A Message To Bill Gray

[Anon9083]

Daveyork0 = thoroughly pwned.

[RobertoAnon]

Dave York - understand this. When I wear a mask at a Scientology protest everyone who knows me...my friends, family and work colleagues...know that it is me wearing it. More importantly, they know that I wear it not because I am scared but because of what YOU (Scientology) has tried to do to me through your Fair Game policy!! Time you worked it out, man!

[oncebitten130]

Get your facts straight. You do not know what you are dealing with, and before you make judgements and pass off opinions you should do your homework. The mere fact that you think I'm Bill Gray's daughter just shows what a loser you are, and that you have not done any background on this topic. Typical scifag is all I can say, and I know because I was involved in this scam for a long time.

[oncebitten130]

His son (Billy) has lived outside scientology for a number of years, leaving his father to his own devices and not interfering. He decided to become involved in the ex-scene for his own reasons that you can ask him yourself. He posts on ESMB under ttamaad. You can see a number of posts he has made with regard to this and an open letter to his father.

[oncebitten130]

I am not hiding. My name is Genny Long and I live in Christchurch. My phone number is known by the scientologists because they have rung me a number of times. I make it no secret who I am.

Bill Gray rang and abused his son, my ex-husband, a while ago, and threatened him because his son does not want to come back into scientology. He was rude and accusitory, for no reason at all. You sound like a little busy-body with nothing better to do that interfere with other people's pain.

[oncebitten130]

Dear Daveyork0

Lets get this cleared up. Firstly I am NOT Bill Gray's daughter. I was married to his son, who's also called Bill Gray. I am no longer married to him, but we have 3 children, 2 of whom Bill Gray has never met.

I don't care what you do with regards to Bill Gray. I don't care about your opinions or the 'correct' way of getting in contact with BIll Gray. I removed my mask and went and spoke to Cyrus personally and asked him to get Bill Gray, but the answer was no.

[daveyork0]

Genny:

I visited the Sydney city org of scientology today (Saturday), asking to make contact with Bill Gray. They directed me to the Glebe org where I met Cyrus, a Church representative with an American accent. I asked for Bill. Cyrus said he was not there today.

I left a gift for Bill and a message encouraging him to leave a comment on this video to his grandchildren.

I made it very clear that I distance myself from the destructive, immature element you're associating yourself with.

[Anon9083]

I still await your response to my question about Alien souls and Xenu in OT3 lectures... Why art thou ignoring me?

[daveyork0]

The woman at the Sydney city org said that Bill is "quite a strongman", while Cyrus said he is "an elderly gentleman" who is not of the generation to keep a mobile phone or maintain a youtube account. Cyrus maintains a youtube account and committed that he will introduce Bill to it. Cyrus said Bill works there "on a reduced schedule".

Go to the man through his Church with goodwill as the bridge between he and his grandkids: no megaphone, no mask, no accusations toward the man & his employer.

[daveyork0]

Genny:

Approach the org with humility & with respect. Do that as acting out an intention that some good will come to the children of them having some communion with the old man and appreciating his life work in the tech.

He'd only want that they should be drugfree and with their ethics in and travelling a bridge to freedom.

This certainly means your wanting to put to bed all the accusing and the association with hidey-hacker-mocker-megaphone bigots.

Think. Adapt. Compromise.

[Anon9083]

You're certainly not making yourself look any better.

You still haven't answered me about Xenu. I'm just curious and wanna know more about it and why you continuously ignore me. I've heard recordings of L. Ron Hubbard talking about Xenu and it's been proven in a sworn court affidavit that it is in fact real Scientology doctrine.

Now either alien overlords and massacred alien souls are part of your official doctrine, or Scientology lied in court, and that's very naughty wouldn't you say?

[daveyork0]

The spinelessness is palpable. Think back to the history of those who would hide to aid efforts to bigot a minority group. In former times it was the Ku Klux Klan. Now we have this excresence.

They know if they showed their faces they'd have to behave themselves and that their friends and family members could associate their faces with their activities and feel the shame and disgust of association with them. They also know it aids escaping accountability to the law for slanders & harassment

[Anon9083]

Against all my efforts to prove that I was not a bigot, you refused to listen and continued to call me one. So now, as warned, I am now calling you an idiot, and I will continue to call you one until you wake up. Clearly, your Hubbard Tech has ruined your ability to think rationally.

And by the way, COS AU already knows who I am and my parents and friends know I do this, and they are proud of me. So why do I continue wearing the mask?

BECAUSE IT PISSES BUTTHURT SCILONS LIKE YOU OFF! :D

[daveyork0]

This woman and her father have had a falling out.

With adults, that can happen.

People who can't see eye to eye can be well-served by splitting up and moving on from each other.

[daveyork0]

Really, really, sometimes it's just what's best.

Bill, at least, has been able to abide that without any public emotional displays of backbiting and recrimination.

What's disgraceful is her touting the kids as emotional pawns to force the issue of Bill coming out in the midst of this crowd of bigots in their hideymasks. They are people whose mission has been to vilify his faith and what his life's work represents.

I have sympathy for the man.

