupid insertion technique...maybe they should call it - "Goat Roping"
Stalicone 1 year ago
@Stalicone I would hardly call what they where doing "Fast". It was more of a hovering practice.
AirspaceProductions 1 year ago
ohh god that looks fun same as HALO jumping im gunna go to college soon and get a degree and be a CO
IVIanydeaths 1 year ago
ass landing
putinniu 1 year ago
if it was an real assult they would comeout way faster??
coz at this speed they will all get shot..
heywatchme101 1 year ago
@thewistleboy this isnt call of duty, its real life so there is no respawn if you screw up.
skoolboyification 1 year ago
@skoolboyification exactly i hate when people compare a game to a real life duty that people risk there lives everyday to do
2dittoz 1 year ago
@thewistleboy Someone plays MW2...
fbkrazy56 1 year ago
serious question: wouldn't it take less time to land? if not, why? I read the description but it didn't explain why this one couldn't land in this situation
JackHabbit 1 year ago
what he didnt fall he just landed in the seated position
benspreen 1 year ago
didnt seem that quick it could have landed and dropped them off in that time i bet the sas would have done it quicker
kingfisher44 1 year ago
fortunately, that happened in a safe zone, but this heli would be really vulnerable if performing in a hot zone !
blackwinter2 1 year ago
and how many people can fit in that..
unitedforever7 1 year ago
nice
SKYCAM20196 1 year ago
funny. i have never landed with anyone on the ground telling me what to do. i might need to get me one of these pathfinders. do they sell em at walmart?
txtallywhacker 1 year ago
@txtallywhacker ASK THE FAMILIES OF ALL THE DEAD men who didn't have Pathfinders who got ambushed instead....
dynmicpara 2 weeks ago
wow, after the 6th guy i was like sweet...the injury must be soon, but its a pavelow..theres 14 people left lol
Calizor 1 year ago
goddamn that must have smart
SemperFuckinFi 1 year ago
Been there done that. You learn the first time...
reconcharlie 1 year ago
Been there done that. You learn the first time...
reconcharlie 1 year ago
I used to do that. It was cool when you got out from under the copter and the rotor wash would hit you in the back. It was like a turbo boost. Especially with a heavy ruck.
jtp0321 1 year ago
"The slider/pad/carry bag could use WATER as ballast that can be jettisoned to lighten the Soldier's Load once the fast rope is stuffed inside."
Or sand. theres plenty of that where their stationed at the moment!
Thats a good idea. BTW
tek5828 2 years ago
Gotta admit the Pilot was really good.
blade990 2 years ago 6
It's AFCS. That's what makes the CH-53 so stable in the air.
Neillil411 2 years ago
good pilot
fatmothafacker 2 years ago 26
@fatmothafacker I measure a pilot's skill level by seeing how steady he can keep the bird while his packs are fast-roping in the middle of the night. Having a bird drift horizontally while fast-roping in complete darkness is pretty scary...
holdrich 10 months ago
i wanna get behind the stick of one of those!
kameronbc21 3 years ago 6
The description you wrote, is the best description of any video i have ever seen and i seen more then 11 000...
GoodEvenings 3 years ago 7
my friend is in the milatary and he told me that comeing down like that is fun but one of his team fucked it up at the TOP and fell to his death
benwoodsk8 3 years ago 2
like this hasent happend to a brit before. besides this aint the cream of the marine corp they r more amphibious assault. let the army take care of airborne and air assault.the marines r a bit cocky in their ways, but every military has their screw ups the difference is these guys were caught on tape screwing up
paulguy89 3 years ago 2
Strong hand, weak hand, hook the foot, turn and go.
