OS X contains powerful defenses to help keep your Mac safe from PC viruses and other malware without the hassle of constant alerts and sweeps. And if you misplace your Mac, built-in features in OS X Lion can help you find it and protect your data. BIIITCH!
@valonw what defenses. The same defenses that are worse than what comes with Windows? The ones that are easier to hack than any other modern OS? Where hackers can gain complete control over the computer in a matter of seconds? Yeah, that really sounds state of the art
And how, pray tell, do you know that? Have you actually ran a virus checker to make sure? That's like saying, "I don't have cancer, but I've NEVER been to the doctor to find out!"
Here's a little tip: malware, trojans, macroviruses and rootkits are the #1 threats to the Mac OSX platform. 3/4 of them don't require ROOT access to work, and all of them can be running silently, right under your nose, phishing your info and logging your keystrokes without you being the wiser.
@MaestroDraven until I started college, i was on PCs. I switched over to accomodate my program. While on PCs, i got viruses right, left, and centre. They stalled the computer, it crashed, froze, etc.
None of the above has EVER occurred with my Mac.
I think I'd recognize a virus if there was one present.
I suggest you read "Enterprise Mac Security: OSX Snow Leopard" to learn just how wrong you truly are. You'll learn first-hand about the major threats that Macs face. Crashing is far less dangerous than having your keystrokes logged and your personal info be stolen, or your Mac controlled remotely without your knowledge.
Oh, and the book I reference was written by Apple network infrastructure employees. And no, you wouldn't know. Not by a long shot.
@MaestroDraven I don't know why you keep challenging an actual owner's first hand account. I don't believe I've ever seen you around my computer. Blocking you now.
@MaestroDraven nah, you just look hilarious taking your hatred against Macs over someone's personal track record of something the use every day. I could say "I use my mac every day without a problem" and yet you'd pick apart that (even though you can't disprove it) simply because you hate Macs.
I thought you blocked me? Want to keep talking? Read the book first. They didn't speak out at Defcon and Black Hat just to hear themselves talk. You're basically calling bullshit on Apple's own network infrastructure employees. So.....is it Mac hate? Or your own blindness and refusal to open your eyes?
Oh, and here's the thing........you can sleep around without a condom and walk away unscathed, but you'll be one of the lucky few. It doesn't mean that the rest aren't getting infected left, right and center. Food for thought. I love how everyone who says "it never happened to me" automatically thinks it isn't true. I cross the street everyday and I haven't gotten hit yet. I guess nobody else in history has never been hit by a car, right?
Well, heh :) I wouldn't quite go that far. It's simple psychology, really. People get very defensive whenever you point out flaws in their impulse purchases. Apple claims many things, none of which are true. When proof begins to come out, most Mac customers get extremely edgy and will actively be blind to it. They don't like the thought that their more expensive machine is actually less efficient, secure and capable than the machine they just left. I understand it.
Funny enough, I would probably buy a Mac if Apple were to pull up their socks instead of relying on exterior case aesthetics to wow customers. I'm far too smart.
When Apple can button up their security so that it isn't worse than Windows, I'll take notice. When they start offering decent hardware configs and NOT price-gouging for them, I'll take notice. When they start admitting their glaring faults and defects, I'll take notice.
well, to tell you the truth, I dont like either mac or windows (pc)
here are some well known facts:
Windows have a bigger chance of crashing than any other OS on the market today due to the high number of viruses.
mac intends to crash due to critical errors that happens everytime you do something drastic (like starting any program) + they are so slow as they can be!
Linux: nearly doesn´t have any viruses + are the most stable OS out there (by my experience) and therefore linux wins all the time!
You're partially right, but only because you swung a haymaker at the facts. Windows 7 and Mac OSX are, at this time, identical in stability. Viruses do not necessarily lead to crashes, either. They are more prone to run notoriously in the background, silently. In the days of WinXP, I would agree with you. Linux may be stable, but the x64 version still has a list of bugs longer than my arm. As for Mac....yes, I agree :)
Apple and Microsoft operating systems(OS) are not perfect, as with any software. Both are capable of getting viruses on them. Windows has more viruses due to the number of users. If most of the world used Apple's OS, then it would have the most viruses. Attackers tend to go after the easier targets. Why should they go out of their way to attack less than 15% of the computer market? That is why Apple's OS has less viruses.
@frieden9911 nothing is impossible, but some things are just alot more..... harder to do.
in fact there are several small viruses out there on internet, and one of the reasons it is so hard to do any virus to mac or linux is because of the core; they both have UNIX...
Macroviruses continue to be a major threat to Macs, as are trojans, rootkits, and other forms of malware. Traditional viruses have trouble spreading in the Mac OSX environment due to the nature of the coding, but it's not impossible. Viruses are yesterday's news anyways. Malware is a multi-billion dollar criminal business, and right now, Macs are the most susceptible to it, far beyond any other operating system currently in circulation right now.
@aGruntNamedYayap Macs sell like 16 million a year now, have 24% marketshare and that is continuing to grow while Windows marketshare continues to fall.
@aGruntNamedYayap Macs sell like 16 million a year now, have 24% marketshare and that is continuing to grow while Windows marketshare continues to fall.
PC's Suck;Macs don't...Mac's are 10x as fast;PC's are 10x slower...Macs have epic graphics;PC's don't...Macs don't get viruses...PC's do...Macs may run fewer run games, but they kick the PC's butt when they do run games... And I type this all on a completely wireless, PC smashing... speed of light, incredible iCandy... MACINTOSH
Who in their right mind pays for antivirus? or installs antivirus for that matter? He/she who does on a windows deserves a fucking mac - style over substance. Anyone with half a brain would know antivirus software can't do shit when they're stupid enough to get infected.
You know why there aren't any viruses for Macs? Because no one bothers making viruses for them. Most of the world runs on Windows so you'll hit more targets that way. Someone needs to make a stupid mac virus just to show they aren't immune lol.
i said i would never get a mac i was so sure of myself. but i just got one last week and i actually like it. my pc was just getting to slow and i had virus protection too
Both "Macs" and "PCs" of any sort sold in the last six to ten years are the same general framework built from the same components manufactured by the same Chinese manufacturer: Foxconn.
When you're buying a "Mac", "Dell", "Alienware" or anything else, you're paying extra for the fancy box and label, not the quality or even different components. It's still the same Personal Computer it always was, built by the same company from the same parts.
Okay see people who bitch about things like blue screen / crashing are idiots. You only get blue screen by downloading a shit load of viruses, have you ever heard of anti-virus? I've NEVER gotten the blue screen before, and PCs only crash when you open to much crap and it runs out of memory, then the programmes just close, on a Mac when it runs out of memory, it just sits there and freezes up. PCs are for smart people, macs are for idiots who don't know how to use computers.
@WilliamAncich being divisive over wat is in essence a fucking name is kinda stupid. each has their faults. macs tend to be less open to viruses because people make less mac viruses. unfortunately people also make less mac programs as a result. if PCs are for smart people then why are the quantum physicist at CERN using a mac to do their research on the particle accelerator.
@crouchforrest "if PCs are for smart people then why are the quantum physicist at CERN using a mac to do their research on the particle accelerator."
I don't know. Why does NASA send PC's into space to do important 0-grav experimentation?
it was kina funny all together. I made my own Mac VS PC ("Mac Kills PC! The Lost Footage!")with my comedy group it's on my channel. if any of you guys liked the "Mac vs PC viruses" vid I think you'll like the one me n my group made. if ya check it out lemme know whatcha think.
PEOPLE PEOPLE!!! Stop saying' "OMG ------- is so better than ------" and stuff like that!!!! If you like PC, you like PC, if you like mac, you like mac. You do not have do battle on the internet for with is better!!! It depends on the person using them!!!!!
@TechFr You're surely right with that, but why to get something worse and more expensive? That's one of some reasons why people complain about. Sure you can get mac, but be sure you made worse decision... Worst to be honnest. Other story is with games (just like books, movies) and consoles (authors). You have to experience which games are more intersesting for each console, but I don't think someone would like computer which can do less for bigger prize...
@nikolaiprotovski The reason there is less Mac viruses is who the fuck wants to hack a Mac. Its a mac, what will you do? Corrupt their game files for WOW?
