why don't we think of this question: what is it for the muslim man who did that "trick" to make the other man become a muslim!!?.. will he get paid..???.. he just wanted to save the other man from hell; what's wrong with that.
yes a lie is a lie; and islam does not justify lying; and he shouldn't have lied to that man; but still the qustion is: what is it for him? Sheikh Mahmoud was talking about one basic point every body is ignoring here: that muslims should invite others to islam peacefully.
People are attacking islam now and making things up without any proof..
Where the bible contradicts it self over 50 times while there is s3x, war and violent storys in it and you call this the word of god? What a insult, muslims follow Jesus(esha peace be upon him) more then christians do in the way of living.
Unbelievers shouldnt die on the hand of men either are we allowed to kill people. This is not what the Bible teaches though
@Lizzio1980 I'm sure you're very frustrated and believe that Islam only teaches good, as I once did also. I am a former Muslim. Actually, the Quran is full of violence and comparing it to the Bble doesn't negate that fact. The Quran SAYS to kill unbelievers, even if you obviously don't want it to! Please do some research! Where there is smoke, there is fire!
@newsoul1971 Wait before you keep insulting the islam and not reading the surah's right in the right context. I want to ask you are you a atheist, christian or jew?
@newsoul1971 Give me the vers were it says kill the unbelievers.. Gimme gimme gimme :P
And i will give it about the bible
My friend You were not a muslim you cant even bring good arguments or statments about the islam. Please do answer what are you?: Christian, Jews or atheist.. or something difrent do tell me
@Lizzio19805:33 The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;
@Lizzio1980 Thank you, but I DO speak Arabic. I'm wondering if YOU speak Arabic if you think these translations are so terribly off the mark. Kind of hard to mistranslate "have their hands and feet cut off at opposite sides". Clear, concrete words.
@Lizzio1980 You seem very interested in my current religious status. Why does that make a difference to you if we are merely discussing the texts of Islam? The reason I am not discussing the Christian texts is because that is not the subject of this video! I don't need to google "violent texts" to get my information. I used to teach Islamic studies. LOL
@newsoul1971 Yes i do because if you are a christian i can just come with your own verses our beliefs arent that difrent and you have old laws that muslims follow now.
You teached Islam studies but you dont understand the verses very good?
YUSUFALI: And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.
So I guess you won't mind if I do the same to you for trying to "suppress" my faith?BTW, where did you get that translation of the verse? Never seen it.
@newsoul1971 My apologies, your other notes went to my spam and I didn't see them. I am referring to the beginning of the verse about slaying the kuffar wherever you catch them. There is additional confirmation of this idea within the sunnah as well. Jihad is not only defensive!
Which authorized English version? I have read several of them, and I have not seen this.
The hadith doesn't say Muhammad's life was in danger. The man had "hurt" him because he was against Islam.
why don't u give your self more chance to study islam before issuing false statements that may look stupid or a bullshit probaganda!!?
saying things just because you feel like talking may cause you regret much..
you where an islamic teacher ..!!.. fine.!. do you remember all your teachers at school.... where they all smart and fully aware of what they were teaching or..!!.. or some of them... your x teachers... where.. just stupid ones.?.!!?..
@Lizzio1980 And here is the translation for the previous hadith from MUHSIN KHAN, the MUSLIM translator which is sold in any Islamic bookstore.
Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it."
@newsoul1971 It is amazing to me how Muslims use the same responses when faced with the facts. Are you a Christian, etc? Like that matters at ALL! Or, you never were a Muslim, you're lying. Seriously, I have better things to do than pretend to be an ex-Muslim. Besides, it IS embarrassing that I was so naive for so long. I'm not insulting Islam, merely correcting your mistaken view of it with its own sources. If the Quran and hadith are not "good" sources, I don't know what are.
@newsoul1971 My friend this is a Hadith and not in the Quran. also a very wrong translasion that is only found on the anti islam sites made by atheist's who dont any arabic
@newsoul1971 [8:30] The disbelievers plot and scheme to neutralize you, or kill you, or banish you. However, they plot and scheme, but so does GOD. GOD is the best schemer.