Clayxbmx 3 years ago 7
look at the horizon to tell how much that deck is pitching...have to have a good eye to judge when your going to hit the deck
fliguyman06 3 years ago 3
Isn't that the Iwo Jima? Im supposed to deploy on that ship as part of the 26th MEU.
younggrunt0311 3 years ago
frostmourne18 writes:
"even me a corpsman can fast rope properly lol."
dynmicpara 3 years ago
i bet even you a human can make mistakes
greywolf109 3 years ago 4
Even worse, humans who refuse to face realities out of egotistical hubris--like the USMC will make mistakes OFTEN and not correct them or even make incremental improvements...
dynmicpara 3 years ago
Hey. All combat forces are equal. The U.S.A. and Britain are allies so why argue and poke fun at each other. They both have the capability to kill and you can't just judge American's just because you dislike or hate them. I think the SAS and Navy Seals are equal. I think the RAF and USAF are equal. They both got weapons. They both can kill. Lets stop being biased and saying one side is better than the other.
undertake782 3 years ago 3
The mother of all FALSE statements.
Different things are not the same aka "equal".
What you want is a relativity "smokescreen" to not pay attention to details which is the height of incompetence.
dynmicpara 3 years ago
The SBS are the equivalent of Navy SEALS
Sparks127 3 years ago
good way to put it. all of my friends say the navy seals can beat the marines, but all I said to them was "Aren't they on the same team?" they glared at me, looked confused, and found something else to argue about.
sonic81524 3 years ago 5
THE USMC DOESN'T SEE ITSELF AS ON THE USA TEAM. They think their shit doesn't stink...and frankly we are sick of smelling it.
dynmicpara 3 years ago
Smell some more
RUSSIAisPRIMITIV 2 years ago
thats what bothers me too, the fact is they are all fighting for the same cause (or on the same team if you choose) but the reality is they still have the same human flaws as anyone else, ie proving their d**k is bigger then that guys, and that they can beat them in a fist fight. Sadly humanity will never grow up.
ChaosFF7 2 years ago 6
ya know what really makes no sense about this is that the chopper is above either a carrier or an lph or lhd why didnt they just land..most have been some sorta training exercise I guess cause it certainly wasn't a boarding
staloki 3 years ago
Incidentally, Mike. Yes, I do think weighted lines are a good idea.
MajMcGav 3 years ago 3
i had a teacher in high school was a marine. he used to be a world class runner, but he'll never run well again because of fast-roping. he was 60 feet from the ground when his pilot dropped the choppper about 35 feeet (they think he sneezed, the official ruling was a rapid downdraft or air pocket....) he lost grip and fell from about 60 feet only making contact with the rope once when the chopper stopped dropping. blew out both his kneecaps... training... the corps can never give those back
ghett0fabu1as 3 years ago 3
killpath writes:
"Army Strong 11b HOOAH!!"
dynmicpara 3 years ago
they're JARHEADS! That's why they do the things they do!
brock10brock 3 years ago
Yes, but must we the tax payers pay for their antics? Couldn't they form their own privately-funded Jack-Ass club in camo to do this and leave national defense tasks to the pros?
dynmicpara 3 years ago
USMC cant jump! HOOAH! RANGERS!
1297236 4 years ago 4
I'm pretty sure they're not supposed to jump. In fact, I think the idea is to slide down the rope. GO ARMY! TAKE THE NAVY WITH YOU!
BadFishBad 3 years ago 4
TheTBagg writes:
"Ha ha ha. He said "GO ARMY! TAKE THE NAVY WITH YOU!" Oh man he said that. Ohhh... That's a good one."
dynmicpara 3 years ago
That's an interesting analysis and innovative solution, but did you really need all of the anti-Corps editorializing? BTW, why would they establish a perimeter when they're landing on a friendly deck?
darnitalltohell 4 years ago 2
You fight as you practice. This should be practice for a war insertion onto a hostile-controlled ship deck. If the USMC wasn't so screwed-up while simultaneously boasting that its perfect there'd be no need to point out their hypocrisy and incompetence. If you don't attack the USMC ego the reality of the problem will be dismissed with smug victim-itis "we've always done it this screwed up way" etc. etc.
dynmicpara 4 years ago