If you buy a PC from companies like dell or acer, and use their shitty hardware and software they give, OF COURSE you would get viruses and instability. Buy your own PC, buy nvidia, but if you really want ATI ( which is more unstable, but more powerful), get a big PSU. Always get a bigger PSU, and make sure there is good cable management. Buy, (not download, you need updates) anti virus programs, and I mean GOOD ones, not shitty mcafee trails.
If you used a PC for 10 years, of course you would hate using a mac.
If you used a Mac for 10 years, of course you would hate using a PC
If your using a mac for so long, you would probably wouldn't even care that PC has more games or that it is not customizable. And if you are a PC user you wouldn't care that mac is undeniably more fluid and stable, also sort of makes more sense. I prefer PC, cause I;ve been using it for 10 years so a mac feels unfamiliar and shitty.
@ccaian1 I cannot see a Mac as "undeniably more fluid and stable" when I am easily capable of crashing the iMacs at my college by simply utilizing iPhoto or when I pull a flash drive out without first "ejecting" it.
In my own experience, Macs are the most finicky, fragile, and bitchy computers I've ever crossed.
If I were to do any of the aforementioned activities above (opening programs and pulling out unejected flash drives) on my Windows PC, I'd have none of those issues.
I don't know, I always pictured PC users as big sweaty man with an overheating power-house, while a mac user sitting on a sofa wearing a turtle-neck sweater, none of the 24 gig RAM, 1000$ GPU bullshit, just a quiet productive machine.
@ccaian1 Lol. A productive machine if one is referring to word processing and slight picture editing. For those of us in the media world, especially dealing with multilayered video FX and even sound FX, a Mac is a laughably weak device.
when it comes right down to it, I picture a PC as a solid boulder in the face of a storm, and a Mac as nothing more than a paper tiger in the same situation.
The boulder will stay firm, the paper tiger will roar it's empty song and then be blown away
@AndrewDeLong having worked in a few studios, recorded in a few others, and talked to people working for the makers of protools, macs are generally the computer of choice for both audio and video FX. im not saying a PC cant do it, but if you want to speak as the collective "media world" then maybe ask the rest of us first
@crouchforrest Perhaps it would be prudent for you to note that a few studios are switching away from Macs (thanks to FCP-7 becoming ever more outdated and FCP-X sucking more than a $1000 whore) and instead are going back to AVID based PC's. Hell, Pixar uses Linuxed based PC's systems, and hell, when running something like 3DS Max or solid works, a Mac literally cannot run those on OSX.
The "collective media world" is so diverse, neither you or I can accurately speak for it.
@AndrewDeLong as i said, dont speak for the collective till you ask the rest of us. Mac users are just as valid as pc users. there is really very little difference when it comes down to standard recording.
@crouchforrest Standard recording (that is not audio) is all done externally, regardless of the computer. -_-
And what, may I ask, is "the rest of us?"
I can go to a site like Video Copilot, filled with professional and amateur editors alike, and I can assure you, a good majority of them advocate PC's over Macs, UNLESS you NEED to run a Mac only program.
@MaestroDraven I knew he had a hand in Super 8, but I didn't know he work on Fringe.
And I believe his personal choice of PC is the HP Z800, if I'm not mistaken. We use the Z400's at college, and my god are they ever something! Those things run AVID with some stunning speed.
That's my deficiency, actual recording. I don't really have experience with filming using high end cameras. I work more with existing footage in AE and Premiere Pro. I agree about Avid. Great product but I prefer Premiere.
@MaestroDraven Recording is...okay for me. But I'm only college level right now, so I still have a ways to go. I'm just waiting until I can save up enough money to buy myself a Canon 7D with a respectable lens kit.
Speaking of AE though, do you have any idea about this new "Hit Film" thing that is supposedly an alternative to AE? I've seen people like Corridor Digital use it, but do you know if it actually compares to AE in compositing?
No, I've never heard of it, but if I were to use any other compositing software, it would be Nuke, due to its ability to composit in true 3D, as opposed to AE's 2.5D. Plus, it's stupidly awesome and easy to learn. Most big production firms use Nuke.
@MaestroDraven Nuke. I've heard of it, but never used it.
Are the system requirements light on it, or would I need a full blown workstation to fully run it? Because I think I may try it out (if they trial it that is.)
From what I hear, it isn't too taxing. At least not the same as the CS5 suite can be. I've never tried it because AE satisfies my needs for now, but I would eventually like to migrate to it to learn both platforms.
I stumbled into it, quite honestly. The important thing is just to go after it. The problem with this industry is that everyone and their brother claims to be a digital artist of some sort, but few really have that special something required to differentiate. If you do, then attack the job and show the company why you deserve it. 3/4 of the time, they don't know the hell goes into production, and they want someone who is confident enough to lead.
The reason Macs are used is for image. That's it. Studios like to look hip. 3/4 of them aren't computer experts, or even intermediates for that matter. They just want to look trendy because studios are traditionally trendy places. It's a classic example of a company wasting its capital on unnecessary technology with a limited peak potential. I've worked in plenty of studios as well, and I've seen far less Macs than you might think.
@MaestroDraven to assume that the only reason someone buys a mac is for image is slightly retarded. not to be rude, but that is ridiculous. Also last time i checked, to be a studio engineer, being a computer expert wasnt a requirement. i dont fully understand everything about computers, but i know how to properly record music, and i know the programs i use on mac better than the ones on PC therefore i use a mac. just because macs are used by hipsters doesnt mean mac users are all hipsters
Perhaps not. But Mac is about image first, and you can't deny that. Apple makes that abundantly clear, as does the (rather disturbing) religious following they seem to have over their followers. In my experience, studios are interested in the image they project. Aside from image, buying a Mac makes absolutely no logistical sense as PCs do everything a Mac does, for a cheaper cost, better hardware, better security, and a wider array of programs.
Case in point: Final Cut Pro and Logic 9. They're fine programs....but they're bested by Avid, Premiere Pro, and ProTools. Yes, you can run Premiere and ProTools on a Mac but......when you compile my previous comment about the deficiencies of the Mac platform, why bother? Why pay so much more money for a system that just isn't pulling its weight from security and performance standpoints. It's a quintessential waste of cash.
@MaestroDraven To be fair on the security standpoint, be it Mac or PC, a simple rule of thumb with ANY workstation in the media editing world is: do not connect it to the internet. Do not connect it to anything but a render farm, to be honest.
When it comes to editing, this is rule #1 for any system.
Granted, Macs still have horrendous security, but in a professional editing environment, that *should be* a non-issue. Regardless of platform.
@MaestroDraven i use protools on my mac i wouldnt even think about using logic, and yes avid is great, but my mac used as a recording computer, and a personal computer for school and personal use, has lasted longer than any computer ive had of equal value. im not arguing against pcs im arguing that mac users shouldnt be laughed at
I agree! More so than you might think. And I don't bash Apple from a quality standpoint, despite the fact that they are NO better than anyone else. They sell less systems, so you'll hear of less complaints. Simple math. But...paying that much is unjustifiable in my eyes. Even the baseline 27" iMac is actually a great deal...until you start customizing it, at which point Apple bends you over the barrel on prices. It's an insult.
In an age where the industry's standard hardware configs consist of 8GB of RAM, GTX580 cards and hexcore CPUs, Apple is hanging back with mid-range quad-cores, mobile-based video cards (an absolute travesty), and 4GB RAM configurations......using Hynix RAM, no less! When you start examining why, it becomes clear. Apple is minimizing costs while inflating price tags. Apple cares about mass profit...not about you. Not by a long shot.
@crouchforrest - dude, stop spending money on shit you don`t need. most people using Mac (or any other Apple product to be honest) are doing it just to "look cool" and to "LOOK" professional. and i know a lot of studios (both, video and music) which are really fine using PC`s which have much better hardware and are half the price of a Mac.
@themeanmachine84 rule number one, rectangles are not squares. u have your logic backwards. Most people who try to look cool buy macs. not most people who buy macs are trying to look cool. Many studios use macs as the main processing and recording computer. yes quite a few studios use PCs but just as many use macs, to say its to "look cool" is asinine and derogatory towards mac users. im a mac because im used to them. i could go pc, but then id have to buy another computer
Perhaps.....with a cost increase of $700 and a poor lifespan, mediocre performance and a need to rely on its mortal enemy for full software compatibility.
