(They intend to put out the Light of Allah with their mouths. But Allah will bring His Light to perfection even though the disbelievers hate (it).) Al-Saaf (61:8).”
@subs367 I find it amazing that its you who is in our countries forcing if their is any forcing going on but you blame us. I don't blame you are problem is you are a Brit, sun sat on your empire too soon for you to bask in any glory, if there was any to begin with.
So interesting...just today I was talking to a friend a/b Islam. I said "I don't believe Islam is a religion as much as it is a religious political organization". (I love to study Islam & read the Qur'an. Over time it became apparent to me that Islam is political)
I'd never heard this commentary by Robertson- yet I had already come to the same conclusion. I found this video by typing in "How to read the Qur'an" so I don't think it's by accident that I found this video today.
@GenevaPilgrim Islam is not politics but there is politics in Islam. Meaning Islam is not a branch of politics neither politics is a branch of Islam. Having said that, there is politics in Islam. Islam doesn't stop there. It is a complete system. Economic, legal, social, religous, education including sex education, idology, theology, civil rights, democracy, military, foreign affairs, public relation, self decipline, daily affairs, personal hygine and the list can go on and on. It is complete.
If you convert islam you belive on moses,jesus and follow there laws how you have to live on earth what you can eat and what thing you cant eat,Honest,clever,educated peoples know christian faith based on lot of error and if you refuse lord book then we human have singel ticket to fire only because we must follow laws of our creater and creater of earth,universe,heavens and civilizations among them,We are not on party on earth those who belive that soon they shell know truth on last breath,
pork,adultry,gambling,naked on beaches etc forbiden in moses book but its ok in my new book,
Show me where jesus said theses all things fact is new book is not a complet law book like moses book and jesus was from jew family he was sent for jews not another new faith,SO YOU SAY ISLAM IS NOT RELIGION i think wise inteligent,honest educated peoples have no choice but convert to islam,Where you shell go idoletry ? its strange jews dont belive on jesus and christians dont belive on moses laws so
IF islam is not a religion then is christian faith is religion?
Well islam have complet laws from A to Z how you shell eat,how you shell shawer,how you shell sleep,how you have to live on earth BUTjesus never said any book i bring new religion for jews or non jews
Jesus never said cross is holy and fat hairy man is holy simbol of my birthday,
Jesus never said all books and prophets before me they lie about one lord but me i say TRINITY 3 gods father son and holy ghost,
@phucoff1 are you trying to tell me your religion is peacefull.give me a break and read history of christianity from 1200 AD to 1800.find out about witch bible.40,000 innocent women died through out europe please find out there crime.befor calling islam a vilent religion.
did i say Christianity is all peaceful? no i never. i just hate it how Muslims try to say how peaceful Islam is when it isn't, as its got pure hate and evil written all over it.
Islam can be fucked up, there's no debate there, but all religions have their own nasty history of hypocrisy and bloodshed. Pat's so quick to call for war against Iran, I wonder what Jesus would say to that? Honestly believe what you want, but you cannot separate yourself from the world around you, actions have consequences and if you become so deluded through faith you can commit the worst evils imaginable and somehow come up with a way to JUSTIFY yourself.
Wow pat. can you please show us some references from the Bible which liberates those ,1,900+ women who are raped every day in your US? Or to make easy for you how Christianity helps in stopping millions of robbery taking place in your country? Frankly Bible has no answers to your problems. According to Jimmy Swagart there are 5 million drunkards in US! what ist he Biblical way to liberate them, compare it with the Quránic law how to deal with these problems and get your society liberated
The Quran is a record of the exact words revealed by God through the Angel Gabriel to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). It was memorized by Muhammad (peace be upon him) and then dictated to his companions, and written down by scribes, who crosschecked it during his lifetime. Not one word of its 114 Surahs, has been changed over the centuries, so that the Quran is in every detail the unique and miraculous text which was revealed to Muhammad (peace be upon him) fourteen centuries ago.
Islam may seem exotic or even extreme in the modern world. Perhaps this is because religion does not dominate everyday life in the West today, whereas Muslims have religion always uppermost in their minds, and make no division between secular and sacred. They believe that the Divine Law, the Shari'a, should be taken very seriously, which is why issues related to religion are still so important.
Sadly this fool doesn't realize that Christianity has killed more than all the diseases combined. From the dozen Crusades to the Salem Witch Trials, the number of people killed in the name of "god" is countless.
Unfortunately, like any other living organism, when you die.. Its over. Sorry I don't buy into the eternal life bullshit. Only a person with a huge ego would believe he or she can live forever. You expire and its over. Deal with it.
this is total bullshit. this guy is an idiot. i can't even begin to understand how this makes any sense in this guys mind. some people are so ignorant....
That is extremely funny. "They want everybody live under there laws and there customs..." sounds a lot like America
Also Islam says Free a Slave. Christianity says make the children of your slaves, slaves. And every generation of that slave will be a slave and an israeli can never be a slave. Psht.
@spiz3y So it is better to be a slave to capitalism and a slave to material things and a slave to this corrupt democratic system. But i can not be a submitter to the religion of the One God and a slave to the One God? Your a slave to whether you acknowledge it or not and you will be returned to him to answer.
Aren't all religions based on a deathwish - Christianity also? Provide evidence of your beliefs - however crazy they might be and maybe you will get somewhere!
Go to hell Pat Robertson who are you to say that islam is not a relgion it is so a relgion the second biggest one in the world soon to be within a decade the number one relgion hitler was christion does that mean all christions want to kill the jews
That's not Jihad, you idiot. Jihad is many things such as if a serial killer tried to kill you and your family but you defended yourself that's Jihad, if someone attacked your religion and you defended it that's Jihad, if you fought for your country that's Jiahd. Jihad means "struggle in the way of god".
@ScaryMuslim And what has come from islam? Peace? I think not. Islam is still in the 1400s. Blacks like cattle? Apparently u haven't lived in the ME. In Saudi Arabia they treat the Palestinians and Pakis as cattle. Weapons of mass D? Well...U would use it if U had them. Porn/ child porn? U have them in the ME. The worst porn I have seen was Paki porn in Saudi Arabia. I threw up in my mouth. 100,000,000? Alcoholism? Jew killing? Muslims have done them all. So what are U trying to prove?
Hmmm. That sounds a lot like the catholic church. Anyone remember the crusades? or colonialism? Subjugation is a big word for ya there, Pat. You remember how it was applied to native americans and enslaved africans in this country? You sure about "your" religion being the only true path to peace?
Because personally, it sounds to me like you're full of shit.
Theres no such thing as a true religion. How is such an idea even possible? How would you subjectively know which is correct? All are essentially the same. It boggles the mind how these people think that their faith is "true".
@SomeRandomDude00 christianity is just as equal of a cult as islam. What is the difference between a religion and a cult? Its based upon time. Cults can break apart sometimes very easily. Religions last a little longer. But there is no real difference.
Fuck Pat Robertson AND the Fucking Jesus Christ. In the name of fucking Jesus christ millions of Jews got murdered during past 2000 years.... now it is OUR time to destroy those mother fucking pinked ass fanatic christians. ... .hahahahah
@nour0004 What is bigs urine??? What era are you from?? Lol. Bigs urine? Very silly stuff, but expected. In decline? I don't think so, but like I said before...good luck trying to defeat us.
"good luck trying to defeat us" ?? As I said your blood is filthy with pig's urine, and your women fuck with Arabs in Dubai and Egypt. Soooo, there is no need fo US "trying to defeat you", the current U.S government is doing good job getting rid humanity of your evile.
So much hate? It is your religion that caused the murder of estimated 23 million Jews during past 2000 years. I do not know about you lady, but your fake god is obviously false.
@nour0004 I am not sure what religion you like I am, but let me make it clear. I don't believe in any of the desert religions. But islam is a real threat to our way of life in the West. The other religions have no real control or threat to our way of life. So, sharmuta, do you have something real to add other than trollish rants?
Kuuuusss umek. "islam is a real threat" ??? you are threatened by islam for a simple reason. YOU have NO way of life. The rest of the world they know where they stand (including towel heads). But you, I wouldn't be surpised if you are a fag. I am sure you can use bible to justify becoming a fag. You can justify ANYTHING with bible since it is corrupt.
@nour0004 Sharmuta... you have not added anything new. Why don't you use the brain allah gave you and try to make some sense. Is the bible corrupt?? IF that is what you like, but remember, all the stories found in the bible are in the quran. So if the bible is corrupt, so is the quran. Try to use logic in your response. BTW: Its funny you use the fage comment. Where do you think the most gay porn is downloaded? San Fran? Nope. Saudi Arabia. I bet you didn't know that.
