Jesus was a conservative

[hedleypanama]

Jesus was conservative.... he has a lot of IOU for his miracles... that's in the bible!

[BRENDAMAJORS]

Jesus was a capitalist. Greatest satire since Jonathan Swift's A Modest Proposal.

But those without an ear for satire will not hear.

[Rayosun4]

This is a very SLICK commercial, but too see what "junk theology" it is, Google " "Christlike liberals" (no quotes).

One good example of the shameful violence this video does to Christ's teaching is the use TWICE of the talents quote, which Jesus didn't use LITERALLY, but as a figure of speech for promoting MORAL CHARACTER, vs. FILTHY LUCRE!

THIS is the CONSERVATIVE idea of "spreading the Gospel"!!!

[aaa333ify]

Jesus said to give to the poor- not to have the government take your money and give it to the poor!

[JohnnyDart76]

@newsman1290: I think he was, too. He did go against the established traditions of the time.

[MaxSafeheaD]

"Jesus was a capitalist"

LEARN YOUR RELIGION

Even an atheist knows the line about the camel passing through the eye of a needle easier than a rich man getting into heaven.

You've a more distorted view of your own religion than the bloody islamists.

Now turn the other cheek, bitch.

[newsman1290]

no matter how we dice things together.

[newsman1290]

We have choice to choose between good and bad. Sure some want to condem. But also we got to be sure not to condemn one another. Or we might also to be condemned. Also I think the bigger picture is the vatican, sunday laws, mark of the beast, ac mayteria, project blue beam, and harp. Rember the armies of the world will make war with the lamb but the lamb shall win for he is king of kings and lord of lords. Therefore we are in his image. God is incontrol of the situation though

[newsman1290]

I think jesus was a liberal. The reason I believe this is that alot of these holidays are based on the traditions of this world. Also because he is the judge and lawyers also tend to be judges. After all god made man in his image. Therefore he give us free will also to choose between right and wrong. No personally I am not for abortion or gay marriage. But I say leave it up to the constituion. I say he was liberal cause the holy spirit inside us tell us what is wrong and right. Therefore

[Hbbt82]

That, didn't amke a whole lot of sense, I mean the verses you posted didn't have any solid application to anything and in otehr instances you just amde staments without even offering Biblical support

[TheClassicalLiberal]

When you read John 21:10 in full context, it has nothing to do with the merits of pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps. He says to his disciples to bring the fish aboard, they cook breakfast from the catch, and afterwards, Jesus asks Simon Peter in verse 15 if he loves the Fish the they caught more than him. After Peter expresses his devotion to him, Jesus tells him to Feed his Lambs, referring to humanity. That seems rather socialist to me.

[FT4U]

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[MaxSafeheaD]

"who is behind abortion"

Easy - women who's birth control has failed

[mickeysteib]

If jesus were a conservative we would all be jewish.

[Slyfer7]

you did a great job a twisting the bible around into your views. I applaud you!

[t00117598]

jesus is imaginary so how could he be conservative?

[shas1814]

"Sit here while I go pray"

Yep, that proves it.

Jesus was a Republican.

How absurd can you get?

And Jesus never once mentioned gay marriage.

This is just lies.

"Sell all that you have and give to the poor."

Sounds to me like Jesus was a Socialist.

[Rayosun]

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[tobers2313]

Wow, something so productive. You seem proud of that pointlessness

[Rayosun]

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[ItachiRaikiri]

If anything saying that Jesus was a capitalist (yeah that's why he threw the merchants out of the Temple....) is an isult to His name...

[tobers2313]

Capitalism is a economic strategy. It's fundamental idea is to let the people who earn the money keep it in a free market environment. Jesus threw out the moneychangers because they were using the house of the Lord for the wrong reason. Jesus never once said the government should be in charge of taking money from the wealthy and giving it to the poor. He gave us the free will to do it ourselves. The government has the power to take money and distribute as they see fit. This isn't free will.

[ItachiRaikiri]

And you ignore the fundamental practile fault of capitalism: large income gaps.... I don't really think Jesus would like that...