People say macs are good, Oh. Buy 2000$ mac and compare it to your 500$ pc.. Sure its better because it wont crash etc?
But compare your 2000$ mac to your 1500$ self-appointed PC (because you got cheap and good components that way and it is quite easy to build it) and you will use your mac as a mouse pad after that is done.
@torak772 "mac rules they never get viruses on them."
You're either lying, or are horribly misinformed. Macs have FEWER viruses, but they still exist. And they are usually MUCH more devastating to a Mac. My lab teacher, last year, got a Virus on her Macbook. She ended up having to reformat her entire HDD (at the advice of an Apple "Genius") because there was no effective way of removing it.
In Windows, there are MANY effective ways to protects from, & remove a virus, with ease.
Mac viruses are currently growing at a rate of 10% per month, and that's with a 6% worldwide market share. Pwn2Own showed everyone just how easy it is to take advantage of a Mac, and the news has spread like wildfire.
@eateroftheflame That won't happen. Why? Because Macs are currently non-customizable, thus losing that chunk of the market, they only work with ATI cards, and about two very expensive Nvidia cards (Quadros), thus losing most of the Nvidia (thus gaming and a good piece of the graphics) market, and they still have major compatibility issues with peripherals, whereas Windows automatically works with 90%+ of the stuff out there.
I don't think the hackers have any interest in hacking your stupid twitter account and stealing your faggot art essays from your faggot mac. Everything is run on pc, from big businesses to the government.
windows is more 'popular' then mac's..so they are a bigger target for people who which to make viruses.. Linux however is updated nearly everyday which make them very safe
Reiterating a previous point. Hackers target pc's not because of their security flaws, but because everyone has one. MAC's have such a low base of users in comparison to PC's that there are less attacks. It's really simple.
The same argument can be used for the myth of Mac build quality, too. Much like the difference in homicide rates between Canada and the U.S., Mac quality APPEARS better because for every Mac sold, 100 PCs are sold. Naturally you will see more reports of errors and problems on the PC end. Apple uses this to their advantage with deceptive advertising schemes. In truth, the ratio of technical issues is identical between both platforms.
Oh well ps smarty pants that is not an option on the iPad but I will pull out my Mac book for u next time and honestly you eat Tyson chicken which is being mass produced which is really more disgusting than any computer so I blame u
@timsmashuhoe Who ever mentioned Tyson chicken? If you really want to help save the world, then the least you can do is go out and volunteer... But that would include real work, and I guess that's too hard for you.
@timsmashuhoe You honestly think all Macs are made of recycled material? Even though Apple says that MINI is completely recycled, there is no way of knowing considering the fact that their all made in China. For all we know, it could be one of the "dirtiest" computers to make. And on the green note, they only measured the computer itself, without a monitor printer, any external modem, you know stuff people use/need.
PS, if you press reply next to the comment, people will actually get it
Who cares if a Mac gets a virus or not it's still bad ass compared to a pc after using the track pad I could never use a pc mouse pad on laptops and macs look cool and save the world n shit
This is a stupid myth, macs crash and get viruses also. The myth was distributed by mac fanboys to show how much superior their overpriced computer is.
No, it wasn't. That was Apple's doing. It starts and ends with Apple. Curiously enough, Apple's own network infrastructure employees have spoken out about Mac security exploits at Defcon and Black Hat, and even wrote a corporate-level book regarding the threats to OSX in the forms of viruses, malware, rootkits and hack attacks.
Im a pc user and my friend is a mac user. When i was using my laptop and he was using his macbook, we had the usuall pc vs mac argument. One day my pc crashes at school, he says "thats usuall, i mean it is a pc." the next day, his macbook crashed and he wondered why. It dosen't matter if u get an anti-virus program for a pc or buy a mac thats "suppose" to get no virus, because in the end, all computers will crash and have problems at one point. Not to mention there is no such thing as "secure s
I've yet to experience the phenomenon of a virus on my PC. However it makes sense that if someone where to make malicious software they would target the system with the largest user base. Silly Mac fags.. :l
The funny thing is that people who hates just have either Mac or PC. So you cant tell whats wrong and not wrong about the other one. I prefer Mac, but I dont mind using a PC.
Is that why the book "Enterprise Mac Security: OSX Snow Leopard" was written? You might want to give that a read if you think Macs are too "mature" to get viruses. You'll be shocked. While you're at it, please tell me what a kernel panic is.
Are you certain? CNET reported equal stability in both platforms, meaning if they're going to crash, they're going to crash at the same rate. I've been a Windows 7 user for over 2 years now and it's been 100% stable without so much as a bump. As for viruses, McAfee just reported that Mac viruses are increasing at a rate of 10% per MONTH. This, coupled with Apple's inherent lack of security means that you're going to see viruses at a rate MUCH worse than you ever did with Windows.
Correct, except for the "more often" part. It all depends how you've maintained your OS. A properly maintained Windows installation will only suffer BSODs under specific hardware-related circumstances such as faulty RAM or hard drive issues. A Mac kernel panic is unpredictable and can happen for any reason. User upkeep plays no part.
@MaestroDraven Yes I guess your right but kernel panics symbolize that there was a problem. And the computer gives you the error report after you've restarted on Macs.
No argument there. They're the same thing, just executed differently. Point is, they can happen equally on both machines depending on what the user has done, or not done.
the meaning of PC has changed to refer to Windows OSs, when PC is a computer than one can personally own, therefore, Mac, in of it's self, is a PC, and if PC stands for Personal Crap, than wouldn't that make Mac's personal crap too?
@bnbedits No, I got a mac because adobe systems run better on Mac, and it helps with the graphic design work I do. Plus, they are much cheaper than a PC with the same components the Mac would have.
@ITSbigwillystyle I'm afraid you're incorrect there. Mac's cost around $700-$1000 more than PC's with equal or better quality components. The reason for this is because are made with various components from different companies. This causes competition between companies for a lower price. With macs, however, all of the components are made by Apple. This means that they control the entire market for what goes into their computers. Therefore they raise the price by a lot. This is not... (continued)
@ggisedd lol Apple does not make ANY of the components use in their computers. So let me get this straight, according to you, Apple runs AMD and Intel? Holy shit. That's news to me!
@Krieger91 Yes, it seems I was incorrect on that point (as I said, I've never owned a Mac before). However, that was just a small part of a much larger statement, and I still stand behind that statement. Macs are generally $700 - $1000 more expensive than PC's (my actual point). So as for hardware, PC's are superior. As far as OS is concerned, I prefer Windows, but I do, however, have the ability to use all three major operating systems.
@ITSbigwillystyle however, necessarily a bad thing. It means that you probably get better customer support (I wouldn't know because I've never owned a Mac of my own). However with a Mac, you lack the ability to upgrade your components as technology advances. I personally prefer PC's, but I have no problem using Mac's. As for Adobe products running better on a Mac, I haven't really noticed a difference (though you may be right).
@ITSbigwillystyle You can't do graphic design on average system specs, I hope you realize this.
Adobe is a universal program, they both run equally well on both platforms, there is no evidence of one running better than another
In fact Flash would actually run better on a PC since most things on the internet are still either Java or Flash written which are mostly designed on and for PC's purely because of the universality they have
@KyuubiNaruto1337XD I believe the mac to be more user-friendly than a windows pc though (well, when it comes to photo editing, graphic design, etc.). I've used photoshop on both, and I have to say I enjoy it more so on a Mac. I do not know why, but it seems much faster to me. If Macs were systems comparable or even surpassed by pcs, then software companies would quit making software for Mac ALONG with PC. But it's quite the contrary, more companies are starting to make Mac software.
@ITSbigwillystyle lets see, if you're refering to Photoshop, I think thats a Mac proprietary software
Also the "they're making more software for macs" is a completely underfunded statistic, seeing as the proportion of home mac users to pc's is still 9-1 according to Computer Weekly
Macs are inherently less powerful. Their technology tree tops out long before the PC's does. They cost significantly more. They possess the least amount of security and are the most vulnerable to rootkits, viruses and hacks. They require Windows to achieve proper versatility and software compatibility. Their upgrade options are limited. The prices on those upgrade options are ridiculous. So...how are they better?
