@333333ahmed are you sure you want to talk about accuracy? There is a difference between power and accuracy. Crocrop is a big dude, cung le is as tall as my little sister. If you think that Cung Le is not accurate you should obviously go back to watching care bear re-runs on youtube and avoid these type of uploads.
@BigBearfromthe206 well, it's not as easy as you think it is to grab someone's leg while they legitly kick you, full force. most of the time you would just be trying to aviod/block it unless the kicks pretty weak, but we all know cung's kicks are farrr from being "weak" :)
@joe209ca Not really just a different style of striking. Anderson behaves more like a boxer. He feels out his opponent and sets up his attack and is careful not to over commit. Le is a more typical eastern style striker. He likes to charge in. It's straight ahead and damn the torpedoes.
He does look like an asshole. Idk i've yet to meet Cung but from some people that have known him they say he's pretty arrogant, most of the time he pretends to be nice but talk shit later.
@wayprods how is he a dick...he is very respectful. Nicer and more well mannered than any UFC fighter i have ever seen. dont talk if you have no clue what you are talking ABOUT.
Sounds like you have a man-crush there, Chris. How cute.
I wouldn't speak if I have "no clue" what I'm talking about - we only happen to have mutual friends with Cung Le, that own property that he and his bff Channing Tatum come here to use.
Maybe if you're real nice Chrissy, he'll let you suck his dick. You've certainly earned it. Have a great day!
@wayprods such a dick comment, I don't see how you have any room to talk when all you say is trash about other people who you have never met. Shut the hell up you prick.
You *do* realize this slow verbal humiliation of yourself could've been avoided, and not broadcasted to everyone with a computer like it is being now, if you had just marked my comment with a thumbs-down? Right sweetie?
Again,
have a fantastic day. =) And Think of me before you go to bed. hahahahaha
@wayprods Im sorry correction tht you have mutual friends (again allegedly), so 1st your hearing a second hand story so in reality you don't know what your talking about, and second from what I see your a dick and from the way you talked to "chrissy" you might be gay...just sayin man I dont wanna 'broadcast my verbal humiliation" but you may want to reconsider your ealier comments
@wayprods You just seem to getting gayer and gayer, first I will have a great day, second of all just because my quote "womanly talk? unquote makes you look like a dipshit and proves you to have an IQ of 33 leave my asshole out of this, third I wouldent be your Girl friend...EVER because im not a girl, im not insane, and your probably really fat and do not do martial arts but just sign up to youtube to post hate comments on real fighters
@wayprods no tht is what I said last night, i was right here saying it too you...I know your delusional but this was just a lil while ago...and this last comment jsut proves that i win, I am the overlor of all nerdy people who like to fight on youtube. BOW BEFORE ME!!!!
@wayprods haha fucktards like you make me laugh, you spelled Overlord wrong, your gay comment was obviously a cry for help for your insecurity about your sexuality, listin man we wont judge you! your free to live your life how ever you want to!
@wayprods Your right this conversation is over, because first i never even used the word quote "however" unquote so there fore I cannot have possibly spelled it wrong. Secondly I did not spell OVERLORD wrong you didn't even put the last "D" in overlord you flaming blatant homosexual, third of all since you are obviously an 60 year old pedophile the only persons mouth you came into was your own while watching little league baseball, suck a chode
Wow.. when did I ever said anything bad about Viets? I'm defending Cung Le. Dmasterman is flaming Cung Le in all of Cung's videos. Are you stupid? I'm defending a fellow asian and here comes 2 asians against me?
And what does a "wannabe asian" mean? Are you stupid? You're asian, how can you be this stupid? There are no superior martial arts. Why, what if Cung Le mixed his San Shou techniques with his TKD and his wrestling skills all together? If he called it Cung San Shou, people would all be saying it's the best Art. You see, BJJ is a rip off of JJ. You can't just add some things to it and call it a different art; do you understand idiot? Now, tell me then, what can beat Cung San Shou?
BJJ lacks strikes, they are not permitted in BJJ. Thus it can't be superior to any other art than those who only contain takedowns, pins and chokes. in other words, it can only be superior to judo and wrestling. its not superior to wrestling though, 'cuz traditional BJJ (such as it is), relys on a GI and without a GI BJJ is submission wrestling. So what you are saying is that submission wrestling is superior to kickboxing? There is no comparison, to be a good MMA fighter, you need both
In order to demonstrate their art, the Gracies have tested their art against NUMEROUS stand up styles and proven their arts effectiveness.
Also depending on the skills of a ground fighter, they would know how to bypass take down defenses (that many mma fighters know and use to avoid going to the ground) he could actually get to the position of the fight where he can dominate. So really it comes to how well someone's ground offense and defense are.
Tony jaa should do MMA. He is athletic as GSP and his muay thai is top notch. I think he was be a force to be reckoned with at the lightweight division.
why are all of cung le's opponents pretty much morons? I've never seen one takedown attempt by any of the fighters he's faced. This seems very shady to me. Not even shamrock during the whole fight attempted to take him down even tho he has a background in wrestling. Why do people want to stand up with cung le? Anyone agreeing with me here?
Shamrock claimed he could beat cung le standing. And there was a takedown attempt at 7:25 but cung le's takedown defense is too awesome because of his background in San Shou.
you cant win fights off bjj alone , yeah bjj is a good art on the ground but wrestlers have ground game to if youve forgotten which is the reason why they have good transitions and defense against bjj , if bjj was that good why would anyone learn how to strike ??? think about it , ultimately you gotta mix it up and just cause a person choses to stand 99 percent of the time doesnt mean they dont have a ground game cause anderson silva is a perfect example of that and so is nick diaz......
Hey let's prove that I'm a troll, read my points and counter them. Otherwise, go back to your Elvis tracks and leave "MMA" talks to ppl who knows what they're talking about.
Chuwbacca, let's prove it. So you're arguing that Cung Le or any other MMA artist is fine with just one art? I'm saying that ppl need to extend to other arts to be more balance. Let's see what you got wookie.
also im from africa im not stating a martial art i do is from africa, but you in your name state your a ninja. even if you dont do that shit you still believe in it otherwise you wouldn't have used it
Alright Daboy, cause that's all you are...a boy, let's do this. Who taught BJJ to the Brazilians? A Japanese. Who taught Muay Thai to Anderson Silva? Thai. What type of fighting technics have an African taught anyone? Next time you want to be racist, do some research. Keep knocking about Ninjas lol, try very "hard" to find where I supported it as an art in MMA. Stop using Strawman arguments.
"Who taught bjj to the brazilians?" is akin to saying, "Who taught the Europeans Arabic numerals", and then saying all of the european achievements in math should therefore be credited to the Arabs.
First off the brazilians didn't learn traditional Ju Jutsu. What they learned was different, and it was heavily modified to be completely different than what traditional JuJutsu is. And it works. Period. Much better than other Asian arts :)
bjj is full of arrogant assholes bjj is a adaptation of judo what bjjdokas dont talk about is the effectiveness in the real work outs side the safety of a ring and ref 1 foot away 2 on one bjj is useless ... this is comming from the gracies own manual...
