U.S. citizens have a right to carry arms, not a liberty. A liberty applies to everyone. Everyone has the Liberty of Free Speech. Noone can take that away from you.
The reason I say you have the right to carry arms is because a right can be taken away from you. Your right to vote can also be taken away from you if you are a felon, just as your right to carry can be revoked. Does this make sense.
In Minnesota it is a misdemeanor to carry a gun into a place that has a sign posted banning them, or if you are told you cannot carry by any employee.... Gas Stations are public places, and in MN I have yet to see a gas station that does not have a sign banning guns. Check your local laws, they vary but Starbucks can kick you out if they want to, at least in MN.
Blanchard Oklahoma authorities don't plan to file charges against an Oklahoma woman (18 year old Sarah Mckinley) who fatally shot a New Year's Eve intruder at her house while she had a 911 dispatcher on the phone, but the intruder's alleged accomplice has been charged in the death.
Oklahoma law allows the use of deadly force against intruders, and prosecutors said McKinley clearly acted in self-defense. According to court documents, Martin was holding a knife when he died.
If all legal people packed Guns then criminals would think twice about comiting crimes. You people actually think these Barney Fife local small town cops are gonna save you????? There is a county in Nevada where everybody packs and the sheriff agrees with it and there is NO CRIME!!!!!!! Get your heads outta your asses!!!!! Or move to Socialist Europe. You see how great it is there???? Sorry you screw with my property, my money, my wife, or my kids your getting your ass shot!!!!!!!
Funny...I walked in to a Starbucks in a small town here in NM and an old rancher was sitting there sipping coffee with a big ol' pistol in a holster on his hip....
The irony is: You are more likely to be violated by a typical drone cop on roids these days. Way to go, Judge.. we need more honest judges like you in America!
I want Judge Napolitano's autograph. Everytime I have watched his show, or seen him talk, I am impressed with his knowledge, attitude, and understanding.
In New Orleans after Katrina, the police mainly went into "WHITE NEIGHBORHOODS" to confiscate guns. I've never seen any videos of the police in black neighborhoods getting guns. Has seen anyone seen such videos? I smell a rat here. There seems to be an anti-white bias behind gun control&confiscation. If New Orleans was a dry run of future gun confiscations, then wake up white America. Think about it FYI.
this is interesting because here in Florida, "Brandsmart" (a public all-in-1 type store) has a sign that bascially says no weapons are permitted on their property..concealed permit or not
@swordsman3000 Right now I think this is more of the Judge's opinion than anything else. Many states have laws that allow property owners (even those open to the public) to ban firearms. Also in most states you can be asked to leave a property for pretty much any reason and if you don't you could be charged with trespassing. Should it be this way? Maybe not...for now it is.
Keyes and most who promote gun rights miss the point. They frame the debate as the public against common criminals. "The Second Amendment was clearly intended to counterbalance a distrust of a potentially oppressive federal government". We have the right to bear arms to protect ourselves and families against OUR OWN GOVERNMENT and not a single politician will say it!
Self defense is a natural right. I am insulted that the Federal government has to step in and say I have a right to own/carry a handgun for self defense. You should be able to do it without someone telling you that you can.
VikingAndreas, it's not the object, that is the right. The right, is the right of self defense, the object, "arms" is the tool necessary to that right.
This is bullshit. People don't complain about cops in Dunkin Donuts so why complain about people carrying guns in a Starbucks. Who gives a shit if someone has a gun on their side. Only care if one is pointed at you.
@traingp7 Ramel should. What if one of the cops at the dunkin donuts pulls out his or her gun because he feels "threatened". We should disarm the cops so it dosn't happen. Citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals every year as do police (1,527 to 606) but police are more than 5 times more likely than a civilian to shoot an innocent person by mistake. BTW I'm being sarcastic about disarming cops. No sane person would seriously sugest disarming the police unless they hated cops.
I wouldn't want to risk a trespassing charge by walking armed past a conspicuously placed no guns sign on a door. You may be able to argue your way out of this in court but you're likely to need some help. I OC every day, and I support a business' right to select who can patronize their store.
@OaGuardian The key words are "more likely". How is that ridiculous? If you have a gun you are more likely to use it, then if you don't have a gun. You don't have to be a criminal to pull out a gun and use it or flash it. I've been in the military for over 10 years and I can tell you plenty of stories where my friends have pulled out their guns because they were scared or felt threatened. All it takes is one time for an incident to turn tragic.
I disagree with this judge. I use to live in Germany for 4 yrs. I don't know if the laws have changed, but when I lived there, there were no real guns allowed and people carried gas guns for defense. Death by gun was practically unheard of. Besides how does more guns equal less violence? When you have a gun you are more likely to want to use it.