Schemer in the way of how tricky people are god is always smarter and out-tricks them with there own tricks if you understand that.
This dosnt mean you can trick people, islam is just about being fair not false you know this muslims may not lie!
@Lizzio1980 “Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (to remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.” Surah 3: 28
According to this verse it is acceptable for Muslims to use deceptive tactics. They can pretend to befriend infidels.
[3:28] The believers never ally themselves with the disbelievers, instead of the believers. Whoever does this is exiled from GOD. Exempted are those who are forced to do this to avoid persecution. GOD alerts you that you shall reverence Him alone. To GOD is the ultimate destiny.
So where does it says to trick people??
Yes our goal is to go to allah ''swt'' and give us the paradise so its in all the teachings, jews, christians etc.. etc..
Reminds me of the Black Flag, "Roaches go in, but they don't come out" commercial. For all of you Muslims who want to say that the Muslim wasn't correct in tricking the Jew, just look to the words of Muhammad in the hadith as he accepts treachery and lying to benefit the Muslims.
Reminds me of the Black Flag, "Roaches go in, but they don't come out" commercial. For all of you Muslims who want to say that the Muslim wasn't correct in tricking the Jew, just look to the words of Muhammad in the hadith as he accepts treachery and lying to benefit the Muslims.
most islamic preacher are this stupid because there religion its not for intelligent people. anyway one of allah name is the great deceiver so i think that what he said was totaly relevant in islam you can steal kill or do whatever as long its for allah is forgiven. I like the part of the story were he says now you are a muslim you will be killd for leaving islam and punished for drinking witch is writen in the holy fucking koran.
What a total idiot and how totally embarassing to moslems. As a moslem I apologize to all non moslems with regards to this disgusting pig. You don't need "tricks" to get people to convert to our religion. It has to come from within and not due to tricks or other treachery. This guy is a disgrace and should be banned from preaching. It is due to shitheads like this that islam has a bad name.
@hashem089 "lol this is funny.... brommear go read about islam dont talk about a thing u dont know about."
I'm not laughing. 4:89 Kill the unbelievers, 9:29 Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah. 4:129 Ye will not be able to deal equally between (your) wives, however much ye wish (to do so). 3:86 How shall Allah guide a people who disbelieved after their belief...? 3:88 ...Their doom will not be lightened, neither will they be reprieved;
@snaforfun: You must be desperate for attention trolling amongst 2-year old comments. All of my original comments stand - ignoring a reality does not make it go away.
@Brommear no .. actually you handpick mistakes. this man story is rubbish. you dont lie in Islam ... you dont tell lie to fool people.
no muslim ever says to anyone be Muslim and drink alcohol EVER his is a sin to lie about GOD commands and say "you can drink" ... a 6 years old Muslim knows this.
this man talking here doesnt represnt anything but himself in this story.
We look at the good and the bad deeds of a person in order to find out what their character is like. Mohammed did many evil actions in his life. Why not concentrate on his bad actions? Actions like him allowing his men to have sex with captured women?
@quickpua give us muslims exact and precise proof that muhammad did. we muslims have never heard of such crap in this world. GIVE US PROOF ARROGANT PEOPLE!!!
@theclaw11 "Why he didn't Talk about respect Islam to other religions? And women, too?"
Such as requiring four witnesses to a woman's rape in order that she be believed? That kind of respect? Or how about apostasy being punished by stoning? That kind of respect for others?
this man made a mistake and you are fishing mistakes. who said this man represnts any one but himself
he didnt quote from the oly Quran. he said a bluff story that cant be even authenticated.
get lost people go learn from the sources not from youtube
snaforfun 1 month ago
..however small... lol
Fucking racists.
Kan2209 10 months ago
i have seen this same cleric crying on youtube. i suppose those were fake tears too!
iputonchrist 10 months ago
The burqa is the black version of the KKK.