@MaestroDraven Macs rarely get viruses and most everyone i know that has a pc has a virus(i know they can be avoided easilly but still) and there are tons of free updates that are very frequent. The only updates that cost any amount of money are ''os'' updates which come once every year or so and they only dont cost alot at all.(the most recent one being osx lion wich costs $30 and comes pre installed on all the new macs).
That may be, but Macs are more susceptible to them, that's the issue. Having an obscure market share is not the best excuse for having few viruses. The book "Enterprise Mac Security: OSX Snow Leopard" was written by Apple infrastructure employees who have openly outed the very bad security of Macs, and the threat of exploitation. Apple doesn't have a good track record of patching these vulnerabilities. One Safari bug took them 8 months to plug. Not good.
@whiskerjuice The problem with (relatively) few Mac viruses is that Macs are not inherently capable of managing a virus if it does infect the Machine. This is usually because a user will feel that the natural "security" that a Mac offers (tough penetration) is enough, and they wont install an AV. Thing is, all Macs have is tough penetration. They lack the ability to detect, quarantine, and effectively REMOVE a Virus, something Windows users are more than adept at.
OS X contains powerful defenses to help keep your Mac safe from PC viruses and other malware without the hassle of constant alerts and sweeps. And if you misplace your Mac, built-in features in OS X Lion can help you find it and protect your data. BIIITCH!
valonw 11 hours ago 5
@valonw defender virus anyone?
blibblab1001 1 hour ago
@valonw what defenses. The same defenses that are worse than what comes with Windows? The ones that are easier to hack than any other modern OS? Where hackers can gain complete control over the computer in a matter of seconds? Yeah, that really sounds state of the art
wilhamlin 34 minutes ago
My Mac just froze and crashed!!!! D: I should have gone with a PC!!!!!! WOE IS ME! WOE IS ME!
emptyhate 18 hours ago
I have a Mac. I've NEVER gotten a virus. You want to challenge a first-hand owner's account? Be my guest.
raran44 3 days ago
@raran44 Wow! I'm a getting a mac on saturday prabably!
megusta535 3 days ago
@raran44 thats because only six-year old girls would spend the time to make a virus for a mac :/
TehMegaNoobZor 3 days ago
@raran44
And how, pray tell, do you know that? Have you actually ran a virus checker to make sure? That's like saying, "I don't have cancer, but I've NEVER been to the doctor to find out!"
Here's a little tip: malware, trojans, macroviruses and rootkits are the #1 threats to the Mac OSX platform. 3/4 of them don't require ROOT access to work, and all of them can be running silently, right under your nose, phishing your info and logging your keystrokes without you being the wiser.
MaestroDraven 3 days ago
@MaestroDraven until I started college, i was on PCs. I switched over to accomodate my program. While on PCs, i got viruses right, left, and centre. They stalled the computer, it crashed, froze, etc.
None of the above has EVER occurred with my Mac.
I think I'd recognize a virus if there was one present.
raran44 3 days ago
@raran44
I suggest you read "Enterprise Mac Security: OSX Snow Leopard" to learn just how wrong you truly are. You'll learn first-hand about the major threats that Macs face. Crashing is far less dangerous than having your keystrokes logged and your personal info be stolen, or your Mac controlled remotely without your knowledge.
Oh, and the book I reference was written by Apple network infrastructure employees. And no, you wouldn't know. Not by a long shot.
MaestroDraven 3 days ago
@MaestroDraven I don't know why you keep challenging an actual owner's first hand account. I don't believe I've ever seen you around my computer. Blocking you now.
raran44 2 days ago
@raran44
So you expect me to believe random conjecture from a YouTube account holder over a book written by actual industry professionals working for Apple?
Are you serious?
MaestroDraven 2 days ago
@MaestroDraven nah, you just look hilarious taking your hatred against Macs over someone's personal track record of something the use every day. I could say "I use my mac every day without a problem" and yet you'd pick apart that (even though you can't disprove it) simply because you hate Macs.
raran44 2 days ago
@raran44
I thought you blocked me? Want to keep talking? Read the book first. They didn't speak out at Defcon and Black Hat just to hear themselves talk. You're basically calling bullshit on Apple's own network infrastructure employees. So.....is it Mac hate? Or your own blindness and refusal to open your eyes?
The latter. :)
MaestroDraven 2 days ago
@raran44
Oh, and here's the thing........you can sleep around without a condom and walk away unscathed, but you'll be one of the lucky few. It doesn't mean that the rest aren't getting infected left, right and center. Food for thought. I love how everyone who says "it never happened to me" automatically thinks it isn't true. I cross the street everyday and I haven't gotten hit yet. I guess nobody else in history has never been hit by a car, right?
Come on man, think.
MaestroDraven 2 days ago
@MaestroDraven
good analogies dude and u are 100% right but stupid fucks like raran44 dont get it so do not waste your time trying to explain
TheDarkMikado 2 days ago
@TheDarkMikado
Well, heh :) I wouldn't quite go that far. It's simple psychology, really. People get very defensive whenever you point out flaws in their impulse purchases. Apple claims many things, none of which are true. When proof begins to come out, most Mac customers get extremely edgy and will actively be blind to it. They don't like the thought that their more expensive machine is actually less efficient, secure and capable than the machine they just left. I understand it.
MaestroDraven 2 days ago
@TheDarkMikado
Funny enough, I would probably buy a Mac if Apple were to pull up their socks instead of relying on exterior case aesthetics to wow customers. I'm far too smart.
When Apple can button up their security so that it isn't worse than Windows, I'll take notice. When they start offering decent hardware configs and NOT price-gouging for them, I'll take notice. When they start admitting their glaring faults and defects, I'll take notice.
So far, it's a triple-loss on all 3.
MaestroDraven 2 days ago
i run linux
wafflez59 3 days ago
Cuz no one wants to hack into a mac computer.
XXDarkShadow79XX 6 days ago
@XXDarkShadow79XX due i don't want people to insult pc, i will hack it.
5up3rp3rs0n 6 days ago
Its called anti virus
Lufty25 1 week ago
Then PC Dies That Means Blue Screen of Death
WarnerBros556 1 week ago
well, to tell you the truth, I dont like either mac or windows (pc)
here are some well known facts:
Windows have a bigger chance of crashing than any other OS on the market today due to the high number of viruses.
mac intends to crash due to critical errors that happens everytime you do something drastic (like starting any program) + they are so slow as they can be!
Linux: nearly doesn´t have any viruses + are the most stable OS out there (by my experience) and therefore linux wins all the time!
crankylucifer 2 weeks ago
@crankylucifer
You're partially right, but only because you swung a haymaker at the facts. Windows 7 and Mac OSX are, at this time, identical in stability. Viruses do not necessarily lead to crashes, either. They are more prone to run notoriously in the background, silently. In the days of WinXP, I would agree with you. Linux may be stable, but the x64 version still has a list of bugs longer than my arm. As for Mac....yes, I agree :)
MaestroDraven 1 week ago
@MaestroDraven I Have windows xp .Better then vista .Worse then win7 .
MegaSonicKing 1 week ago
Apple and Microsoft operating systems(OS) are not perfect, as with any software. Both are capable of getting viruses on them. Windows has more viruses due to the number of users. If most of the world used Apple's OS, then it would have the most viruses. Attackers tend to go after the easier targets. Why should they go out of their way to attack less than 15% of the computer market? That is why Apple's OS has less viruses.
eternitydark 2 weeks ago
Apple computers ARE PCs. PC stands for Personal Computer, as in computers intended for use by individuals.
eternitydark 2 weeks ago
why most viruses are for pc? because mac users cant make viruses
frieden9911 2 weeks ago
@frieden9911 nothing is impossible, but some things are just alot more..... harder to do.
in fact there are several small viruses out there on internet, and one of the reasons it is so hard to do any virus to mac or linux is because of the core; they both have UNIX...
crankylucifer 2 weeks ago
@crankylucifer
Macroviruses continue to be a major threat to Macs, as are trojans, rootkits, and other forms of malware. Traditional viruses have trouble spreading in the Mac OSX environment due to the nature of the coding, but it's not impossible. Viruses are yesterday's news anyways. Malware is a multi-billion dollar criminal business, and right now, Macs are the most susceptible to it, far beyond any other operating system currently in circulation right now.