[tobers2313]

I never said capitalism didn't have it's faults, it's unperfect like everything else in this world. You saying "Jesus wouldn't like that" is asserting that Jesus suggested how we should run an economy. The onus is on YOU and not the government as a Christian. The private sector of the United States is by far the most generous group of people in the world. There are many things Jesus wouldn't like that happen every second on earth, but Jesus made it clear that the individual is responsible.

[ItachiRaikiri]

''The private sector of the United States is by far the most generous group of people in the world''

Still the privite sector will only care for one thing..Profit and profit alone... The ''liberalism'' (not by the american definition) has produced persons that care not even the least over social issues and focus instead on themselves alone.. No social solidarity at all..

[ItachiRaikiri]

Companies care for social issues as long as they fall among the lines of their economic interests.. Now would Jesus want that??

[tobers2313]

You make it sound like every company has eeeevil CEO's who count their money all day. There are so many hard working people that put God, Family and Country first. There are so many different sizes and styles of businesses that pay 45% of their income to taxes and still donate hundreds of thousands of dollars a year (while paying for health benefits for their employees). If that isn't carrying weight I don't know what is.

Say all you want about how Jesus wouldn't like that.

[ItachiRaikiri]

Their God, Their Family, Their country... The atomicism I was talking about...

[tobers2313]

For every three hard working and responsible individuals in this country, there's someone who doesn't at all care about self responsibility. Those people love the Christian gift givers, and no amount of giving will improve on their lives until they've decided to make it better. That's why conservatives believe in responsibility and the individual taking care of his/herself before looking to the government for help. I'd rather live in a world where people carried their own weight, would Jesus?

[ItachiRaikiri]

I'd rather live in a world where people cared a bit more about others..

[tobers2313]

How do you acknowledge the fact that American's are the most charitable people in the world, then go on to say that they only care about profit? American's are twice as charitable as any other country you put it up against, but still all they care about is profit? ....No If that were true, you should be happy. Americans care about profit, and also about charity? I'd say that works for both parties. Profit wins therefore the most charitable people make the most profit, thus more is donated......

[ItachiRaikiri]

Charity means poverty... How do you explain that the Scandinavian countries are of the most desirable places for people to live?

[tobers2313]

"I'd rather live in a world where people cared a bit more about others"

I agree, I would too, and that also means the people that are milking the welfare and charity system, would care for others too by carrying their fair share.

"Their God, Their Family, Their country... The atomicism I was talking about.."

The United States donates a lot of money within and outside of the borders, but are we responsible to look after every single person on this planet? No. Should our main concern be the US?

[mickeysteib]

Pray for and help every single person on this planet.. Help when possible.

[tobers2313]

"Charity means poverty... How do you explain that the Scandinavian countries are of the most desirable places for people to live?"

I don't know about you, but I'd rather live in the good ol' US of A. In all seriousness, I don't know anything about Scandanavian economics. I'm assuming if everyone that was unhappy here in the US moved there, the same problems would occur. That type of lifestyle might be for you. I assure you, their success isn't based on the character of their people.

[tobers2313]

Success isn't based on the character of their people, but more so, on the lack of other cultures. You can mostly get along without diversity, but if Scandanavian's took on the rest of the world's people and problems (like the US has done), you'd see a swift collapse in their system (which is basically welfare). I believe it's happening somehwhat and has been slowly happening for a while

[ItachiRaikiri]

Ok anyway I guess Europeans and Americans have a completely different life philosophy...

[tobers2313]

Sarcasm?

[ItachiRaikiri]

No, the conclusion I've reached after watching hours of documentaries, reading books and debating with americans since I joined youtube around 4 months ago.... It just mirrors the truth... Socialism is viewed like pure evil in america while in europe even ''consevatives'' nowdays view it in a sympathetic way..

[tobers2313]

I agree 100%. Socialism is viewed as evil by most here. It's basically a dirty word. We base our views off of people like Kondratieff (who attempted to prove that socialism was better than capitalism and was murdered for his findings), and the base of our system came from the founding fathers, who believed in capitalism. It's an intersting and intricate debate.