@Ramel34 In every country that has banned guns the murder rate has actually gone up dramaticaly. In australia it doubled in only one year after the ban. The murder rate and violent crime rates in the states that allow concealed carry like texas and florda went down after carry was legalised. Banning guns is friggin stupid, it dosn't save lives. Guns save lives.
@Ramel34 Citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals every year as do police (1,527 to 606) but police are more than 5 times more likely than a civilian to shoot an innocent person by mistake. Not allowing citizens to carry as is their constitutional right makes about as much sense as disarming the police.
@Stink808 Starbucks can ask you to do many things. They can ask you to leave your gun in the car, they can ask you to stand on your head or sing a silly song. It isn't an order but a request to be done at your own approval. They can however, ask you to leave if you are armed and if you refuse, request that you be cited for trespass.
It's common for people to fear that which they don't understand. That's fine. Just leave the people alone who do understand. Friendly comments and questions aside of course :)
If you were a criminal, would you commit a crime in front of someone with a gun or look for a softer target?
Even though there have been almost no problems with open carry, the time that ONE issue does occur, it will be used to smear credibility when statistically it makes no sense. Remember that Brady Bunch.
Notice he says they cannot tell you to leave your gun outside-he didn't say they couldn't tell you to leave the property. In VA, if you're asked to leave and don't, you can be charged with trespassing.
Don't get yourself in trouble over this-check your state laws!
I'm a huge 2A / OC / CC supporter, but I have never heard the argument that Napolitano makes here. I was always under the impression that as a guest on private property, property owners can kick me out for whatever reason they want to. If I fail to comply, I am trespassing.
Just like if I didn't like a business, I can't go on their property and warn customers how much they suck. While it may be free speech, I can be asked to leave and arrested if I refuse to.
There is a difference between a private business which has no public accommodations like an IBM or a Microsoft who can ban guns and kick people off their property, and one that opens its doors to the general public. A public business can no more legally ask a gun owner to leave than they can ask a person of color to leave their store. Self defense is a fundamental right and while a private business with no public access has a right to ban anyone they like (my belief), public access ones do not.
@dougwg I totally 100% agree with you. What he said about guns is just the opposite of the truth. More guns equals LESS violence. Now that has been proven. Lol
@dougwg i am Canadian and own 4 guns and I happen to agree with you. Guns do not create violence, people create violence. But do you think guns should be a right or a privilage?
@dougwg You're an idiot!!!! Those who carry legal guns are protectors and if you take that away, only shitheads who illegally carry guns like drug dealers will have them and also the police who are pawns of our socialised government would have them. That is Anarchy and Tyranny. I love the 2nd Amendment, and if you don't move to France!!!!
@ironcitydevildog DUDE!...re-read what I wrote. You won't find many people more PRO2A then me....check some of my video's. Hell, I'm even one of those so called "crazy open carriers"
U.S. citizens have a right to carry arms, not a liberty. A liberty applies to everyone. Everyone has the Liberty of Free Speech. Noone can take that away from you.
The reason I say you have the right to carry arms is because a right can be taken away from you. Your right to vote can also be taken away from you if you are a felon, just as your right to carry can be revoked. Does this make sense.
part3auctions 1 week ago
In Minnesota it is a misdemeanor to carry a gun into a place that has a sign posted banning them, or if you are told you cannot carry by any employee.... Gas Stations are public places, and in MN I have yet to see a gas station that does not have a sign banning guns. Check your local laws, they vary but Starbucks can kick you out if they want to, at least in MN.
part3auctions 1 week ago
@part3auctions Starbucks CEO has gone on record that they support the Second Amendment.
It's the only reason I buy coffee there from time to time.
Kiddeth 5 days ago
What if Judge Napo was the only true voice in the today's media....
Thank You Judge, Ron Paul needs you.. We the people need you.
dstacey87 1 month ago
Blanchard Oklahoma authorities don't plan to file charges against an Oklahoma woman (18 year old Sarah Mckinley) who fatally shot a New Year's Eve intruder at her house while she had a 911 dispatcher on the phone, but the intruder's alleged accomplice has been charged in the death.
Oklahoma law allows the use of deadly force against intruders, and prosecutors said McKinley clearly acted in self-defense. According to court documents, Martin was holding a knife when he died.
intrepidorator 1 month ago
If all legal people packed Guns then criminals would think twice about comiting crimes. You people actually think these Barney Fife local small town cops are gonna save you????? There is a county in Nevada where everybody packs and the sheriff agrees with it and there is NO CRIME!!!!!!! Get your heads outta your asses!!!!! Or move to Socialist Europe. You see how great it is there???? Sorry you screw with my property, my money, my wife, or my kids your getting your ass shot!!!!!!!
ironcitydevildog 1 month ago
Napolitano is the man!
Ron Paul 2012, the ONLY true and sane choice.