MaestroDraven 1 week ago
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@aGruntNamedYayap Macs sell like 16 million a year now, have 24% marketshare and that is continuing to grow while Windows marketshare continues to fall.
hoboteacher 2 weeks ago
@aGruntNamedYayap Macs sell like 16 million a year now, have 24% marketshare and that is continuing to grow while Windows marketshare continues to fall.
hoboteacher 2 weeks ago
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PC's Suck;Macs don't...Mac's are 10x as fast;PC's are 10x slower...Macs have epic graphics;PC's don't...Macs don't get viruses...PC's do...Macs may run fewer run games, but they kick the PC's butt when they do run games... And I type this all on a completely wireless, PC smashing... speed of light, incredible iCandy... MACINTOSH
CJ9ELITE 2 weeks ago
Mac and PC ( Windows and other proprietary OS) have too restricted licenses. Vote for Open Software, Free Soft and Open Source Soft ==> FREEDOM
qwanom 2 weeks ago
mac run on a greater operating system nough said
johnomanmo 2 weeks ago
@johnomanmo You misspelled your comment: "mac run on a greater failure OS nuff said" Get it right fanboy!
LordAugastus 2 weeks ago
0:06 Gesundheit? Zomg...
lin545 3 weeks ago
Who in their right mind pays for antivirus? or installs antivirus for that matter? He/she who does on a windows deserves a fucking mac - style over substance. Anyone with half a brain would know antivirus software can't do shit when they're stupid enough to get infected.
mykebulvai 3 weeks ago
You know why there aren't any viruses for Macs? Because no one bothers making viruses for them. Most of the world runs on Windows so you'll hit more targets that way. Someone needs to make a stupid mac virus just to show they aren't immune lol.
RectalDiscourse 3 weeks ago
Mac doesent get something WHO THE F USES THE WINDOWS DEFENDER get nod32 or comodo, comodo is free but nod32 is better
ICanHazCheezeBurger5 3 weeks ago
i said i would never get a mac i was so sure of myself. but i just got one last week and i actually like it. my pc was just getting to slow and i had virus protection too
fleurgi 3 weeks ago
How the commercial should have gone:
Mac: For PCs, not Macs.
PC: No, Macs had about 40 which hit harder than most of the PC viruses.
They both died from viruses because they torrent everything from shady websites.
The End.
McSpizzy 3 weeks ago
Both "Macs" and "PCs" of any sort sold in the last six to ten years are the same general framework built from the same components manufactured by the same Chinese manufacturer: Foxconn.
When you're buying a "Mac", "Dell", "Alienware" or anything else, you're paying extra for the fancy box and label, not the quality or even different components. It's still the same Personal Computer it always was, built by the same company from the same parts.
Consider it when buying your next rig.
SexyMelon 3 weeks ago
Okay see people who bitch about things like blue screen / crashing are idiots. You only get blue screen by downloading a shit load of viruses, have you ever heard of anti-virus? I've NEVER gotten the blue screen before, and PCs only crash when you open to much crap and it runs out of memory, then the programmes just close, on a Mac when it runs out of memory, it just sits there and freezes up. PCs are for smart people, macs are for idiots who don't know how to use computers.
WilliamAncich 3 weeks ago
@WilliamAncich being divisive over wat is in essence a fucking name is kinda stupid. each has their faults. macs tend to be less open to viruses because people make less mac viruses. unfortunately people also make less mac programs as a result. if PCs are for smart people then why are the quantum physicist at CERN using a mac to do their research on the particle accelerator.
crouchforrest 3 weeks ago
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@crouchforrest "if PCs are for smart people then why are the quantum physicist at CERN using a mac to do their research on the particle accelerator."
I don't know. Why does NASA send PC's into space to do important 0-grav experimentation?
AndrewDeLong 3 weeks ago
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THERE IS THE SAME CHANCE FOR VIRUSES IF PEOPLE SAY THAT MACS DON'T GET VIRUSES THEY ARE A ****ING LIRE
noodlejac 4 weeks ago
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noodlejac 4 weeks ago
it was kina funny all together. I made my own Mac VS PC ("Mac Kills PC! The Lost Footage!")with my comedy group it's on my channel. if any of you guys liked the "Mac vs PC viruses" vid I think you'll like the one me n my group made. if ya check it out lemme know whatcha think.
DeathbySquirrelProdt 1 month ago
They should do a PC vs Mac on crashing and freezing
PC; Hang on, we will be fix in like a few seconds
Mac; Hang on, I just have to explode..
tanxxor 1 month ago
@jking6155 You can still keylog your victims and steal acounts on a mac.
and you can still use infected mac's for DDosing or server hosting. I dont see much difference compared to windows.
nikolaiprotovski 1 month ago
PEOPLE PEOPLE!!! Stop saying' "OMG ------- is so better than ------" and stuff like that!!!! If you like PC, you like PC, if you like mac, you like mac. You do not have do battle on the internet for with is better!!! It depends on the person using them!!!!!
TechFr 1 month ago
@TechFr You're surely right with that, but why to get something worse and more expensive? That's one of some reasons why people complain about. Sure you can get mac, but be sure you made worse decision... Worst to be honnest. Other story is with games (just like books, movies) and consoles (authors). You have to experience which games are more intersesting for each console, but I don't think someone would like computer which can do less for bigger prize...
DarkPatro56 2 weeks ago
Vote here for PC.
TheSawJigsaw 1 month ago 65
lol that was funny, I got to crash (falls back) thump! haha XD
CODMW3epiczone 1 month ago
Love how they say PCs are susceptible to x number of viruses.
Deception and lies. Should say "windows PCs", not PCs.
A linux box is a PC and it is more secure and, much cheaper, versatile, and more virus safe, than any Mac, or Windows system.
Rampant7990 1 month ago
Isn't the guy on the right from one of the newer die hards, he's bruce willis' assistant right?
gta4rocksofsocks 1 month ago
you guys do know that there are viruses for mac?
I even made a botnet to infect macs
so far I have 5629 infected macs.
182678 infected pc's
Its harder to infect macs because im unable to make a worm.
but really the mac anti-virus sucks. I dont even need to encrypt my spyware :D
so it really does not matter what you get (either way you will get infected)
nothing odd will happen to your Pc or mac However the connection will lag since I using you for spamming.
nikolaiprotovski 1 month ago
@nikolaiprotovski The reason there is less Mac viruses is who the fuck wants to hack a Mac. Its a mac, what will you do? Corrupt their game files for WOW?
jking6155 1 month ago
If you buy a PC from companies like dell or acer, and use their shitty hardware and software they give, OF COURSE you would get viruses and instability. Buy your own PC, buy nvidia, but if you really want ATI ( which is more unstable, but more powerful), get a big PSU. Always get a bigger PSU, and make sure there is good cable management. Buy, (not download, you need updates) anti virus programs, and I mean GOOD ones, not shitty mcafee trails.
ccaian1 1 month ago
I love the flame wars
If you used a PC for 10 years, of course you would hate using a mac.
If you used a Mac for 10 years, of course you would hate using a PC
If your using a mac for so long, you would probably wouldn't even care that PC has more games or that it is not customizable. And if you are a PC user you wouldn't care that mac is undeniably more fluid and stable, also sort of makes more sense. I prefer PC, cause I;ve been using it for 10 years so a mac feels unfamiliar and shitty.
ccaian1 1 month ago
@ccaian1 I cannot see a Mac as "undeniably more fluid and stable" when I am easily capable of crashing the iMacs at my college by simply utilizing iPhoto or when I pull a flash drive out without first "ejecting" it.
In my own experience, Macs are the most finicky, fragile, and bitchy computers I've ever crossed.
If I were to do any of the aforementioned activities above (opening programs and pulling out unejected flash drives) on my Windows PC, I'd have none of those issues.
