Network SouthEast ( BBC Inside Story )

[samueltheman466]

see 9:30 the nse trains still lives

[FreightlinerFred]

"and you get abuse from the ticket inspectors aswell"

Well maybe because you didn't have a ticket?

[smallritual]

oh gosh i remember this. the cancellations, the red gates being slammed in people's faces. horrifying but funny to watch now.

[freestyleminibus]

Profits before the service . Assett stripping. I worked for BR 80 to 86. Makes me sad to watch this.

[steveallen808909]

not sure why these trainspotters are complaining about the service maybe they left there flask at home or something its funny how the customers play up to the camera there be crying in their soup now that the slammers have gone nse ohh the good old days lol

[cammey23]

What a good video. Amazing to see what trains were like before i was born. Nice video :)

[HoodedFig900]

I like the clip of the poshie at 6.47

[GSIBOSS]

What a farce

[chris200179]

I still think that the EPBS were the best, in saying that though the 465's are good as well. Living in Slade Green I would say that though. lol

[campainr]

Do they still have those massive security gates on the end of platforms today, or were they just there to stop rioting NSE passengers!

"Whenever a train meets an MP coming down the line, an almighty derailment is inevitable." (sorry can't remember who said that, but its not my own)

At the time and today, privatisation was the only way forward

[465fan]

WHOA Look at the 465214 near the end of the video - with BREL motors? WTF!!! lol

[toppackage]

yeah i know odd how thats the case tho when its a shitty met cam lmao

[465fan]

Im not missing something like some were fitted with BREL motors and i missed it am i lol

[465fan]

Thank God we got rid of NSE! Bring back good old Connex south Eastern

You know how much I like you chris, but I cant say I would take NSE back lol

[32678knowle]

Errrr - excuse me!!! Connex SE had 1 in 4 trains running late!

I have commuted into London under both NSE and Connex and I can assure you NSE was better. NSE is still better than the current 'southeastern'

[465fan]

NSE were dreadful

AND THEY USED SHAGGED OUT TRAINS

At least connex went to 375s

Good move.

[32678knowle]

Well with a user name like yours you should like NSE, after all they intoduced (and paid for) the 465s.

If NSE had the government support that connex got they'd have been much better.

Connex were so good they had their franchise stripped!!! That says alot about them and as I said - I used both so I can make that judgement.

[465fan]

and you think i didnt get to sample both?

all i know is slam doors were shagged. and there was poor investment on NSE as you will see here where the signalbox is falling apart. Basically, connex got hit with financial troubles, and were sacked because they asked for money

[32678knowle]

they lost the franchise because they were incompetant!

The slam doors were old, but it all goes back to the question of goverment support.

NSE recieved very little subsidy from the goverment, Connex recieved alot.

Including a one off payment of £58m, they didn't improve and had the cheek to ask for more money.

I thought the whole idea of privitisation was that companies like connex didn't need government money because they were so brilliant?!!

[465fan]

whatever privitisation brings, i must say, i still find connex to have been a step up from nse

[InspectorBlakey]

LOL at 0:54 this guy is one of the few people at BR who actually knew the whole operation was down the sh*tter. All it needed was cash, something Mr Greyface and his bunch of cronies wouldn't give them.

[32678knowle]

Yep, and now the taxpayer is putting loads of money into a privitised system - in essence subsidising shareholders dividends rather than improving the railways.

BR ran with about £1.4bn worth of subsidy the current TOCs soak up £6.5bn

The Tories and Labour claim that privitisation is better and offers 'value for the taxpayer?????'

[ashita100]

you can see how much things have improved i mean obviously things are still not perfect but they are better than they were then

what year was this by the way?

[ALFWEDARF]

This is a fucking comedy show ! 'Get on the fucking train' !

[JubileePerson]

Ha ha ha! The bit of 5:18 is the customer service we should have back on the railways....I had forgotten how much I miss NSE.....

[richard5608]

10/10 wish i had the panorarma on the wrong track documentary from febuary 2001 excellent video though mate

[toppackage]

glad you enjoyed it im glad a tv prog was made on BR Network SouthEast as its real good to look back on

[JGravesend]

I taped "The wrong Track" off the Telly :) I got quite a few documentaries about railways that I had taped off the TV back in the day, so as soon as I know how, i will try to upload it all for people to see!

[richard5608]

i hope you do

thanks. richard

[stuartthegrant]

Very enjoyable vidios! Nice one

[toppackage]

Thanks!

[Class37Ash]

Awesome Thanks For Uploading 5*

[VoxRail]

Super vid mate! 5* and a fav.

[toppackage]

Thanks ive split it up in2 5parts so the whoe prog is watcable thanks!