Savoy IS NOT a model for guys. He talks and acts gay! While he wants to teach guys how to be alpha males? That's jokes. Btw, he stole Mystery's methods. Go figure !
I take my hat off to guys like Ross, Mystery, Style, Gambler, etc. Savoy is fake and a fraud
I've studies both Love Systems and Speed Seduction, and I don't actually see any true incompatibility. I use both. These guys don't seem to like each other, and that's about it. When they rip on the others method, it's a little disingenuous. Negging and push-pull is, at least in part, the creation of a bit of insecurity. And Ross's stuff is sometimes linked to hypnosis, so each have a point about the others "shortcomings". If there's a weak ethical point, it's in the man who misuses it.
even when i first read the game, i always thought that ross jeffries used the creepiest methods. i agree that if you want to communicate a method, using feelings and emotions will be more successful but it's a bit much
This is ridiculous,it's as if Dr. Phil doesn't know that attraction is instinctual and that by not learning how to attract women, a man is essentially sterile.
All the women there are intrigued, curious and want more. They know Ross Jeffries material would make them feel the way they have always wanted to feel.
I think the whole community in the end is pretty sad. Just look at those guys. Sure i know theyr getting pussy , but i dont think a real man goes so far to attract women. Its kinda faggot for some reason
@jeeaaman They're not getting any, some of the Lovesystems instructors crashed and BURNED on Keys to the VIP (Bizkit). Ross does hook up with young girlfriends, fuck knows how, he's creepy as fuck... But Savoy etc are just abysmal.
I have a feeling this will hurt rather then help Ross's bottom line. He's effectively cannibalizing the community and washing his hands of it it seems.
@spetznas101 I totally agree, you can watch it like this: You can seduce a woman by being confident, nice, and a real man. She falls for you as a person, and for who you are. That's what Mystery, Style, and most of all DD does. What RJ does, is hypnotize, and NLP women to build attraction. So actually what he is doing, is forming fake attraction, which is not for him as a person, but because he hypnotized them.
To put it in fewer words: Mystery, Style, David Deangelo: heroes. Ross Jeffries: sick
@DuiVert I respectfully disagree. Mystery method is all about indirect game, using canned lines, peacocking, following a script, and turning yourself into a jester. Mystery method is a very inauthentic form of 'game'. I prefer the Direct form of game mixed in with some Juggler, and I don't mind adding in using some language skills to deepen rapport and build a super strong attraction. I also like coming in with a very strong positive frame and self-confidence.
@DuiVert Out of the guys you mentioned, I would say David Deangelo has the most natural direct style, and the rest are more geared towards nerds! I also like player supreme. I refuse to believe the Mystery Method is a real man's approach because it is based on gimmicks. I agree with what you said about being confident, kind, and a real man.
@pandapua nah, i like it better mainstream. It will just take some time before it becomes a little bit more acceptable, but this is just the beginning.
The most hilarious part of this video is where Dr. Phil accuses the PUA's of "not being themselves", like he is one who can criticize. In this clip, he acts like a silver knight who defends innocent women from these "monsters", yet in reality he was worse than any of them combined. He's a divorcee and was an abusive, controlling husband. Who the hell watches this show, anyways?
If women would only respond positively to the nice, decent guys, men wouldn't have to go out there an learn all these pick up techniques. It is sad that men have to learn these techniques to have success, but that is down to women. Women have no right to complain. Women complain about men learning these techniques, yet they positively respond to these techniques while at the same time rejecting the nice guy. More evidence of women being illogical!
@edinburgh96 I completely understand where youre coming from but also completely disagree with your statement. "Nice guys" are the product of being raised with female ideals, nice guys are boing and arnt sexual, why would any woman want that. All these techniques are simply natural interactions broken down. A guy who is naturally good with females does this all the time without even knowing it. It is the responsibility of the man to pick up a women. Nice guys dont know how to talk to women.