AndrewDeLong 1 month ago 6
@AndrewDeLong
I don't know, I always pictured PC users as big sweaty man with an overheating power-house, while a mac user sitting on a sofa wearing a turtle-neck sweater, none of the 24 gig RAM, 1000$ GPU bullshit, just a quiet productive machine.
ccaian1 1 month ago
@ccaian1 Lol. A productive machine if one is referring to word processing and slight picture editing. For those of us in the media world, especially dealing with multilayered video FX and even sound FX, a Mac is a laughably weak device.
when it comes right down to it, I picture a PC as a solid boulder in the face of a storm, and a Mac as nothing more than a paper tiger in the same situation.
The boulder will stay firm, the paper tiger will roar it's empty song and then be blown away
AndrewDeLong 1 month ago
@AndrewDeLong having worked in a few studios, recorded in a few others, and talked to people working for the makers of protools, macs are generally the computer of choice for both audio and video FX. im not saying a PC cant do it, but if you want to speak as the collective "media world" then maybe ask the rest of us first
crouchforrest 3 weeks ago
@crouchforrest Perhaps it would be prudent for you to note that a few studios are switching away from Macs (thanks to FCP-7 becoming ever more outdated and FCP-X sucking more than a $1000 whore) and instead are going back to AVID based PC's. Hell, Pixar uses Linuxed based PC's systems, and hell, when running something like 3DS Max or solid works, a Mac literally cannot run those on OSX.
The "collective media world" is so diverse, neither you or I can accurately speak for it.
AndrewDeLong 3 weeks ago
@AndrewDeLong as i said, dont speak for the collective till you ask the rest of us. Mac users are just as valid as pc users. there is really very little difference when it comes down to standard recording.
crouchforrest 3 weeks ago
@crouchforrest Standard recording (that is not audio) is all done externally, regardless of the computer. -_-
And what, may I ask, is "the rest of us?"
I can go to a site like Video Copilot, filled with professional and amateur editors alike, and I can assure you, a good majority of them advocate PC's over Macs, UNLESS you NEED to run a Mac only program.
The "rest of us" is very vague at best. O_o
AndrewDeLong 3 weeks ago
@AndrewDeLong
Good point. Andrew Kramer uses PCs, and he's worked on everything from Super 8 to Fringe.
MaestroDraven 3 weeks ago
@MaestroDraven I knew he had a hand in Super 8, but I didn't know he work on Fringe.
And I believe his personal choice of PC is the HP Z800, if I'm not mistaken. We use the Z400's at college, and my god are they ever something! Those things run AVID with some stunning speed.
I still prefer Premiere Pro CS5.5 though.
AndrewDeLong 3 weeks ago
@AndrewDeLong *worked* on fringe.
AndrewDeLong 3 weeks ago
@AndrewDeLong
That's my deficiency, actual recording. I don't really have experience with filming using high end cameras. I work more with existing footage in AE and Premiere Pro. I agree about Avid. Great product but I prefer Premiere.
MaestroDraven 3 weeks ago
@MaestroDraven Recording is...okay for me. But I'm only college level right now, so I still have a ways to go. I'm just waiting until I can save up enough money to buy myself a Canon 7D with a respectable lens kit.
Speaking of AE though, do you have any idea about this new "Hit Film" thing that is supposedly an alternative to AE? I've seen people like Corridor Digital use it, but do you know if it actually compares to AE in compositing?
AndrewDeLong 3 weeks ago
@AndrewDeLong
No, I've never heard of it, but if I were to use any other compositing software, it would be Nuke, due to its ability to composit in true 3D, as opposed to AE's 2.5D. Plus, it's stupidly awesome and easy to learn. Most big production firms use Nuke.
MaestroDraven 3 weeks ago
@MaestroDraven Nuke. I've heard of it, but never used it.
Are the system requirements light on it, or would I need a full blown workstation to fully run it? Because I think I may try it out (if they trial it that is.)
AndrewDeLong 3 weeks ago
@AndrewDeLong
From what I hear, it isn't too taxing. At least not the same as the CS5 suite can be. I've never tried it because AE satisfies my needs for now, but I would eventually like to migrate to it to learn both platforms.
MaestroDraven 3 weeks ago
@MaestroDraven I just checked the Foundry's website. They offer Nuke as a 15 day free trial, as a rental (per quarter) or for total sale at $5000.
If you migrate to it, prepare to see a crying wallet. XD
AndrewDeLong 3 weeks ago
@AndrewDeLong
I know :) But in my line of work, the company foots the bill for that stuff. I consider it a perk. Haha!
MaestroDraven 3 weeks ago
@MaestroDraven Your line of work is what I'm trying to get into. =D
AndrewDeLong 3 weeks ago
@AndrewDeLong
I stumbled into it, quite honestly. The important thing is just to go after it. The problem with this industry is that everyone and their brother claims to be a digital artist of some sort, but few really have that special something required to differentiate. If you do, then attack the job and show the company why you deserve it. 3/4 of the time, they don't know the hell goes into production, and they want someone who is confident enough to lead.
MaestroDraven 3 weeks ago
@crouchforrest
The reason Macs are used is for image. That's it. Studios like to look hip. 3/4 of them aren't computer experts, or even intermediates for that matter. They just want to look trendy because studios are traditionally trendy places. It's a classic example of a company wasting its capital on unnecessary technology with a limited peak potential. I've worked in plenty of studios as well, and I've seen far less Macs than you might think.
MaestroDraven 3 weeks ago
@MaestroDraven to assume that the only reason someone buys a mac is for image is slightly retarded. not to be rude, but that is ridiculous. Also last time i checked, to be a studio engineer, being a computer expert wasnt a requirement. i dont fully understand everything about computers, but i know how to properly record music, and i know the programs i use on mac better than the ones on PC therefore i use a mac. just because macs are used by hipsters doesnt mean mac users are all hipsters
crouchforrest 3 weeks ago
@crouchforrest
Perhaps not. But Mac is about image first, and you can't deny that. Apple makes that abundantly clear, as does the (rather disturbing) religious following they seem to have over their followers. In my experience, studios are interested in the image they project. Aside from image, buying a Mac makes absolutely no logistical sense as PCs do everything a Mac does, for a cheaper cost, better hardware, better security, and a wider array of programs.
MaestroDraven 3 weeks ago
@crouchforrest
Case in point: Final Cut Pro and Logic 9. They're fine programs....but they're bested by Avid, Premiere Pro, and ProTools. Yes, you can run Premiere and ProTools on a Mac but......when you compile my previous comment about the deficiencies of the Mac platform, why bother? Why pay so much more money for a system that just isn't pulling its weight from security and performance standpoints. It's a quintessential waste of cash.
MaestroDraven 3 weeks ago
@MaestroDraven To be fair on the security standpoint, be it Mac or PC, a simple rule of thumb with ANY workstation in the media editing world is: do not connect it to the internet. Do not connect it to anything but a render farm, to be honest.
When it comes to editing, this is rule #1 for any system.
Granted, Macs still have horrendous security, but in a professional editing environment, that *should be* a non-issue. Regardless of platform.
It should be.
AndrewDeLong 3 weeks ago
@MaestroDraven i use protools on my mac i wouldnt even think about using logic, and yes avid is great, but my mac used as a recording computer, and a personal computer for school and personal use, has lasted longer than any computer ive had of equal value. im not arguing against pcs im arguing that mac users shouldnt be laughed at
crouchforrest 3 weeks ago
@crouchforrest
I agree! More so than you might think. And I don't bash Apple from a quality standpoint, despite the fact that they are NO better than anyone else. They sell less systems, so you'll hear of less complaints. Simple math. But...paying that much is unjustifiable in my eyes. Even the baseline 27" iMac is actually a great deal...until you start customizing it, at which point Apple bends you over the barrel on prices. It's an insult.
MaestroDraven 3 weeks ago
@crouchforrest
In an age where the industry's standard hardware configs consist of 8GB of RAM, GTX580 cards and hexcore CPUs, Apple is hanging back with mid-range quad-cores, mobile-based video cards (an absolute travesty), and 4GB RAM configurations......using Hynix RAM, no less! When you start examining why, it becomes clear. Apple is minimizing costs while inflating price tags. Apple cares about mass profit...not about you. Not by a long shot.
