@railrdr523 Very true, the price for a fairly used condition SD40-2 unit is $200,000 and up even though that most of them now are between 30 and 40 years old.
There are still quite a few shortlines and regionals still using the 567 powered GP-9's and SD-7's made in the 1950's, because there isn't really a suitable priceable replacement.
Therefore, EMD today, is still making parts for these ancient models they last produced 50+years back.
To further illuminate others, note how the stack clears up immediately after the "flameout", which means all the soup that'd been boosted up to the muffler assembly burend out. These old 16 and 20Vs in SP's old tunnel motors and other SD40s-45s had a LOT of miles on them, with precious LITTLE maintenance, in SP's last days. What they were doing here was load banking this motor to do exactly what it did. It's a common maintenance procedure. This looks to be an M-K rebuild, as well.
This is usually from idling to long, dumping unburned fuel and oil into the turbocharger, and when you fire it up for real, it cleans itself out. Also plays havoc with the valves idling an engine like this. I went to Canada for a brand new one that did this, just let it sit there and idle and see what your get, you are also looking for an airbox fire in the process.
@erbie49 Amen to that. Any EMD (or Detroit) will get "soup" in the airbox from excessive idling, which, unfortunately, the RRs do so they don't have to depend on their sulfated/worn out battery strings. You can even get an airbox fire on a 6-71 if you sit it at low idle long enough, even with fresh injectors. Seen it happen! That's why GM Truck and Coach, for years, used to recommend always idling motorcoach 6-17s and 8V-71s on fast idle. The GM unit injectors are also notorious dribblers.
@DeserTBoB93535 You ever see the valves when the get "sucked" up into the head when idled too long. I never understood idling them like the railroads, or high speed low load operations. Whatever they saved on the batteries, they had to lose on the longevity of the engine, of course after 15,000 hours it belonged to the railroad, best of my memory that was the warranty on one.
This is usually from idling to long, dumping unburned fuel and oil into the turbocharger, and when you fire it up for real, it cleans itself out. Also plays havoc with the valves idling an engine like this.
That's not a blown turbo....moron. That happens a LOT when load banking a really worn out diesel of ANY variety. It's called a "stack fire". Dumb foamer.
@DeserTBoB93535 Are you a diesel mechanic? I've been working on heavy truck fleets for 8 years and the only time I see an engine do what this engine did is after the turbo fails. The shaft bearings fail which dumps oil into the exhaust, hence all the smoke which leads to the fire from oil build-up in the pipe. I have never seen an engine have flames shooting out the exhaust just because.
@harrier331 You assume that this has not been reported.The Maintenace Dept of ANY company ANYWHERE(including the place I work at)has a long,long list of things to do and are often well behind in repairing the MOST important items first.Everyone wants everything done NOW!
@mccrackenphillip Not ususally, but scares the hell out of you when it happens and you are close. Canadians sent one back once, after road man said it was a bad turbocharger, went right back thru the turbo test stand without a hitch, I went to Canada to help them put the new turbo back on, the cost of putting the turbo on, labor, my hotel room flight there and back shipping the turbo there and back all because someone let it set there and idle itself to death.
@lexmarks567 You load the system up just like it was running down the tracks except the electrical power generated instead of going to the traction motors goes into a grid and is disapated as heat.
Price is not the issue. Railroads will make the bigger investment if it means better quality. They're not going to buy a bunch of absolute garbage just because it's cheaper. You've got it wrong...
The quality and reliability of EMD locomotives has been slipping over the past 15-20 years. When GM split from EMD, that was the beginning of the end. The SD80's and SD90's were not close to being reliable, and the newer ACe's and M-2's have major traction failures frequently....It's not something---
some of the older Conrail GE's were doing this just before the merger with CSX and NS I always heard the firedepartment being paged to meet Conrail trains at the crossings to put out fires.
So far no GE wide NOSE safety cab locos have been retired and they came out 20 years ago, where as the EMD SD 90 and 9043 have been getting scrapped or taken out of service and they are far newer.
@trainman2816 yep the H engine was a flop, but the SD9043MAC's have been retired and spun off to short lines with the 710 engine as well, I don't know the full story but UP still uses some 9043MAC's in slow unit train service and as unmanned DPU units, I guess they ride rougher than hell.
@trainman2816 yep the H engine was a flop, but the SD9043MAC's have been retired and spun off to short lines with the 710 engine as well, I don't know the full story but UP still uses some 9043MAC's in slow unit train service and as unmanned DPU units, I guess they ride rougher than hell.
It sounds like your shooting off the BS alright. I find it difficult to believe that a GE can run naturally aspirated with the black smoke caused by a little bit of tubo lag; while accelerating a train; when working properly.
