"Scholars have easily exposed Testimony as a fraud within only a year of its publication" Peter Kivy. Antithetical Arts: On the Ancient Quarrel Between Literature and Music. Oxford University Press US, 2009
What Stalin have done? He perpetrated genocide of his own people. Imagine that you can't trust none and none cares about you, even your own country.
It seems to me, the best thing is to listen to music and find your answers in it. Was Shostakovich against the regime? What it was to live in Soviet Union in 1930-s and 1940-s? - everything in the music.
He has never been a communist. if you're living in America or England or another west country, you'd never know how it is to live in the communist country, it's worst then fascism.
You should read not only about him, byt also about communism.
And as Shostakovich said, the Leningrad Symphony is not about Leningrad destroyed by Hitler, but about Leningrad tortured by Staling and only finished off by Hitler.
Amatherasu1789 , exactly, people should pay more respect to Shostakovich, to the suffering of the people during those horrible years in Leningrad, and not to make any political statements in the comments for this video.
There is quite a big campaing going on at Youtube with motto "Stalin is worth than Hitler", which is of course is not true.
One thing is respect for the sufferings of the Russian people during the war....but i think they also suffered the leadership of criminals like Stalin...
Yes, indeed the Russian people suffered a lot under Stalin. But, saying that "Stalin is worth than Hitler" really offends the feeling of people who survived through the WWII, and the memory of those who perished.
Of course i admire how they fought but Stalin used their blood their sacrifice to justify himself a kind of propaganda...He was a big trajedy for Russia for their people and even for their artists, Shostakovich and many others like Meyerhold were accused of traition to the essence of the Russian art...Read something about "Lady Macbeth of the Distric of Mentsk...
Sorry to tell you Stalin was worse than Hitler...maybe Stalin had more time than Hitler to practise his "hobbies"...Holomodor in Ukraine, the Katyn forest, torture and prosecution of disidents and artists...
Shostakovich was never fan of this guy, but defending one´s nation is one thing, other is follow the ideas of that criminal...
Amatherasu1789, I thought you are real historican, but it seems that you studied well only the history of Spain. Please read more books about Russia/USSR, memories and statistics about WWII, only then you will understand what was really going on.
Oh...you don´t know many things i see...for sure if i were studying just only history of Spain, in special II Republic...i´d say oh, Communism was not so bad...Because i was reading about other things, i know the perspective of people from the other side of the wall...so my conclusion is any kind of dictator fascist or communist is a trajedy for people...and suffering is not only measured in death victims...
Actually, I know more than you can imagine, especially about WWII, Stalin, etc. The problem is that even historicans like you use wrong fact and interpretations. No-one said Communism was ideal in the first 20-30 years, remember the French revolution, think about European history.
Yet, you should say "thank you" 10 times a day that people of the Soviet Union ( "The Communists" ) saved the whole Europe and world from ugly fashism.
stalin was a monster. millions died under his oppressive rule.
you talk about the suffering in leningrad during the blockade. learn some history and find out what stalin had done with the leningrad city leaders who helped the people make it through the blockade after the war was over. hint: "the leningrad affair".
perhaps i wa a bit rude in my response and i apologize for that. but the nature of this video clip invites political discussion. in this clip shostakovich speaks out (allegedly) against stalin.
the reason why i responded is because it disturbs me to see young russians today who only remember the CCCP for how powerful it was but are not aware of how poor the quality of life was, particularly in the early 20th century. almost all families lost members to the camps and prison. it was terrible.
If you are healthy and strong enough for labor, otherwise you will simply disappear after a 4am visit from the NKVD and a trip to the Lubyanka basement!
Es ist so lächerlich, daß man nicht einfach zuhören kann, sondern immer Stalin mit Dreck beworfen wird und Schostakowitsch als sein unterdrücktes Genie dargestellt werden muß. Das hat ja bereits Zwangscharakter in den Massenmedien.
Maybe his and Stalin communism has nothing in common (like you know what is Stalin communism is) but it has nothing to do with comments in this video. Total bullshit aimed for Western idiots. You just need to listen his music to be sure that he is a communist who loved his country. Only way after the Stalin's death some information about all that horrible things begin to be public. During WW2 nobody could even think that Stalin would do anything bad to soviet people.