911SMOM 2 months ago
Help fight crime, shoot back !
TheWildbill242 2 months ago
Funny...I walked in to a Starbucks in a small town here in NM and an old rancher was sitting there sipping coffee with a big ol' pistol in a holster on his hip....
....I never felt safer!
ironoxidered 3 months ago
Liar! The facts are more guns less crime. if you ban all guns then only the criminal will have them.
dumbassstupidpeople1 4 months ago
The irony is: You are more likely to be violated by a typical drone cop on roids these days. Way to go, Judge.. we need more honest judges like you in America!
katnap72 4 months ago
I want Judge Napolitano's autograph. Everytime I have watched his show, or seen him talk, I am impressed with his knowledge, attitude, and understanding.
trackerscott 4 months ago 3
good for you starbucks
jnixongo00 5 months ago
LOL he was choking because of the stupidity of that guy stating "people would argue that one with you".
brownspottedbanana 5 months ago
In New Orleans after Katrina, the police mainly went into "WHITE NEIGHBORHOODS" to confiscate guns. I've never seen any videos of the police in black neighborhoods getting guns. Has seen anyone seen such videos? I smell a rat here. There seems to be an anti-white bias behind gun control&confiscation. If New Orleans was a dry run of future gun confiscations, then wake up white America. Think about it FYI.
RonSafreed 5 months ago
I love those clear words of Judge Napolitano! Even the most ignorant anti weapon i... should understand what he say!!!!!!
AustrianJager 6 months ago
this is interesting because here in Florida, "Brandsmart" (a public all-in-1 type store) has a sign that bascially says no weapons are permitted on their property..concealed permit or not
gotta check this out !
swordsman3000 9 months ago
@swordsman3000 Right now I think this is more of the Judge's opinion than anything else. Many states have laws that allow property owners (even those open to the public) to ban firearms. Also in most states you can be asked to leave a property for pretty much any reason and if you don't you could be charged with trespassing. Should it be this way? Maybe not...for now it is.
Fallguy67 9 months ago
There is a town in Georgia that wrote a law. That law states that everyone must own a gun. Guess what their crime rate is?
Zero. Let me defend myself in all cases and i won't need to call the police. I will just dial .357
Marian12c 11 months ago 5
@Marian12c
The town is Kennesaw.
Watcher3223 10 months ago
Keyes and most who promote gun rights miss the point. They frame the debate as the public against common criminals. "The Second Amendment was clearly intended to counterbalance a distrust of a potentially oppressive federal government". We have the right to bear arms to protect ourselves and families against OUR OWN GOVERNMENT and not a single politician will say it!
Watthiman 1 year ago
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Watthiman 1 year ago
Self defense is a natural right. I am insulted that the Federal government has to step in and say I have a right to own/carry a handgun for self defense. You should be able to do it without someone telling you that you can.
hogger129 1 year ago 3
VikingAndreas, it's not the object, that is the right. The right, is the right of self defense, the object, "arms" is the tool necessary to that right.
BigGayAl56 1 year ago
@VikingAndreas The US Constitution is supposed to make keeping and bearing them a Right, not a privilege.
Fallguy67 1 year ago 11
@Fallguy67 It is a right and a DUTY, for a Militia is NECESSARY to secure a Free State in its LIBERTY!
centurion180ad 1 year ago
@Fallguy67 You hit the nail on the head! You know what you are talking about!
part3auctions 1 week ago
@Fallguy67 You hit the nail on the head! You know what you are talking about!
part3auctions 1 week ago
This is bullshit. People don't complain about cops in Dunkin Donuts so why complain about people carrying guns in a Starbucks. Who gives a shit if someone has a gun on their side. Only care if one is pointed at you.
traingp7 1 year ago
@traingp7 Ramel should. What if one of the cops at the dunkin donuts pulls out his or her gun because he feels "threatened". We should disarm the cops so it dosn't happen. Citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals every year as do police (1,527 to 606) but police are more than 5 times more likely than a civilian to shoot an innocent person by mistake. BTW I'm being sarcastic about disarming cops. No sane person would seriously sugest disarming the police unless they hated cops.
bigbenusa45 1 year ago
I wouldn't want to risk a trespassing charge by walking armed past a conspicuously placed no guns sign on a door. You may be able to argue your way out of this in court but you're likely to need some help. I OC every day, and I support a business' right to select who can patronize their store.
smith45acp 1 year ago
@OaGuardian The key words are "more likely". How is that ridiculous? If you have a gun you are more likely to use it, then if you don't have a gun. You don't have to be a criminal to pull out a gun and use it or flash it. I've been in the military for over 10 years and I can tell you plenty of stories where my friends have pulled out their guns because they were scared or felt threatened. All it takes is one time for an incident to turn tragic.
