Your enemies in Crysis: Warhead always shoot to kill. Oh wait... do they?

[kirillxt]

fake'n'gay

[pisseddotcom]

@kirillxt No matter how hard you try to hide your ignorance, you fail.

[Omegarawr1]

My only argument, is what kid will have a good enough computer to run this. I also love the fact their bullets go through you.

[kigamitya]

This is a problem that (enemy shoot) hit rate doesn't change. Too close, but no difference. :p

[mrxxx0]

I fail to see why it is the console players fault as to why CRYSIS WARHEAD as crappy AI.

[PivotStorm]

lol

koreans: "AMERICAAAAAAAANS!"

you: "im british you muppet"

[Catepillar95]

ehh you have it on easy

[pisseddotcom]

Now seriously, are you people really so dumb or are you just kidding me?

1) I posted two videos as a video reply, both have me navigate to menu and show the difficulty. Second one has delta difficulty as well to show the difference.

2) ...there still is this 'why don't you try it and see for yourself?' thing I am repeating in almost every comment. Is it really so hard or you simply don't want to do it to so you don't have to face the reality?

[realflow100]

@pisseddotcom did that freaking car really move by itself????

[NvidaGeforce]

Using Cheats

[pisseddotcom]

For god's sake how many times do you want me to repeat this: If you don't believe it, launch the damned game and give it a try yourself!

Bottom line: Neither cheats nor mods were used while making this video.

[shitfuckerification]

fuckin' metallica :/

anyway,i never knew that.I actually die in that game >_> sucks to be me i guess...

[gta4madman]

@shitfuckerification metallica kicks ass!! except for entersand man and master of puppets and one i love motorbreath and shortest straw!!!

[painkiller9404]

not really, they weren't loyal to their fans. I only like Kill Em All and Ride The Lightning and most of the stuff on Kill Em All is Dave Mustaine's,so that doesn't count. There's some of Dave's stuff on Ride The Lightning and Master Of Puppets too. The real Metallica sold out many years ago.

[gta4madman]

@painkiller9404 holy shit dude i love kill em all like phantom lord and motorbreath also hit the lights and ride the lightning is fucking awesome i like escape and trapped under ice and don't forget the actual song ride the lightning >:) lol

[painkiller9404]

Aha. I prefer to listen to other bands tho :P Rite now I'm listening to Megadeth and after that I'm heading to W.A.S.P. , maybe some Iron Maiden too :D

[gta4madman]

@painkiller9404 i like megadeth too i love the album count down to extinction .lolz

[painkiller9404]

I'm listening to it rite now ! Hell yea !

\m/

[cyberdaemon]

The same codes "ai_RODLowHealthMercyTime = 1" and "g_playerLowHealthThreshold = 0" exist in normal Crysis config too , but turning them to "0" you disable such feature which makes enemies to kill you again.

[Hornilope]

this is bullshitty as fuck though i agree, crytek took the "far cry is frustrating" criticism way out of proportion when they designed the difficulty of this game.

both crysis and warhead where way to easy even on the hardest settings. (although crysis 1 didnt have this problem afaik. i should check.)

[cyberdaemon]

The cfg files indicate that it does have the same thing.

[Hornilope]

they suck at aiming, that isnt the same thing as bad AI.

[cyberdaemon]

can i still switch to single pistol/smg when having them in dual ?

[paranoid492]

they just wanted to make the game more accessible and fun then crysis 1

[pisseddotcom]

Maybe it's just me getting old and bitchy (kinda sooner then I expected, heh), but that's exactly what I hate about modern games. I loved those all times when games had no mercy on you. Always frustrating at some point, but those were the moments that made me keep a stiff upper lip and keep trying until I eventually managed to beat the damned thing... and enjoy the well deserved feeling of victory...

[pisseddotcom]

... Sadly for me things work different nowadays. It's no longer you who has to improve your skill to make it to victorious end. The games actually started adjusting to player being lame. I don't think that's what any 'game' should be doing, no matter how 'accessibility' seems like a fine idea. It's like making a homing ball that's guaranteed to hit a baseball bat each and every time so that everyone can have a 'fair share' of fun not constantly spoiled by that evil pitcher...