This is one of most awesome video I've ever seen , that turbocharger was bad damaged, very bad, but that is 'cause (I think) the poor maintenance and overhaul . Also EMD always used 2 stroke engines (exception 265H) and turbochargers or roots blower . A GE unit can run with the blown turbocharger because it can absorb air naturally unlike EMD's 2 stroke that can't and won't work(properly or not work at all). Anyway the 4 stroke is better than 2. Good job !
Well. Not really. a GE ES44AC costs over 1.5 million. While an ACe costs 1.56 million, or something along those lines. There isn't that much of a price difference. The only reason there are more GE's out than EMD's is because Erie, PA has a larger facility to crank out more locomotives.
I think this was caused by a build-up of oily substances in the exhaust manifolds and the engineer was required to apply some power to blow out the flames.
Look at how many EMD's are in storage on UP and BNSF vs. the GE's. Why? GE is more reliable, and easier to maintain. You don't see thousands of Dash 9 44CW's stored on BNSF, or C44AC's stored on UP...
but the GE engines look like shit compared to the EMD's. and anyways, the BNSF and UP have the two worst paint schemes i have ever scene. where'd the BNSF get that ugly orange they have??? and really, you gotta admit, an SD45 in warbonnet looks much better than a Trash-9 in UP or BNSF
oh whoops, lol. shows where ive been!!! but anyways, you gotta admit, a BNSF Dash 9 looks horrible compared to a kodachrome SD45 or a Santa Fe SuperFleet FP45. i mean come on, ya gotta agree with me there!!!
I love the Dash-9's. Although, the reason is probally because the only thing that runs near my house is the regional Providence & Worcester Railroad. They consist of a few GP38's, B39/40-8, and some ex-MLW stuff. So i love the dash-9s cuz i never see them as much as everyone else, so i'm sure they're sick of them cuz it's all they see. I just think the new GEVOS are beautiful. Unfortunately it seems the majority of people despise the new GEVOS. Oh well.
seriously, does a Dash 9 really look better than a red and silver warbonnet FP45??? or a kodachrome SD45? really, you gotta admit, the old SD series is much better looking than a dash 9!!!!
No. I already said that Warbonnets look amazing. I have no idea what the kodachrome thing you mentioned is. But i love warbonnets. I like the B40-8W/C40-8W's But I love the new(H3?) paint scheme.
the kodachrome paint scheme is that of the failed Southern Pacific-Santa Fe merger. and what railroad has the H3 paint scheme? and sorry about mentioning the warbonnet twice, i didnt get an email saying you'd said that
I had no idea that SP and ATSF ever tried to merge. That must be an interesting paint scheme! I believe(not entirely sure) that the H3 paint scheme is the new BNSF orange.
it was. much prettier than the BNSF paint scheme. and do you know where the frick the BNSF got orange out of the burlington northern and the santa fe???
well, i think the UP heritage schemes look pretty good on the SD70ACe. and the norfolk southern paint scheme looks pretty good on a SD70M. but yeah, GE looks like crap. and there is no variation between models. with EMD, you can definitely tell, but until i trained my eyes, i could NOT tell the difference between a ES44DC and a Dash 9, except for the CSX paint scheme
Well the GEVO engines are also more fuel efficient and comply with EPA tier 3 exhaust requirements. It's not a matter of wanting to save the Earth but newly manufactured railroad locos have to comply to certain standards set down by the government. And being 2% more fuel efficient is pretty crucial considering each railroad uses a couple BILLION gallons of fuel a year.
well look who's in the white house! a bunch of people who support global warming! and anyways, GE is cookie cutter brand. anyways, im getting out of this one. its getting annoying
Cheaper to run, not cheaper to buy. The initial investment is irrelevant to most railroads given the lifespan of an average locomotive. They look at the projected cost of the equipment over it's entire life.
that looks like a SD-40. Should have went to the shop for repairs. Most likely been ran the hell into the ground. I bet ya SP rebuilt that unit then forgot it.
UP had several problems with the GE Dash 8s igniting fires in the tunnels of Oregon a few years ago, but sence they lined all of them with concrete spray foam, the problem has been resolved... Now its just problems with derailments haha!
YEAH THEY ARE and im sick of people comparing and calling dash 9s trash 9s and stuff,because if dash 9 were trash they wouldnt have sold thousands of units.their both awesme rail companys.
what?!?! dude, i love american trains, but i dont think the dash-9 looks as good as an SD-40 or a classic F-3!!!! EMD makes much better looking locomotives then GE can. i just hate the nose and fins on the dash 9, thats all. it looks really goofy in my opinion
the fins are ok(kinda). its the nose that ruins it. it just looks plain goofy!!!! but the BNSF paint scheme just started to look good too!!!! but why'd they go with great northern empire builder colors instead of something else????