No martial art can really properly defend against multiple opponents. No matter what you do, your best option is to run. All I'm pointing out, is which style I'd prefer? BJJ or a stand up style?
I'd take BJJ due to it's extreme effectiveness against one on one. Attempting to stand against multiple opponents, no matter what style will just have your ass handed to you.
There are multiple videos here on youtube of single people fighting off multiple attackers. There are many martial arts that can prepare you for such senarios: Systema, Krav Maga, MCMAP, even some of the more traditional styles have the potential if you're trained correctly. My friend it is very possible to fight off multiple attackers.
Ive been doing it for a few years and ninja monkey is right japanese did bring it brazil then brazil changed it up a little bit then the gracie family changed it up a lot, what you see now is mainly gracie or brazilian jiu-jitsu not alot of japanese traditional jiu-jitsu and yes it does work but please spell it right if your gonna support it and most asian arts are so different you can not compare them they are meant for different situations
The Gracies turned it from one style into something completely different and effective. BJJ against Judo or Traditional Japanese Ju Jutsu, BJJ would win, because that's how different and effective it is.
Actually, Helio Gracie was beaten by a Judoka, Kimura.
BJJ is great, but a lot of this is due to the way they train, where traditional JJ is very light now in most schools. But traditional JJ is a mixed martial art, where BJJ is a traditional martial art that's been integrated into MMA. JJ usually has punches, kicks and throws as well as the ground game, all of which were legal. The sport of JJ, Judo, banned the techniques, but JJ itself wasn't a sport.
Son you don't know a damn thing you're talking about. Judo is the sport form of Jujutsu and BJJ is Jujutsu concepts applied more towards ground fighting. Look at any submission hold done on the ground and there is a standing version as well. Doubt me? I've only been training in martial arts for nine years.
LOL you don't know shit. Go do some research if you want to see my facts backed up.
BJJ is not based on Jujutsu. It's based on Kodokan Judo, a different form of Judo, unlike the sport Judo.
Second, majority of standing submissions are usually ineffective when attempting to pull off, which is why they're 100x more effective on ground. Get educated
I've been training in Martial arts for 15. What's your excuse son?
Sim calm down sister, read what's said. I'm the one that's saying Cung extending to other arts is good. Do you have selective reading or just a straight retarded? Maybe you got kicked in the head too many times in your San Shou sparring. Read what people say before posting your ignorant responses. We're agreeing on the same stuffs, I think you need to shut up, stop doing martial arts, and read.
HAHA, you mad! The noob is the one who keeps arguing with someone who agrees with him, Sim...seriously, learn to read man. The problem isn't because I'm not learning my martial arts, the problem is your comprehension skills.
was reading through your debate, but i gotta say you and dmaster are wrong. sanda is perfect on its own and can stand up to anything. cung le is hte living proof. sure he took wrestling but the nigga doesnt need it
If it was, he wouldn't be sprawling on take downs and I'm sure he's just taking BJJ for kicks. The guy is a great Sanda/San Shou practitioner but he isn't an idiot. Right wings are saying that his Sanda is end all and Left wingers are saying that a grappler would own him and I get all this hate for being smack in the middle. Ah well, worth the price to pay for not being a bias moron.
You are probably new to the online avatars huh concept? If by going on your logic, I must think rock and roll is awesome in MMA as well huh? Who lives in a cave now? I'm sure by your name Legion, you probably either are a Roman warrior or a demonic worshipper. See how stupid that sounds?
The bullshit is you saying that Sanda is perfect on its own. Yea Cung has been successful because his base is sanda/sanshou but he is also successful because he incorporates wrestling and BJJ into it as well. It's moronic to say that Sanda is all you need because someone who uses it as a "base" is successful. If it's "THAT" perfect, why is Cung the "only" successful sanda guy in MMA? Open and shut case my friend.
Think about it son. It all comes down to who has the superior ground game skills. If a good ground fighter knew how to take Cung Le down, neutralize his take down defenses, he'd bring cung le into a world of hurt. Pretty much a Gracie.
But cung has decent ground defense like liddell doin the whole reverse wrestling shit. But a lot of cungs opponents have been idiots who stand up with him
BJJ alone is not good enough. What if you go up against a muay thai who also knows BJJ? You will be dead. Besides, good fighters are not stupid. They won't allow you to take them to the ground so easily.
You don't get it. It will come down to who has the SUPERIOR ground game. If a lone BJJ guy goes against a BJJ/MT fighter, it will come down to who has the better ground. Why? Because a superior ground fighter would know how to take down the BJJ/MT fighter, getting past takedown defenses. Ultimately leading do the ground where he will use his superior ground game to neutralize his opponent and submit him. A guy with superior bjj can beat a guy with moderate stand up and ground game.
You don't get it. If all that was needed was BJJ then nobody would learn anything else. The fact is that Royce Gracie has lost and so have his disciples. How did Rashad Evens defeat so many guys who knew BJJ? It's not so easy to take somebody down when they know what you are trying to do.
The fact is that most wins are due to punches and kicks, not submissions. Royce Gracie only had success because few people knew how to defend against BJJ back then. Having a ground game is necessary, but you cannot consistently win without knowing how to strike. All you have to do is be able to defend from a take-down. Frank Mir and Randy Couture both have better ground skills than Brock Lesnar but they both lost to him because he could punch harder.
No, it really comes down to who has the better ground game. Many fighters who don't use submissions to win rely more on trying to get to a position to stand up.
Ground fighting negates to stand up, while stand up CAN'T negate to ground (see the BJJ vs stand up fighst)
Also Brock did have decent ground skills, and the guy basically just stayed on top of Couture and controlled him to tire him out. Eventually catching a hook.
Also, Randy kept standing up. And all he did was lay on mir and punch
How did he get on Mir? Punching him. How did he beat Couture? Punching him. Both had much more ground experience and Mir had BJJ. How did he beat Heath Herring? Punching him. Herring has BJJ. BJJ can't help you when someone smashes your jaw and knocks you silly
@jackzero99 Not necessarily. If your BJJ is better than his, you will be able to take your opponent down and control him, causing him to be useless, and neutralizing his ability to sprawl and brawl or use his jitsu in reverse. Royce Gracie fought many guys in early UFC who DID know both. Ken Shamrock, Kimo Leopoldo, and several others who were good strikers but also were versed in wrestling. Superior ground neutralized and destroyed them.
@greviousuxsaber Early on it was the deciding factor in many fights, but now many people have figured out a defense for it. Look at guys like Liddell, Rampage and so on who don't know any BJJ. They made it to the top of the game by knowing how to defend against it. Brock Lesnar whooped the crap out of Frank Mir. Fedor Emilialenko is also a champ without BJJ.
@jackzero99 A true grappler would know how to bypass his opponent's takedown defense. Someone like Rickson could even take down Lidell, because by then a lot of jiu jitsu guys knew how to work the ground but not take it there anymore because people like Lidell only learned one angle of it. A better and true grappler ( a master ) with experience could overcome take down defense. so it really comes down to who has the better ground!
