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  • *Ahem* Christians *Ahem*

  • I would say Buddhism is our best tool to understand the mind, and Science our best focus for the mechanical workings of the brain . :)

  • But don't the frontal lobes in the front of the brain control higher brain functions like morality?

  • Homosexual activists understand the power of words.

    Please visit my channel to watch a one-minute video clip in which popular atheist author Richard Dawkins admits that homosexual activists "hijacked the word 'gay'".

    The word "homosexual" is more appropriate and accurate because it, unlike the word "gay", actually describes the behavior/attraction/relationsh­ip being discussed.

    The word "gay" helps homosexual activists push their agenda.

  • OMG who the f*ck is breathing so loud near the end? xD I'm ocd

  • 11:36 Quarters aren't magnetic...

  • i think she is the first women i listened to this long with CONCENTRATION

  • We are surrounded by magnetic forces with all the modern technology. Wonder how all of this effects us in the short and long terms. Seems more significant to me than what they are actually researching

  • Wow I thought Saxe would be much older!!

  • This in essence proves (contributes) that morality is subjective. Yet another FACT the religious will deny for hundreds of years. Oh... how they drain society. The feats we could accomplish absent their vacuous ancient mythology, and with it, the prevention of scientific pursuit. Stem cell research, gene alteration, evolutionary biology... to name but a few domains that offer serious progress, well-being and proliferation to all live. Perhaps not so relevant, but I am sick of this.

  • @Rhoky This is also question free will.

  • @Rhoky Very well put.

  • @Rhoky Don't screw with anything you don't understand fully. People keep on messing with things they don't understand in the name of science. I'm religious...I meditate an hour a day. I'm a skeptic too though, have quite a few doubts about whether meditation is useful at all. I don't go talking about it because I'm not 100% sure. Nobody has the right to mess with things that has a possibility of effecting more than himself/herself if they aren't 100% sure

  • Effing wind..

  • her last answer was great. lol

  • shes funny she has a cute lisp

  • What a waste of resources. All common sense.

  • @jorgipogi common sense is not as common as we'd like to think

  • @buttersnp2

    a CLEAN one.

  • to understand "the hard problem of consciousness" first we must understand the roles that physical processes play in creating consciousness and the extent to which these processes create our subjective qualities of experience.

  • in some book i red how thwy used such tesla tehnology in war, americans made their enemy(can't remember who they ware) give up their weapon infact to a reporters becouse they(enemy) thought they ware military...

  • So beautiful and smart.... Am I a perv if I wanna touch her hair?

    And her last answer is tah best! lolz

  • god shes hot.

  • Its called, keep your big fucking nose out of my head bitch. What next, thought police? get fucked, it may be scientifically possible, but morally wrong, its like mind rape...go and fuck yourself.

  • The pirate task is similar to the theory of mind task developed by Simon Baron Cohen testing autism, Sally's Ball

  • sexy is spelt wrong.

  • *hmpf*.... [<- Repeat]

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  • I think it was a very selective experiment by having 2 children to prove a point. I think age-based categorization of psychological development is highly fallacious.

    There could be very young children, acutely sensitive to other people's thoughts and feelings.

  • @LuvLuckLife Those studies have gone on for decades. It reminds me of the critical learning age for language, if a child doesn't learn to talk before reaching a certain age they'll never be able to, at least not beyond simple parroting.

    I wonder if it's the same with this concept, if they aren't taught or are taught to different degrees about other's perceptions whether it affects their adult life. It'd certainly explain why kids whose parents let bus stops raise them mostly end up as thieves.

  • the wind should get in trouble

  • why is that guy breathing to the microphone?!?!

  • 29 people eat cheese-sandwiches off the ground.

  • @EeeScape lolz!

  • @buttersnp2 just ate a turkey sandwich with american cheese on whole wheat bread. mmmm

  • and why would you need to worry about that "problem" with other minds??? wtf does it mean. if they didnt have a mind they probably wouldnt be there. whats the point of all this? i just missed it complitely.... scary stuff

  • "how we read each others mind" im doing it just fine and i have an ability to detect if im stupid, it seems to be somekind of advanced technology today... maybe i should share it wit these super scientists before they invent something similar to nuclear bomb -.-

  • "how can we know that other people have minds" ... "mind" is a word for something she probably got whrong .everything in the universe has mind. even junk of metal knows when to melt. humans are just more flexible. and if you need to ask or to know , tazing people with magnetic pulses and lazers is kinda stupid way.i would fight back. making statistics not the way either. just say hi and so on.