Your talking to me like I work for BNSF. I have no idea where they got their paint scheme. No idea what the northern empire builder colors look like. And as to the nose, that is nothing new. Typical widecab design. You can't attribute that nose specifically to GE. Plenty of EMD have that nose for widecabs.
oh come on!!! everyone knows about the great norther railway's empire builder!!! and anyways, look this stuff up. and yes, i know a lot of EMD's have wide noses, but the GE ones look way goofier to me
I can assure you BNSF Railway Corporation doesn't give a flying fart what their locomotives look like, as long as they have a good longivety, and they can pull.
Rockguitarist946 - the BNSF Heritage I and II paint schemes were modeled after the Santa Fe "Warbonnet." The HII retains the "Cigar Band" logo, and some of the same striping and design. The HI retains the old Santa Fe "round" logo. As for the orange/green colors, I don't know why they use those...
Personally, I find the GE widecabs more attractive than the EMD widecabs. The rounded off noses on the EMD's look goofy to me. And as for the GE's outselling EMD, it's because of quality, not price...
@CSXno601 The orange and green colors.. I wonder if they use those because great northern used a lot of orange and green, as well as northern pacific using green, and Burlington Northern using a green color?
GE is building the better locomotives...All the railroads know it...That's why GEVO's are so popular, and why ACe's and M-2's aren't. They don't perform as well.
Now, I fully expect someone to bring up the turbo-charger problems that the GEVO's had last year. That issue has been corrected. As to date, that is the only real big problem that the GEVO's have had so far.
EMD's quality went downhill dramatically with the SD80's and 90's - when GM split from EMD. GE's the better builder...
@BNSF5608 any train could have a long longevity. i saw a special on an very very old dash 8 that just got refurbed. they chopped the train up and cleaned the engine. only to put it in another dash 8
Actually, GE's, older ones especially have a tendency to throw Turbo Filters more often. That EMD probably logged more than 150,000 miles before it actually did that.
Ah. Just for shit n' giggles it'd be funny to have a race between a turbo and a supercharged engine. You know, sorta like they race tuners on the streets. Completely impractical i know, but eh. It'd still be cool to watch.
Maybe a hauling contest would be more appropriate. For example, a GP-38 vs. a GP-40. The reason I don't say SD-40 is because all the EMD lovers will jump on the "lets bash GE" boat. So a contest between jeeps is better.
Blown Turbo
atpchase 1 month ago
filmed using a potato
MydogTobes 2 months ago
Shoo doggy!
UKBB 2 months ago
just about all SP units do that from what I've seen over the years.
onrr1726 3 months ago
Computer: "WARNING, FATAL ERROR. COUNTDOWN TO DESTRUCTION COMMENCING. START SMOKE-SPITTING SEQUENCE."
Engineer: god fuck it RUN!!!!!!!!!
Applachia0928 5 months ago
WTF BOOOOOOOOOOM! :-D
Renatodonadio 5 months ago
that train should be re-named as spitfire, because that is exactly what it does.
3DPeter 5 months ago
bunch of excited faggots
Olddog231 6 months ago
Who knew trains had afterburners.
Bus7777 6 months ago 10
Why, espee, Why?
peterandben 6 months ago 2
the hell express is leaving the station
trainzchronicles 6 months ago 2
...
Some people just don't know the diffrences between Steam and Deseil Locomotives... :\
TheMiniMan110 8 months ago
So if it was weird
TheMeteoro06 8 months ago
It was his turbocharger for sure
trainmasta227 8 months ago
@railrdr523 LOL. Ashame more things couldn't be built and standardised like how EMD built it's locomotives.
tarmac2001 9 months ago
@railrdr523 Very true, the price for a fairly used condition SD40-2 unit is $200,000 and up even though that most of them now are between 30 and 40 years old.
There are still quite a few shortlines and regionals still using the 567 powered GP-9's and SD-7's made in the 1950's, because there isn't really a suitable priceable replacement.
Therefore, EMD today, is still making parts for these ancient models they last produced 50+years back.
tarmac2001 9 months ago
That was pretty cool. Just because it shoots fire out of the exhaust stack doesn't mean it's going to the scrap yard anytime soon.
tarmac2001 9 months ago 2
When UP bought SP and got a look at their locomotives, they weren't happy.
