Materialistic philosophy keeps Darwinism alive (Read -Show More)

[TADahar]

Can you or can you not answer these questions?:

- what were the biological processes/mechanisms through which god caused the Cambrian explosion?

- where is the evidence of these processes/mechanims?

- where is the evidence linking those processes/mechanisms to god?

- assuming that you have answered the previous questions, where is the scientific evidence proving that it was Allah - and no other god/gods - who caused the Cambrian explosion?

[princessaisha100]

Cited by Arabic satellite TV network Al-Arabiya. "The whole body of the Apostle is pure even his human waste." Dr Ali Gomaa, the Grand Mufti of Egypt."

[TADahar]

If matter is an illusion of the mind, and I cannot trust material evidence or even my own mind to help me form an accurate understanding of this world, why are YOU using evidence from the material world to prove Allah's existence?

If materialism is so bad, how is it that Harun Yahya himself is addicted to drugs, money and sex with minors? You people are just as bad as Christian creationists.

[farzanatasneem]

@TADahar

Harun Yahaya is a pious man and was falsely charged and he has been found non-guilty.

It was the work of freemasons who are doing false propaganda of Atheism who tried to mix drugs in his food while he was put in jail for false charges.

This was made into big issues by Atheists who want to disprove him, but they couldn't.

Read HarunYahya's Darwinism Refuted which cannot be refuted.

[TADahar]

The irony in this is not so much that Harun Yahya's creationism is Christian creationism modified for Islamic scripture and faith, the real irony is that Muslims are distancing themselves from him, the same way they're doing with Zakir Naik. I knew there had to be Muslims in this world with good sense!

[Desertphile]

Crock of shit detected: viewing terminated.

[farzanatasneem]

@Desertphile

Just read the "More information" section and if you cannot understand even that then go away.

This video is beyond your understanding.

[Desertphile]

@farzanatasneem ; Crock of shit still detected.

[farzanatasneem]

@Desertphile

What I want to say is more obvious in this video

watch?v=sMGMIpZck4I

[Desertphile]

@farzanatasneem ; Nobody cares what you wish to say. There is no such thing as "darwinism," and your video is a load of crap. Your occult superstition does not trump observed reality and never will: you'll just have to grow up and act like an adult.

[farzanatasneem]

@Desertphile

Watch the video and refute it point by point to be credible.

ATHEISM HAS BEEN DESTROYED BT LATEST SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERIES

[TADahar]

When we put aside the creation vs evolution nonsense, Muslims still have the inaccuracies in the Quran to contend with. The cosmology and embryology is wrong for example, and there's a lot of information included that was already established by the Greeks (the quran repeated both the correct and incorrect ones). You might as well believe the claim that there are references to flying machines, nuclear weapons and space station in the Bhagavad Gita.

[farzanatasneem]

@TADahar

There is nothing wrong written in Qur'an but Qur'an is not a science book as science is a vast subject not to be dealt by revelations.

Muslims believe that God sent revelations to every nation of mankind from the time he sent humans on earth.

So there is nothing amazing if there are prophesies about scientific advancement in previous scriptures whether Geeta or Bible or Zoroastrian scriptures.

They all originated from the same source, God !

[farzanatasneem]

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[Osamabindansker]

@TADahar re-check your sources.. the ' incorrect' ones have been debunked and re-classed as correct.. :/

[TADahar]

I could argue the science with you creationists but what would be the point? Your default attitude is one of proving god's existence, not the pure pursuit of knowldge for it's own sake. The questions of "Why?" and "Who made this?" are not questions you ask in science. The pertinent questions are ones like "How does it happen?" or "What are the effects?" or "What is the mechanism of action?".

[farzanatasneem]

The force that keeps evolution alive is not science. Evolution may be maintained by some "scientists," but behind it there is another influence at work.

This other influence is materialist philosophy. The theory of evolution is simply materialist philosophy applied to nature, and those who support that philosophy do so despite the scientific evidence.

[farzanatasneem]

Evolution is a politically motivated theory, not a scientific one.

That's why Ernst Haeckel and Arthur Keith resorted to fraud to prove it. 

[Osamabindansker]

the conclusion in the ' show more ' bit is way too complex for most athiests... lool

[TADahar]

@Osamabindansker The complexity of arguments preceding the conclusion itself is no problem. What puts me off is the conclusion that god exists - a conclusion that you already arrived at even before presenting the science.