No, a lot of people knew that Stalin coul do very bad things but they were all just too afraid to say anything. Take Molotov (Stalins right hand man), hes let his wifer be arrested and didn't say anything because he was afraid of his own well being.
yeah, i heard that a similar thing happened to prokofiev.. he lived in i think paris and then the u.s. but decided to come back to russia with his new american wife... she got arrested and he did virtually nothing.. and this isn't to say anything bad about prokofiev because what can you do? (i only heard this story from a teacher so it may not be 100% accurate so don't eat me alive please!)
Prokofiev had a Spanish wife, Lina. When he moved back to Russia, the second world war just began. So Stalin gathered his best artist, politicians and scientist and sent them to the Ural mountains. Thus, Prokofiev's family was left behind in St.Petersburg or Moscow. In the Urals Prokofiev married a new wife, and just after it was an official marriage, Prokofiev's old wife was arrested.
I take it you didn't bother to notice that Testimony has been to be a fraud, invented by Solomon Volkov. Read Laurel Fay's book. Not that I'm much of a fan of the music, but I do think musicology should be serious.
What a bullshit about Stalin at the end. Shosty would never said that. Shosty was communist all his live by the way. And all his music is very soviet.
this is a really significant symphony. during world war I, germany surrounded leningrad (seiged) and were torturing the trapped russian people. he wrote the symphony so it would be broadcast to the people in leningrad. to give them hope. lol - althought shostakovich brilliantly inlays a musical commentary against the fascism of germany and mother russia
Was WW II as far as I know and for the broadcast to happen the Russians had to make a feint attack so that the broadcasting wouldn't be interupted by German bombs. After all the concert was played in Leningrad. That broadcast was used as propaganda as well. After all, the Russians in Leningrad were safe, since they could go to a concert. The signal given to other Russians was that the sovjet army had the situation in Leningrad under control, while in fact the citizens were very low on suplies.
Shosti's career would never have been possible without Stalin, which must have made it that much more difficult for him to admit that Stalin was a monster. How a man of his genius could have lived such a contradictory existence is hard to imagine -- unless he was a genius.
There are a few segments of this Emmy Award-winning documentary posted... the longest segments are those posted by yakovsmimov55... the original documantary is about 79 minutes long.
Muchas gracias por compartirlo.
sirjuandabicho 1 month ago
Love Shostakovich for ever!
tophatchristy 2 months ago
whats the pice he is playing in the piano?
firedeathterror999 2 months ago
Shosta is wonderful
is life life life
tak tak tak
michipixie1 6 months ago
"Scholars have easily exposed Testimony as a fraud within only a year of its publication" Peter Kivy. Antithetical Arts: On the Ancient Quarrel Between Literature and Music. Oxford University Press US, 2009
dicthash 9 months ago
It is strict fact that Shostakovich never said such words. This is quite a primitive fake.
dicthash 9 months ago
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stalin was a monster. millions german soldiers died under his oppressive rule.
dicthash 9 months ago
Is this english quotation from Testimony?
MusicInvestigation 1 year ago
What Stalin have done? He perpetrated genocide of his own people. Imagine that you can't trust none and none cares about you, even your own country.
It seems to me, the best thing is to listen to music and find your answers in it. Was Shostakovich against the regime? What it was to live in Soviet Union in 1930-s and 1940-s? - everything in the music.
dissolveANDcollapse 1 year ago
I have this recording in a documentary about Shostakovich's war-symphonies (the 7th and the 8th).
MarcheseCadmio88 1 year ago
what is he playing 45 seconds in?
paranoid711 1 year ago
интересно,когда было зделана это видеозапись?
cartoonangel1 2 years ago
Remember the Kulaks.
vampirelawd 2 years ago
Does anybody have a date on this?
MeeluMaru 2 years ago
1942
Amatherasu1789 2 years ago
He has never been a communist. if you're living in America or England or another west country, you'd never know how it is to live in the communist country, it's worst then fascism.
You should read not only about him, byt also about communism.
And as Shostakovich said, the Leningrad Symphony is not about Leningrad destroyed by Hitler, but about Leningrad tortured by Staling and only finished off by Hitler.
xempress 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
You stupid fashist low-wage troll !!! Who is paying you to spread the lies like this?
MadMaxUSSR 3 years ago
More respect ...a video about Shostakovich deserve good comments and respect!