@ThingsThatVexMe ...hahahah... what the fuck is "fage" ??? learn to spell before trying to say anything in Arabic. Your fruite fly brain can't comprehend more than the word "sharmuta"...Let me tell you this in Arabic... "Kus umek, we ra7 aneek ukhtek 3ala sadir umek" ... hahaha. I have no reason to defend Saudis or any of the towel heads. I hate them more than anyone else. All Ibrahamic religions are fucked up. And, yes, Christianity is violent since they murdered 23 million Jews.
@nour0004 So if U don't like the "towel heads" why are U so upset. Why are you defending them and trying to troll me? I mean, U can call me what U want all day long. I really don't care. Seriously, I don't lose any sleep over U calling me fag or whatever else you want to call me. It just sounds to me that you really cannot have a real conversation with anyone so you use vulgarities to make a point. I am not upset at all. I find it sad that all you have is hate in you. What kind of life is that.
@ThingsThatVexMe No body is trying to troll you. This is the deal. NO religion is rational. Whatever claims that come from any religious fanatic such as Robertson is questionable and they do not have credibilty to make such strong claims against others.
@nour0004 1. Finally...we can talk about something. I totally agree. Pat Robertson and the 700 club are crazy. I don't believe in the desert religions either, but I have lived in Saudi Arabia for 15+ years and I can say that what he is saying has some truth to it. Just because pat is crazy does not mean he does not say the truth sometimes. You must understand that islam is not just a relgion like Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism etc. It is a political system. Actually, it is how Christianity
@ThingsThatVexMe 2. used to be long ago but worse in many ways. It is worse because the actual founder was a murdering, conquering warlord. That is the biggest difference. The Jews, Christians and the other religions are not imposing themselves into people's lives anymore. We have a separation of church and state. But many muslims are bent on changing our way of life and that is what i have a problem with. You must understand that many don't care or respect you, me or the country they are in.
The founder wasn't a murdering conquering warlord. How can you call someone who slept in a low quality bed, who lived in a low quality home, who never ate to his heart's content, who spent most of his wealth with his people and did many other honorable things. What do you mean by many muslims? You mean those terrorists who shouldn't even be called muslims? I respect anyone who respects me.
@superfakerbros Yeah...& you have proven to show respect? And I do say many, because I have met many. Arab culture is different than islam. So lets clarify. Mohamed was not a peaceful caring man. He made up a religion to solidify his power. That can all be proven in the quran itself. Now in terms are being an idiot, that title i bestow on you. The quran is based on the Torah and Bible. You are the one in denial. Mohamed took the existing religions and made his own. Nothing new. Same old stories.
Muhammad was the only person in the world close to perfection. He didn't create power through fear, unless you consider killing those who attacked them fear. He didn't make up the religion, heck he didn't even write the Quran. The Quran isn't based on the Torah nor your Bible. The Quran were messages from the Allah just like the Tawrat, the Injil, the Zabur, etc. but those books are lost and gone. The newer ones have some teachings from the books but it's mixed with lies.
@superfakerbros Believe this all you like. Fairytales are just that, fairytales. Then how do you explain the same old stories in the quran? The word from allah? Why does the all powerful need a book? Isnt that a contradiction? Now I would like to concentrate on the real mohammed. Not the mythical almost perfect farce. Is that a possibility from you or not. If not then no worries. I am used to muslims not being able to have that kind of conversation.
Why would Allah send a book? To have people get the true message that's how! The Quran has similar stories to the Bible, I know. But how would Muhammad know about the stories from the Bible? He didn't read their book nor could he as he was illiterate. The real Muhammad? The one I've been talking to you about WAS the real Muhammad...
@superfakerbros Its called verbal history my friend. Arabs have been passing down their history for centuries that way. Now the real mohamed I am talking about is the one without the messages from a mystical entity. Let concentrate on the facts. BTW: It makes no sense to write a book to spread your word if you are allah. Wouldnt you just use your power? Come on, this doesnt make logical sense and you know it.
Don't ask me why he didn't just do that. I'm not Allah. I mean, if a guy made a decision to change his company when it was already successful, you wouldn't know why. You would know that he just did.
@superfakerbros It sounds like you have all the answers from God. Then why are you communicating via Youtube. Shouldn't you be a able to telepathically communicate with me? Well? Maybe not.
@ThingsThatVexMe Nothing new, the same old stories is true statement. The prophet Mohamed never claimed he brought something new. Islam is the same teaching of Christ, Moses and all the prophets from the time of Adam.
You christians brought something new. Today God loves gays and lisbions.
What is the shame of Chrsitainty tomorrow? it just keeps changing.
@TheSaffyone All the desert religions as they were have no place in modern society. Islam, as it is practiced today, goes against democracy and freedom.
@ThingsThatVexMe You are totally wrong because you don't understand Islam and watching Pat doesn't help;
Islam agrees with democracy "Shura" and It support civil liberties such as choice of religion, previcy, and the freedom to move, trade etc.
No it doesn't support gay rights and it will never do. It guards the society from evil. Sharia "Gods' law" is well more advanced than any laws man can produce. It is a complete system.
@TheSaffyone You don't know what you are talking about. I have lived under sharia law. Saudi arabia is a great example of what happens if islam is allowed to govern a state. NO FREEDOM, but a great deal of hypocrisy. Islam is an antiquated belief system. Please save your, islam is the right path, for someone the doesn't know better.
@TheSaffyone Still blaming the west? What the fuck does the west have to do with it? Saudi Arabia is islam my friend. But they don't care what you think because they know it. Your prophet lived and died there so if that is not it then where? Like all muslims, you hate to admit how a real country under islam would be like. Go live there and then come back to tell me it is not islam.
@ThingsThatVexMe Yep , the Evil west is to blame. Ask your grand mother the British Empire how did they engineer the Saudi Family. There is even doubts that they are Muslims, some writers who lost their lives by saying the origin of the Saudi family is Arab Jewish.
What will the reaction of the USA government if the people in Najd and Hijaz "the original name" over through the Saudi family? Research on the action plans by your Government.
@TheSaffyone You are just jealous. Anyone who continuously blames someone over and over again is simply jealous. You are jealous because we are the greatest country in the world. We are as close to perfect as possible. Saudi arabia was a bunch of tribes over a bunch of oil. Arabs didn't even know what oil was. We gave those arabs wealth and power. Now you want to blame us? Have you even been there? Why do you talk about a place you have never been? They are fully modern now. So keep blaming.
@TheSaffyone Mate? So you live in the U.K? Hmmmm...but yet you hate the west. Interesting. Though the Saudi family may not be true practicing muslims, the country is. We help the saudi's because that is what allies do. We honor our commitments.
@TheSaffyone Invade? You mean like Turkey did to Cyprus in 74, or Iraq did to Kuwait? We have no interest in staying in the MI. And how the fuck do you know of our true interests? You have secret documents at hand? Truth is no one really knows what goes on behind the scenes. But I am confident that it is not a conspiracy. And you are wrong, muslims or the east are not our enemies. Just crazy terrorists. So are you in the UK?
@TheSaffyone Why don't you answer my question? Where are you from? I am in southern cyprus right now and I just made two cool new friend from Bahrain and Dubai. We were playing football in the pool when some drunk English pricks started saying shit to them. I stood up for my new friends. That is America. We stand up for people. Maybe it may not come out right, but we try. So Arabs are not our enemies. It is the crazies that have not evolved from 1431 that we have a problem with.
@ThingsThatVexMe I am from Yemen Arabia. I have been to the USA in end 1995- to mid 96. I have crossed from north west to souch east. From Washington State Seatle city down to new york city. I have been to chicago. I also visited Ohio and cleveland states. Despite I spent six months there, the time wasn't enough.
The British people are generally polite.
Nor the American people are our enmies. Our problem is with some racist objects that use Christianity in its war, such as Pat.
@TheSaffyone America is huge my friend. We are different but we are one. Pat is crazy and does not represent me. I believe in respecting peoples countries and culture. All I ask is that others do the same in the West.
@nour0004 3. They only care about what their god tells them. That is dangerous. And yes there are the ones that are peaceful. But they are the exception not the rule. What is the solution? Well, in my opinion, if you do not want to respect your host country's culture, laws, society by assimilation and adding a positive contribution, then you should be sent home. In addition, no more immigration from the ME should be allowed. I am saying this because I have seen it with my own eyes for years now.
@ThingsThatVexMe 1 - I don't disagree with what you just said above. All religions are just irrational. West is ahead of ME since religion lost its power over people except in churches. I think immigration should be allowed from ME only and only if the people are coming in are moderate and peacful. Most middle easterns in the US are educated and business oriented people. We need those kind of people, BUT not fucking mullas.
@nour0004 1. See...now we R having a real conversation without vulgarities. I agree, we must make it more difficult for anyone coming to the U.S. or Europe from the ME. We R allowing 2 many of the ME governments religious extremist exiles. I don't have a problem w/ the muslims that are truly peaceful.