@edinburgh96 Women are very logical. If you didnt notice women are very different from men. They have completely different evolutionary/survival roles. Women deal with things logically from their evolutionary hard wiring and men deal with things from our evolutionary hard wiring. 2 Different sides of the coin/Men are form Mars women are form venus/different perspectives. Our actions dont make sense to women either..
@nisher15 Women are not logical! They are more emotional & empathetic. The only logical decisions they make towards opposite sex relationships is based on finding the best man to procreate with, and finding the best man to raise her child. In a totally evolutionary psych vacuum of a world, women would get pregnant by the biggest and strongest men, and marry sweet sensitive guys who will financially support her offspring and her-- All the while without him knowing that the child is hers!
@DJLuckyB1990 bravo... and it's funny how when a person knows what they're doing while manipulating, then it's said to be evil. but when it's done without a clear objective and awareness of the outcome then it's okay. so the problem is in being aware.. that's what the underlying theme here is, if you know what your doing as your doing it, if your doing it with deliberateness then it's bad.. that's bullshit and only lovers of "misery" lol.. want to experience life with no freedom of choice.
Okey Ross! I understand if you are jealous of Mystery cuz his method is the most popular one! but its not that your method is bad its just that mystery method is better! And Dr.Phil stop being an asshole!! stop pretend that you understand what this is about cuz u obviously don't!
You know what gets me about these other guys compared to Ross is that whenever these "students" go through their program they end up looking exactly like them. Same hairstyle, same clothes and same retarded necklaces. Atleast Ross seems to preach more be an individual.
i love it how he says in the last video he is not teaching nor using hypnosis but at the end he admits to using and being a master practitioner of NLP when that is a form of waking hypnosis
My god, why do these people dress so bad?!? What's with their obsession with maroon polyester shirts and cheap black polyester sport jackets? I suppose it's better than what they'd wear normally- Affliction shirts...
No, everybody uses speed seduction. speed seduction is basically a way to allow you use imaginations to lead you to feel certain feelings.
If you watch obama's speech, you will find lots of NLP that he uses ( includes the video he told us bin laden is dead). I dont know if he studied NLP or he is just natural. the fact is - everybody uses NLP because thats just a model of real human communication.
I am not sure how Ross 'won' t this debate. The women seem to be creeped out and shaking their head, Dr Phil keeps harping on how Ross Markets his materials, and Ross does not get into much detail about how his system is better (which by the way I agree, SS is better).
And unless it's on another clip, Ross does not get to demonstrate or show any video of him or his students in action, so the audience only hears the positive feedback that the women give to the Love Systems (MM) approach.
@belthazormn1 the last part was not about ross Jeffries, or the pick up community. it was about a naive stupid woman who got scammed by her "boyfriend"
I'm not sure if the guy in the purple pointed collar shirt and pendant necklace is even into vagina....I would assume this guy was into guys.
MsMaggieOC 2 weeks ago
He has a great head of hair for a 60 year old. And the colour! And it's all genuine because Ross never lies.
guydecervens 1 month ago
I have nothing against PUA's, but WHY do they all have to dress like douchebags?
kjempesneiks1 1 month ago 2
dr phill is a homo
HeyPusa 1 month ago
Savoy IS NOT a model for guys. He talks and acts gay! While he wants to teach guys how to be alpha males? That's jokes. Btw, he stole Mystery's methods. Go figure !
I take my hat off to guys like Ross, Mystery, Style, Gambler, etc. Savoy is fake and a fraud
avestak 1 month ago 2
@avestak i conquer... the dude jacked mystery
motownkrazy 1 month ago
Who the f*ck cares!? I mean, seriously, who the f*ck cares!? Women seduce men all the time, this is just pay f*cking back!
Mrmoc7 2 months ago 2
3:36 :))
nosdradomos 2 months ago
I've studies both Love Systems and Speed Seduction, and I don't actually see any true incompatibility. I use both. These guys don't seem to like each other, and that's about it. When they rip on the others method, it's a little disingenuous. Negging and push-pull is, at least in part, the creation of a bit of insecurity. And Ross's stuff is sometimes linked to hypnosis, so each have a point about the others "shortcomings". If there's a weak ethical point, it's in the man who misuses it.