The only difference is that the Muslim MOON-god worshipping LUNATICS murder more people EVERYDAY than the original KKK murdered in 50 years!!!
truthjustice7878 11 months ago
WTF. "These people are sick. They are sinners." The only sicko in this situation is that nasty creep talking.
rosemary7913 1 year ago
some to my page and watch my video " Ex Muslim explains how Christians are tricked into becoming Muslim"
ceeker248 1 year ago
why don't we think of this question: what is it for the muslim man who did that "trick" to make the other man become a muslim!!?.. will he get paid..???.. he just wanted to save the other man from hell; what's wrong with that.
yes a lie is a lie; and islam does not justify lying; and he shouldn't have lied to that man; but still the qustion is: what is it for him? Sheikh Mahmoud was talking about one basic point every body is ignoring here: that muslims should invite others to islam peacefully.
ABUAMR1000 1 year ago
People are attacking islam now and making things up without any proof..
Where the bible contradicts it self over 50 times while there is s3x, war and violent storys in it and you call this the word of god? What a insult, muslims follow Jesus(esha peace be upon him) more then christians do in the way of living.
Unbelievers shouldnt die on the hand of men either are we allowed to kill people. This is not what the Bible teaches though
Lizzio1980 1 year ago
@Lizzio1980 I'm sure you're very frustrated and believe that Islam only teaches good, as I once did also. I am a former Muslim. Actually, the Quran is full of violence and comparing it to the Bble doesn't negate that fact. The Quran SAYS to kill unbelievers, even if you obviously don't want it to! Please do some research! Where there is smoke, there is fire!
newsoul1971 1 year ago
@newsoul1971 Wait before you keep insulting the islam and not reading the surah's right in the right context. I want to ask you are you a atheist, christian or jew?
Lizzio1980 1 year ago
@newsoul1971 Give me the vers were it says kill the unbelievers.. Gimme gimme gimme :P
And i will give it about the bible
My friend You were not a muslim you cant even bring good arguments or statments about the islam. Please do answer what are you?: Christian, Jews or atheist.. or something difrent do tell me
Lizzio1980 1 year ago
@Lizzio1980 5:33 The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;
newsoul1971 1 year ago
@newsoul1971 Pick who you want to belief: /islamawakened(dot)com/Quran/5/33/
As i said again you shouldnt translate the Quran in english but learn Arabic if you really want to know about it...
Lizzio1980 1 year ago
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newsoul1971 1 year ago
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@Lizzio1980 Thank you, but I DO speak Arabic. I'm wondering if YOU speak Arabic if you think these translations are so terribly off the mark. Kind of hard to mistranslate "have their hands and feet cut off at opposite sides". Clear, concrete words.
newsoul1971 1 year ago
@Lizzio1980 You seem very interested in my current religious status. Why does that make a difference to you if we are merely discussing the texts of Islam? The reason I am not discussing the Christian texts is because that is not the subject of this video! I don't need to google "violent texts" to get my information. I used to teach Islamic studies. LOL
newsoul1971 1 year ago
@newsoul1971 Yes i do because if you are a christian i can just come with your own verses our beliefs arent that difrent and you have old laws that muslims follow now.
You teached Islam studies but you dont understand the verses very good?
Do you know arabic?
Lizzio1980 1 year ago
@Lizzio1980 Surah 2.191
YUSUFALI: And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.
So I guess you won't mind if I do the same to you for trying to "suppress" my faith?BTW, where did you get that translation of the verse? Never seen it.
newsoul1971 1 year ago
@newsoul1971 Authoriezed english version my friend.
DOnt you undertand english? IT SAYS IN SURAH 2.191 UNLESS THEY FIRST FIGHT YOU.
Lizzio1980 1 year ago
@newsoul1971 My apologies, your other notes went to my spam and I didn't see them. I am referring to the beginning of the verse about slaying the kuffar wherever you catch them. There is additional confirmation of this idea within the sunnah as well. Jihad is not only defensive!
Which authorized English version? I have read several of them, and I have not seen this.
The hadith doesn't say Muhammad's life was in danger. The man had "hurt" him because he was against Islam.
newsoul1971 1 year ago
@newsoul1971 Please come with the verses and ill explaine and reply on them.. Very easly: .submission. org (english translated Quran)
Lizzio1980 1 year ago
@newsoul1971
why don't u give your self more chance to study islam before issuing false statements that may look stupid or a bullshit probaganda!!?
saying things just because you feel like talking may cause you regret much..
you where an islamic teacher ..!!.. fine.!. do you remember all your teachers at school.... where they all smart and fully aware of what they were teaching or..!!.. or some of them... your x teachers... where.. just stupid ones.?.!!?..