@nour0004 2. The ones that have evolved from the violence in the quran and embraced the peaceful aspects. The ones that spend their time making a positive contribution to our society. The ones that do not impose their religion on us. These are the ones that should be allowed in our country. But in the meantime, how do we deal with the ones that do not do the aforementioned?
@ThingsThatVexMe This is the problem. As many Jews and Christians are born here and practicing their religion freely, so are Muslims. There are many who are born here. So, they are US citizens as you and me. However, the fact is this: small precentagae of the practicing Western Muslims are radical. I work with many practicing Muslims that are calm and as good people as Jews and Christians. The danger comes from people like Jihad Jane and other converts...
@nour0004 1. I would have to disagree. The ones that are truly peaceful are the ones that are a minority. Many just tolerate us until there is a majority of them. Then you will see a shift. History does repeat itself and if allowed in the U.S. and Europe it will repeat itself on us. Though born here, many are not loyal to the U.S. Actually, being loyal to the U.S. is against their belief system. I would describe it as a silent contempt for us and our why of life. Remember, U just work w/ them.
@nour0004 2. You really need to travel to a true muslim country to see what many want done in the U.S. I have lived with them there. I have seen islam in its true form and it comes in direct conflict with what we believe in the U.S. Blaming it on just the converts is a mistake to make. Who are the ones converting them? Other muslims.
@ThingsThatVexMe If it was in my hand, I would get rid the world of ALL religions. No Churches, no Mosques, and not any Temples (Jewish or non Jewish) allowed. No religous congregations allowed. Change human thought to believe in reason and focus on building humanity and progress.
@nour0004 3. Though I understand where you are coming from, we cannot force others to just abandon what they believe by force. Trade on extreme for another is not a solution. Remember, this country was founded on Christian beliefs. Christianity is a great part of our American culture. Though I don't believe in the mythical god, I do believe in maintaining our culture. Trying to stop celebrating Christmas or for saying Merry Christmas, using in God we trust on our money etc., is a huge mistake.
@ThingsThatVexMe well christmas is completely built upon pagan worship, christians incorporated christ to bring the pagans into christianity. it's a worship of the winter season and the sun, christmas trees and yule go back thousands of years in scandinavia and other european cultures. in god we trust was put on our money in 1957 to prove we aren't a communist atheist nation lol, so that does'nt count
@fullMetaLxMantis Cool. But like it said. Because i am not a believer in a mythical god does not mean we should destroy our traditions and culture. I am not sure why you are bent on that.
@nour0004 4. That is the part of Atheism I do not like. Why try to destroy a culture? What is wrong with putting up Christmas lights, trees, candles, saying God bless. I say God bless to people. Just because I do not believe in a mythical God doesn't mean I cannot have fun at Christmas. It doesnt mean I cannot treat people well. Pat does not represent Jesus. Jesus the man is worth admiring. Even as an Atheists. What he did was revolutionary.
@nour0004 5. I think we have reached a certain point in history where we can all agree to certain things. Y don't we just keep all the cultures the way they are. This is hard to explain, but I will try. Keep the West Christian in Culture, Israel Jewish, the ME countries can keep their Muslim culture and the rest of the world have their own cultures intact. I.e. , when I go to saudi I don't impose my beliefs and in turn when muslims come here they don't impose theirs. Hahaha. That would be nice.
@nour0004 6. But is it realistic? Who knows. But being PC all the time is not okay. Things have to be addressed. If Christians were calling for Jihad imposing their religion everywhere they go, I would have the same problem. But they are not. And please don't bring up some random Christian nuts. It is not the same to compare these religions. Jesus was about peace. Mohamed was about war. The rest is fluff. I am for keeping America Christian in culture but separated from state.
Muhammad was about peace too you idiot. We Muslims believe in Isa (Jesus) too but differently. Jihad isn't even a bad thing, it means "struggle in the way of god" like if someone tried to kill you and you defended yourself that's Jihad, or if someone attacked your religion that's Jihad, or if you're true to your religion that's Jihad.
@nour0004 7. Those that go to Europe or the U.S. should respect our culture as I do in their countries. If they are not willing to do so, they should not come here. I mean they are free too, but assimilate and contribute. Don't come here and try to change our way of life. We well always be free and will continue to fight against those that try to change that. Whomever they are.
@nour0004 1. Yes specifically converting. 2. Many not all. 3. Many not all. In addition too :"Those that go to Europe or the U.S. should respect our culture as I do in their countries. If they are not willing to do so, they should not come here.
@ThingsThatVexMe 1 - So, let's make sure I am clear about what you are trying to say: 1 - Changing other people's way of life is rooted in Muslims ideology, and they want to convert Westerns into Islam. 2 - Many, but not all, Western Muslims don't have loyalty to the US or the Western way of life. 3 - Many, but not all, Western Muslims, even if they are religious and peaceful, do not like us and will do harm to the the US and EU when right time comes.
@ThingsThatVexMe 2 - And the fourth statement: 4 - Those that go to Europe or the U.S. should respect our culture as I do in their countries. If they are not willing to do so, they should not come her.
Are you retarded? The only reason a TRUE Muslim would harm US or EU is if they did anything wrong or against them and trust me they have committed many violent acts against them.
That would be a really dumb choice as a ruler of a country or empire. People would revolt and rebellions would break out, people could leave the country and go somewhere else, etc.
The Quran isn't based upon the Bible idiot. The Bible is based on the corrupted copies of the Injil and the Zebur and the Tawrat. Not everything in the Bible is false because some parts are true but it's mixed in with falsehood. The Quran has stories but all of which are in the Quran aren't in the Bible or the stories in the Quran are different.
@TheSaffyone well during bush time America did a lot of Stupid thing's eg invade Iraq.
Saddam Hussain protected Christian's from Muslim's and by Destroying the Iraqi government Bush created a mess for Iraqi Christians a very bloody mess.
That is not Christian extremism that is finishing off what bush's father did.
@TheSaffyone Iraq was never a Christian land so how can Christians retake Iraq in a Crusade.
Crusade is when the Muslims took Christian land with force eg Egypt, Israel,Turkey,Syria and so on then Christians attempted to take it back and save the Christians from Muslim persecution.
As i said Bush wanted to finish what his father started in the Gulf war.
The whole point of his life seems to be to force people to turn away from God and Christ, and embrace instead fundementalist, anti-humanity, pro-greed christanity...
Gone are the days of moral self-responciblity... give him your money or he will tell god to assisinate you!
@MrGilles1990 That was the Ottomans that commited the crimes and not MUSLIMS. Ottomans also fought against muslims, they were hypocrites. Today you also find many hypocrite governments in the muslim world which also happen to be pro-american governments like the Saudi government, the egyptian roal etc. They suppres their population, so can you say it is muslims fault?
@MrGilles1990 No they were hypocrites becuse killing and exportion of people is very sinful in Islam. Meaning of HYPOCRITE: a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs. The Ottomans moved away from the the true islamic values and ethics.
@MrGilles1990 There i s a diffrent between a Turk and a Muslim. As I said earlier the Turks fights for their interests even against muslims(kurds) because they have deviated from the faith and furthemore they happen to be secularist, pro-american hypocrites.
@MrGilles1990 you are right Muslim is not a nationality and I did not claim that. Turk on the other hand is, Ottomans became Turks(nationals) thats where they deviated from true islamic principles and bacame korrupt and grief as western governments are. When they ruled according to islamic principles many chose to become muslims and europe had never seen such peace in its history. Watch this and lern: Ottoman Empire part 1
@MrGilles1990 No country was forced to embrace Islam. Today islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, alone in US 20000 americans convert to islam each year. However christianity sa we know was inforced upon people otherwise they would have been brutally murdered. And now they are trying to impose democracy.
@MrGilles1990 That is a great lie. They were not forced at all. Christianity was however imposede upun people. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, alone in US 20000 americans convert to islam each year. So who are forcing these people to convert??? it is the true religion
By all the reliable sources, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. It has been verified by many independent sources, many of which are listed below.
CNN World News ( 14 November 1997 Report)
World Christian Database ( 200-2005 Survey)
And, the number of adherents of Protestants and Catholics is decreasing. So, as people are accepting christianity, they are leaving it at a greater rate as reported in leading newspaper. The New York Times ( 25 Feb, 2008 Report)
@MrGilles1990 All of your claims have been false... I have proven that Islam is the fastes growing religion. I also have proven that the west is the rootcause of various of conflict which led to hundreds of mil deaths. The western polecies in Africa have also led to many conflict there by favoring one party, selling them wepon because of interests. But you are still contniuing making other false claims. You are a liar and I am not going to use more time on liars.