Amatherasu1789 3 years ago 9
Amatherasu1789 , exactly, people should pay more respect to Shostakovich, to the suffering of the people during those horrible years in Leningrad, and not to make any political statements in the comments for this video.
There is quite a big campaing going on at Youtube with motto "Stalin is worth than Hitler", which is of course is not true.
MadMaxUSSR 3 years ago 2
One thing is respect for the sufferings of the Russian people during the war....but i think they also suffered the leadership of criminals like Stalin...
Amatherasu1789 3 years ago 3
Yes, indeed the Russian people suffered a lot under Stalin. But, saying that "Stalin is worth than Hitler" really offends the feeling of people who survived through the WWII, and the memory of those who perished.
MadMaxUSSR 3 years ago
Of course i admire how they fought but Stalin used their blood their sacrifice to justify himself a kind of propaganda...He was a big trajedy for Russia for their people and even for their artists, Shostakovich and many others like Meyerhold were accused of traition to the essence of the Russian art...Read something about "Lady Macbeth of the Distric of Mentsk...
Amatherasu1789 3 years ago 2
Sorry to tell you Stalin was worse than Hitler...maybe Stalin had more time than Hitler to practise his "hobbies"...Holomodor in Ukraine, the Katyn forest, torture and prosecution of disidents and artists...
Shostakovich was never fan of this guy, but defending one´s nation is one thing, other is follow the ideas of that criminal...
Amatherasu1789 3 years ago
Amatherasu1789, I thought you are real historican, but it seems that you studied well only the history of Spain. Please read more books about Russia/USSR, memories and statistics about WWII, only then you will understand what was really going on.
MadMaxUSSR 3 years ago
Oh...you don´t know many things i see...for sure if i were studying just only history of Spain, in special II Republic...i´d say oh, Communism was not so bad...Because i was reading about other things, i know the perspective of people from the other side of the wall...so my conclusion is any kind of dictator fascist or communist is a trajedy for people...and suffering is not only measured in death victims...
Amatherasu1789 3 years ago
Actually, I know more than you can imagine, especially about WWII, Stalin, etc. The problem is that even historicans like you use wrong fact and interpretations. No-one said Communism was ideal in the first 20-30 years, remember the French revolution, think about European history.
Yet, you should say "thank you" 10 times a day that people of the Soviet Union ( "The Communists" ) saved the whole Europe and world from ugly fashism.
MadMaxUSSR 3 years ago
And the American equipment they received :p (don't shoot me, I'm Belgian)
drummerponsi 2 years ago
stalin was a monster. millions died under his oppressive rule.
you talk about the suffering in leningrad during the blockade. learn some history and find out what stalin had done with the leningrad city leaders who helped the people make it through the blockade after the war was over. hint: "the leningrad affair".
educate yourself.
movitmovit 2 years ago 7
Let's stop this political garbage in this video's comments.
It wasn't me who started this discussion, but I will surely end it.
Come to Russia, learn the real history of that country.
educate yourself properly
MadMaxUSSR 2 years ago 3
perhaps i wa a bit rude in my response and i apologize for that. but the nature of this video clip invites political discussion. in this clip shostakovich speaks out (allegedly) against stalin.
the reason why i responded is because it disturbs me to see young russians today who only remember the CCCP for how powerful it was but are not aware of how poor the quality of life was, particularly in the early 20th century. almost all families lost members to the camps and prison. it was terrible.
movitmovit 2 years ago 3
It is really quite clear that the USSR screwed over practically all of eastern europe. You have fallen into their trap, their propaganda.
FIFAfutbol828 2 years ago 4
This comment has received too many negative votes show
don't involve Glorious Comrade Stalin in your treachery
reedwingtwo 2 years ago
or what? off to kolyma for me?
:)
movitmovit 2 years ago
If you are healthy and strong enough for labor, otherwise you will simply disappear after a 4am visit from the NKVD and a trip to the Lubyanka basement!
reedwingtwo 2 years ago
lol!
petitequinte 2 years ago
"low-wage"? ive never heard that insult before...
phdecora 2 years ago
Es ist so lächerlich, daß man nicht einfach zuhören kann, sondern immer Stalin mit Dreck beworfen wird und Schostakowitsch als sein unterdrücktes Genie dargestellt werden muß. Das hat ja bereits Zwangscharakter in den Massenmedien.
edgar0001 3 years ago
Gran hombre Shostakovich!!!
digno de admiración.