[paranoid492]

but think about it, that suits pretty much a full suit of bulletproof armor? its either made of metal or nanotubing

[subbss]

Let us be clear here, this does not happen in Crysis. I was considering getting Crysis: Warhead even though I heard shaky reviews of it, now I will simply save my money. This was very interesting.

[cyberdaemon]

Go to the config files and change the lines :

ai_RODLowHealthMercyTime = 1

g_playerLowHealthThreshold = 1

Into :

ai_RODLowHealthMercyTime = 0

g_playerLowHealthThreshold = 0

They will not spare you then.

You can make them speak korean in any difficulty by changing line "ai_UseAlternativeReadability = 1" into "ai_UseAlternativeReadability = 0" too.

[realflow100]

@cyberdaemon YOUR LYING! I DID IT WITHOUT THESE CHEATS! ON HARDESTS DIFFICULTY AND I NEVER DIED ONCE!

[cyberdaemon]

@realflow100 These are not cheats, they make enemies not to spare you when on low health. By default, they stop shooting you, if your health is below 30. By the way, i generally play with one restriction - no invisibility :P

[realflow100]

@cyberdaemon ya of course you wouldn't want to use cloak if they shoot you or see you you die super fast

[cyberdaemon]

@realflow100 No, i generally dont use cloack at all. Under any circumstances. Unexeptionally.

[realflow100]

@cyberdaemon but? then where would be the fun? you would just die like crazy then!

[cyberdaemon]

@realflow100 Not really, im quiet patient guy. I played once the first Crysis mission (not warhead) with extra enemies mod and it too me more than a hour to finish the first mission. I was even pushed from one side of a map all the way back to near the second village you see. Thats half way trough the whole map. I constantly had to run back because of these trees are not really good cover. I didn't fall back due to scripted sequence, it was random. I don't see this in standard shooters, why :(

[realflow100]

@cyberdaemon eh?

[cyberdaemon]

@realflow100 Wut? That makes game more challenging :P 

[realflow100]

@cyberdaemon lol!

[theraVen27]

@cyberdaemon

because ur not 8 and u can actually play the game now.

shooting back is a great way to defend against that....

[Rekteha]

So, give this nanosuit for everyone on Earth to wear and Earth is saved. XD

Wow, did Crytek seriously think we'd tolerate this?

[darshy1991]

this cant be real, the first time i played this game and i kept dying over and over and over again on the second hardest difficulty. by like two koreans

[pisseddotcom]

Not a single second of this video is faked. If you don't believe it, I'd suggest you do what I recommend in the video: just go give it a try!

And just by the way I believe that Arkmenra1880's findings posted in the discussion bellow are more then enough to prove this.

[spikeyfreakboy]

im sure if you up the difficulty they will be less likely to let you live ;)

[GoRDiNeSSSSS]

Go and Play On Elite ;]

And Try to do This

[JamoZ46]

" 2) Don't get close enough to meelee. This will probably never happen in real gameplay as I have actually never seen anyone using the max. strenght + meelee attack combo. Why would you run to an armed guy to punch him in the face when you can simply shoot him from the distance? "

this is actually the most fun...sneak up cloaked behind a enemy and them max strenght punch the hell out of him...

[dawoof]

Cause hes a Maaan :P

[roan6903]

omfg this is ridiculous

in Farcry2 the enemies are on the contrary unreasonably hard

4 example, I can be sniped by thier pistols

and the mortars always know where exactly I am going to, even though I'm driving like hell in the dense jungle

[Arkmenra1880]

screw all consoles!!!! haha

[Arkmenra1880]

U should see it in Crysis after u save the hostage in Recovery , on the way to meet Prophet.. all those guys in the jungle actually dont kill u but giv u the "Oh My Gawd .. that was a f**king close one!" moments...lolz

[Arkmenra1880]

I think this is the 1st video where nobody has sworn or cussed in the comment section....wow....this is ...another amazing Phenomenon..... u guys are the ones I should add in Facebook or something... lol