@MrGilles1990 Nowdays "Democratic Tuerkey" also fights muslims(the Kurds). Turkey also happens to be pro-american and US can keep their bases there.
USA claims Turkey and other puppet governments to be good friends of USA and in the same time, these goverments suppres their people and USA also uses these contries to do torture. These criminal hypocrites are the friends of US.
@MrGilles1990 Throughout 20th century alone hundreds millions of innocent people have died because western policies which led to small and major wars and now the are killing planet earth with their grief, pollution. So yes, with the profs we have, many western governments should be wiped from the face of the earth but not the innocent ones.
@MrGilles1990 Prophet Muhammed (PBBU) freed slaves and fought for their rights.
"An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action" Prophet Muhammed(PBUH)
He must have ment US because I can´t recongnise anything of this that should have anything to do with Isla. Its all lies but there are unfortunatly still many ignorant americans who belmieve in such crap. I recomend all viewers to study islam from its sources tha t represent islam.
What Make you to Lie ? Islam is Not A Relgion ? Read the Quran Understand it what God Commends whole Humanity not Muslims He is God only Quran Proofs Jeses christ PBUH Moses PBUH Soloman PBUH DAWOOD ABRAHAM and all Messangers and also ALLAH realved in QURAN that he Begets not nor he was Begtton and there is no Comparaible unto Him The Freedom you saying gaven in Chirstainity we have seen in Afghanistan & in many other Muslim countries where US is try to say truth or seat quite OK PAT
Muhammad ibn Jābir al-Harrānī al-Battānī -- Formulated many important trigonometric identities.
Al-Jahiz -- Developed a theory of evolution a thousand years before Darwin.
Fazlur Khan -- Designed the Sears Tower and John Hancock Center.
Ibrahim B. Syed -- Member of the American College of Radiology, the American Institute of Chemists, the British Institute of Physics, and the Royal Society of Health and was also a former Professor of Nuclear Medicine.
Also, to prove a point, there's Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan, a US Army Specialist who was killed in Iraq and was awarded a Bronze Star and Purple Heart.
The assumption that following a certain faith would somehow make people less intelligent makes you sound horribly ignorant.
you are probably right. I don't believe Jesus established his religion. his Apostles did after he died. But i Strongly believe that Jesus want us to realize that there is another way of living and that is through peace and love. Not killing, greed, nor criticizing like this piece of shit Robertson.
How can Pat criticize Islam when US, found under Christianity, kill innocent people and start illegal wars against de Mid East for Oil?
Pat is not a real Christian. Hes a brain washing fake
well Jesus never established his religion. His Apostles did after his death. I believe Jesus want us to believe that there is another way of living and that is through peace and love to yourself and your surroundings. Not killing, greed for power nor criticizing others like this Piece of shit Robertson.
How can Pat criticize Islam when Americans, founded under Christianity, kill innocent people and start pre-emptive wars against the Mid. East. Pat is not a real Christian. he's a fake
Good point I hope he's in the bus when they do that way it'll kill him and them and that will be a handfull of religious nut jobs I don't have to worry about
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(They intend to put out the Light of Allah with their mouths. But Allah will bring His Light to perfection even though the disbelievers hate (it).) Al-Saaf (61:8).”
alelmnoor 1 year ago
dude don't say much before they come for u
ravi20tewari 1 year ago
This is about the only time I've agreed with Pat Robertson lol.
SwanseaCityNo12 1 year ago
Islam is not a religion, nor its only a political system. Its a complete way of life.
ovaisreza 1 year ago
@ovaisreza a way of life that is hell bent on forcing itself onto the entire world population..whoever dares say no will be brutally murdered.
subs367 1 year ago
@subs367 I find it amazing that its you who is in our countries forcing if their is any forcing going on but you blame us. I don't blame you are problem is you are a Brit, sun sat on your empire too soon for you to bask in any glory, if there was any to begin with.
ovaisreza 1 year ago
So interesting...just today I was talking to a friend a/b Islam. I said "I don't believe Islam is a religion as much as it is a religious political organization". (I love to study Islam & read the Qur'an. Over time it became apparent to me that Islam is political)
I'd never heard this commentary by Robertson- yet I had already come to the same conclusion. I found this video by typing in "How to read the Qur'an" so I don't think it's by accident that I found this video today.
GenevaPilgrim 1 year ago
@GenevaPilgrim Islam is not politics but there is politics in Islam. Meaning Islam is not a branch of politics neither politics is a branch of Islam. Having said that, there is politics in Islam. Islam doesn't stop there. It is a complete system. Economic, legal, social, religous, education including sex education, idology, theology, civil rights, democracy, military, foreign affairs, public relation, self decipline, daily affairs, personal hygine and the list can go on and on. It is complete.
TheSaffyone 1 year ago
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The pot calling the kettle black.
lagnaf007 1 year ago
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What a fucking idiot.
coolwhipspecial 1 year ago
If you convert islam you belive on moses,jesus and follow there laws how you have to live on earth what you can eat and what thing you cant eat,Honest,clever,educated peoples know christian faith based on lot of error and if you refuse lord book then we human have singel ticket to fire only because we must follow laws of our creater and creater of earth,universe,heavens and civilizations among them,We are not on party on earth those who belive that soon they shell know truth on last breath,
abbekhan 1 year ago
pork,adultry,gambling,naked on beaches etc forbiden in moses book but its ok in my new book,
Show me where jesus said theses all things fact is new book is not a complet law book like moses book and jesus was from jew family he was sent for jews not another new faith,SO YOU SAY ISLAM IS NOT RELIGION i think wise inteligent,honest educated peoples have no choice but convert to islam,Where you shell go idoletry ? its strange jews dont belive on jesus and christians dont belive on moses laws so
abbekhan 1 year ago
IF islam is not a religion then is christian faith is religion?
Well islam have complet laws from A to Z how you shell eat,how you shell shawer,how you shell sleep,how you have to live on earth BUTjesus never said any book i bring new religion for jews or non jews
Jesus never said cross is holy and fat hairy man is holy simbol of my birthday,
Jesus never said all books and prophets before me they lie about one lord but me i say TRINITY 3 gods father son and holy ghost,
Jesus never said
abbekhan 1 year ago
If you look at the fundamental evangelicals, then there are in fact similarities between fundamental Islam and Chrisitanity....
spiminator 1 year ago
pat robertson is an idiot
chopath 1 year ago
Funny how Muslims say, 'Anyone that calls Islam Evil should be beheaded!', that kinda says it all about that very messed up religion!
phucoff1 1 year ago
@phucoff1 are you trying to tell me your religion is peacefull.give me a break and read history of christianity from 1200 AD to 1800.find out about witch bible.40,000 innocent women died through out europe please find out there crime.befor calling islam a vilent religion.
TheAdam9749 1 year ago
@TheAdam9749
did i say Christianity is all peaceful? no i never. i just hate it how Muslims try to say how peaceful Islam is when it isn't, as its got pure hate and evil written all over it.
phucoff1 1 year ago
@TheAdam9749 My friend. Those that kill cease to be true followers of Jesus. In islam, it is okay to kill. Simple as that.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
Islam can be fucked up, there's no debate there, but all religions have their own nasty history of hypocrisy and bloodshed. Pat's so quick to call for war against Iran, I wonder what Jesus would say to that? Honestly believe what you want, but you cannot separate yourself from the world around you, actions have consequences and if you become so deluded through faith you can commit the worst evils imaginable and somehow come up with a way to JUSTIFY yourself.
Example: Conquistadors and Aztecs
Manatizzle89 1 year ago
islam belongs to satan
TheJasonking 1 year ago
What hogwash!
Nebulazeon 1 year ago
God is Santa Claus for adults. peace.
richi3mass3 1 year ago
Wow pat. can you please show us some references from the Bible which liberates those ,1,900+ women who are raped every day in your US? Or to make easy for you how Christianity helps in stopping millions of robbery taking place in your country? Frankly Bible has no answers to your problems. According to Jimmy Swagart there are 5 million drunkards in US! what ist he Biblical way to liberate them, compare it with the Quránic law how to deal with these problems and get your society liberated
loveALLAAH 1 year ago
There is no god but us. And some of you are making me look bad.
BluntRapture 1 year ago
The Quran is a record of the exact words revealed by God through the Angel Gabriel to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). It was memorized by Muhammad (peace be upon him) and then dictated to his companions, and written down by scribes, who crosschecked it during his lifetime. Not one word of its 114 Surahs, has been changed over the centuries, so that the Quran is in every detail the unique and miraculous text which was revealed to Muhammad (peace be upon him) fourteen centuries ago.