BARRIEMOREBARLOW 11 months ago
"Hey Bobby! Can you turn the rail pressure up a bit?"
"Sure, how's that?"
BOOM!
"Um... back it off a bit."
123MrBurg 11 months ago 16
To further illuminate others, note how the stack clears up immediately after the "flameout", which means all the soup that'd been boosted up to the muffler assembly burend out. These old 16 and 20Vs in SP's old tunnel motors and other SD40s-45s had a LOT of miles on them, with precious LITTLE maintenance, in SP's last days. What they were doing here was load banking this motor to do exactly what it did. It's a common maintenance procedure. This looks to be an M-K rebuild, as well.
DeserTBoB93535 1 year ago
This is usually from idling to long, dumping unburned fuel and oil into the turbocharger, and when you fire it up for real, it cleans itself out. Also plays havoc with the valves idling an engine like this. I went to Canada for a brand new one that did this, just let it sit there and idle and see what your get, you are also looking for an airbox fire in the process.
erbie49 1 year ago
@erbie49 Amen to that. Any EMD (or Detroit) will get "soup" in the airbox from excessive idling, which, unfortunately, the RRs do so they don't have to depend on their sulfated/worn out battery strings. You can even get an airbox fire on a 6-71 if you sit it at low idle long enough, even with fresh injectors. Seen it happen! That's why GM Truck and Coach, for years, used to recommend always idling motorcoach 6-17s and 8V-71s on fast idle. The GM unit injectors are also notorious dribblers.
DeserTBoB93535 1 year ago
@DeserTBoB93535 You ever see the valves when the get "sucked" up into the head when idled too long. I never understood idling them like the railroads, or high speed low load operations. Whatever they saved on the batteries, they had to lose on the longevity of the engine, of course after 15,000 hours it belonged to the railroad, best of my memory that was the warranty on one.
erbie49 1 year ago
This is usually from idling to long, dumping unburned fuel and oil into the turbocharger, and when you fire it up for real, it cleans itself out. Also plays havoc with the valves idling an engine like this.
erbie49 1 year ago
0:08 *Brup*
BTCRAIL101FILMS 1 year ago
That's not a blown turbo....moron. That happens a LOT when load banking a really worn out diesel of ANY variety. It's called a "stack fire". Dumb foamer.
DeserTBoB93535 1 year ago
@DeserTBoB93535 Are you a diesel mechanic? I've been working on heavy truck fleets for 8 years and the only time I see an engine do what this engine did is after the turbo fails. The shaft bearings fail which dumps oil into the exhaust, hence all the smoke which leads to the fire from oil build-up in the pipe. I have never seen an engine have flames shooting out the exhaust just because.
christmascreature13 1 year ago
I guess that wasn't made in America...
TheLegendaryDman 1 year ago
and the driver doesent give a crap and carryed on untill..................later on...............he blew up should have gave a shit
harrier331 1 year ago
@harrier331 You assume that this has not been reported.The Maintenace Dept of ANY company ANYWHERE(including the place I work at)has a long,long list of things to do and are often well behind in repairing the MOST important items first.Everyone wants everything done NOW!
gebass6 1 year ago
@gebass6 ogh so true
harrier331 1 year ago
Poor old 645 prime mover just isn't up to the rigors of freight railroading anymore....
GintaPPE1000 1 year ago
Thats fukin crazzy, fire just wooooooosshh.
Zillion43 1 year ago
DID IT BLOW UP.
mccrackenphillip 1 year ago
@mccrackenphillip Not ususally, but scares the hell out of you when it happens and you are close. Canadians sent one back once, after road man said it was a bad turbocharger, went right back thru the turbo test stand without a hitch, I went to Canada to help them put the new turbo back on, the cost of putting the turbo on, labor, my hotel room flight there and back shipping the turbo there and back all because someone let it set there and idle itself to death.
erbie49 1 year ago
are you sure is not a ALCO locomotive... LOL!
chefjavier 1 year ago
@chefjavier looked like an alco to me heh
omgbbq262 1 year ago
ya i bet up dosent give a crap
pooled100 1 year ago
Uber Clag!
Hanglands 1 year ago
This is what you get when you pimp your wheels on Pimp My Ride.
motorbreath1983 1 year ago
what does a load test do.
lexmarks567 1 year ago
@lexmarks567 You load the system up just like it was running down the tracks except the electrical power generated instead of going to the traction motors goes into a grid and is disapated as heat.
erbie49 1 year ago
That engine was showing off, just thinking in a Thomas style.
BillyQuincy 1 year ago
Next thing you know, it becomes a dragster or a faster locomotive
UNIONPACIFIC9199 1 year ago
Amazing!!! I never seen something like that before...
botagross 1 year ago
Normal
wdowa94 1 year ago
Too much coal!