MaestroDraven 3 weeks ago
@crouchforrest - dude, stop spending money on shit you don`t need. most people using Mac (or any other Apple product to be honest) are doing it just to "look cool" and to "LOOK" professional. and i know a lot of studios (both, video and music) which are really fine using PC`s which have much better hardware and are half the price of a Mac.
themeanmachine84 3 weeks ago
@themeanmachine84 rule number one, rectangles are not squares. u have your logic backwards. Most people who try to look cool buy macs. not most people who buy macs are trying to look cool. Many studios use macs as the main processing and recording computer. yes quite a few studios use PCs but just as many use macs, to say its to "look cool" is asinine and derogatory towards mac users. im a mac because im used to them. i could go pc, but then id have to buy another computer
crouchforrest 3 weeks ago
@ccaian1
Perhaps.....with a cost increase of $700 and a poor lifespan, mediocre performance and a need to rely on its mortal enemy for full software compatibility.
MaestroDraven 1 month ago
Yeah, only stupid people get viruses
InsanityOnABunFilms 1 month ago
People say macs are good, Oh. Buy 2000$ mac and compare it to your 500$ pc.. Sure its better because it wont crash etc?
But compare your 2000$ mac to your 1500$ self-appointed PC (because you got cheap and good components that way and it is quite easy to build it) and you will use your mac as a mouse pad after that is done.
onouh 1 month ago
mac rules they never get viruses on them.
torak772 1 month ago
@torak772
Read the book "Enterprise Mac Security: OSX Snow Leopard" to learn just how wrong you are.
MaestroDraven 1 month ago
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@torak772 "mac rules they never get viruses on them."
You're either lying, or are horribly misinformed. Macs have FEWER viruses, but they still exist. And they are usually MUCH more devastating to a Mac. My lab teacher, last year, got a Virus on her Macbook. She ended up having to reformat her entire HDD (at the advice of an Apple "Genius") because there was no effective way of removing it.
In Windows, there are MANY effective ways to protects from, & remove a virus, with ease.
AndrewDeLong 1 month ago
@torak772 You don't know jack. If someone wants in to your mac the are getting in.
Rampant7990 1 month ago
If Macs ever get the biggest market share the number of viruses will sky-rocket
eateroftheflame 1 month ago
@eateroftheflame
Mac viruses are currently growing at a rate of 10% per month, and that's with a 6% worldwide market share. Pwn2Own showed everyone just how easy it is to take advantage of a Mac, and the news has spread like wildfire.
MaestroDraven 1 month ago
@eateroftheflame That won't happen. Why? Because Macs are currently non-customizable, thus losing that chunk of the market, they only work with ATI cards, and about two very expensive Nvidia cards (Quadros), thus losing most of the Nvidia (thus gaming and a good piece of the graphics) market, and they still have major compatibility issues with peripherals, whereas Windows automatically works with 90%+ of the stuff out there.
I severely doubt Macs with get to more than 20%.
AndrewDeLong 1 month ago
I don't think the hackers have any interest in hacking your stupid twitter account and stealing your faggot art essays from your faggot mac. Everything is run on pc, from big businesses to the government.
CrazyWoWGamer 1 month ago
windows is more 'popular' then mac's..so they are a bigger target for people who which to make viruses.. Linux however is updated nearly everyday which make them very safe
JamesiProductions 1 month ago 19
@JamesiProductions Windows has updates frequently, just no one checks them.
MadHornetSeries 1 month ago
@JamesiProductions
lolnux, just because I want to buy a car doesn't mean I wanna build it from scratch.
RectalDiscourse 3 weeks ago
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Caldyyyyy 1 month ago
macs are bullshit!!!
reinis955 1 month ago
Reiterating a previous point. Hackers target pc's not because of their security flaws, but because everyone has one. MAC's have such a low base of users in comparison to PC's that there are less attacks. It's really simple.
goomee3d 1 month ago
@goomee3d
The same argument can be used for the myth of Mac build quality, too. Much like the difference in homicide rates between Canada and the U.S., Mac quality APPEARS better because for every Mac sold, 100 PCs are sold. Naturally you will see more reports of errors and problems on the PC end. Apple uses this to their advantage with deceptive advertising schemes. In truth, the ratio of technical issues is identical between both platforms.
MaestroDraven 1 month ago
Oh well ps smarty pants that is not an option on the iPad but I will pull out my Mac book for u next time and honestly you eat Tyson chicken which is being mass produced which is really more disgusting than any computer so I blame u
timsmashuhoe 1 month ago
@timsmashuhoe Who ever mentioned Tyson chicken? If you really want to help save the world, then the least you can do is go out and volunteer... But that would include real work, and I guess that's too hard for you.
wilhamlin 1 month ago
my bad not viperxeon but wilhamin your an ass whole excuse me
timsmashuhoe 1 month ago
viperxeon dude why u so mean and they save the world not people they are recycled and save energy ass hole
timsmashuhoe 1 month ago
@timsmashuhoe You honestly think all Macs are made of recycled material? Even though Apple says that MINI is completely recycled, there is no way of knowing considering the fact that their all made in China. For all we know, it could be one of the "dirtiest" computers to make. And on the green note, they only measured the computer itself, without a monitor printer, any external modem, you know stuff people use/need.
PS, if you press reply next to the comment, people will actually get it
wilhamlin 1 month ago
Only porno fiends and dumbasses get viruses. Buy some fucking anti-virus and scan your computer once a week and you'll rarely get a virus.
viperxeon 1 month ago
Who cares if a Mac gets a virus or not it's still bad ass compared to a pc after using the track pad I could never use a pc mouse pad on laptops and macs look cool and save the world n shit
timsmashuhoe 1 month ago
@timsmashuhoe Macs save the world? In what way? Does the military use them to, umm uh, send enemies photo albums? Yeah, they sure are life savers...
wilhamlin 1 month ago
@timsmashuhoe LOL!, try playing games, with a track pad. LOL!
goomee3d 1 month ago
maacs et viruses probs more than PC's
BlackSnake820 1 month ago
This is a stupid myth, macs crash and get viruses also. The myth was distributed by mac fanboys to show how much superior their overpriced computer is.
ChalgakillerBG 1 month ago
@ChalgakillerBG
No, it wasn't. That was Apple's doing. It starts and ends with Apple. Curiously enough, Apple's own network infrastructure employees have spoken out about Mac security exploits at Defcon and Black Hat, and even wrote a corporate-level book regarding the threats to OSX in the forms of viruses, malware, rootkits and hack attacks.
MaestroDraven 1 month ago
Im a pc user and my friend is a mac user. When i was using my laptop and he was using his macbook, we had the usuall pc vs mac argument. One day my pc crashes at school, he says "thats usuall, i mean it is a pc." the next day, his macbook crashed and he wondered why. It dosen't matter if u get an anti-virus program for a pc or buy a mac thats "suppose" to get no virus, because in the end, all computers will crash and have problems at one point. Not to mention there is no such thing as "secure s
PieWorlds 1 month ago
Who cares if PCs get viruses? THATS WHY YOU HAVE A ANTI-VIRUS PROGRAM!
MrMeatBall100 1 month ago
I've yet to experience the phenomenon of a virus on my PC. However it makes sense that if someone where to make malicious software they would target the system with the largest user base. Silly Mac fags.. :l
Al0neStillAlive 1 month ago
the only way people will get viruses is if they dont have protection software. like condoms.
jsbsword 1 month ago
viruses are only a problem if you have a windows xp or lower. Vista and 7 don't really have that issue.
ironmantis25 2 months ago
Mac is still really fast even if you have virus
MegaManny2000 2 months ago
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nerfboogers 2 months ago
The funny thing is that people who hates just have either Mac or PC. So you cant tell whats wrong and not wrong about the other one. I prefer Mac, but I dont mind using a PC.
hasthen19 2 months ago
Who still gets viruses these days?! IT'S CALLED BASIC COMPUTER MAINTENANCE.
randyck 2 months ago
PC's are just virus-generating pieces of shit, and they are made for little kids who will go crazy without Cal of Duty.
Mac's are for mature people who prefer not to get viruses or blue screen.
What do you prefer (be honest)?