@greviousuxsaber Bullshit. Brock doesn't know any BJJ. He only knows the defense against it. Lidell is only a purple belt. Couture, Rampage, Tito Ortiz and Fedor don't know any BJJ. They are all great fighters and champs. Where are the master grapplers who can easily defeat them?
this is true; cunge le has really good stand up and uses his wrestling in reverse like chuck liddel, but if he was taken down by a surperior grappler he would be fucked worse than a girl on prom night
Ken barely went for takedowns and before the fight said he wanted to honor Cung Le by standing up. Most of his take downs happened after being injured
You're right Ken never went for takedowns cause it was Frank who fought Cung Le. But as for Frank, not even a minute into the fight he went for a clench and couldn't take Cung down. Maybe you should rewatch the fight. Frank tries way before he got hurt.
Same thing happened to Frank. His clinch's are things Sanda uses, not take downs.
But hey, if you want to believe Cung Le can beat up a good grappler like Penn, or a Gracie, go ahead. Lol, you probably tink Ninjutsu also works too. :)
Dude why are you using strawman arguments? Clenches, trips, single leg take downs, double leg take downs, are "ALL" tools in trying to take down an opponent. Frank could not "Take down" Cung Le even when he was fresh. You stated that if his opponents were smart they'd take him down and when confronted with Frank then you projected it on other people whom has never fought Cung Le. You probably think Masterbating works, see I can use names too.
A clinch isn't always an attempt to take down an opponent you fool. Go back to your ninja training son, while real Mixed martial artists discuss real things.
A clinch "isn't" always an attempt for a take down, but watch the Frank vs Cung fight, that particular clench was meant to take Cung down. I see you're giving up on the debate once it got on a detailed level huh? It's always common for someone who's out of arguments to resort in name calling and it's common for them to try to excuse themselves out ASAP. I'm still laughing at you using "Ken", obviously you don't know anything about what you're talking about, "son".
A clinch can be transitioned to a take down, but it's entire meaning isn't always that. Therefor Frank could've used it to gain better control or to gain inside hits.
Son, you better sit down before you fall down. And everyone seems to agree with me. LOL
LOL 2 idiots agreeing with you doesn't equal "everyone". Read this whole page and you'll see its got both sides. You knew Frank was going for a take down and couldn't, why would he clench and not drop a hit if he was going to do that? I mean when he did want to clench to throw elbows, he did it at the end? Wow, mystery solved!! You're those "NEW" MMA fans who had found out about "grappling", so u had to hate on any fighters who stands up. I can appreciate both aspects of the game. Owned?
The guy is indeed a striker but he has decent ground game, I don't think I have ever said that he's a grappling extraordinaire. The problem that we had was that you made it look like it was simple for someone to just take him down...it isn't. Then you cry about grapplers being able to beat him at grappling ROFL, "Your" lack of MMA is the problem. MMA means that you would have to be ready for everything, why would he worry about grappling a grappler if he has solid takedown defenses?
Find where I wrote that San Shou was the end all package. You like making shit up don't you? lol, just like having 2 guys at the end agree with you and then all of a sudden "EVERYONE" agrees with you. Read "ALL" the posts here and you'll see, "MOST" of them agrees with me. This guy has sick striking and great Takedown Defense. It's possible to submit him but it's not easy to take him down, don't try to make this into a Grappler vs Striker thing. He has high wrestling credentials, look into it.
Oh wait, I thought you said "Everyone" agreed with you. That's superlative talking there boy. But hey, glad to be a fanboy any day instead of an idiot. To each his own. By the way, have you checked his wrestling credentials yet and have you checked his wiki stating that he studies BJJ also? I'm sure "anyone" can just take him down and win now.
I love the way your arguments just dwindles and gets shorter and shorter each time. Remember the ones who agreed with you were idiots, it's a word trap to remind you of what you said so don't flatter yourself.
And these "facts" are? : ) Reversing our positions won't help you here. You don't sound like the great MMA analyst as before. Funny how you call me a fanboy when you're a Star Wars fanboy... really? A fan of Fiction was calling me out on being a fan of reality? ROFL!!!!
Ohh, I hit a nerve did I? You're trying to use videos I posted as some way to insult me? Lmao. But ya see, all I need to to "lol" at, is you have "Ninja" in your name. LOL
I caught your hypocrasy and you hit my nerve because of that? lol, man talk about mental gymnastics to try to get yourself out. I'll leave you alone kid, I know it must suck to never have a date. I should be more sensitive to people. I mean you aren't even fighting back on this MMA debacle anymore. Keep being a strong keyboard/armchair warrior.
Cung Le is good and all but San Shou isn't the end best of all martial art. I've practiced it, and if it was all I needed, I wouldn't be taking Judo and BJJ now would I?
Search for a vid called "BJJ vs San Shou". Should be here on youtube. A Sanda fighter gets mauled rather badly.
See you cant just let yourself be stuck to one art, you have to be versatile and mix things up like Bruce Lee said.
Sim, the guy's also a wrestler...he's not just San Shou. He has BJJ training as well, he just isn't a BJJ blackbelt. His bread and butter is his stand up, but like I've told Dumbmaster...Cung's aware that MMA means he'll have to face grapplers and he's built a decent take down defense game. He's no Jacare or Maia in grappling but he's great in what he does.
Wow this Dmasterman prick has been in all of Cung Le's video trying to talk smack about him. Do you not have a life? Cung Le is still undefeated. Learn something before you talk you piece of %^%#. Also, tell your nasty mother to kill herself, she is so ugly that she disgraces the human race
Wow, what a complete idiot you are. Dude, are both your parents retarded? Maybe it's probably your race. So, now you have a clear definition of how fights ought to be? Please, just be quiet and stop embarassing already pathetic family
You don't even offer an argument. If you're going to insult me at least bring up an argument. Unless you realize you don't have one, therefor you're agreeing with me but want to insult me for being right.
U're so dumb aziangirlluv. I'm defending Cung Le. He's my favorite MMA fighter and perhaps the best; he's undefeated and took down Frank Shamrock pretty easily. Don't you see Dmasterman's comments about Cung Le? He's saying that Cung Le cannot take anyone in UFC.
You denying the fact that Cung Le has lost 2 out of, what, 38 K1 fights? Or that he is undefeated in MMA? Those are facts, thus it's fair to assume he's an awesome fighter. Also, his starring the upcoming tekken movie is a decision made AFTER he was already a succesful martial artist
No, you apparently did not even read what I said, other than a few comments.
Cung is a Vietnamese who doesn't do Vietnamese martial arts. Fact.
As for the Tekken movie, expect shit. Cung Le is NOT an actor, and they got him to play a white american biker. Good choice no?! The movie is being made by douchebags who have never played the game (and since you seem excited about it, I'll assume that too).
The film will blow.
But the point is: Cung is a Vietnamese who doesn't do viet arts.
Well the movie just got even worse, since Danny Chan dropped out as playing Law. And now Cung Le isn't playing Paul anymore. But whatev, the film is still going to suck major balls.
he has no accuracy in his kick or his punches crocop needed only one kick, lee needs hunderd kick to finish the fight
333333ahmed 7 months ago
@333333ahmed
crocop was a heavyweight dude. can't compare striking power.