[Arkmenra1880]

its to supposedly be realsitic as the enemy is having so much recoil from the gun that the 1st few shots hit u until to an inch of death they start to miss u ad run to take cover

[Arkmenra1880]

I did notice it u know how?..go to the cfg file on the Bauer_difficulty and u can see there it says: -- Ambient fire, enemies not in the quota cannot hit the player

ai_AmbientFireUpdateInterval = 0.5

ai_AmbientFireQuota = 20

and in Crysis :

ai_RODLowHealthMercyTime = 1.5

[cyberdaemon]

Should remove it completely :D No mercy :D

[Drozten]

I think what they did was order the enemies to fire warning shots, telling you "Hey, these bullets are real, and we may use them to kill you." Only they never got the shoot to kill order, so continue firing blanks.

[yngwiejunior]

master of puppets!

[pisseddotcom]

I know everyone heard it at least a thousand times, but nevertheless the song kicks ass!

[OutSideTheMatrix]

pisseddotcom, first of all, well done for picking up on this. But exactly what were you doing when you realised? Just standing there and letting the soldiers shoot you? lol.

I usually play on normal first time round and then always on delta difficulty, so I didn't realise this glitch/quirk existed.

But really, if you're that concerned why not play at delta? Crysis is the best first person shooter out there and I think you're being unduly harsh on it's sequel because of this one thing.

[OutSideTheMatrix]

Maybe Crytek will release a patch to address this issue. Because I think it really does kill the game if you know this thing exists. Luckily, it doesn't exist in Crysis.

[pisseddotcom]

I can see your point, but the problem for me is that Delta difficulty seems a little unbalanced. I can beat the game on Delta in few hours for sure, but I don't enjoy it because enemies on Delta have that common nasty FPS habit of shooting through tons of bushes anytime they see you through a hole measuring 1x1 pixel while standing 0,5 KM away.

Anyway, maybe I am harsh, but seeing the games being optimized for stupidity and lack of skill makes me mad. And kind of sad too :-/

[OutSideTheMatrix]

Delta is intense, which is why I like it. But it is nice to play at normal difficulty too, especially when you haven't played the game in a while. Knowing about this 'not dying' thing has put me off playing it at normal. I think it should be made clear to Crytek that this kind of thing will not be tolerated. If no one speaks up, then they will carry on doing it.

So I'm glad you've brought attention to it. Although, maybe you could tone down your critcism a little about the overall game ...

[pisseddotcom]

I probably will. I was way too upset while I was making this vid, so I most probably let off all my anger by putting it into this thing. Maybe if I finally manage to save some free time (lots of work recently) for myself, I'll remake this into something more proper. Thanks both for your interest and useful advice.

[OutSideTheMatrix]

No probs. It's a righteous cause, after all lol.

[pisseddotcom]

And to answer your question about how exactly I found it out:

I was slowly growing a suspicion that this is happening, because I realized I am experiencing moments I now call "Phew, that was close." too often. I almost forgot about that when we had a discussion with a friend of mine about Crysis, during which I mentioned my suspicion. He didn't think that something like that could ever happen in a game, so I when I came home I just launched random save from C:W and FRAPS. The result is this vid

[OutSideTheMatrix]

It is surprising that no one else noticed this. Like I said before, I usually play on Delta difficulty, so there was no way for me to realise this quirk existed. But now that you've highlighted the issue, I'm sure there will be a lot more videos uploaded about it.

But you were the first to notice and these videos are proof of that ;-)

[Donovan755tukustan]

that is cuz u have it on easy dumb ass

[pisseddotcom]

No I don't. It is set on Realistic. If you put some of your effort into watching the other videos I've uploaded to make that crystal clear instead of trying to make yourself look so much smarter then me, you could see me setting difficulty before I start to play. Or take my hint and try it for yourself and you'll find out they do it on all difficulties except for Delta (and even on Delta this still kind of happens). Next time try to find out how things really are before calling someone dumb ass.

[bjohnblazkowicz]

you can't even talk to people wake them up. they like to swallow any shit joke-game companies offer them. i'd call this procedure the retardization of men by visual functions

[Fokogrilo]

calate filho da puta! =)