  • @kreisiass metal has a mind? i though it was scientifically proven that we have brains and hunks of metal do not..

  • @htko89 i mean, we can't reeeally prove that the brain and mind are connected. a mind could be something more than we can understand. anything is possible..

  • @htko89 yeah well , i can prove it has.. even scientifically :) and who has proved such thing.. its hard to belive lol. anyway i dont know about scientists but i have seen with my own eyes that even metals do have mind and good memory but ofcourse its different from yours. it doesnt have much freedom though.

  • who to blame lol wtf , who fucking cares. this is nonsense.and btw its that stupid bitch that is responsible for a sandwich. she is fucked up and i see how it spreads.. so whats the point of this? getting more and more stupid. " getting em wrong and wrong and wrong that is living" .... why not to try and enjoy and live and do healthy stuff. its not about right or wrong. she is just stuck with stupidity in her mind, she probably learned from her stupid parents and so on.

  • I loved the part with the kids, I could actually FEEL their boredom! LOL

  • That guy was breathing hard because he was using both of his heads on the subject instead of just one.

  • 14:30 - 15:52

    I didn't hear what she said because of that dude going "hhfffff, hhffff, hfffff, hffff" with his nose.

  • is it just me or does she remind me of professor Tralawny off harry potter?

  • I see stupid people... they do not know they are stupid but only I do...

  • LOL heavy duty breathing when the dude is on stage

  • soldiers of pirate bay

    

  • Holy shit the pentagon are after this technology , thats it we are fucked.

  • lol, 'It's not called the hard problem of consciousness for nothing'.

  • "The wind should be punished!"

  • its been a while since we've had an educational presentation

  • I laughed when I heard the Pentagon was calling. Then I stopped laughing.

  • What an amazingly intelligent woman. It's refreshing to watch and listen to her. I strongly believe that we are already exposed to toxins which are sent out into the world through food additives as well as chem trails from air planes in order to modify our sense of justice in our brains towards a less accurate and less conscientious form.

  • @NicolaRedwooddforest

    Chemtrails? One of the more peculiar conspiracy theories. There's hard science behind the cause of contrails in the atmosphere from aircraft. Hearing people equate them to some "secret government plot" is quite silly, right up there with the moon landing hoaxers. You'd think an group of people smart enough to manufacture such a mind altering substance would figure out how to disperse it without leaving GIANT streams of the stuff in view for all to see.

  • @opmike343 I am against conspiracy theories, most of them are coming from some kind of money oriented agenda. Particularly the Christian conspiracy theory. I don't even believe that there is such a secret governmental plot going on, but what is going on is severe corruption. It's all about money and nothin' else.

  • " A funny thing happened on the way to the moon" Debunk please

  • TedTalks is that true G shit ya feel me? thumbz up fo knawledge mawfukkaz.

  • @CantWeedThis

    damn effin right! :D

  • @CantWeedThis That's real shit, my nigga. Mad respect.

  • @CantWeedThis This coming from the person who cant use proper grammar

  • @John582467 watchu talkin bout foo? diz nikka think IQ has a correlation with gramma lmfao

  • weed gives u special abillity to read all

  • boring

  • the ad gurus n now recently heard FBI uses psychological profiling, wherein you keep telling the person the same thing again n again n he would slowly start agreeing with it :)

  • What about the dark side of people's judgments? When people try to comprehend other people's thoughts. Most people make mistakes and they can't properly understand one another.

  • Dont you think that Chris Andersons, hosts, sense of humor is not, I would say well developed?

  • SHE'S A ROBOT, KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!

  • if you like cheese sandwiches you are a pirate, if you like cheese sandwiches the RIAA will come and eat you :P

  • i have a boy who is 4 years and 3 months old, and i've noticed that he has JUST developed the skill described in this video. very cool.

  • H.A.A.R.P

  • My Question: How does this region of the brain develops? By experiences and learning, or does is just grow when you age?

  • the guy at the end has his mic on too close to his nose so you can hear his breathing

  • I would marry that one ^^^

  • The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed."

    -- Albert Einstein

  • do u guys think its morally right to use technology to influence another persons judgmental decisions???