[TheClassicalLiberal]

Yah, there's a large majority that frown on it. I say, as long as we have a tax payer system, using it to make sure children don't die because their parents lack medical coverage seems completely legitimate. To call Jesus a conservative is just delusional too. "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." That doesn't sound very capitalist to me.

[ItachiRaikiri]

For example something I bet you didn't know: In Greece the Communist Party is generally recognized as offering a great deal at the recistance against the Nazi forces... In 1989 it participated in a govermant along with the majaor right wing Party.. Nowdays it is being accused by leftists that it (remember I'm refering to the COMMUNIST Party) is right wing itself, that it supports the goals of the right wingers and cooperates with the police.. Funny isn't it??

[tobers2313]

Now, if you'd like to argue that some of the wrong people are in government, I'll agree 100%. If you'd like to argue that there are too man hypocrites in government, I'll agree. Out of touch, selfish beurocrats running our country are the problem. Men like Joe Biden, who have given 3,600 dollars total over 6 years of receiving a six figure income, telling us that we should pay more taxes because it's time to be "patriotic". People like this are the problem. Thats a criticism I can agree with

[shas1814]

God has chosen Obama to rescue America from the evil Bush administration.

And about time, too!

[lessofmemorejesus]

Nice SPIN, but the actual words of our Lord Jesus on the Mount were, (in context)...

Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.

Blessed are the gentle, for they shall inherit the earth.

Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.

Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.

Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.

[lessofmemorejesus]

Jesus also said...

Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.

Blessed are those who have been persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.

Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

[maxielectric]

In theological circles that is called proof texting! If you ever get around to reading the Sermon on the Mount you will find that Jesus was a Big Liberal! Being your Brothers' keeper is not a Conservative value!

[tobers2313]

I'm a conservative and being my brother's keeper is actually the most important value other that God and family. That's just an extremely ignorant thing to say. You do realize that character comes from within and not from some goober on CNN telling me what the characteristics of my being should be based on my political views. Everyone can learn from Christ's compassion, regardless of their political stances. Don't tell me what my value's are Max

[Spideyfan117]

Give a man a fish feed him for a day, teach a man how to fish feed him for life.

[cubano1345]

"jesus was a consevative" just like bush right?

[tobers2313]

Bush isn't a conservative...Sorry

[Rayosun]

It's hillarious to see conservative Republicans like Tobers2313 trying to distance themselves from Bush and the whole slew of Republican crooks and liars like Richard Nixon, Spiro Agnew, U.S. Senators, Strom Thurmond, Conrad Burns, Rick Santorum, Bill Frist, Bob Packwood, Ted Stevens, Larry Craig, Philip Giordano, and since I'm running out of space, see my second post dealing with Republican Congressmen and women:

[tobers2313]

Bush was my president, as well as Obama will be. I hope for the best in Obama, and I can review the worst and best in Bush. The definition of conservative is very straight forward. Bush, isn't one. I'm not distancing myself from Bush by saying that at all. You can make a list just as long as you want of both republican and democratic politicians who were awful. It still doesn't make your argument "un idiotic". Your argument is pointless and idiotic Rayosun.

[tobers2313]

And why do I get the sense that you're calling out for support by not directly responding to my quote, and instead saying how "isn't it funny that Tobers..". You're such a shifter of opinion there Rayosun. You managed to put together quite a list there. Nice..Might I add that a conservative is supposed to be individually responsible for himself/herself. To be a stand up individual. To defend and uphold the constitution (just to name a few). Things Bush didn't do..

[cubano1345]

First the bible is so ambigous that a liberal perspective of jesus could be more easily portrayed. The verses that you used does not logically justified your political views. Conservatism is an stupid mix of religion and right wing politics. Pro-life but cut taxes "dont take my money away'sounds selfish? and sad part is that right wing politicians take advantage of ignorant christians like you.

[PheonixRise173]

"First the bible is so ambigous that a liberal perspective of jesus could be more easily portrayed."

BULL!!

Jesus was a conserative and called the liberals (the Pharisees) hypocrites!

I guess so things never change...

God bless you T. Shoebat!