BeefPapa 6 months ago
@333333ahmed are you sure you want to talk about accuracy? There is a difference between power and accuracy. Crocrop is a big dude, cung le is as tall as my little sister. If you think that Cung Le is not accurate you should obviously go back to watching care bear re-runs on youtube and avoid these type of uploads.
renshumainichi 6 months ago
wow his kicks are incredible. I'm just wondering why they don't grab his legs when he kicks and take him down? is he too fast, or do they just suck?
BigBearfromthe206 7 months ago
@BigBearfromthe206 well, it's not as easy as you think it is to grab someone's leg while they legitly kick you, full force. most of the time you would just be trying to aviod/block it unless the kicks pretty weak, but we all know cung's kicks are farrr from being "weak" :)
DespairIIIX 7 months ago
why didn´t you put original sound instead of crappy music
h1rysan 1 year ago
lol I love the way he was poking his face at him, taunting him then he got knocked out
jjjaaaccckkk 1 year ago
CUNG LE WOULD OWN ANDERSON STANDING
pigioneater 1 year ago
You can tell this guy is a way better striker then anderson..just not as good with seting up his shots.
joe209ca 1 year ago
@joe209ca Not really just a different style of striking. Anderson behaves more like a boxer. He feels out his opponent and sets up his attack and is careful not to over commit. Le is a more typical eastern style striker. He likes to charge in. It's straight ahead and damn the torpedoes.
osensei2987 1 year ago
he punch him many times but man is stil on his feet he have week punch and kick
zoloticalen96 1 year ago
@zoloticalen96 its not that they are weak, but if you put to much effort into a said strike and miss you cant correct yourself.
cabbboose 1 year ago
I prefer this Video with no Music...
The Music is in the fight.
chenzenzo 1 year ago 7
@chenzenzo sweet chin music.. lol
TheFatCampCrew 2 months ago
Shamrock is one tough motherfucker!!! makes it even more awesome to see him get pwned.
smootube123 1 year ago
sad little kids having an internet fight haha
CRileymcr 1 year ago
he deserves to be arrogant, they say his better than the legend himself bruce lee, even the comparison itself would make anyone arrogant.
nimz021 1 year ago
He does look like an asshole. Idk i've yet to meet Cung but from some people that have known him they say he's pretty arrogant, most of the time he pretends to be nice but talk shit later.
ItzCashew 1 year ago
i like it more with music
DreyDaKilla 1 year ago
Cung Le fights equally well in all three circles. Just very impressive all the way around... <3
Lathica 1 year ago
He has some slick moves,
but in real life he's a dick.
wayprods 2 years ago
@wayprods how is he a dick...he is very respectful. Nicer and more well mannered than any UFC fighter i have ever seen. dont talk if you have no clue what you are talking ABOUT.
chrisinator111 1 year ago
@chrisinator111
Sounds like you have a man-crush there, Chris. How cute.
I wouldn't speak if I have "no clue" what I'm talking about - we only happen to have mutual friends with Cung Le, that own property that he and his bff Channing Tatum come here to use.
Maybe if you're real nice Chrissy, he'll let you suck his dick. You've certainly earned it. Have a great day!
wayprods 1 year ago
@wayprods such a dick comment, I don't see how you have any room to talk when all you say is trash about other people who you have never met. Shut the hell up you prick.
chrisinator111 1 year ago
@chrisinator111
..."any room to talk" ???
Umm... yeah, suuuure Chris. "room."
You *do* realize this slow verbal humiliation of yourself could've been avoided, and not broadcasted to everyone with a computer like it is being now, if you had just marked my comment with a thumbs-down? Right sweetie?
Again,
have a fantastic day. =) And Think of me before you go to bed. hahahahaha
wayprods 1 year ago
@wayprods haha so wait how is cung le a dick? you just said you met him (Allegedly) but you never gave any evidence to his attitude bieng malo
OnCuz98 1 year ago
@wayprods Im sorry correction tht you have mutual friends (again allegedly), so 1st your hearing a second hand story so in reality you don't know what your talking about, and second from what I see your a dick and from the way you talked to "chrissy" you might be gay...just sayin man I dont wanna 'broadcast my verbal humiliation" but you may want to reconsider your ealier comments
OnCuz98 1 year ago
@OnCuz98
HAHAHAHAHAHAA!!! DID YOU REALLY HAVE TO WRITE SOMETHING *TWO* WHOLE TIMES??!?? XD LAMEASS!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!!!
wayprods 1 year ago
@wayprods You wrote an entire post in caps...an im the lame ass, besides didnt you write, quote "HAHAHAHAHAHAAA" unquote, twice in your post?
OnCuz98 1 year ago
@OnCuz98
Yes I did. - WoW! OnCuz You're soo smart!! WoW!
And Yes, to your earlier question, you ARE a lame-ass.
But I love guys like you OnCuzzy - because all your womanly talk makes your assholes nice and soft.
I don't like you using "quote/unquote" though, so if you wanna be my girlfriend, you gotta cut that lame-ass way of speaking out.
Have a great day!
(And make sure to keep that asshole nice and clean for me. *wink*)
wayprods 1 year ago
@wayprods You just seem to getting gayer and gayer, first I will have a great day, second of all just because my quote "womanly talk? unquote makes you look like a dipshit and proves you to have an IQ of 33 leave my asshole out of this, third I wouldent be your Girl friend...EVER because im not a girl, im not insane, and your probably really fat and do not do martial arts but just sign up to youtube to post hate comments on real fighters
-Have a great Life...fatty :D
OnCuz98 1 year ago
@OnCuz98
That's not what you said *last night.* XD
wayprods 1 year ago
@wayprods no tht is what I said last night, i was right here saying it too you...I know your delusional but this was just a lil while ago...and this last comment jsut proves that i win, I am the overlor of all nerdy people who like to fight on youtube. BOW BEFORE ME!!!!
OnCuz98 1 year ago
@OnCuz98
Yes you *are* the "overlor" of nerdy people, BUT I DIDNT SAY YOU COULD TALK -- SO DONT YOU LET MY DICK OUT OF YOUR MOUTH ONE MORE TIME GOT IT?
wayprods 1 year ago
@wayprods haha fucktards like you make me laugh, you spelled Overlord wrong, your gay comment was obviously a cry for help for your insecurity about your sexuality, listin man we wont judge you! your free to live your life how ever you want to!
OnCuz98 1 year ago
@OnCuz98
No, *you* spelled it wrong.
You're also ignorant when it comes to spelling the following: "listen," "you're," and "however."
Glad I could make you laugh OnCuz - it was the least I could for cumming in your mouth.
This conversation is now over.
wayprods 1 year ago
@wayprods Your right this conversation is over, because first i never even used the word quote "however" unquote so there fore I cannot have possibly spelled it wrong. Secondly I did not spell OVERLORD wrong you didn't even put the last "D" in overlord you flaming blatant homosexual, third of all since you are obviously an 60 year old pedophile the only persons mouth you came into was your own while watching little league baseball, suck a chode
Sincerely yours,
Someone better than you
OnCuz98 1 year ago
1:25 nice punch, he asked for it.
aldxen 2 years ago
You failed us Le...how could you LOSE???