TheSuperZARA 1 year ago
Islam may seem exotic or even extreme in the modern world. Perhaps this is because religion does not dominate everyday life in the West today, whereas Muslims have religion always uppermost in their minds, and make no division between secular and sacred. They believe that the Divine Law, the Shari'a, should be taken very seriously, which is why issues related to religion are still so important.
TheSuperZARA 1 year ago
Sadly this fool doesn't realize that Christianity has killed more than all the diseases combined. From the dozen Crusades to the Salem Witch Trials, the number of people killed in the name of "god" is countless.
Unfortunately, like any other living organism, when you die.. Its over. Sorry I don't buy into the eternal life bullshit. Only a person with a huge ego would believe he or she can live forever. You expire and its over. Deal with it.
SexSteakSoda 1 year ago
this is total bullshit. this guy is an idiot. i can't even begin to understand how this makes any sense in this guys mind. some people are so ignorant....
Videogamer523 1 year ago
That is extremely funny. "They want everybody live under there laws and there customs..." sounds a lot like America
Also Islam says Free a Slave. Christianity says make the children of your slaves, slaves. And every generation of that slave will be a slave and an israeli can never be a slave. Psht.
FATAL12SKILLZ 1 year ago
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spiz3y 1 year ago
@spiz3y So it is better to be a slave to capitalism and a slave to material things and a slave to this corrupt democratic system. But i can not be a submitter to the religion of the One God and a slave to the One God? Your a slave to whether you acknowledge it or not and you will be returned to him to answer.
FATAL12SKILLZ 1 year ago
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spiz3y 1 year ago
Aren't all religions based on a deathwish - Christianity also? Provide evidence of your beliefs - however crazy they might be and maybe you will get somewhere!
bigguitar22 1 year ago
U know Pat, by this day who are still denying Islam? It is the humans and djinns. Other creatures is with Islam.
boretobe 1 year ago
Go to hell Pat Robertson who are you to say that islam is not a relgion it is so a relgion the second biggest one in the world soon to be within a decade the number one relgion hitler was christion does that mean all christions want to kill the jews
123zero123abc123 1 year ago
what do you want islam or illuminati???? fucked old man this guy never bowed to god in his life why jugde punk go and wash your dirty ass
islam=peace ...illuminati=satan=king of evil
mak4lyf2 1 year ago
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spiz3y 1 year ago
@spiz3y
That's not Jihad, you idiot. Jihad is many things such as if a serial killer tried to kill you and your family but you defended yourself that's Jihad, if someone attacked your religion and you defended it that's Jihad, if you fought for your country that's Jiahd. Jihad means "struggle in the way of god".
superfakerbros 1 year ago
say it like it is.
israelmaven1 1 year ago
why christianity IS MOST LIKELY to be from the devil..
- christians produce the most atheists and anti-God offspring
- christians manufacture and profit the most from building destructive weapons and killing machines
- christians engage in and fight the most wars in the world
- christians are the ones who horribly horribly gassed millions of jews to death right in their own backyard
= by their fruits you will know them =
ScaryMuslim 1 year ago
hahhahahha LOL yeh thats right Pat Roberson is one son of a whore bitch and he has proven he is one by his fucked up childish comments
IslamRulesTheWorld1 1 year ago
FRUITS OF CHRISTIANITY
- atheism - general Godlessness
- porn - child porn - adultery glorifying TV
- world wars - weapons of mass destruction
- open fornication - gambling casinos
- alcoholism - jew gassings
- treating blacks like cattle
- 100,000,000 people killed in just 100 years!
ScaryMuslim 1 year ago
@ScaryMuslim And what has come from islam? Peace? I think not. Islam is still in the 1400s. Blacks like cattle? Apparently u haven't lived in the ME. In Saudi Arabia they treat the Palestinians and Pakis as cattle. Weapons of mass D? Well...U would use it if U had them. Porn/ child porn? U have them in the ME. The worst porn I have seen was Paki porn in Saudi Arabia. I threw up in my mouth. 100,000,000? Alcoholism? Jew killing? Muslims have done them all. So what are U trying to prove?
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
" a political system bent on world domination"
Hmmm. That sounds a lot like the catholic church. Anyone remember the crusades? or colonialism? Subjugation is a big word for ya there, Pat. You remember how it was applied to native americans and enslaved africans in this country? You sure about "your" religion being the only true path to peace?
Because personally, it sounds to me like you're full of shit.
scbluesman13 1 year ago
I hate to say it but he has a point.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
We dont have to listen to Pat. He is big Liar
westerdam 1 year ago
Theres no such thing as a true religion. How is such an idea even possible? How would you subjectively know which is correct? All are essentially the same. It boggles the mind how these people think that their faith is "true".
friedelt 1 year ago
its a cult..
SomeRandomDude00 1 year ago
@SomeRandomDude00 christianity is just as equal of a cult as islam. What is the difference between a religion and a cult? Its based upon time. Cults can break apart sometimes very easily. Religions last a little longer. But there is no real difference.
friedelt 1 year ago
@friedelt Who the hell said i care about christianity?? All i know is that they'r not bugging my life in any way....
SomeRandomDude00 1 year ago
pat ? u still alive? lol
belardo80 1 year ago
Fuck Pat Robertson AND the Fucking Jesus Christ. In the name of fucking Jesus christ millions of Jews got murdered during past 2000 years.... now it is OUR time to destroy those mother fucking pinked ass fanatic christians. ... .hahahahah
nour0004 1 year ago
@nour0004 Don't you believe in Jesus too??? Wow...you need to follow your own religion. Good luck trying to kill us.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe uuuuhhhhh, actually, your blood is filthy with bigs urine. So, we will not even dirty our hands with it.
You are in decline and we are happy to see it....lol
nour0004 1 year ago
@nour0004 What is bigs urine??? What era are you from?? Lol. Bigs urine? Very silly stuff, but expected. In decline? I don't think so, but like I said before...good luck trying to defeat us.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe
"good luck trying to defeat us" ?? As I said your blood is filthy with pig's urine, and your women fuck with Arabs in Dubai and Egypt. Soooo, there is no need fo US "trying to defeat you", the current U.S government is doing good job getting rid humanity of your evile.
nour0004 1 year ago
@nour0004 Well at least you corrected your grammar. You have way too much hate in you. I guess that is the peace muslims keep talking about.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe
So much hate? It is your religion that caused the murder of estimated 23 million Jews during past 2000 years. I do not know about you lady, but your fake god is obviously false.
nour0004 1 year ago
@nour0004 I am not sure what religion you like I am, but let me make it clear. I don't believe in any of the desert religions. But islam is a real threat to our way of life in the West. The other religions have no real control or threat to our way of life. So, sharmuta, do you have something real to add other than trollish rants?
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe
Kuuuusss umek. "islam is a real threat" ??? you are threatened by islam for a simple reason. YOU have NO way of life. The rest of the world they know where they stand (including towel heads). But you, I wouldn't be surpised if you are a fag. I am sure you can use bible to justify becoming a fag. You can justify ANYTHING with bible since it is corrupt.
nour0004 1 year ago
@nour0004 Sharmuta... you have not added anything new. Why don't you use the brain allah gave you and try to make some sense. Is the bible corrupt?? IF that is what you like, but remember, all the stories found in the bible are in the quran. So if the bible is corrupt, so is the quran. Try to use logic in your response. BTW: Its funny you use the fage comment. Where do you think the most gay porn is downloaded? San Fran? Nope. Saudi Arabia. I bet you didn't know that.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe ...hahahah... what the fuck is "fage" ??? learn to spell before trying to say anything in Arabic. Your fruite fly brain can't comprehend more than the word "sharmuta"...Let me tell you this in Arabic... "Kus umek, we ra7 aneek ukhtek 3ala sadir umek" ... hahaha. I have no reason to defend Saudis or any of the towel heads. I hate them more than anyone else. All Ibrahamic religions are fucked up. And, yes, Christianity is violent since they murdered 23 million Jews.
nour0004 1 year ago
@nour0004 So if U don't like the "towel heads" why are U so upset. Why are you defending them and trying to troll me? I mean, U can call me what U want all day long. I really don't care. Seriously, I don't lose any sleep over U calling me fag or whatever else you want to call me. It just sounds to me that you really cannot have a real conversation with anyone so you use vulgarities to make a point. I am not upset at all. I find it sad that all you have is hate in you. What kind of life is that.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe No body is trying to troll you. This is the deal. NO religion is rational. Whatever claims that come from any religious fanatic such as Robertson is questionable and they do not have credibilty to make such strong claims against others.