Ramel34 1 year ago
@Ramel34 then lets disarm cops and military personal.
bigbenusa45 1 year ago
I disagree with this judge. I use to live in Germany for 4 yrs. I don't know if the laws have changed, but when I lived there, there were no real guns allowed and people carried gas guns for defense. Death by gun was practically unheard of. Besides how does more guns equal less violence? When you have a gun you are more likely to want to use it.
Ramel34 1 year ago
@Ramel34 In every country that has banned guns the murder rate has actually gone up dramaticaly. In australia it doubled in only one year after the ban. The murder rate and violent crime rates in the states that allow concealed carry like texas and florda went down after carry was legalised. Banning guns is friggin stupid, it dosn't save lives. Guns save lives.
bigbenusa45 1 year ago 3
@Ramel34 Citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals every year as do police (1,527 to 606) but police are more than 5 times more likely than a civilian to shoot an innocent person by mistake. Not allowing citizens to carry as is their constitutional right makes about as much sense as disarming the police.
bigbenusa45 1 year ago
The judge is wrong here. Starbucks can disallow people who are carrying firearms from remaining in their stores.
Stink808 1 year ago
@Stink808 Starbucks can ask you to do many things. They can ask you to leave your gun in the car, they can ask you to stand on your head or sing a silly song. It isn't an order but a request to be done at your own approval. They can however, ask you to leave if you are armed and if you refuse, request that you be cited for trespass.
Stink808 1 year ago
Gotta love Judge Napolitano. Somebody who actually knows what the hell he's talking about. More power to ya, Judge Napolitano!
TheNikkiBlack 1 year ago
It's common for people to fear that which they don't understand. That's fine. Just leave the people alone who do understand. Friendly comments and questions aside of course :)
If you were a criminal, would you commit a crime in front of someone with a gun or look for a softer target?
Even though there have been almost no problems with open carry, the time that ONE issue does occur, it will be used to smear credibility when statistically it makes no sense. Remember that Brady Bunch.
MoviepostDotNet 1 year ago
if somebody actually checks the statistics,lawfully owned and carried firearms = less violent crime.
say a woman is walking home from the store,shes unarmed,an attacker comes up and proceeds to rape her in the alley,what is she gonna do,slap him?
she gets raped and possibly dead.
same woman carries concealed,rapist ends up dead and/or wounded.woman is fine.
same woman carried openly,rapist sees the firearm and not wanting to be shot,moves onto easy victims.
statistics prove it.
hillikt 1 year ago
P.S. Massad Ayoob
oldstyle1957 1 year ago
An armed society, is a kinder society
oldstyle1957 1 year ago
Semantics, donchaknow?
Notice he says they cannot tell you to leave your gun outside-he didn't say they couldn't tell you to leave the property. In VA, if you're asked to leave and don't, you can be charged with trespassing.
Don't get yourself in trouble over this-check your state laws!
basicblur 1 year ago
I'm a huge 2A / OC / CC supporter, but I have never heard the argument that Napolitano makes here. I was always under the impression that as a guest on private property, property owners can kick me out for whatever reason they want to. If I fail to comply, I am trespassing.
Just like if I didn't like a business, I can't go on their property and warn customers how much they suck. While it may be free speech, I can be asked to leave and arrested if I refuse to.
diggingforgold 2 years ago
YOU'RE WRONG
ross2376 2 years ago
There is a difference between a private business which has no public accommodations like an IBM or a Microsoft who can ban guns and kick people off their property, and one that opens its doors to the general public. A public business can no more legally ask a gun owner to leave than they can ask a person of color to leave their store. Self defense is a fundamental right and while a private business with no public access has a right to ban anyone they like (my belief), public access ones do not.
PatriotsRepublic 1 year ago 9
"Our point is, the more guns, the more gun violence".
WRONG!
Clueless sheeple, I pity them.
dougwg 2 years ago 39
@dougwg I totally 100% agree with you. What he said about guns is just the opposite of the truth. More guns equals LESS violence. Now that has been proven. Lol
Vorash2002 1 year ago
@dougwg i am Canadian and own 4 guns and I happen to agree with you. Guns do not create violence, people create violence. But do you think guns should be a right or a privilage?
VikingAndreas 1 year ago
@dougwg You're an idiot!!!! Those who carry legal guns are protectors and if you take that away, only shitheads who illegally carry guns like drug dealers will have them and also the police who are pawns of our socialised government would have them. That is Anarchy and Tyranny. I love the 2nd Amendment, and if you don't move to France!!!!
ironcitydevildog 1 month ago 2
@ironcitydevildog DUDE!...re-read what I wrote. You won't find many people more PRO2A then me....check some of my video's. Hell, I'm even one of those so called "crazy open carriers"
dougwg 1 month ago