MBPi78gb266 2 months ago
@MBPi78gb266
Is that why the book "Enterprise Mac Security: OSX Snow Leopard" was written? You might want to give that a read if you think Macs are too "mature" to get viruses. You'll be shocked. While you're at it, please tell me what a kernel panic is.
MaestroDraven 2 months ago
@MaestroDraven still, a Mac is less likely to get viruses or kernel panic.
MBPi78gb266 2 months ago
@MBPi78gb266
Are you certain? CNET reported equal stability in both platforms, meaning if they're going to crash, they're going to crash at the same rate. I've been a Windows 7 user for over 2 years now and it's been 100% stable without so much as a bump. As for viruses, McAfee just reported that Mac viruses are increasing at a rate of 10% per MONTH. This, coupled with Apple's inherent lack of security means that you're going to see viruses at a rate MUCH worse than you ever did with Windows.
MaestroDraven 2 months ago
@MaestroDraven A kernel panic is pretty much the equivalent of a BSOD but they happen far less often than BSODs.
insecur 1 month ago
@insecur
Correct, except for the "more often" part. It all depends how you've maintained your OS. A properly maintained Windows installation will only suffer BSODs under specific hardware-related circumstances such as faulty RAM or hard drive issues. A Mac kernel panic is unpredictable and can happen for any reason. User upkeep plays no part.
MaestroDraven 1 month ago
@MaestroDraven Yes I guess your right but kernel panics symbolize that there was a problem. And the computer gives you the error report after you've restarted on Macs.
insecur 1 month ago
@insecur
No argument there. They're the same thing, just executed differently. Point is, they can happen equally on both machines depending on what the user has done, or not done.
MaestroDraven 1 month ago
this comercial is 100000000% stupid my mac randomly resets all the fkkkkkking time and i hate it
Jashomartin 2 months ago
Did he said gesundheit ? at 0:05
TRXD0405 2 months ago
thumbs up for alienware and getting a antivirus other than nortan or mcafee
operatorgaming 2 months ago
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robertik31 2 months ago
Enjoy your games, mac lovers. LOOOOOOOOOOL.
sanjukumite 2 months ago
the meaning of PC has changed to refer to Windows OSs, when PC is a computer than one can personally own, therefore, Mac, in of it's self, is a PC, and if PC stands for Personal Crap, than wouldn't that make Mac's personal crap too?
Zeldagigafan90210 2 months ago
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456thevineeth 2 months ago
Only idiots get computer viruses. That's why there are so many Mac users. All the idiots got all the viruses and switched to Macs.
bnbedits 2 months ago 49
@bnbedits Got a PC virus, getting a Macbook Pro
MrGamester66 2 months ago
@bnbedits that is the smartest thing i ever heard in my life............
albertlouisher 2 months ago
@bnbedits 100% correct good sir! The big cause of viruses are also people who watch shittons of porn
sensitivebeat 2 months ago
@bnbedits great comment, that was hilarious.
creativeprojects720 2 months ago
@bnbedits No, I got a mac because adobe systems run better on Mac, and it helps with the graphic design work I do. Plus, they are much cheaper than a PC with the same components the Mac would have.
ITSbigwillystyle 2 months ago
@ITSbigwillystyle
"Plus, they are much cheaper than a PC with the same components the Mac would have."
that is just horribly wrong
SPEEDforYOURneed 2 months ago 25
@ITSbigwillystyle I'm afraid you're incorrect there. Mac's cost around $700-$1000 more than PC's with equal or better quality components. The reason for this is because are made with various components from different companies. This causes competition between companies for a lower price. With macs, however, all of the components are made by Apple. This means that they control the entire market for what goes into their computers. Therefore they raise the price by a lot. This is not... (continued)
ggisedd 1 month ago
@ggisedd lol Apple does not make ANY of the components use in their computers. So let me get this straight, according to you, Apple runs AMD and Intel? Holy shit. That's news to me!
Krieger91 1 month ago
@Krieger91 Yes, it seems I was incorrect on that point (as I said, I've never owned a Mac before). However, that was just a small part of a much larger statement, and I still stand behind that statement. Macs are generally $700 - $1000 more expensive than PC's (my actual point). So as for hardware, PC's are superior. As far as OS is concerned, I prefer Windows, but I do, however, have the ability to use all three major operating systems.
ggisedd 1 month ago
@ITSbigwillystyle however, necessarily a bad thing. It means that you probably get better customer support (I wouldn't know because I've never owned a Mac of my own). However with a Mac, you lack the ability to upgrade your components as technology advances. I personally prefer PC's, but I have no problem using Mac's. As for Adobe products running better on a Mac, I haven't really noticed a difference (though you may be right).
ggisedd 1 month ago
@ITSbigwillystyle You can't do graphic design on average system specs, I hope you realize this.
Adobe is a universal program, they both run equally well on both platforms, there is no evidence of one running better than another
In fact Flash would actually run better on a PC since most things on the internet are still either Java or Flash written which are mostly designed on and for PC's purely because of the universality they have
KyuubiNaruto1337XD 1 month ago
@KyuubiNaruto1337XD I believe the mac to be more user-friendly than a windows pc though (well, when it comes to photo editing, graphic design, etc.). I've used photoshop on both, and I have to say I enjoy it more so on a Mac. I do not know why, but it seems much faster to me. If Macs were systems comparable or even surpassed by pcs, then software companies would quit making software for Mac ALONG with PC. But it's quite the contrary, more companies are starting to make Mac software.
ITSbigwillystyle 1 month ago
@ITSbigwillystyle lets see, if you're refering to Photoshop, I think thats a Mac proprietary software
Also the "they're making more software for macs" is a completely underfunded statistic, seeing as the proportion of home mac users to pc's is still 9-1 according to Computer Weekly
KyuubiNaruto1337XD 1 month ago
@bnbedits Fuck your a legend!
TheNoodlejuice 1 month ago
@bnbedits or the mac is a million times better and the only people that say pc's are better are the people who havent owned a mac.
whiskerjuice 1 month ago
@whiskerjuice
Macs are inherently less powerful. Their technology tree tops out long before the PC's does. They cost significantly more. They possess the least amount of security and are the most vulnerable to rootkits, viruses and hacks. They require Windows to achieve proper versatility and software compatibility. Their upgrade options are limited. The prices on those upgrade options are ridiculous. So...how are they better?
MaestroDraven 1 month ago
@MaestroDraven Macs rarely get viruses and most everyone i know that has a pc has a virus(i know they can be avoided easilly but still) and there are tons of free updates that are very frequent. The only updates that cost any amount of money are ''os'' updates which come once every year or so and they only dont cost alot at all.(the most recent one being osx lion wich costs $30 and comes pre installed on all the new macs).
whiskerjuice 1 month ago
@whiskerjuice
That may be, but Macs are more susceptible to them, that's the issue. Having an obscure market share is not the best excuse for having few viruses. The book "Enterprise Mac Security: OSX Snow Leopard" was written by Apple infrastructure employees who have openly outed the very bad security of Macs, and the threat of exploitation. Apple doesn't have a good track record of patching these vulnerabilities. One Safari bug took them 8 months to plug. Not good.
MaestroDraven 1 month ago
@whiskerjuice
As for Lion, I think the lackluster reviews and lukewarm reception by the Mac community speaks for itself. Lion has been a colossal disappointment.
MaestroDraven 1 month ago
@whiskerjuice The problem with (relatively) few Mac viruses is that Macs are not inherently capable of managing a virus if it does infect the Machine. This is usually because a user will feel that the natural "security" that a Mac offers (tough penetration) is enough, and they wont install an AV. Thing is, all Macs have is tough penetration. They lack the ability to detect, quarantine, and effectively REMOVE a Virus, something Windows users are more than adept at.
AndrewDeLong 1 month ago
@bnbedits so mac users are idiots
Superchickenman159 1 month ago
Well I have a PC and used to have a mac. later all you mac fans, Im going to go play some MW3 on my PC! :D
joshisdabom100 2 months ago
Although I use a PC for 12 years now and don't intend to EVER change to a Mac (or any Apple product for that matter), these clips are kinda funny.
malow87 2 months ago
MAC FTW!! PRESS COMMAND + W
SamBuckleProject 2 months ago
can mac run tetris?
akinorhan5 2 months ago