IngridAtenea 3 years ago
@plemax
read a bit of "testimony", his memoirs, and you ll see that his and stallins communism had nothing in common
shekyb 3 years ago 2
Maybe his and Stalin communism has nothing in common (like you know what is Stalin communism is) but it has nothing to do with comments in this video. Total bullshit aimed for Western idiots. You just need to listen his music to be sure that he is a communist who loved his country. Only way after the Stalin's death some information about all that horrible things begin to be public. During WW2 nobody could even think that Stalin would do anything bad to soviet people.
plemax 3 years ago
No, a lot of people knew that Stalin coul do very bad things but they were all just too afraid to say anything. Take Molotov (Stalins right hand man), hes let his wifer be arrested and didn't say anything because he was afraid of his own well being.
Ylviste 3 years ago
yeah, i heard that a similar thing happened to prokofiev.. he lived in i think paris and then the u.s. but decided to come back to russia with his new american wife... she got arrested and he did virtually nothing.. and this isn't to say anything bad about prokofiev because what can you do? (i only heard this story from a teacher so it may not be 100% accurate so don't eat me alive please!)
joznick1 2 years ago
Prokofiev had a Spanish wife, Lina. When he moved back to Russia, the second world war just began. So Stalin gathered his best artist, politicians and scientist and sent them to the Ural mountains. Thus, Prokofiev's family was left behind in St.Petersburg or Moscow. In the Urals Prokofiev married a new wife, and just after it was an official marriage, Prokofiev's old wife was arrested.
FIFAfutbol828 2 years ago
was he forced to remarry or did he betray his wife simply because he was away from her for a few years?
movitmovit 2 years ago
I take it you didn't bother to notice that Testimony has been to be a fraud, invented by Solomon Volkov. Read Laurel Fay's book. Not that I'm much of a fan of the music, but I do think musicology should be serious.
jsb62 3 years ago
What a bullshit about Stalin at the end. Shosty would never said that. Shosty was communist all his live by the way. And all his music is very soviet.
plemax 3 years ago
You are just as blind and ignorant as the Soviet officials were back then :-P
DrParkMD517 3 years ago
And you are stupid as American of all the times.
plemax 3 years ago
does anyone know when and where this speech was made, and who it was made to?
jcadden85 3 years ago
this is a really significant symphony. during world war I, germany surrounded leningrad (seiged) and were torturing the trapped russian people. he wrote the symphony so it would be broadcast to the people in leningrad. to give them hope. lol - althought shostakovich brilliantly inlays a musical commentary against the fascism of germany and mother russia
squelchtheory 3 years ago 2
Was WW II as far as I know and for the broadcast to happen the Russians had to make a feint attack so that the broadcasting wouldn't be interupted by German bombs. After all the concert was played in Leningrad. That broadcast was used as propaganda as well. After all, the Russians in Leningrad were safe, since they could go to a concert. The signal given to other Russians was that the sovjet army had the situation in Leningrad under control, while in fact the citizens were very low on suplies.
drummerponsi 2 years ago
Thanks for post this.What a great work is this symphon.I like very much this symphony and this movement.
ArturoAlejandroS 3 years ago 2
Shosti's career would never have been possible without Stalin, which must have made it that much more difficult for him to admit that Stalin was a monster. How a man of his genius could have lived such a contradictory existence is hard to imagine -- unless he was a genius.
gnolti 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this.
nibelungensohn 3 years ago
Interesting, I thought he would have a lower voice.
releasethefrogs 3 years ago
Yep, he's got a high squeaky voice.
ecwaufisxtreme 3 years ago
reminds me of John Lennon. looks and voice.
shykay 3 years ago
hahahaha.
ArturoAlejandroS 3 years ago 2
Thank you for this great video! Do you have any other clips from the documentary?
anemoneriva 4 years ago
There are a few segments of this Emmy Award-winning documentary posted... the longest segments are those posted by yakovsmimov55... the original documantary is about 79 minutes long.
SeptSongs 4 years ago
yakovsmirnov55
a1s2d3f4g5q1w2e3 3 years ago
Is this fragment part of a documental?
VICTORMANUELMORALES 4 years ago
yes
shavkatikk 4 years ago