JanitorMaster 1 year ago
@JanitorMaster it's a diesel
rallygsc 1 year ago
@rallygsc Note that i haven't been serious.
JanitorMaster 1 year ago
Its a dragon
jamin108 1 year ago
@jamin108 lol
SuperBanana121 1 year ago
the title could be used for a porn movie....
ThisIsOurHouseCoach 1 year ago
@HarveyHenkelmann That's why ALCO should still be around... (I know G.E. bought them)
bigboy4016 1 year ago
yeah a little rich, EMD were around when my father worked for the railroad(ATSF now BNSF)
Scotty361 1 year ago
Price is not the issue. Railroads will make the bigger investment if it means better quality. They're not going to buy a bunch of absolute garbage just because it's cheaper. You've got it wrong...
The quality and reliability of EMD locomotives has been slipping over the past 15-20 years. When GM split from EMD, that was the beginning of the end. The SD80's and SD90's were not close to being reliable, and the newer ACe's and M-2's have major traction failures frequently....It's not something---
CSXno601 1 year ago
----railroads want to put up with.
CSXno601 1 year ago
some of the older Conrail GE's were doing this just before the merger with CSX and NS I always heard the firedepartment being paged to meet Conrail trains at the crossings to put out fires.
onrr1726 1 year ago
типа полыхнула сажа в коллекторе и америкосы возбудились. ну народ...
SuperKonung 1 year ago
there goes the engine lol
Alexking99 1 year ago
So far no GE wide NOSE safety cab locos have been retired and they came out 20 years ago, where as the EMD SD 90 and 9043 have been getting scrapped or taken out of service and they are far newer.
mbsmike1 1 year ago
@mbsmike1 Troublesome 6000HP engine
trainman2816 1 year ago
@trainman2816 yep the H engine was a flop, but the SD9043MAC's have been retired and spun off to short lines with the 710 engine as well, I don't know the full story but UP still uses some 9043MAC's in slow unit train service and as unmanned DPU units, I guess they ride rougher than hell.
mbsmike1 1 year ago
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@trainman2816 yep the H engine was a flop, but the SD9043MAC's have been retired and spun off to short lines with the 710 engine as well, I don't know the full story but UP still uses some 9043MAC's in slow unit train service and as unmanned DPU units, I guess they ride rougher than hell.
mbsmike1 1 year ago
Time to scrap that old POS
oldboatclub 1 year ago
that was cool
roblox9374 1 year ago
EMDs are great locomotives tho. They served the country for decades and they still run today. Well see how long GE wide cabs would last.
verastaki 1 year ago
its nice to see someone show an EMD smoking, its not just GE. I have experienced way more EMDs dying on the road than GEs.
mbsmike1 1 year ago 2
that was so cool
dandex500 1 year ago
UP's the 4th of July maybe!
48alfaone 1 year ago
wow //lol 5*
XxBec3509 2 years ago
nah its fine there just runnin a little rich.
ccskbradshaw 2 years ago
@thunderstormX92
It sounds like your shooting off the BS alright. I find it difficult to believe that a GE can run naturally aspirated with the black smoke caused by a little bit of tubo lag; while accelerating a train; when working properly.
tarmac2001 2 years ago 3
This is one of most awesome video I've ever seen , that turbocharger was bad damaged, very bad, but that is 'cause (I think) the poor maintenance and overhaul . Also EMD always used 2 stroke engines (exception 265H) and turbochargers or roots blower . A GE unit can run with the blown turbocharger because it can absorb air naturally unlike EMD's 2 stroke that can't and won't work(properly or not work at all). Anyway the 4 stroke is better than 2. Good job !
thunderstormX92 2 years ago
Really neat!!! Nice catch!!
12engines 2 years ago
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A diesel locomotive under the influence of ALCOhol.
Trifu22 2 years ago
Looks like they're running just a bit rich :)
darkyoda 2 years ago 53
@darkyoda diesels tend to run rich at low rpms
burnbabey12 1 year ago
@darkyoda yeah, a bit turbine blade rich in the exhaust, i think
44R0Ndin 8 months ago
WOOW!!!! That was AWESOME!!!
moon47mars 2 years ago
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH Thats Was Sweet!!!!!!
DioHolyDiver83 2 years ago
That's cool! Pretty sure anyone in the cab probably had a spontaneous bowel evacuation at the same time
petenkel 2 years ago 4
I'm pretty sure they did that on purpose. Bad turbo by the looks of it.
wirerail 2 years ago
Well. Not really. a GE ES44AC costs over 1.5 million. While an ACe costs 1.56 million, or something along those lines. There isn't that much of a price difference. The only reason there are more GE's out than EMD's is because Erie, PA has a larger facility to crank out more locomotives.