MyBelovedBengal 2 years ago
hahaha the second guy sucks ;D
carlosSANtkd 2 years ago
Le Cung
TheVietDragon 2 years ago
Cung Le is a boxer based on his movements. He punches more than he kickes :)
SinclairCeltics1990 2 years ago
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EverVk 2 years ago
Don't mind Everk, he's just mad that Viets > Chinese.
Yebin2 2 years ago
Wow.. when did I ever said anything bad about Viets? I'm defending Cung Le. Dmasterman is flaming Cung Le in all of Cung's videos. Are you stupid? I'm defending a fellow asian and here comes 2 asians against me?
EverVk 2 years ago
Viets > Chinese.
Learn that noob
Yebin2 2 years ago
Yeah but you don't know anything about martial arts, which proves dmasterguys points
aziangirlluv 2 years ago
Not at all. Otherwise the other martial arts that would have won would have recorded this.
BJJ is superior, you just dont' want to admit it.
What about all the times Vietnamese martial arts have lost?
Do you not accept those?
Dumb shit.
I'm chinese, and you're just a wannabe asian. You need to get your shit straight you douche bag.
simyijin2004 2 years ago
This is really bothering me.
I'm asian, and I've always thought our asian race was so smart.
How come now, these three asian idiots are flaming against me when I'm defending asians?
Don't you realize Dmasterman is saying?
He's saying that asians are poor fighters overall and that's why they're not represented in UFC.
He then claims that Cung Le is not as good as people say he is. Although he has an undefeated record, he can still not beat the UFC fighters.
EverVk 2 years ago
And what does a "wannabe asian" mean? Are you stupid? You're asian, how can you be this stupid? There are no superior martial arts. Why, what if Cung Le mixed his San Shou techniques with his TKD and his wrestling skills all together? If he called it Cung San Shou, people would all be saying it's the best Art. You see, BJJ is a rip off of JJ. You can't just add some things to it and call it a different art; do you understand idiot? Now, tell me then, what can beat Cung San Shou?
EverVk 2 years ago
BJJ lacks strikes, they are not permitted in BJJ. Thus it can't be superior to any other art than those who only contain takedowns, pins and chokes. in other words, it can only be superior to judo and wrestling. its not superior to wrestling though, 'cuz traditional BJJ (such as it is), relys on a GI and without a GI BJJ is submission wrestling. So what you are saying is that submission wrestling is superior to kickboxing? There is no comparison, to be a good MMA fighter, you need both
veshkeat 2 years ago
Explain this:
In order to demonstrate their art, the Gracies have tested their art against NUMEROUS stand up styles and proven their arts effectiveness.
Also depending on the skills of a ground fighter, they would know how to bypass take down defenses (that many mma fighters know and use to avoid going to the ground) he could actually get to the position of the fight where he can dominate. So really it comes to how well someone's ground offense and defense are.
simyijin2004 2 years ago
cung le have very good zoning skill, can keep alot of grappler at a distance.
DudeyeaU 2 years ago
Tony jaa should do MMA. He is athletic as GSP and his muay thai is top notch. I think he was be a force to be reckoned with at the lightweight division.
orangemysterio 2 years ago
ESE RODILLAZO CRIMINAL QUE LE METE AL TIO EN EL MINUTO 1:25, sigue como puede y PLIN... al suelo xD >> CunG Le el PUTO AMO !!
freem0rZ 2 years ago
why are all of cung le's opponents pretty much morons? I've never seen one takedown attempt by any of the fighters he's faced. This seems very shady to me. Not even shamrock during the whole fight attempted to take him down even tho he has a background in wrestling. Why do people want to stand up with cung le? Anyone agreeing with me here?
orangemysterio 2 years ago
Shamrock claimed he could beat cung le standing. And there was a takedown attempt at 7:25 but cung le's takedown defense is too awesome because of his background in San Shou.
123comp 2 years ago
because he's a damn good wrestler
kickpusher88 2 years ago
shamrock said he wanted to beat cung le at his own game, which was standing up.
which he tried, and failed
respectaiight 2 years ago
ninja monkey needs to die
xxrukiaxx1000 2 years ago
so knee and elbow are not allowed in this fight, right?
quanarius 2 years ago
No, knee's and elbows are allowed.
MartialArts4Ever 2 years ago
ninjamonkey is a sad troll.
trying to promote shitty ninjutsu.
While MMA is clearly better
EIvisMusic711 2 years ago
you cant win fights off bjj alone , yeah bjj is a good art on the ground but wrestlers have ground game to if youve forgotten which is the reason why they have good transitions and defense against bjj , if bjj was that good why would anyone learn how to strike ??? think about it , ultimately you gotta mix it up and just cause a person choses to stand 99 percent of the time doesnt mean they dont have a ground game cause anderson silva is a perfect example of that and so is nick diaz......
oskee72 2 years ago
Damn amazing versatile kicks... Cung Le is sick!
truendymion 2 years ago
Ninjamunkey is just this board's troll. Just thumbs down that noob.
EIvisMusic711 2 years ago
Hey let's prove that I'm a troll, read my points and counter them. Otherwise, go back to your Elvis tracks and leave "MMA" talks to ppl who knows what they're talking about.
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
Ninjamonkeyrocker learns his information from anime, not MMA. He's just a fat wannabe with a naruto headband
chuweiexperience 2 years ago
Chuwbacca, let's prove it. So you're arguing that Cung Le or any other MMA artist is fine with just one art? I'm saying that ppl need to extend to other arts to be more balance. Let's see what you got wookie.
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
nah son you need to chill back and shut the fuck up
daboyfromafrica0 2 years ago
also im from africa im not stating a martial art i do is from africa, but you in your name state your a ninja. even if you dont do that shit you still believe in it otherwise you wouldn't have used it
daboyfromafrica0 2 years ago
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu....CUNG LE , CUNG LE , CUNG LE , CUNG LE.. MASTEEEEEEEERRR...!!!
motomorfo 2 years ago
i just hope they will manage to put this Le in the same cage with Silva
CruSaD3Rs 2 years ago
lol silva would hammer le
ephasm 2 years ago
frank... that cocky son of a gun
sk8m4ng 2 years ago
Jeet Kune Do would be effective in the MMA.
xxCLOUDNGUYENxx 2 years ago
nup
simyijin2004 2 years ago
nigga BJJ is all you need
mistaspanktastic 2 years ago
Cung Le is a disgrace to Vietnamese. He has to use crappy other asians martial art cause he can't make vietnamese martial arts work. what a sucker
xxrukiaxx1000 2 years ago
you dont even know what is martial arts mean you dump dump boy.
HCHOMINH 2 years ago
First I'm a girl. Second you're a disgrace to Vietnamese. Third, its spelt "Dumb" not dump, you dumbass. Schooled.
xxrukiaxx1000 2 years ago
you tell him girl
Fupper16 2 years ago
Asians can't fight, top fighters are the blacks!
daboyfromafrica0 2 years ago
Alright Daboy, cause that's all you are...a boy, let's do this. Who taught BJJ to the Brazilians? A Japanese. Who taught Muay Thai to Anderson Silva? Thai. What type of fighting technics have an African taught anyone? Next time you want to be racist, do some research. Keep knocking about Ninjas lol, try very "hard" to find where I supported it as an art in MMA. Stop using Strawman arguments.