nour0004 1 year ago
@nour0004 1. Finally...we can talk about something. I totally agree. Pat Robertson and the 700 club are crazy. I don't believe in the desert religions either, but I have lived in Saudi Arabia for 15+ years and I can say that what he is saying has some truth to it. Just because pat is crazy does not mean he does not say the truth sometimes. You must understand that islam is not just a relgion like Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism etc. It is a political system. Actually, it is how Christianity
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe 2. used to be long ago but worse in many ways. It is worse because the actual founder was a murdering, conquering warlord. That is the biggest difference. The Jews, Christians and the other religions are not imposing themselves into people's lives anymore. We have a separation of church and state. But many muslims are bent on changing our way of life and that is what i have a problem with. You must understand that many don't care or respect you, me or the country they are in.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe
The founder wasn't a murdering conquering warlord. How can you call someone who slept in a low quality bed, who lived in a low quality home, who never ate to his heart's content, who spent most of his wealth with his people and did many other honorable things. What do you mean by many muslims? You mean those terrorists who shouldn't even be called muslims? I respect anyone who respects me.
superfakerbros 1 year ago
@superfakerbros Yeah...& you have proven to show respect? And I do say many, because I have met many. Arab culture is different than islam. So lets clarify. Mohamed was not a peaceful caring man. He made up a religion to solidify his power. That can all be proven in the quran itself. Now in terms are being an idiot, that title i bestow on you. The quran is based on the Torah and Bible. You are the one in denial. Mohamed took the existing religions and made his own. Nothing new. Same old stories.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe
Muhammad was the only person in the world close to perfection. He didn't create power through fear, unless you consider killing those who attacked them fear. He didn't make up the religion, heck he didn't even write the Quran. The Quran isn't based on the Torah nor your Bible. The Quran were messages from the Allah just like the Tawrat, the Injil, the Zabur, etc. but those books are lost and gone. The newer ones have some teachings from the books but it's mixed with lies.
superfakerbros 1 year ago
@superfakerbros Believe this all you like. Fairytales are just that, fairytales. Then how do you explain the same old stories in the quran? The word from allah? Why does the all powerful need a book? Isnt that a contradiction? Now I would like to concentrate on the real mohammed. Not the mythical almost perfect farce. Is that a possibility from you or not. If not then no worries. I am used to muslims not being able to have that kind of conversation.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe
Why would Allah send a book? To have people get the true message that's how! The Quran has similar stories to the Bible, I know. But how would Muhammad know about the stories from the Bible? He didn't read their book nor could he as he was illiterate. The real Muhammad? The one I've been talking to you about WAS the real Muhammad...
superfakerbros 1 year ago
@superfakerbros Its called verbal history my friend. Arabs have been passing down their history for centuries that way. Now the real mohamed I am talking about is the one without the messages from a mystical entity. Let concentrate on the facts. BTW: It makes no sense to write a book to spread your word if you are allah. Wouldnt you just use your power? Come on, this doesnt make logical sense and you know it.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe
Don't ask me why he didn't just do that. I'm not Allah. I mean, if a guy made a decision to change his company when it was already successful, you wouldn't know why. You would know that he just did.
superfakerbros 1 year ago
@superfakerbros For someone as omnipresent as yourself, this really make no sense.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe
The ones you read have some truth in them but also have words rewritten or changed or added or took out.
superfakerbros 1 year ago
@superfakerbros It sounds like you have all the answers from God. Then why are you communicating via Youtube. Shouldn't you be a able to telepathically communicate with me? Well? Maybe not.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe
Are you that retarded? I have Allah's words in my own home, it's in the Quran. I don't have weekly talks with him.
superfakerbros 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe Nothing new, the same old stories is true statement. The prophet Mohamed never claimed he brought something new. Islam is the same teaching of Christ, Moses and all the prophets from the time of Adam.
You christians brought something new. Today God loves gays and lisbions.
What is the shame of Chrsitainty tomorrow? it just keeps changing.
TheSaffyone 1 year ago
@TheSaffyone All the desert religions as they were have no place in modern society. Islam, as it is practiced today, goes against democracy and freedom.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe You are totally wrong because you don't understand Islam and watching Pat doesn't help;
Islam agrees with democracy "Shura" and It support civil liberties such as choice of religion, previcy, and the freedom to move, trade etc.
No it doesn't support gay rights and it will never do. It guards the society from evil. Sharia "Gods' law" is well more advanced than any laws man can produce. It is a complete system.
No country today governed by shria law.
TheSaffyone 1 year ago
@TheSaffyone You don't know what you are talking about. I have lived under sharia law. Saudi arabia is a great example of what happens if islam is allowed to govern a state. NO FREEDOM, but a great deal of hypocrisy. Islam is an antiquated belief system. Please save your, islam is the right path, for someone the doesn't know better.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe Saudi Arabia? it is the furthrest away from Islam.
Put it this way with Saudi Arabia, it is the milk cow for the west.
TheSaffyone 1 year ago
@TheSaffyone Still blaming the west? What the fuck does the west have to do with it? Saudi Arabia is islam my friend. But they don't care what you think because they know it. Your prophet lived and died there so if that is not it then where? Like all muslims, you hate to admit how a real country under islam would be like. Go live there and then come back to tell me it is not islam.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe Yep , the Evil west is to blame. Ask your grand mother the British Empire how did they engineer the Saudi Family. There is even doubts that they are Muslims, some writers who lost their lives by saying the origin of the Saudi family is Arab Jewish.
What will the reaction of the USA government if the people in Najd and Hijaz "the original name" over through the Saudi family? Research on the action plans by your Government.
America and Saudi Arabia are the Anti-Christ.
TheSaffyone 1 year ago
@TheSaffyone You are just jealous. Anyone who continuously blames someone over and over again is simply jealous. You are jealous because we are the greatest country in the world. We are as close to perfect as possible. Saudi arabia was a bunch of tribes over a bunch of oil. Arabs didn't even know what oil was. We gave those arabs wealth and power. Now you want to blame us? Have you even been there? Why do you talk about a place you have never been? They are fully modern now. So keep blaming.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe I know Saudi Arabia and I have been there mate.
Just do a bit of historical reading. No you didn't give anybody anything, you are looking for your own interests.
No I am not jealous, America and the western civilization is in its last legs.
The saudi family is not wanted, they are there because America protects them.
So you are protecting the source of extreme Islam who you claim you a re fighting. Wonder
TheSaffyone 1 year ago
@TheSaffyone Mate? So you live in the U.K? Hmmmm...but yet you hate the west. Interesting. Though the Saudi family may not be true practicing muslims, the country is. We help the saudi's because that is what allies do. We honor our commitments.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe No I don't hate the west, but the west still thinking it can invade the east. "The same old story"
You don't honer anything but your interests.
Don't you find it odd, the Saudi family finance Salafiah which created binladen then you come to aid the financial provider of your enemy.
Ok
Why Bush family has shares with Binladen family? Yet you make all the Muslim world your enemy. Why?
Hidden agenda
TheSaffyone 1 year ago
@TheSaffyone Invade? You mean like Turkey did to Cyprus in 74, or Iraq did to Kuwait? We have no interest in staying in the MI. And how the fuck do you know of our true interests? You have secret documents at hand? Truth is no one really knows what goes on behind the scenes. But I am confident that it is not a conspiracy. And you are wrong, muslims or the east are not our enemies. Just crazy terrorists. So are you in the UK?
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe Like the blocked content considering Saudi Arabia for 9/11 investigation.
TheSaffyone 1 year ago
@TheSaffyone Why don't you answer my question? Where are you from? I am in southern cyprus right now and I just made two cool new friend from Bahrain and Dubai. We were playing football in the pool when some drunk English pricks started saying shit to them. I stood up for my new friends. That is America. We stand up for people. Maybe it may not come out right, but we try. So Arabs are not our enemies. It is the crazies that have not evolved from 1431 that we have a problem with.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe I am from Yemen Arabia. I have been to the USA in end 1995- to mid 96. I have crossed from north west to souch east. From Washington State Seatle city down to new york city. I have been to chicago. I also visited Ohio and cleveland states. Despite I spent six months there, the time wasn't enough.
The British people are generally polite.
Nor the American people are our enmies. Our problem is with some racist objects that use Christianity in its war, such as Pat.
TheSaffyone 1 year ago
@TheSaffyone America is huge my friend. We are different but we are one. Pat is crazy and does not represent me. I believe in respecting peoples countries and culture. All I ask is that others do the same in the West.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@nour0004 3. They only care about what their god tells them. That is dangerous. And yes there are the ones that are peaceful. But they are the exception not the rule. What is the solution? Well, in my opinion, if you do not want to respect your host country's culture, laws, society by assimilation and adding a positive contribution, then you should be sent home. In addition, no more immigration from the ME should be allowed. I am saying this because I have seen it with my own eyes for years now.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe 1 - I don't disagree with what you just said above. All religions are just irrational. West is ahead of ME since religion lost its power over people except in churches. I think immigration should be allowed from ME only and only if the people are coming in are moderate and peacful. Most middle easterns in the US are educated and business oriented people. We need those kind of people, BUT not fucking mullas.
nour0004 1 year ago
@nour0004 1. See...now we R having a real conversation without vulgarities. I agree, we must make it more difficult for anyone coming to the U.S. or Europe from the ME. We R allowing 2 many of the ME governments religious extremist exiles. I don't have a problem w/ the muslims that are truly peaceful.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@nour0004 2. The ones that have evolved from the violence in the quran and embraced the peaceful aspects. The ones that spend their time making a positive contribution to our society. The ones that do not impose their religion on us. These are the ones that should be allowed in our country. But in the meantime, how do we deal with the ones that do not do the aforementioned?