[farzanatasneem]

@TADahar

Read the ""Show More "till end

Sir Arthur Keith, Anatomist and physical anthropologist who specialised in the study of fossil man said in 1953 that evolution was unproved and unprovable and that we believed in it only because the only alternative was special creation and that was UNTHINKABLE.

Scientists are thus agreed upon the validity of the evolution theory simply because , if they discard it, they will be left with no options but to believe in the concept of God

[Osamabindansker]

@TADahar yet you refuse to believe it because of your materialistic attachment to this world...thats what show more says..

[farzanatasneem]

@Osamabindansker

In summary, the CONCLUSION of Show more says that most evolutionists believe in Evolution because they do not want to accept God as their creator .

[Osamabindansker]

@farzanatasneem yeah i know.. the quran poses the same argument for all kuffar.. that they do not accept god because of their worldy enjoyment / attachments..

[farzanatasneem]

Conviction of the reasonableness of theism and the tenousness of atheism usually in itself does not cause a man to accept practical theism. There seems to be an almost innate suspicion that the recognition of Deity will somehow rob one of freedom. To the scholar , who cherishes intellectual liberty, any thought of abridged freedom is specially dreadful. –George Herbert Blount

[TADahar]

What this video does is arrange natural phenomenon side by side, provide superficial scientific explanations for them and finally arrive at the "inevitable" conclusion that only god could create all that. I would love to see Muslim creationists like you debate with Christian creationists. Imagine that! Both of you spouting the same nonsense, but then ending up not being able to come to an agreement about which religion is more "scientific".

[4evertruthful]

@TADahar So waht is your opinion?

Which religion is more scientific ?

Atheism?

Did you read "Show More"

[TADahar]

@4evertruthful There are no scientific religions. And atheism is not a religion, it's merely a lack of belief in god. And yes, I read show more. It's the same nonsense I've read in Harun Yahya et al. Going from observations to the conclusion that "there has to be a god!" is a huge jump in reasoning. You still have to show that the processes that produced the universe and the things in it are connected to god. That's what's missing from your whole argument.

[4evertruthful]

@TADahar

Once the processes that are produced in the universe are found to be intelligently designed and are showing themselves to be preplanned then we must conclude that there is a planner.

This planner has to be one as many planners cannot continue to work harmoiously for long time this universe existed.

[farzanatasneem]

@TADahar

Did you read the HarunYahya's book "Darwinism Refuted "??

[farzanatasneem]

@TADahar

Religion was sent by One God who was later mis-interpreted by later generation.That's why there are different religions but at the time of revelations they were all the same.

Qur'an is the last word of God and is well preserved till date.

[TADahar]

Even if I accept your arguments that there is a god and that this god created everything in this universe, which god should I worship? What makes you so sure your religion is undeniably right compared to Judaism or Christianity? But wait, why limit our discussion only to the monotheistic religions? What about polytheistic religions like Hinduism?

[4evertruthful]

@TADahar

Talk about Atheism

Is Atheism without foundation or not ?

[TADahar]

@4evertruthful The basis and foundation for atheism: Using the senses that are available to me, I cannot conclude without doubt that there is a god. So there's no reason to believe in god.

[Osamabindansker]

@TADahar you would have to study into religions to figure this out.. you can rule out hinduism.. why would the god( s) of this world command us to drink cow piss and our own piss??

[TADahar]

@Osamabindansker Why would god, through the words of his prophet, tell men that being circumcised is the natural state of man, but yet not have it be made wajib? Why not just create each man without a foreskin? The foreskin is not a separate part of the penis and it has a biological purpose in sexual intercourse. For every piece of research extolling the health benefits of circumcision there is another that refutes it. Every religion has at least one stupid instruction. Hinduism isn't special

[Osamabindansker]

@TADahar stupid? the medical benefits of getting a circumcision out-weighs the health risks..

there is actually a good reason why the foreskin is there .. its crucial to good health during early development.. do your research dude the truth is out there...

hinduism on the other hand is just outrageously fake.. why would god instruct us to drink our own piss for 7 years lool or the whole re-incarnation theory , which according to it , there should be less humans in the world atm...