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
"Who taught bjj to the brazilians?" is akin to saying, "Who taught the Europeans Arabic numerals", and then saying all of the european achievements in math should therefore be credited to the Arabs.
vanity81 2 years ago
You don't know shit about BJJ do you?
First off the brazilians didn't learn traditional Ju Jutsu. What they learned was different, and it was heavily modified to be completely different than what traditional JuJutsu is. And it works. Period. Much better than other Asian arts :)
daboyfromafrica0 2 years ago
bjj is full of arrogant assholes bjj is a adaptation of judo what bjjdokas dont talk about is the effectiveness in the real work outs side the safety of a ring and ref 1 foot away 2 on one bjj is useless ... this is comming from the gracies own manual...
SanSuMartialArts 2 years ago
well its not like any other art is good for defending against multiple opponents
daboyfromafrica0 2 years ago
I don't think any martial art has a better chance against two guys.
BJJ has worked on the street (there's a rickson gracie street fight on a beach in Brazil)
but your right he'd probably get hurt if he fought more than one guy. But wouldn't anyone?
Dmasterman 2 years ago
Actually, modern combative systems are starting to devlop training methods for just that purpose. MCMAP and Russian Systema are good examples.
ShiningFist03 2 years ago
You must've replied to something I have forgotten.
MCMAP for what purpose?
Dmasterman 2 years ago
Fighting 2 or more opponents.
ShiningFist03 2 years ago
No martial art can really properly defend against multiple opponents. No matter what you do, your best option is to run. All I'm pointing out, is which style I'd prefer? BJJ or a stand up style?
I'd take BJJ due to it's extreme effectiveness against one on one. Attempting to stand against multiple opponents, no matter what style will just have your ass handed to you.
Dmasterman 2 years ago
There are multiple videos here on youtube of single people fighting off multiple attackers. There are many martial arts that can prepare you for such senarios: Systema, Krav Maga, MCMAP, even some of the more traditional styles have the potential if you're trained correctly. My friend it is very possible to fight off multiple attackers.
ShiningFist03 2 years ago
There is no art that can.
And I would actually like you to private message me some of these videos of actual fights with people fending them off.
Dmasterman 2 years ago
BJJ is just a modified version of jui-jitsu
Ive been doing it for a few years and ninja monkey is right japanese did bring it brazil then brazil changed it up a little bit then the gracie family changed it up a lot, what you see now is mainly gracie or brazilian jiu-jitsu not alot of japanese traditional jiu-jitsu and yes it does work but please spell it right if your gonna support it and most asian arts are so different you can not compare them they are meant for different situations
spedgren22 2 years ago
No it's a modified form of Judo.
The Gracies turned it from one style into something completely different and effective. BJJ against Judo or Traditional Japanese Ju Jutsu, BJJ would win, because that's how different and effective it is.
Therefor BJJ is surperior.
daboyfromafrica0 2 years ago
Actually, Helio Gracie was beaten by a Judoka, Kimura.
BJJ is great, but a lot of this is due to the way they train, where traditional JJ is very light now in most schools. But traditional JJ is a mixed martial art, where BJJ is a traditional martial art that's been integrated into MMA. JJ usually has punches, kicks and throws as well as the ground game, all of which were legal. The sport of JJ, Judo, banned the techniques, but JJ itself wasn't a sport.
elenchus 2 years ago
Son you don't know a damn thing you're talking about. Judo is the sport form of Jujutsu and BJJ is Jujutsu concepts applied more towards ground fighting. Look at any submission hold done on the ground and there is a standing version as well. Doubt me? I've only been training in martial arts for nine years.
ShiningFist03 2 years ago
LOL you don't know shit. Go do some research if you want to see my facts backed up.
BJJ is not based on Jujutsu. It's based on Kodokan Judo, a different form of Judo, unlike the sport Judo.
Second, majority of standing submissions are usually ineffective when attempting to pull off, which is why they're 100x more effective on ground. Get educated
I've been training in Martial arts for 15. What's your excuse son?
daboyfromafrica0 2 years ago
you really are a sad troll.
All you do is insult. Everyone was right. You're sad.
chuweiexperience 2 years ago
Damn I came back thinking there would be an MMA rebuttal. You got me beat at "pretending", yea I give up. Cya kid.
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
I think you should get real and actually Take San Shou and/or Sanda and understand it.
simyijin2004 2 years ago
I think you need to read what I wrote, we basically agreed on the same things. I'm pro-extending to other arts to improve oneself.
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
cung le is ghey
xIegionx 2 years ago
I think you need to shut up and take martial arts.
simyijin2004 2 years ago
Sim calm down sister, read what's said. I'm the one that's saying Cung extending to other arts is good. Do you have selective reading or just a straight retarded? Maybe you got kicked in the head too many times in your San Shou sparring. Read what people say before posting your ignorant responses. We're agreeing on the same stuffs, I think you need to shut up, stop doing martial arts, and read.
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
Try actually learning martial arts and stop getting your info from ninja anime you noob.
simyijin2004 2 years ago
HAHA, you mad! The noob is the one who keeps arguing with someone who agrees with him, Sim...seriously, learn to read man. The problem isn't because I'm not learning my martial arts, the problem is your comprehension skills.
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
Um.. No one gives a fuck what you say! LOL
Are you Cung Le? No.
Then shut up!
LOL no wonder everyone's picking on you ;)
coolguysarai11 2 years ago
was reading through your debate, but i gotta say you and dmaster are wrong. sanda is perfect on its own and can stand up to anything. cung le is hte living proof. sure he took wrestling but the nigga doesnt need it
LiIGrim 2 years ago
If it was, he wouldn't be sprawling on take downs and I'm sure he's just taking BJJ for kicks. The guy is a great Sanda/San Shou practitioner but he isn't an idiot. Right wings are saying that his Sanda is end all and Left wingers are saying that a grappler would own him and I get all this hate for being smack in the middle. Ah well, worth the price to pay for not being a bias moron.
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
Though i mostly agree with you, anyone who thinks ninjutsu is a working martial arts, is living in a cave.
xIegionx 2 years ago
You are probably new to the online avatars huh concept? If by going on your logic, I must think rock and roll is awesome in MMA as well huh? Who lives in a cave now? I'm sure by your name Legion, you probably either are a Roman warrior or a demonic worshipper. See how stupid that sounds?
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
whats all this bullshit about not knowing your martial arts.
LiIGrim 2 years ago
The bullshit is you saying that Sanda is perfect on its own. Yea Cung has been successful because his base is sanda/sanshou but he is also successful because he incorporates wrestling and BJJ into it as well. It's moronic to say that Sanda is all you need because someone who uses it as a "base" is successful. If it's "THAT" perfect, why is Cung the "only" successful sanda guy in MMA? Open and shut case my friend.
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
dude stop being a faggot
simyijin2004 2 years ago
You have a point. BJJ and San Shou work. But Ninjutsu is utter crap lllolll
daboyfromafrica0 2 years ago
Another person who's new to the online avatar thing. I suppose by your name, your style is African based right? See how much that makes sense? : )
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
nah son. BJJ is all you need.