ABUAMR1000 1 year ago
@Lizzio1980 And here is the translation for the previous hadith from MUHSIN KHAN, the MUSLIM translator which is sold in any Islamic bookstore.
Allah's Apostle said, "Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?" Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?" The Prophet said, "Yes," Muhammad bin Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). "The Prophet said, "You may say it."
newsoul1971 1 year ago
@newsoul1971 So muhammed(pbuh) said you may lie to let him live... Woow either you cant read or you are full of hate?
Lizzio1980 1 year ago
@newsoul1971 It is amazing to me how Muslims use the same responses when faced with the facts. Are you a Christian, etc? Like that matters at ALL! Or, you never were a Muslim, you're lying. Seriously, I have better things to do than pretend to be an ex-Muslim. Besides, it IS embarrassing that I was so naive for so long. I'm not insulting Islam, merely correcting your mistaken view of it with its own sources. If the Quran and hadith are not "good" sources, I don't know what are.
newsoul1971 1 year ago
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@newsoul1971 Why dont you answer my qeustion?
Lizzio1980 1 year ago
@newsoul1971 My friend again i ask you what are you a atheist who is searching google with violence verses in the Quran or a christian?
Why dont you attack the bible but the Quran?
Lizzio1980 1 year ago
Sorry for all the extra posts. Malfunctioning posting system! Anyway, dear Muslims, here is the precedent set forth by Muhammad.
Bukhari:5.369 "Allah's Apostle said, 'Who is willing to kill Ka'b bin Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?'
Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslamah got up saying, 'O Allah's Apostle! Would you like me to kill him?' The Prophet said, 'Yes,'
Maslamah said, 'Then allow me to say false things in order to deceive him.'
The Prophet said, 'You may say such things.'"
newsoul1971 1 year ago
@newsoul1971 My friend this is a Hadith and not in the Quran. also a very wrong translasion that is only found on the anti islam sites made by atheist's who dont any arabic
Lizzio1980 1 year ago
@Lizzio1980 Right. And you're going to tell me the original Arabic has a totally different meaning, sure.
I'm sure you're aware that Allah is described in the Quran as “the best of deceivers.” in surah 8:30.
newsoul1971 1 year ago
@newsoul1971 [8:30] The disbelievers plot and scheme to neutralize you, or kill you, or banish you. However, they plot and scheme, but so does GOD. GOD is the best schemer.
Schemer in the way of how tricky people are god is always smarter and out-tricks them with there own tricks if you understand that.
This dosnt mean you can trick people, islam is just about being fair not false you know this muslims may not lie!
Lizzio1980 1 year ago
@Lizzio1980 “Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (to remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.” Surah 3: 28
According to this verse it is acceptable for Muslims to use deceptive tactics. They can pretend to befriend infidels.
newsoul1971 1 year ago
@newsoul1971 Choose Your Friends Carefully
[3:28] The believers never ally themselves with the disbelievers, instead of the believers. Whoever does this is exiled from GOD. Exempted are those who are forced to do this to avoid persecution. GOD alerts you that you shall reverence Him alone. To GOD is the ultimate destiny.
So where does it says to trick people??
Yes our goal is to go to allah ''swt'' and give us the paradise so its in all the teachings, jews, christians etc.. etc..
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Reminds me of the Black Flag, "Roaches go in, but they don't come out" commercial. For all of you Muslims who want to say that the Muslim wasn't correct in tricking the Jew, just look to the words of Muhammad in the hadith as he accepts treachery and lying to benefit the Muslims.
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Reminds me of the Black Flag, "Roaches go in, but they don't come out" commercial. For all of you Muslims who want to say that the Muslim wasn't correct in tricking the Jew, just look to the words of Muhammad in the hadith as he accepts treachery and lying to benefit the Muslims.
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Oh he's just so happy-go-lucky.
Sychera 1 year ago
I DIDN'T HEAR THIS STORY BEFORE !!!