AtomHeartPuppy 2 months ago
3:46 shes DTF for Ross :D
Becksss89 2 months ago
The women in the audience with looks of outrage on their faces would feel GRATEFUL to RJ after an hour with him.
Brainbust100 2 months ago
even when i first read the game, i always thought that ross jeffries used the creepiest methods. i agree that if you want to communicate a method, using feelings and emotions will be more successful but it's a bit much
danndan6 2 months ago
This is ridiculous,it's as if Dr. Phil doesn't know that attraction is instinctual and that by not learning how to attract women, a man is essentially sterile.
ArkonosAQW 3 months ago 2
All the women there are intrigued, curious and want more. They know Ross Jeffries material would make them feel the way they have always wanted to feel.
NiteOwl1983 3 months ago 5
I think the whole community in the end is pretty sad. Just look at those guys. Sure i know theyr getting pussy , but i dont think a real man goes so far to attract women. Its kinda faggot for some reason
jeeaaman 3 months ago
@jeeaaman They're not getting any, some of the Lovesystems instructors crashed and BURNED on Keys to the VIP (Bizkit). Ross does hook up with young girlfriends, fuck knows how, he's creepy as fuck... But Savoy etc are just abysmal.
SpyWhoLovedHimself 2 months ago
Long live RJ
JDPKRevolution 3 months ago
Style, who Ross joins regularly, teaches Mystery's method. The same method he's critiquing.
gaBehcuoDsuoitneterP 3 months ago
I have a feeling this will hurt rather then help Ross's bottom line. He's effectively cannibalizing the community and washing his hands of it it seems.
gaBehcuoDsuoitneterP 3 months ago
4:11 lol
Her face says "I have to make sure I never get fucked over like the past 10 guys did me".
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@JonItalia Hahaha exactly, the woman at 4:53 is thinking: waaaait a minute.... somebody did that to me last night in the bar!
DuiVert 4 months ago
Is that DJ Fuji??
foxwalkin 4 months ago
Ross Jeffries is a douchebag wow, I mean like WTF is wrong with him?
is he pissed DD,Mystery and style are making more money then he is?
AND comooon RJ is basically just mindfucking and hypnotizing the girl into sex thats as deceitful as it gets.
spetznas101 4 months ago
@spetznas101 I totally agree, you can watch it like this: You can seduce a woman by being confident, nice, and a real man. She falls for you as a person, and for who you are. That's what Mystery, Style, and most of all DD does. What RJ does, is hypnotize, and NLP women to build attraction. So actually what he is doing, is forming fake attraction, which is not for him as a person, but because he hypnotized them.
To put it in fewer words: Mystery, Style, David Deangelo: heroes. Ross Jeffries: sick
DuiVert 4 months ago
@DuiVert I respectfully disagree. Mystery method is all about indirect game, using canned lines, peacocking, following a script, and turning yourself into a jester. Mystery method is a very inauthentic form of 'game'. I prefer the Direct form of game mixed in with some Juggler, and I don't mind adding in using some language skills to deepen rapport and build a super strong attraction. I also like coming in with a very strong positive frame and self-confidence.
emomagica 3 months ago
@DuiVert Out of the guys you mentioned, I would say David Deangelo has the most natural direct style, and the rest are more geared towards nerds! I also like player supreme. I refuse to believe the Mystery Method is a real man's approach because it is based on gimmicks. I agree with what you said about being confident, kind, and a real man.
emomagica 3 months ago
Ross Jeffries is a douchebag wow, I mean like WTF is wrong with him?
is he pissed DD,Mystery and style are making more money then he is?
spetznas101 4 months ago
OMG its DJ FUJI hahaha
aznf0rl1fe 4 months ago
THE COMMUNITY SHOULD HAVE REMAINED UNDERGROUND. GREED GOT THEM BLOWN OUT THE WATER.
pandapua 4 months ago
@pandapua nah, i like it better mainstream. It will just take some time before it becomes a little bit more acceptable, but this is just the beginning.
conillusionist 4 months ago
@conillusionist It might be more acceptable, but, you have to agree-this was a bad way to start.
pandapua 4 months ago
The most hilarious part of this video is where Dr. Phil accuses the PUA's of "not being themselves", like he is one who can criticize. In this clip, he acts like a silver knight who defends innocent women from these "monsters", yet in reality he was worse than any of them combined. He's a divorcee and was an abusive, controlling husband. Who the hell watches this show, anyways?