Think about it son. It all comes down to who has the superior ground game skills. If a good ground fighter knew how to take Cung Le down, neutralize his take down defenses, he'd bring cung le into a world of hurt. Pretty much a Gracie.
But cung has decent ground defense like liddell doin the whole reverse wrestling shit. But a lot of cungs opponents have been idiots who stand up with him
greviousuxsaber 2 years ago
BJJ alone is not good enough. What if you go up against a muay thai who also knows BJJ? You will be dead. Besides, good fighters are not stupid. They won't allow you to take them to the ground so easily.
jackzero99 2 years ago
You don't get it. It will come down to who has the SUPERIOR ground game. If a lone BJJ guy goes against a BJJ/MT fighter, it will come down to who has the better ground. Why? Because a superior ground fighter would know how to take down the BJJ/MT fighter, getting past takedown defenses. Ultimately leading do the ground where he will use his superior ground game to neutralize his opponent and submit him. A guy with superior bjj can beat a guy with moderate stand up and ground game.
daboyfromafrica0 2 years ago
You don't get it. If all that was needed was BJJ then nobody would learn anything else. The fact is that Royce Gracie has lost and so have his disciples. How did Rashad Evens defeat so many guys who knew BJJ? It's not so easy to take somebody down when they know what you are trying to do.
jackzero99 2 years ago
BJJ, SUbmission grappling, greco roman, wrestiln gthey work.
But point is it comes down who has the superior ground skill.
How did Royce lose? His opponents had a superior gruond game through ground defense.
How did Rashad win? Superior ground game defense. A person can know enough about the ground game to avoid it to rely on their better trait (Stand up)
but ultimately if someone who was superior to rashads groudn game, he'd submit him
daboyfromafrica0 2 years ago
The fact is that most wins are due to punches and kicks, not submissions. Royce Gracie only had success because few people knew how to defend against BJJ back then. Having a ground game is necessary, but you cannot consistently win without knowing how to strike. All you have to do is be able to defend from a take-down. Frank Mir and Randy Couture both have better ground skills than Brock Lesnar but they both lost to him because he could punch harder.
jackzero99 2 years ago
No, it really comes down to who has the better ground game. Many fighters who don't use submissions to win rely more on trying to get to a position to stand up.
Ground fighting negates to stand up, while stand up CAN'T negate to ground (see the BJJ vs stand up fighst)
Also Brock did have decent ground skills, and the guy basically just stayed on top of Couture and controlled him to tire him out. Eventually catching a hook.
Also, Randy kept standing up. And all he did was lay on mir and punch
daboyfromafrica0 2 years ago
How did he get on Mir? Punching him. How did he beat Couture? Punching him. Both had much more ground experience and Mir had BJJ. How did he beat Heath Herring? Punching him. Herring has BJJ. BJJ can't help you when someone smashes your jaw and knocks you silly
jackzero99 2 years ago
@jackzero99 Not necessarily. If your BJJ is better than his, you will be able to take your opponent down and control him, causing him to be useless, and neutralizing his ability to sprawl and brawl or use his jitsu in reverse. Royce Gracie fought many guys in early UFC who DID know both. Ken Shamrock, Kimo Leopoldo, and several others who were good strikers but also were versed in wrestling. Superior ground neutralized and destroyed them.
greviousuxsaber 1 year ago
@greviousuxsaber Early on it was the deciding factor in many fights, but now many people have figured out a defense for it. Look at guys like Liddell, Rampage and so on who don't know any BJJ. They made it to the top of the game by knowing how to defend against it. Brock Lesnar whooped the crap out of Frank Mir. Fedor Emilialenko is also a champ without BJJ.
jackzero99 1 year ago
@jackzero99 A true grappler would know how to bypass his opponent's takedown defense. Someone like Rickson could even take down Lidell, because by then a lot of jiu jitsu guys knew how to work the ground but not take it there anymore because people like Lidell only learned one angle of it. A better and true grappler ( a master ) with experience could overcome take down defense. so it really comes down to who has the better ground!
Brock has also trained in BJJ btw
greviousuxsaber 1 year ago
@greviousuxsaber Bullshit. Brock doesn't know any BJJ. He only knows the defense against it. Lidell is only a purple belt. Couture, Rampage, Tito Ortiz and Fedor don't know any BJJ. They are all great fighters and champs. Where are the master grapplers who can easily defeat them?
jackzero99 1 year ago
@jackzero99 Oh yes he does. he began training with them, prior to his first MMA fight.
greviousuxsaber 1 year ago
Ninjas suck. monkeys suck. rock sucks, yer a bitch
LiIGrim 2 years ago
Thug names like "Lil" sucks. Grow up and grow a pair. : )
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Hey. Shut up.
:)
LiIGrim 2 years ago
fuk em right? we all kno ninjitsu is the best! kick any martial artists or martial art ass, but rules protect mmartist from being killed by ninjas
Urbanvillenin 2 years ago
this is true; cunge le has really good stand up and uses his wrestling in reverse like chuck liddel, but if he was taken down by a surperior grappler he would be fucked worse than a girl on prom night
Deathclok 2 years ago
Dmasterman is right. Cung le can only fight standing up.
JNichoIson77 2 years ago
I think if any opponent of Cung Le's was smart, they'd take him to the ground and use wrestling or jiu jitsu to finish him.
Dmasterman 2 years ago
You mean like Frank Shamrock before he was thrown off for his attempts?
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
Ken barely went for takedowns and before the fight said he wanted to honor Cung Le by standing up. Most of his take downs happened after being injured
Dmasterman 2 years ago
You're right Ken never went for takedowns cause it was Frank who fought Cung Le. But as for Frank, not even a minute into the fight he went for a clench and couldn't take Cung down. Maybe you should rewatch the fight. Frank tries way before he got hurt.
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
Same thing happened to Frank. His clinch's are things Sanda uses, not take downs.
But hey, if you want to believe Cung Le can beat up a good grappler like Penn, or a Gracie, go ahead. Lol, you probably tink Ninjutsu also works too. :)
Dmasterman 2 years ago
Dude why are you using strawman arguments? Clenches, trips, single leg take downs, double leg take downs, are "ALL" tools in trying to take down an opponent. Frank could not "Take down" Cung Le even when he was fresh. You stated that if his opponents were smart they'd take him down and when confronted with Frank then you projected it on other people whom has never fought Cung Le. You probably think Masterbating works, see I can use names too.
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
A clinch isn't always an attempt to take down an opponent you fool. Go back to your ninja training son, while real Mixed martial artists discuss real things.
Dmasterman 2 years ago
A clinch "isn't" always an attempt for a take down, but watch the Frank vs Cung fight, that particular clench was meant to take Cung down. I see you're giving up on the debate once it got on a detailed level huh? It's always common for someone who's out of arguments to resort in name calling and it's common for them to try to excuse themselves out ASAP. I'm still laughing at you using "Ken", obviously you don't know anything about what you're talking about, "son".