XxXSingingAxisxXx 1 year ago
as a muslim i NEVER heard of this story and i think this guy made it up this is actuallY AGAINST what the quran preeches..whata a dope head
arabianknightztv 1 year ago
most islamic preacher are this stupid because there religion its not for intelligent people. anyway one of allah name is the great deceiver so i think that what he said was totaly relevant in islam you can steal kill or do whatever as long its for allah is forgiven. I like the part of the story were he says now you are a muslim you will be killd for leaving islam and punished for drinking witch is writen in the holy fucking koran.
igedeanunya 1 year ago
What a total idiot and how totally embarassing to moslems. As a moslem I apologize to all non moslems with regards to this disgusting pig. You don't need "tricks" to get people to convert to our religion. It has to come from within and not due to tricks or other treachery. This guy is a disgrace and should be banned from preaching. It is due to shitheads like this that islam has a bad name.
majdq8 1 year ago
@majdq8 would it be OK to judge islam by your prophet?
sirjambo 1 year ago
lol this is funny.... brommear go read about islam dont talk about a thing u dont know about.
hashem089 2 years ago
@hashem089 "lol this is funny.... brommear go read about islam dont talk about a thing u dont know about."
I'm not laughing. 4:89 Kill the unbelievers, 9:29 Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah. 4:129 Ye will not be able to deal equally between (your) wives, however much ye wish (to do so). 3:86 How shall Allah guide a people who disbelieved after their belief...? 3:88 ...Their doom will not be lightened, neither will they be reprieved;
FSAthe1st 1 year ago
theclaw11: Yes, why don't we talk about the ethics of your prophet? Like child molesting, rape and murder whenever it suited him?
This video clearly considers it good to deceive people. Is that part of his ethics too?
Justice and fairness? How about Islam showing justice and fairness in treating Salman Rushdie, Geert Wilders, de Jongh and the Danish cartoonists?
Brommear 2 years ago 6
@Brommear LIES.
snaforfun 1 month ago
@snaforfun: You must be desperate for attention trolling amongst 2-year old comments. All of my original comments stand - ignoring a reality does not make it go away.
Brommear 3 weeks ago
@Brommear no .. actually you handpick mistakes. this man story is rubbish. you dont lie in Islam ... you dont tell lie to fool people.
no muslim ever says to anyone be Muslim and drink alcohol EVER his is a sin to lie about GOD commands and say "you can drink" ... a 6 years old Muslim knows this.
this man talking here doesnt represnt anything but himself in this story.
snaforfun 2 weeks ago
A message to all the people who watch this man videos ..
this man is "Fishing in troubled waters"!
he show to us only headnotes .. And does not appear positive ..
Why did not Talk about the ethics of the Prophet Muhammad and learn from them or reminding it?
Why he didn't Talk about respect Islam to other religions? And women, too?
PS : he did in other video but in Otherwise.
Why he didn't look for justice and fairness in Islam?
Why he just attack Islam?
Good luck to answer this question!!
theclaw11 2 years ago
We look at the good and the bad deeds of a person in order to find out what their character is like. Mohammed did many evil actions in his life. Why not concentrate on his bad actions? Actions like him allowing his men to have sex with captured women?
quickpua 2 years ago 6
@quickpua give us muslims exact and precise proof that muhammad did. we muslims have never heard of such crap in this world. GIVE US PROOF ARROGANT PEOPLE!!!
Mubarak635 1 year ago
@quickpua first of all , sex with a slave girl evry one did in old times. including Abraham , Jaccob , Solomon
but the thing is. it was NEVER FORCED. it was by her agreeing.
and it was NEVER mixed sex, it was like his wife only for him and the child are his children.
that is , if it happens , a man loves his slave girl and she loves him , they can be like man and wife and no one else touches her but him.
why dont you learn b4 you talk ?
snaforfun 1 month ago
@theclaw11 "Why he didn't Talk about respect Islam to other religions? And women, too?"
Such as requiring four witnesses to a woman's rape in order that she be believed? That kind of respect? Or how about apostasy being punished by stoning? That kind of respect for others?
FSAthe1st 1 year ago