[Anon9083]

We're not bigots. We've been telling you this for an entire year now. We have no issues with Scientology, Xenu (which you're yet to reply about by the way) or your right to choose to believe in such things. We are against the abusive practices of Scientology like disconnection, which is in clear display with this incident here.

Now if you call me a bigot one more time, you'll have proven that you fail to listen to reason and that you're an idiot. Last chance. Don't flunk it now.

[daveyork0]

What is failing here is that Genny is not pursuing the Church's reconnection procedure. Megaphones and hideymasks are not part of it.

Write to the org demonstrating your respect for the man and his faith. Learn about it and want to get involved in it, because it is the family he has chosen and bringing others to benefit from the tech, obviously, has been such an important part of his life work.

Do it the right way,

"It is possible to know about the mind, the spirit and life." LRH

[Anon9083]

Interesting proposal, Dave.

I have a question though. What do you think of the Today Tonight report that aired last week that had LRH lectures containing the story of Xenu and the Galactic Confederacy?

May I also mention that the story has been confirmed to be OT3, official Scientology doctrine?

You can believe in what you wanna believe but... you know, just saying. You can believe in what you wanna believe, but I think you should just be honest about it.

[Anon9083]

If you are indeed working as a legal practitioner for the federal government, I suggest you take a step back and examine just how unprofessional you sounded just then.

It's also cute that such a comment comes from you. I recall that governmental jobs encourage you to not think for yourself. If you can't think for yourself, you're SURELY one to give life advice.

This is of course assuming your profile is legit, which I don't think it is. inb4lyingfucktard.

[daveyork0]

Ignorable commentary from Mr-No-Guts-To-Show-His-Face of the no-lifer religion bigoting patrol

Cold day in hell it would be when Bill would be similarly so deprived to feel the need to camp outside your place with hideymask and megaphone

[Samakain]

Your taunts would be hilarious if they where not so pathetic.

And yes i doubt Bill would ever find enough passion in his broken self to get outside a protest anything, hell he can't even summon enough human warmth to meet his flesh and blood.

I feel sorry for the old man, i feel sorry for his family. However it is more shining evidence that this cult and its associated businesses are a seeping, cankerous evil wound on the soul of humanity.

[Anon9083]

Scientology destroys self-image and credibility. You are walking proof, good sir.

You can believe in aliens and evil galactic overlords if you want. I love the fact that I live in a country where if I wanted to be a Scientologist, I could be. What ISN'T ok is that schmucks like you have to pay ridiculous amounts of money to even learn of your "religon's" origin story.

I am no religious bigot. Merely, I am against corporate greed disguised as a religion. Get your facts straight and GTFO.

[daveyork0]

I don't have to have belonged to a religion or paid any money to it to acknowledge that it's a place where some people, and many of whom are quite prominent, find a place for belonging and community.

Nor do I either, to acknowledge that they're above what the bigots against them represent which is of the character of those who throw epithets and join in with masked harassment mobs like you.

Doubt you've ever been a part of it any longer than I, yet you feel qualified to project on them

[Anon9083]

I would like to inform everyone seeing this that Scientologist Dave York didn't come to see me after I proposed a face-to-face meeting for yesterday during the Chaniversary Raid. I even gave him a name to ask for so he could find me.

He has also removed my ability to comment on his userpage, so I shall post it here for all to see.

Dave York claims that I am a coward, but he has simply proven that he is wrong, and not only wrong... but a hypocrite.

Xenu xenu xenu xenu xenu xenu.

[daveyork0]

Don't be thinking I'd wan't to meet you. Don't be thinking I'd like to know you.

Don't either be thinking there's any invitation for childish commentary to my channel page.

There's my channel: real name, real face, real details. There & linked there.

To me there's honour in that.

But to you .. well, keep hidin' and keep bigoting at something you've likely never ever been a part of.

That's the sort of honour that you have.

For that I wouldn't blame you: I'd blame your parents,

[Anon9083]

You just sound afraid to meet a notorious SP, Daveyboy.

There's honour in me not showing my details because I'm not in this for the recognition. I'm in this because I believe that it's right.

I've never been part of Scientology, but I've seen what it does to people, and it's a disgrace on my status as an Australian citizen. Therefore it's my every right to protest against it.

And there you go insulting my parents. Way to lose an argument by sheer lack of credibility, Dave. In short, you fail.

[ddpl365]

I'm guess Bill did not come out? :(

[Anon060]

Bill, GTFO. Srsly.

[jtsmails]

Go Bill!

[Anon214365]

Funny that are protests take this form. "Please come meet your grandchild." of all the things to have to chant at a protest this makes me the saddest. To live in the same area and not have meet your grandchild because "your church forbid it" is disgusting. Keep the up the work guys. As scientology falls families come back together. Keep up the assault never leave a grandparent behind.

[psyentologysux]

Bill sounds like a hardcore case and the tin foil hat is probably bolted on to his dome. Let's hope there's a shred of humanity left in the man to be able to respond to this plea.

[vancananon]

I hope Bill wakes up and reconnects.

[supafreakapotamus]

Thank you so much for posting this. I hope Bill hears this.

[AnonBane]

This is sad that the Cult of scientology breaks up familys like this :[

I hope Bill Grey will blow and reconnect.