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe This is the problem. As many Jews and Christians are born here and practicing their religion freely, so are Muslims. There are many who are born here. So, they are US citizens as you and me. However, the fact is this: small precentagae of the practicing Western Muslims are radical. I work with many practicing Muslims that are calm and as good people as Jews and Christians. The danger comes from people like Jihad Jane and other converts...
nour0004 1 year ago
@nour0004 1. I would have to disagree. The ones that are truly peaceful are the ones that are a minority. Many just tolerate us until there is a majority of them. Then you will see a shift. History does repeat itself and if allowed in the U.S. and Europe it will repeat itself on us. Though born here, many are not loyal to the U.S. Actually, being loyal to the U.S. is against their belief system. I would describe it as a silent contempt for us and our why of life. Remember, U just work w/ them.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@nour0004 2. You really need to travel to a true muslim country to see what many want done in the U.S. I have lived with them there. I have seen islam in its true form and it comes in direct conflict with what we believe in the U.S. Blaming it on just the converts is a mistake to make. Who are the ones converting them? Other muslims.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe If it was in my hand, I would get rid the world of ALL religions. No Churches, no Mosques, and not any Temples (Jewish or non Jewish) allowed. No religous congregations allowed. Change human thought to believe in reason and focus on building humanity and progress.
nour0004 1 year ago
@nour0004 3. Though I understand where you are coming from, we cannot force others to just abandon what they believe by force. Trade on extreme for another is not a solution. Remember, this country was founded on Christian beliefs. Christianity is a great part of our American culture. Though I don't believe in the mythical god, I do believe in maintaining our culture. Trying to stop celebrating Christmas or for saying Merry Christmas, using in God we trust on our money etc., is a huge mistake.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe well christmas is completely built upon pagan worship, christians incorporated christ to bring the pagans into christianity. it's a worship of the winter season and the sun, christmas trees and yule go back thousands of years in scandinavia and other european cultures. in god we trust was put on our money in 1957 to prove we aren't a communist atheist nation lol, so that does'nt count
fullMetaLxMantis 1 year ago
@fullMetaLxMantis Cool. But like it said. Because i am not a believer in a mythical god does not mean we should destroy our traditions and culture. I am not sure why you are bent on that.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@nour0004 4. That is the part of Atheism I do not like. Why try to destroy a culture? What is wrong with putting up Christmas lights, trees, candles, saying God bless. I say God bless to people. Just because I do not believe in a mythical God doesn't mean I cannot have fun at Christmas. It doesnt mean I cannot treat people well. Pat does not represent Jesus. Jesus the man is worth admiring. Even as an Atheists. What he did was revolutionary.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@nour0004 5. I think we have reached a certain point in history where we can all agree to certain things. Y don't we just keep all the cultures the way they are. This is hard to explain, but I will try. Keep the West Christian in Culture, Israel Jewish, the ME countries can keep their Muslim culture and the rest of the world have their own cultures intact. I.e. , when I go to saudi I don't impose my beliefs and in turn when muslims come here they don't impose theirs. Hahaha. That would be nice.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@nour0004 6. But is it realistic? Who knows. But being PC all the time is not okay. Things have to be addressed. If Christians were calling for Jihad imposing their religion everywhere they go, I would have the same problem. But they are not. And please don't bring up some random Christian nuts. It is not the same to compare these religions. Jesus was about peace. Mohamed was about war. The rest is fluff. I am for keeping America Christian in culture but separated from state.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe
Muhammad was about peace too you idiot. We Muslims believe in Isa (Jesus) too but differently. Jihad isn't even a bad thing, it means "struggle in the way of god" like if someone tried to kill you and you defended yourself that's Jihad, or if someone attacked your religion that's Jihad, or if you're true to your religion that's Jihad.
superfakerbros 1 year ago
@nour0004 7. Those that go to Europe or the U.S. should respect our culture as I do in their countries. If they are not willing to do so, they should not come here. I mean they are free too, but assimilate and contribute. Don't come here and try to change our way of life. We well always be free and will continue to fight against those that try to change that. Whomever they are.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe 1 - OK, so if you don't mind, I would like to summarize your concern:
1 - Changing other people's way of life is rooted in Muslims ideology.
2 - Western Muslims don't have loyalty to the US or the Western way of life.
3 - Western Muslims, even if they are religious and peaceful, do not like us and will do harm to the the US and EU when right time comes.
Three statements express your view accurately?
nour0004 1 year ago
@nour0004 1. Yes specifically converting. 2. Many not all. 3. Many not all. In addition too :"Those that go to Europe or the U.S. should respect our culture as I do in their countries. If they are not willing to do so, they should not come here.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
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@ThingsThatVexMe 1 - So, let's make sure I am clear about what you are trying to say: 1 - Changing other people's way of life is rooted in Muslims ideology, and they want to convert Westerns into Islam. 2 - Many, but not all, Western Muslims don't have loyalty to the US or the Western way of life. 3 - Many, but not all, Western Muslims, even if they are religious and peaceful, do not like us and will do harm to the the US and EU when right time comes.
nour0004 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe 2 - And the fourth statement: 4 - Those that go to Europe or the U.S. should respect our culture as I do in their countries. If they are not willing to do so, they should not come her.
Do those four statements represent your view?
nour0004 1 year ago
@nour0004 Jesus, yes, I just wrote that. The suspense is killing me. I am sure you have a grand explanation coming. Can't wait.
ThingsThatVexMe 1 year ago
@nour0004
Are you retarded? The only reason a TRUE Muslim would harm US or EU is if they did anything wrong or against them and trust me they have committed many violent acts against them.
superfakerbros 1 year ago
@nour0004
That would be a really dumb choice as a ruler of a country or empire. People would revolt and rebellions would break out, people could leave the country and go somewhere else, etc.
superfakerbros 1 year ago
@ThingsThatVexMe
The Quran isn't based upon the Bible idiot. The Bible is based on the corrupted copies of the Injil and the Zebur and the Tawrat. Not everything in the Bible is false because some parts are true but it's mixed in with falsehood. The Quran has stories but all of which are in the Quran aren't in the Bible or the stories in the Quran are different.
superfakerbros 1 year ago
This man is the most idiot brain washer. Christian extremism in its stupidest format.
Wake up stupid bitches
TheSaffyone 1 year ago
@TheSaffyone Christian extremist say stupid things and bother you.
Muslim extremist blow you up!
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
@MrGilles1990 Words kill. This man has powerful men in the American administration especially during bush time listening to him. Yes his words kill.
TheSaffyone 1 year ago
@TheSaffyone well during bush time America did a lot of Stupid thing's eg invade Iraq.
Saddam Hussain protected Christian's from Muslim's and by Destroying the Iraqi government Bush created a mess for Iraqi Christians a very bloody mess.
That is not Christian extremism that is finishing off what bush's father did.
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
@MrGilles1990
It is a cruse war.
TheSaffyone 1 year ago
@TheSaffyone Cruse war??
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
@MrGilles1990 I meant a crusade. Thanks for spotting it.
TheSaffyone 1 year ago
@TheSaffyone Iraq was never a Christian land so how can Christians retake Iraq in a Crusade.
Crusade is when the Muslims took Christian land with force eg Egypt, Israel,Turkey,Syria and so on then Christians attempted to take it back and save the Christians from Muslim persecution.
As i said Bush wanted to finish what his father started in the Gulf war.
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
@MrGilles1990
There isn't much to say to someone who refuse to use reasoning.
TheSaffyone 1 year ago
@TheSaffyone Reasoning with a Muslim that's like a Jew wanting to reason with Hitler.
We do try to reason but it does not work with sand monkey's who think it is still the 11nth century.
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
@MrGilles1990 It is not you, it is listening to too much Pat.
Get the fuck off pink bitch
TheSaffyone 1 year ago
@TheSaffyone "pink bitch" trust a Muslim to go down to that level stupidity.
Well if you want to go and swear and make childish comments your looking in the wrong place.
Just wondering "pink bitch" why do you say that???
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
thta a big true!!!
1234mirko 1 year ago
This is what you call an Idiot
TheSaffyone 1 year ago
Speak brother, in Jesus name! they're forceful, sexist, murderers!