BNSF5608 2 years ago
She was clearin' her throat is all. Lol.
nsrailfann4life91 2 years ago
sadly enough, and what many of us may not have figured, that was most likely enough to cause the UP to retire it.
Tcaauwe2002 2 years ago
alot EMD weebols here
k5lta 2 years ago
I think this was caused by a build-up of oily substances in the exhaust manifolds and the engineer was required to apply some power to blow out the flames.
sandletters39 2 years ago
She could still make a good SD38-2 retrofit, if they decide to give up on repairing the turbo after this. lol.
tarmac2001 2 years ago
Is the devil in there?
Trainmixer 2 years ago
woah, thats some crazy shit
123enigma456 2 years ago
indeed man
Alexking99 2 years ago
damn that's something you don't see everyday
Alexking99 2 years ago
Look at how many EMD's are in storage on UP and BNSF vs. the GE's. Why? GE is more reliable, and easier to maintain. You don't see thousands of Dash 9 44CW's stored on BNSF, or C44AC's stored on UP...
BNSF5608 2 years ago
but the GE engines look like shit compared to the EMD's. and anyways, the BNSF and UP have the two worst paint schemes i have ever scene. where'd the BNSF get that ugly orange they have??? and really, you gotta admit, an SD45 in warbonnet looks much better than a Trash-9 in UP or BNSF
rockguitarist946 2 years ago
I completely disagree but you have a right to your opinion. And btw, GE owns EMD now anyways.
KSE828 2 years ago
I do agree that warbonnets look better than anything though.
KSE828 2 years ago
oh whoops, lol. shows where ive been!!! but anyways, you gotta admit, a BNSF Dash 9 looks horrible compared to a kodachrome SD45 or a Santa Fe SuperFleet FP45. i mean come on, ya gotta agree with me there!!!
rockguitarist946 2 years ago
I love the Dash-9's. Although, the reason is probally because the only thing that runs near my house is the regional Providence & Worcester Railroad. They consist of a few GP38's, B39/40-8, and some ex-MLW stuff. So i love the dash-9s cuz i never see them as much as everyone else, so i'm sure they're sick of them cuz it's all they see. I just think the new GEVOS are beautiful. Unfortunately it seems the majority of people despise the new GEVOS. Oh well.
KSE828 2 years ago
seriously, does a Dash 9 really look better than a red and silver warbonnet FP45??? or a kodachrome SD45? really, you gotta admit, the old SD series is much better looking than a dash 9!!!!
rockguitarist946 2 years ago
No. I already said that Warbonnets look amazing. I have no idea what the kodachrome thing you mentioned is. But i love warbonnets. I like the B40-8W/C40-8W's But I love the new(H3?) paint scheme.
KSE828 2 years ago
the kodachrome paint scheme is that of the failed Southern Pacific-Santa Fe merger. and what railroad has the H3 paint scheme? and sorry about mentioning the warbonnet twice, i didnt get an email saying you'd said that
rockguitarist946 2 years ago
I had no idea that SP and ATSF ever tried to merge. That must be an interesting paint scheme! I believe(not entirely sure) that the H3 paint scheme is the new BNSF orange.
KSE828 2 years ago
it was. much prettier than the BNSF paint scheme. and do you know where the frick the BNSF got orange out of the burlington northern and the santa fe???
rockguitarist946 2 years ago
Well, consider the alternative. BN Green + ATSF Red= Brown! And that would really suck!
KSE828 2 years ago
where'd they get that ugly orange though???
rockguitarist946 2 years ago
I have no idea what ugly orange you're talking about. The new orange "bnsf" paint scheme looks great!
KSE828 2 years ago
@rockguitarist946 probably all the way back from great northern...? that's really all I can figure
bertxblitzkrieg 1 year ago
Yeah I definitely agree with you, the classic SD and GP locomotives look alot better than what either manufacturer is building now.
massltca 2 years ago
well, i think the UP heritage schemes look pretty good on the SD70ACe. and the norfolk southern paint scheme looks pretty good on a SD70M. but yeah, GE looks like crap. and there is no variation between models. with EMD, you can definitely tell, but until i trained my eyes, i could NOT tell the difference between a ES44DC and a Dash 9, except for the CSX paint scheme
rockguitarist946 2 years ago
Sd90MAC looks just like a GEVO ! Who's copying who ?
gringo4x4do 2 years ago
EMD was trying to copy GE because thats about the time this whole eco-friendly thing kicked in and global warming was an official scam
rockguitarist946 2 years ago 2
Well the GEVO engines are also more fuel efficient and comply with EPA tier 3 exhaust requirements. It's not a matter of wanting to save the Earth but newly manufactured railroad locos have to comply to certain standards set down by the government. And being 2% more fuel efficient is pretty crucial considering each railroad uses a couple BILLION gallons of fuel a year.
wirerail 2 years ago
well look who's in the white house! a bunch of people who support global warming! and anyways, GE is cookie cutter brand. anyways, im getting out of this one. its getting annoying
rockguitarist946 2 years ago
How does that happen?