DennytheHumanBean 4 months ago
Is that DJ Fuji at 0:45 ?
KyiRui 5 months ago
and Dr Phil is a complete idiot when it comes to dating
smo1765 5 months ago 3
Fuck RJ he's a complete douche. If he got laid would he be this angry and douchebaggish? Read about him in the game.
smo1765 5 months ago
If women would only respond positively to the nice, decent guys, men wouldn't have to go out there an learn all these pick up techniques. It is sad that men have to learn these techniques to have success, but that is down to women. Women have no right to complain. Women complain about men learning these techniques, yet they positively respond to these techniques while at the same time rejecting the nice guy. More evidence of women being illogical!
edinburgh96 5 months ago
@edinburgh96 I completely understand where youre coming from but also completely disagree with your statement. "Nice guys" are the product of being raised with female ideals, nice guys are boing and arnt sexual, why would any woman want that. All these techniques are simply natural interactions broken down. A guy who is naturally good with females does this all the time without even knowing it. It is the responsibility of the man to pick up a women. Nice guys dont know how to talk to women.
nisher15 4 months ago
@edinburgh96 Women are very logical. If you didnt notice women are very different from men. They have completely different evolutionary/survival roles. Women deal with things logically from their evolutionary hard wiring and men deal with things from our evolutionary hard wiring. 2 Different sides of the coin/Men are form Mars women are form venus/different perspectives. Our actions dont make sense to women either..
nisher15 4 months ago
@nisher15 Women are not logical! They are more emotional & empathetic. The only logical decisions they make towards opposite sex relationships is based on finding the best man to procreate with, and finding the best man to raise her child. In a totally evolutionary psych vacuum of a world, women would get pregnant by the biggest and strongest men, and marry sweet sensitive guys who will financially support her offspring and her-- All the while without him knowing that the child is hers!
emomagica 3 months ago
Lets just say I would NEVER take women advice from Dr. Phil.
TheDaddyandTheBaby 5 months ago
i've never seen women so attentive as they are here in any of dr phil's other episodes.
migol1984 5 months ago
Look how interested the girl is at 3:35... She loves that sh*t.. I bet she fu*ks Jefferies after the show..
ahardiman251 5 months ago
@ahardiman251
are u fucking kidding me! she looks pissed!
jeffries hypnotizes people in a bully stupid way.
barkn 5 months ago
Why should men always be the guilty ?
Why should we always be described as the monsters of the society ?
saad6633 6 months ago 3
@DJLuckyB1990 bravo... and it's funny how when a person knows what they're doing while manipulating, then it's said to be evil. but when it's done without a clear objective and awareness of the outcome then it's okay. so the problem is in being aware.. that's what the underlying theme here is, if you know what your doing as your doing it, if your doing it with deliberateness then it's bad.. that's bullshit and only lovers of "misery" lol.. want to experience life with no freedom of choice.
blairduboir 6 months ago
Okey Ross! I understand if you are jealous of Mystery cuz his method is the most popular one! but its not that your method is bad its just that mystery method is better! And Dr.Phil stop being an asshole!! stop pretend that you understand what this is about cuz u obviously don't!
luffaregb 6 months ago
fuck ross he's a pedophile
nropretsam 6 months ago
@nropretsam prove it
vidbid1 6 months ago
Ehm, to be honest, the whole PUA look is ridiculous :)
SubzeroedMind 7 months ago
at the end, ross presses his big red button to end the video
thats why theres no part 3
619Joe182 7 months ago
You know what gets me about these other guys compared to Ross is that whenever these "students" go through their program they end up looking exactly like them. Same hairstyle, same clothes and same retarded necklaces. Atleast Ross seems to preach more be an individual.