TriniArabGirl 1 year ago
"a political system bent on world domination."
And what he does is any different?
The whole point of his life seems to be to force people to turn away from God and Christ, and embrace instead fundementalist, anti-humanity, pro-greed christanity...
Gone are the days of moral self-responciblity... give him your money or he will tell god to assisinate you!
Coryashire 1 year ago
Islam does not alloqw to wipe of whole cities(Hiroshima, Nagasaki)
Islam does not allow to wipe of a whole population(natives indians)
Islam does not allow torture(Guantanomo)
Islam does not allow slavery (slavery and opression of africans
Islam does not allow pornography, casino...and I can go on and on and on
HV25 1 year ago
@HV25 you were enslaving the africans way before we were!
Islam allows the mass murder of Armenian Christians
Islam allows torture in Iran,Saudi Arabia, and many more!
Islam allows slavery (that's how Muhammed became so powerful)
Islam allows the rape of women.
please your embarrassing your self with your hypocrisy.
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
@MrGilles1990 Lie
HV25 1 year ago
@HV25 no it is history if you dont like that's tough.
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
@MrGilles1990 LIES
HV25 1 year ago
@HV25 you deny the Armenian genocide in WW1??
that is like denying the the Holocaust.
In my country you can get charged for that.
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
@MrGilles1990 That was the Ottomans that commited the crimes and not MUSLIMS. Ottomans also fought against muslims, they were hypocrites. Today you also find many hypocrite governments in the muslim world which also happen to be pro-american governments like the Saudi government, the egyptian roal etc. They suppres their population, so can you say it is muslims fault?
HV25 1 year ago
@HV25 The Ottomans were Muslim Fact. Im not stupid OK
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
@MrGilles1990 No they were hypocrites becuse killing and exportion of people is very sinful in Islam. Meaning of HYPOCRITE: a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs. The Ottomans moved away from the the true islamic values and ethics.
HV25 1 year ago
@HV25 yes the Turks did not kill enough Christians in your view.
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
@MrGilles1990 There i s a diffrent between a Turk and a Muslim. As I said earlier the Turks fights for their interests even against muslims(kurds) because they have deviated from the faith and furthemore they happen to be secularist, pro-american hypocrites.
HV25 1 year ago
@HV25 Muslim not a nationality your logic is an epic fail.
Without the Turks Muslims would not be in turkey, Egypt, Israel, Syria,Jordan and so on these are all the lands the Turks conquered for the Muslims.
They have spread Islam more than any other Race in the world.
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
@MrGilles1990 you are right Muslim is not a nationality and I did not claim that. Turk on the other hand is, Ottomans became Turks(nationals) thats where they deviated from true islamic principles and bacame korrupt and grief as western governments are. When they ruled according to islamic principles many chose to become muslims and europe had never seen such peace in its history. Watch this and lern: Ottoman Empire part 1
HV25 1 year ago
@MrGilles1990 No country was forced to embrace Islam. Today islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, alone in US 20000 americans convert to islam each year. However christianity sa we know was inforced upon people otherwise they would have been brutally murdered. And now they are trying to impose democracy.
HV25 1 year ago
@HV25 Egypt, Israel, Syria,Jordan and so on these are all the lands that were Christian. The Turks forced them to convert to Islam.
Penticostilism is the fasted growing.
(Penticostilism is a branch of Christianity)
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
@MrGilles1990 That is a great lie. They were not forced at all. Christianity was however imposede upun people. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, alone in US 20000 americans convert to islam each year. So who are forcing these people to convert??? it is the true religion
HV25 1 year ago
@HV25 you call History a lie that says it all you were tought history from people who think women create earthquakes
in Africa and asia Christianity is growing fast we just like it when you dont realise it!
So you dont try to exterminate us like you do in Nigeria!
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
By all the reliable sources, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. It has been verified by many independent sources, many of which are listed below.
CNN World News ( 14 November 1997 Report)
World Christian Database ( 200-2005 Survey)
And, the number of adherents of Protestants and Catholics is decreasing. So, as people are accepting christianity, they are leaving it at a greater rate as reported in leading newspaper. The New York Times ( 25 Feb, 2008 Report)
HV25 1 year ago
@MrGilles1990 All of your claims have been false... I have proven that Islam is the fastes growing religion. I also have proven that the west is the rootcause of various of conflict which led to hundreds of mil deaths. The western polecies in Africa have also led to many conflict there by favoring one party, selling them wepon because of interests. But you are still contniuing making other false claims. You are a liar and I am not going to use more time on liars.
HV25 1 year ago
@MrGilles1990 Nowdays "Democratic Tuerkey" also fights muslims(the Kurds). Turkey also happens to be pro-american and US can keep their bases there.
USA claims Turkey and other puppet governments to be good friends of USA and in the same time, these goverments suppres their people and USA also uses these contries to do torture. These criminal hypocrites are the friends of US.
HV25 1 year ago
@HV25 nah Turkey is doing its part in helping Iran's vision of wiping the west of the map.
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
@MrGilles1990 Throughout 20th century alone hundreds millions of innocent people have died because western policies which led to small and major wars and now the are killing planet earth with their grief, pollution. So yes, with the profs we have, many western governments should be wiped from the face of the earth but not the innocent ones.
HV25 1 year ago
@MrGilles1990 I deny both of them.
TheSaffyone 1 year ago
@MrGilles1990 Prophet Muhammed (PBBU) freed slaves and fought for their rights.
"An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action" Prophet Muhammed(PBUH)
HV25 1 year ago
@HV25 oh i forgot
Islam allows wipe of whole cities (Constantinople, Jerusalem)
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
@HV25 Islam might be growing fast in the US and Europe but Christianity is the fasted growing religion in Africa and Asia.
MrGilles1990 1 year ago
He must have ment US because I can´t recongnise anything of this that should have anything to do with Isla. Its all lies but there are unfortunatly still many ignorant americans who belmieve in such crap. I recomend all viewers to study islam from its sources tha t represent islam.
HV25 1 year ago
What Make you to Lie ? Islam is Not A Relgion ? Read the Quran Understand it what God Commends whole Humanity not Muslims He is God only Quran Proofs Jeses christ PBUH Moses PBUH Soloman PBUH DAWOOD ABRAHAM and all Messangers and also ALLAH realved in QURAN that he Begets not nor he was Begtton and there is no Comparaible unto Him The Freedom you saying gaven in Chirstainity we have seen in Afghanistan & in many other Muslim countries where US is try to say truth or seat quite OK PAT
aryanstar100 1 year ago
dont worry pat...muslim can't even find their way out of paper bag.... name me one muslim genius? there are none.
cirosuperiore 1 year ago
cirosuperiore - you should learn more-go to the library and study the history of Islam at least then you will found them-many!!!!
mcallistermizy 1 year ago
@cirosuperiore:
Muhammad ibn Jābir al-Harrānī al-Battānī -- Formulated many important trigonometric identities.
Al-Jahiz -- Developed a theory of evolution a thousand years before Darwin.
Fazlur Khan -- Designed the Sears Tower and John Hancock Center.
Ibrahim B. Syed -- Member of the American College of Radiology, the American Institute of Chemists, the British Institute of Physics, and the Royal Society of Health and was also a former Professor of Nuclear Medicine.
Just to name a few.
jayoustin 1 year ago
@cirosuperiore:
Also, to prove a point, there's Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan, a US Army Specialist who was killed in Iraq and was awarded a Bronze Star and Purple Heart.
The assumption that following a certain faith would somehow make people less intelligent makes you sound horribly ignorant.
jayoustin 1 year ago
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MRaverz
you are probably right. I don't believe Jesus established his religion. his Apostles did after he died. But i Strongly believe that Jesus want us to realize that there is another way of living and that is through peace and love. Not killing, greed, nor criticizing like this piece of shit Robertson.
How can Pat criticize Islam when US, found under Christianity, kill innocent people and start illegal wars against de Mid East for Oil?
Pat is not a real Christian. Hes a brain washing fake
moctezuma112 1 year ago
I guess the Catholic Church isn't a religion either then. ;D
MRaverz 1 year ago
@MRaverz
well Jesus never established his religion. His Apostles did after his death. I believe Jesus want us to believe that there is another way of living and that is through peace and love to yourself and your surroundings. Not killing, greed for power nor criticizing others like this Piece of shit Robertson.
How can Pat criticize Islam when Americans, founded under Christianity, kill innocent people and start pre-emptive wars against the Mid. East. Pat is not a real Christian. he's a fake
moctezuma112 1 year ago
Good point I hope he's in the bus when they do that way it'll kill him and them and that will be a handfull of religious nut jobs I don't have to worry about
hellsxrebellion 1 year ago