1f5sda 2 years ago
Cheaper to run, not cheaper to buy. The initial investment is irrelevant to most railroads given the lifespan of an average locomotive. They look at the projected cost of the equipment over it's entire life.
RustedBovine 2 years ago
damn skippy^_^
k5lta 2 years ago
that looks like a SD-40. Should have went to the shop for repairs. Most likely been ran the hell into the ground. I bet ya SP rebuilt that unit then forgot it.
BNforever2009 2 years ago
MY LORDZ!
RichardSwayne 2 years ago
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skymanfanclubisgay 2 years ago
UP had several problems with the GE Dash 8s igniting fires in the tunnels of Oregon a few years ago, but sence they lined all of them with concrete spray foam, the problem has been resolved... Now its just problems with derailments haha!
mpaulk7800 2 years ago
Puffing like a steam locomotive..haha.
Classicalguy12 2 years ago
yep it failed the test that turbo blowen
omegaroad 2 years ago
mixture running a little rich?
Firefighter659 2 years ago
And everyone says only GE's make fireworks shows :D GE and EMD are awesome locomotives
graysonator123 2 years ago 2
YEAH THEY ARE and im sick of people comparing and calling dash 9s trash 9s and stuff,because if dash 9 were trash they wouldnt have sold thousands of units.their both awesme rail companys.
k5lta 2 years ago 2
Yeah same here. it is Called a DASH-9! not trash-9. They aren't "trash" so call them Dash-9 44CWs.
Espeelover 2 years ago 5
THANK YOU!!
k5lta 2 years ago
i call them trash-9's cuz they look like trash
rockguitarist946 2 years ago
you obviously don't like American Trains
Espeelover 2 years ago
what?!?! dude, i love american trains, but i dont think the dash-9 looks as good as an SD-40 or a classic F-3!!!! EMD makes much better looking locomotives then GE can. i just hate the nose and fins on the dash 9, thats all. it looks really goofy in my opinion
rockguitarist946 2 years ago
I think the fins are the best part! Gives the locomotive some character.
KSE828 2 years ago
the fins are ok(kinda). its the nose that ruins it. it just looks plain goofy!!!! but the BNSF paint scheme just started to look good too!!!! but why'd they go with great northern empire builder colors instead of something else????
rockguitarist946 2 years ago
Your talking to me like I work for BNSF. I have no idea where they got their paint scheme. No idea what the northern empire builder colors look like. And as to the nose, that is nothing new. Typical widecab design. You can't attribute that nose specifically to GE. Plenty of EMD have that nose for widecabs.
KSE828 2 years ago 2
oh come on!!! everyone knows about the great norther railway's empire builder!!! and anyways, look this stuff up. and yes, i know a lot of EMD's have wide noses, but the GE ones look way goofier to me
rockguitarist946 2 years ago
I can assure you BNSF Railway Corporation doesn't give a flying fart what their locomotives look like, as long as they have a good longivety, and they can pull.
BNSF5608 2 years ago 56
i know, thats why everything looks like crap nowadays
rockguitarist946 2 years ago 3
Rockguitarist946 - the BNSF Heritage I and II paint schemes were modeled after the Santa Fe "Warbonnet." The HII retains the "Cigar Band" logo, and some of the same striping and design. The HI retains the old Santa Fe "round" logo. As for the orange/green colors, I don't know why they use those...
Personally, I find the GE widecabs more attractive than the EMD widecabs. The rounded off noses on the EMD's look goofy to me. And as for the GE's outselling EMD, it's because of quality, not price...
CSXno601 1 year ago
@CSXno601 The orange and green colors.. I wonder if they use those because great northern used a lot of orange and green, as well as northern pacific using green, and Burlington Northern using a green color?
bertxblitzkrieg 1 year ago
GE is building the better locomotives...All the railroads know it...That's why GEVO's are so popular, and why ACe's and M-2's aren't. They don't perform as well.