[TADahar]

@Osamabindansker You're going of topic. I wasn't talking about the benefits of circumcision vs thehealth risks - I was talking about there being medical research that refutes the claim that circumcision is anti-cancer, anti-AIDS. You are twisitng my words. YOU'RE the one who needs to do your research. The problem with you is that before you even look at alternative explanations and evidence you'ver already made up your mind according to your own religious bias. I'm not the problem, you are.

[Osamabindansker]

@TADahar no one said its anti-cancer nor did anyone say its anti-aids.. stop being retarded..there is evidence that it reduces the risk of cancer.. and aids is a virally transmitted disease its got nothing to do with circumcision.. im not even going to entertain your scientific view since you just said that.. go do more research boy..

[TADahar]

@Osamabindansker Retarded? Look in the mirror. Read your own comments. List for me your reasons why you think circumcision is necessary. And then after that explain to me if god is so great why didn't he just create us "without" foreskins?

[Osamabindansker]

@TADahar says the guy who even entertains the idea that aids can be prevented by circumcision? where did you learn science? from a talking monkey?..If god willed.. he could have made us all on one religion.. but he didnt.. we were given freewill to choose ... getting a circumcision is an act that shows faith to god.. it is an act which is better for yourself..scientifically i recall hearing a lecture where the lecturer mentioned reasons as to why foreskin is required while a baby develops

[TADahar]

@Osamabindansker I wasn't suggesting it, don't twist my words. I was relaying to you the opinions of other pro-circumcision people. If you can't even read, maybe you should go back to school. Or is it a case of you wanting to follow your esteemed prophet in his illiteracy. Imagine that, an illiterate prophet... I never asked to be circumcised, but it was performed on me anyway. So much for the freedom to choose. Islam is false and Muslims are fools, the same with all other religions.

[Osamabindansker]

@TADahar and there it is..the insult.. the equivalent of a cornered dog lashing out ... keep trying dude.. read more :P

[TADahar]

@Osamabindansker What's that even mean, you moron...

[farzanatasneem]

@TADahar

It is the Atheism which has been proven false by each and every facts revealed through science.

[TADahar]

@farzanatasneem

Can you or can you not answer these questions?:

- what were the biological processes/mechanisms through which god caused the Cambrian explosion?

- where is the evidence of these processes/mechanims?

- where is the evidence linking those processes/mechanisms to god?

- assuming that you have answered the previous questions, where is the scientific evidence proving that it was Allah - and no other god/gods - who caused the Cambrian explosion?

[TADahar]

@Osamabindansker And why are you so stuck on the circumcision issue. I was already moving on to other things. Why keep harping on it? Do you have a fetish for mutilated sexual organs?

[Osamabindansker]

@TADahar then stop posting the same questions on my profile nigger...

[farzanatasneem]

@Osamabindansker

The religion does not ask Hindus to drink cow piss but they were asked to keep cow with care as it gave them prosperity but they exceeded the limits of that care and started worshiping cows.

[Osamabindansker]

@farzanatasneem it does ask them to do these funny things.. its in their holy scriptures..

[farzanatasneem]

@TADahar

Conviction of the reasonableness of theism and the tenousness of atheism usually in itself does not cause a man to accept practical theism. There seems to be an almost innate suspicion that the recognition of Deity will somehow rob one of freedom. To the scholar , who cherishes intellectual liberty, any thought of abridged freedom is specially dreadful. –George Herbert Blount

[TADahar]

@farzanatasneem Quoting others only show a lack of original thinking.

[farzanatasneem]

@TADahar

That was quoted for you to understand that even if someone gets convinced with existence of God, he will not accept Theism due to fear of having his freedom restricted.

[farzanatasneem]

The force that keeps evolution alive is not science. Evolution may be maintained by some "scientists," but behind it there is another influence at work.

This other influence is materialist philosophy. The theory of evolution is simply materialist philosophy applied to nature, and those who support that philosophy do so despite the scientific evidence

[farzanatasneem]

@TADahar

And when will the end come??

We humans have been given only a 100 years of life which will not be given back to change our decision if God can be found in experiments after say 100 years !

[farzanatasneem]

@TADahar

1. The immensity of the universe points to one God who is unimaginably wise and knowledgable.

2. The complexity of life points to a god as it cannot exist by simple mathematical laws

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3. The apparent suitability of nature to human existence points to a god

4. The observation that objects in our daily life have makers  points to a god