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
A clinch can be transitioned to a take down, but it's entire meaning isn't always that. Therefor Frank could've used it to gain better control or to gain inside hits.
Son, you better sit down before you fall down. And everyone seems to agree with me. LOL
Dmasterman 2 years ago
LOL 2 idiots agreeing with you doesn't equal "everyone". Read this whole page and you'll see its got both sides. You knew Frank was going for a take down and couldn't, why would he clench and not drop a hit if he was going to do that? I mean when he did want to clench to throw elbows, he did it at the end? Wow, mystery solved!! You're those "NEW" MMA fans who had found out about "grappling", so u had to hate on any fighters who stands up. I can appreciate both aspects of the game. Owned?
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
Your lack of knowledge of martial arts amuses me.
Keep going fanboy, but I think the majority agree.
Dmasterman 2 years ago
The guy is indeed a striker but he has decent ground game, I don't think I have ever said that he's a grappling extraordinaire. The problem that we had was that you made it look like it was simple for someone to just take him down...it isn't. Then you cry about grapplers being able to beat him at grappling ROFL, "Your" lack of MMA is the problem. MMA means that you would have to be ready for everything, why would he worry about grappling a grappler if he has solid takedown defenses?
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
Cause as I said, and everyone is, no one takes him down. THey like to honor him by standing up.
But hey, if you want to think San shou is the end all package, go ahead. When you wake up after being submitted, don't look at me. lmao
Dmasterman 2 years ago
Find where I wrote that San Shou was the end all package. You like making shit up don't you? lol, just like having 2 guys at the end agree with you and then all of a sudden "EVERYONE" agrees with you. Read "ALL" the posts here and you'll see, "MOST" of them agrees with me. This guy has sick striking and great Takedown Defense. It's possible to submit him but it's not easy to take him down, don't try to make this into a Grappler vs Striker thing. He has high wrestling credentials, look into it.
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
No, most of them have agreed with me unless they're fanboys like you.
Cept the majority of people here that agree with me are idiots to you. But oh well. I bet you thing Cung Le is an idiot. Lmao
Dmasterman 2 years ago
Oh wait, I thought you said "Everyone" agreed with you. That's superlative talking there boy. But hey, glad to be a fanboy any day instead of an idiot. To each his own. By the way, have you checked his wrestling credentials yet and have you checked his wiki stating that he studies BJJ also? I'm sure "anyone" can just take him down and win now.
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
You're right, everyone does agree with me.
Dmasterman 2 years ago
I love the way your arguments just dwindles and gets shorter and shorter each time. Remember the ones who agreed with you were idiots, it's a word trap to remind you of what you said so don't flatter yourself.
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
Nah, I'm just not even trying, you've proven all my points facts, and now I'm just poking a beaten up dog. lol
Dmasterman 2 years ago
And these "facts" are? : ) Reversing our positions won't help you here. You don't sound like the great MMA analyst as before. Funny how you call me a fanboy when you're a Star Wars fanboy... really? A fan of Fiction was calling me out on being a fan of reality? ROFL!!!!
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
Ohh, I hit a nerve did I? You're trying to use videos I posted as some way to insult me? Lmao. But ya see, all I need to to "lol" at, is you have "Ninja" in your name. LOL
Dmasterman 2 years ago
I caught your hypocrasy and you hit my nerve because of that? lol, man talk about mental gymnastics to try to get yourself out. I'll leave you alone kid, I know it must suck to never have a date. I should be more sensitive to people. I mean you aren't even fighting back on this MMA debacle anymore. Keep being a strong keyboard/armchair warrior.
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
LoL, okay finally giving up. Typical of you ninja larpers. lmao
Dmasterman 2 years ago
Cung Le is good and all but San Shou isn't the end best of all martial art. I've practiced it, and if it was all I needed, I wouldn't be taking Judo and BJJ now would I?
Search for a vid called "BJJ vs San Shou". Should be here on youtube. A Sanda fighter gets mauled rather badly.
See you cant just let yourself be stuck to one art, you have to be versatile and mix things up like Bruce Lee said.
simyijin2004 2 years ago
Sim, the guy's also a wrestler...he's not just San Shou. He has BJJ training as well, he just isn't a BJJ blackbelt. His bread and butter is his stand up, but like I've told Dumbmaster...Cung's aware that MMA means he'll have to face grapplers and he's built a decent take down defense game. He's no Jacare or Maia in grappling but he's great in what he does.
NinjaMunkeyRocker 2 years ago
Maybe because the BJJ video posters never would post any of the times they've lost? Dum*bass?
EverVk 2 years ago
Wow this Dmasterman prick has been in all of Cung Le's video trying to talk smack about him. Do you not have a life? Cung Le is still undefeated. Learn something before you talk you piece of %^%#. Also, tell your nasty mother to kill herself, she is so ugly that she disgraces the human race
EverVk 2 years ago
Do you have a life? Because you're coming here to bother me.
And no YOU'RE a disgrace. Let me wake you up to something.
The way people fight in Tekken and street fighter, are not how fights are portrayed in REAL LIFE.
You idiot.
Dmasterman 2 years ago
Wow, what a complete idiot you are. Dude, are both your parents retarded? Maybe it's probably your race. So, now you have a clear definition of how fights ought to be? Please, just be quiet and stop embarassing already pathetic family
EverVk 2 years ago
Lol, you know what's so sad?
You don't even offer an argument. If you're going to insult me at least bring up an argument. Unless you realize you don't have one, therefor you're agreeing with me but want to insult me for being right.
Okay I'm right. You got pwned.
Dmasterman 2 years ago
It's a good thing Cung Le, a Viet could kick your stupid wannabe chinese ass. LOL
aziangirlluv 2 years ago
What the feuck are you talking about?
EverVk 2 years ago
U're so dumb aziangirlluv. I'm defending Cung Le. He's my favorite MMA fighter and perhaps the best; he's undefeated and took down Frank Shamrock pretty easily. Don't you see Dmasterman's comments about Cung Le? He's saying that Cung Le cannot take anyone in UFC.
EverVk 2 years ago
You denying the fact that Cung Le has lost 2 out of, what, 38 K1 fights? Or that he is undefeated in MMA? Those are facts, thus it's fair to assume he's an awesome fighter. Also, his starring the upcoming tekken movie is a decision made AFTER he was already a succesful martial artist
veshkeat 2 years ago
No, you apparently did not even read what I said, other than a few comments.
Cung is a Vietnamese who doesn't do Vietnamese martial arts. Fact.
As for the Tekken movie, expect shit. Cung Le is NOT an actor, and they got him to play a white american biker. Good choice no?! The movie is being made by douchebags who have never played the game (and since you seem excited about it, I'll assume that too).
The film will blow.
But the point is: Cung is a Vietnamese who doesn't do viet arts.
Dmasterman 2 years ago
what white american biker? he's playing law, a chinese martial artist.
Ecko50100 2 years ago
Well the movie just got even worse, since Danny Chan dropped out as playing Law. And now Cung Le isn't playing Paul anymore. But whatev, the film is still going to suck major balls.
Dmasterman 2 years ago
He was never going to play Paul, and well Danny would have been a pretty good Law.
Ecko50100 2 years ago