Now, I fully expect someone to bring up the turbo-charger problems that the GEVO's had last year. That issue has been corrected. As to date, that is the only real big problem that the GEVO's have had so far.
EMD's quality went downhill dramatically with the SD80's and 90's - when GM split from EMD. GE's the better builder...
CSXno601 1 year ago
I dont know man, they have some pretty good looking engines SOMETIMES. Its more like UP that says it.
pdwman 2 years ago
@BNSF5608 any train could have a long longevity. i saw a special on an very very old dash 8 that just got refurbed. they chopped the train up and cleaned the engine. only to put it in another dash 8
chillaxer1993 1 year ago
@BNSF5608 They look better than UP's rust buckets.
BARRIEMOREBARLOW 11 months ago
@BNSF5608 if that were the case, they wouldn't be using colors and decals on their locomotives. They'd be as black as NS's are.
htc6600 8 months ago
@BNSF5608 So why do they keep repainting everything?
gumball469 4 months ago
just to ask whats the diff between emd and gen electric
golfisgreat123 2 years ago
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harrodsburgNSfan 2 years ago
EPA PHAIL x10
killman369547 2 years ago
it probily failed the test
amtrak393 2 years ago 3
YIPES!! MAN that locomotive erupted like a volcano!!
bigg3469 2 years ago 6
Injector timing a little late maybe?
Barnekkid 2 years ago 5
ah choooooooke!!!
bigorangetrucker 2 years ago
hey i thought only planes could have afterburners?
gtafan2006 2 years ago 6
ahhh ahhh ahhh chhhoooooooo
tweetsie12190 2 years ago
I guess this means it failed the California emissions requirements.
ChevyTrucks352 2 years ago 29
LOL very true!
F650Rcr 2 years ago 4
EPA = PHAIL
michlian 2 years ago 4
al gore would be pretty pissed off lol
AlexR47x 2 years ago 9
its manbearpig attacking a turbo
ITW84 2 years ago
So was that a Pass or a Fail on that test?
1978garfield 2 years ago
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americans always seem to make lots of noise!
especially in restaurants and in cheering situations.
"hi I'm american"
" u dont say....I havent been able to hear anyone else for ur anoying and rude voice.....r u a broadcaster?"
tpvalley 3 years ago
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fuck u nigger... why dont u go back to what ever pussy ass excuse u have for a country
whatuwantdude 2 years ago
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More noise, shhhhhh, quiet, disturbing the peace.
Wasnt meant as an insult, just pinting something out incase any american should actually be able to take criticism rather than just give it.
Look at Guantanamo bay, iraq, afganistan, wars based on lies, bush a criminal, , they ignore chinas sins because they own ur national dept now!
Patriot act, martial law, prison camps for re education!
I feel a bit sorry for u all as well, hopefully obama isnt to good to be true.
his adviser a bonesman!
tpvalley 2 years ago
Very engine start :)
Alexbikerr 3 years ago
That's amazing
modeltrainsarecool 3 years ago
ahhhhhhhh
trainiac3 3 years ago
Actually, GE's, older ones especially have a tendency to throw Turbo Filters more often. That EMD probably logged more than 150,000 miles before it actually did that.
CountVonBoco 3 years ago
I'm sorry, that isn't a steam powered locomotive, it is quite clearly a diesel.
lambdavi 3 years ago
Pity, where are the marshmallows?
SR722 3 years ago
bye bye mr turbo
ITW84 3 years ago 2
Who says locomotives don't fart?
(and sometimes light them)
Dockshund 3 years ago 3
i was loading an emd one time and it did that...i reset the racks and it never did it again
jtw2278 3 years ago
i always see fire on the SP units lol
omglolitssirmonkey 3 years ago
GREAT!
CenTraGZor 3 years ago
What is that, a GP38, GP40? Maybe SD40(-2)?
SpeakerPolice 3 years ago
GP38s arent turbocharged. They're supercharged. ITs prolly an SD40 or GP40.
6V92TA 3 years ago
I thought GP38-s were naturally aspirated?
KSE828 2 years ago
most are supercharged.
6V92TA 2 years ago
Ah. Just for shit n' giggles it'd be funny to have a race between a turbo and a supercharged engine. You know, sorta like they race tuners on the streets. Completely impractical i know, but eh. It'd still be cool to watch.
KSE828 2 years ago
they'd both prolly take off the same.
6V92TA 2 years ago
Maybe a hauling contest would be more appropriate. For example, a GP-38 vs. a GP-40. The reason I don't say SD-40 is because all the EMD lovers will jump on the "lets bash GE" boat. So a contest between jeeps is better.
KSE828 2 years ago