TheMightykaz 7 months ago
Ross is such a character.. hahahaha
KyiRui 7 months ago
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Lanceallen73 7 months ago
3:37
jleimon 7 months ago
Might be well dressed but arent those 2 guys gay?
glasnya 7 months ago
I'm sure Mystery could get RJ to suck his c0ck.
romaDa 7 months ago
Ross is hilarious. I just can't get enough of this guy's comedy. He's more powerful on his own than those others pansies are put together.
Vorpulus 8 months ago 14
@Vorpulus fuck RJ
Llamanatior 3 months ago
i love it how he says in the last video he is not teaching nor using hypnosis but at the end he admits to using and being a master practitioner of NLP when that is a form of waking hypnosis
motownkrazy 1 month ago
savoy actually looks not like a fat unshaven lazy bum = swine on this show wow!!!
this is before he lost pride in himself, and his reputation
majestic00000 8 months ago
Skreech, i'm glad you found work. i loved you on Save by the Bell!
hoho69 9 months ago
My god, why do these people dress so bad?!? What's with their obsession with maroon polyester shirts and cheap black polyester sport jackets? I suppose it's better than what they'd wear normally- Affliction shirts...
thatnamesorryhas 9 months ago
manupulation
ramencurry 10 months ago
ross is a piece of shit attention looking ass hole theres nothing wrong with mystery method love system he's just looking to stur trouble
sani45 11 months ago
some people need speed seduction - those two ugly gooks look like a couple of ninja turtles, all their missing is a talking rat!
tcdude001 11 months ago
@tcdude001
No, everybody uses speed seduction. speed seduction is basically a way to allow you use imaginations to lead you to feel certain feelings.
If you watch obama's speech, you will find lots of NLP that he uses ( includes the video he told us bin laden is dead). I dont know if he studied NLP or he is just natural. the fact is - everybody uses NLP because thats just a model of real human communication.
chinafobbyboi 10 months ago
wooow Dj fuji without mahawk haha
Zitroshinken 1 year ago
I see DJ Fuji
kwak76 1 year ago
I am not sure how Ross 'won' t this debate. The women seem to be creeped out and shaking their head, Dr Phil keeps harping on how Ross Markets his materials, and Ross does not get into much detail about how his system is better (which by the way I agree, SS is better).
And unless it's on another clip, Ross does not get to demonstrate or show any video of him or his students in action, so the audience only hears the positive feedback that the women give to the Love Systems (MM) approach.
Bizmarkie36 1 year ago
@Bizmarkie36
Any women would get creeped out by this debate. The first time i use the patterns , i creeped out myself !
chinafobbyboi 10 months ago
don't mess with Ross. You may not like him, but don't mess with him.
Look at this video.
Even "Dr" Phil is afraid of him.
Peace and Piece.
extremerap 1 year ago
3:18-3:48
look at the blond at the end. look how lit up her eyes are. she just had a great n tasty thought.
4mAALIKcHIN4 1 year ago
@4mAALIKcHIN4 she's looking at the nerd fight.
bigbobabc123 1 year ago
@4mAALIKcHIN4
yeah the lady in the red is like well I'll be damn.
both of those ladies looked pretty good.
I like how they have this preconceived "attitude"on there face
lopytube 10 months ago
Ross Jeffries NLP for the win!
4mAALIKcHIN4 1 year ago
GREAT!!! video! i think if it wasn't because of Dr. Phil this debate couldn't be done!!!
idronek 1 year ago
GREAT!!! video!
idronek 1 year ago
Where is part 3?
belthazormn1 1 year ago 9
@belthazormn1 the last part was not about ross Jeffries, or the pick up community. it was about a naive stupid woman who got scammed by her "boyfriend"
uploadmanagerful 1 year ago 22