    I recon it could have a very adverse affect if it gets to a extremist group (terrorist, guerrilla fighters) at the same time it would be great if they can use it to rehabilitate the prisoners (mental disorders, patients)

  • @naviyastube It would not be morally right with ir without technology.

    Humans do it all the time by "imposing" the same religious beliefs on our children

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  • How is it that some people have a lower or underdeveloped RTPJ than others. What happened during its development that promoted growth or lack thereof in this area? Is it the same as some people being more athletically gifted than others? Pease I MUST KNOW!

  • quite probably some RTPJ are a bit bigger or smaller than others. but most are pretty much the same.

    what really differs is how specialized they are and how active they get when you give them these specific problems. you saw that in her talk. you also saw that the RTPJs must become specialized over time. this means that if a child is not stimulated to develope the RTPJ (ie because no contact to humans,child soldier,etc) then it will have a less developed RTPJ as an adult.

  • ah that makes a lot of sense, thanks a lot.

  • how did she know I was curious about this?

  • thats some crazy shit

  • Smart

    But what about kids?

  • I wonder if all those adults I work with have underdeveloped RTPJ or they are just happy being morons...

    Thank you again for the video!

  • Great young scientist!

  • i know you think you understand what you thought i said, but i'm not sure you realize that was you heard was not what i meant.

    haha!

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  • wtf? if grace did that, it would be considered attempted murder!

  • such a beautiful and smart girl. very enertaining and informative. thanks

  • thats stupid, she didnt mean to kill her and she thought it was sugar, how does she diserve blam? the person who thought it was poison but gave it to here and she was ok, she deserves less blame?

    like this:

    i open a door realy fast and hit another persons head by opening it realy fast, i go to prison and get ass raped by a black guy? even though i didnt mean harm? SOCIETY IS RETARDED!!!!

  • I suspect that some people weren't really paying close enough attention and thought that, in the accident scenario, Grace thought the powder was sugar despite it being labeled as poison, rather than because it was then labeled as sugar.

    I got a little lost when she described it, myself, needing to watch it again.

  • WAIT WAIT WAIT... She can partially disable moral judgement with a magnetic pulse. Dude

  • Yeah?

  • Thats crazy...

  • That wasnt an Alan Greenspan quote lol

  • okay so my understanding is we always always judge people wrongly, because there is no way of having proof of what they think...so how do you judge people correctly, or even so judge them more accuratly? is this even possible? this is extremely frusterating!

  • I always asked myself if the government could keep us ignorant of many many things that are really happening out there with magnetic or electric jolts in the air, or waves. I always wondered...

  • I am therefore I think...Don't you know who I think I am. (;-)

  • I think therefore i am.. dont you think i know who i am?

  • I think I have a headache.

  • haha very deep talk

    PS :u can hear the guy breathin at the end haha hes so loud

  • Now, an what interests me about the study presented would be the people who gave the "normal" responses (i.e greater contrast b/t the left and middle columns) after having their brain scrambled. Assuming the study is accurate and the RTPJ does control our ability to judge morality in other's actions, then a "normal" result would suggest the individual's morality wasn't hardwired.... (I think)

  • his nose is blocked

  • Now a new question remains, will we ever figure out what other people think about us in the future. The amazing possibility of feeling signals of love...hate...and evil.

  • mind controll is no longer sci-fi.... you can find a video about remote-controlling lab-rats somewhere here in youtube... Alterring self-concious is the sci-fi.... because self-conciousness is not well defined and there are debates going on on its existence and connection to the nervous system... at the end i think it is a philosofical question and not yet practical...let's hope that matrix will not happen :)

  • Couldnt agree more

    I had a whole conversation with somebody who believes that stones and water and everything in the universe has "consciousness" based on Einstein's relativity and quantum physics..

    And that therefore things like ESP, psychics and telekinesis must be possible.

    It's so frustrating that people cant just enjoy who interesting and wonderful nature and science can be without going into the paranormal and misusing bits and pieces (often it's quantum physics..)

  • or neuroscience/consciousness (or just good ol' pseudoscience :P )

  • yeah i wish people wud talk more about natures miracles and symmetry

  • @SzilveszterCsaba Where is the remote controlling lab rats video?

  • @truemind I can't link it for some reason... I'll send it to you in a PM

  • man at the end is breathing too loud

  • Hah i mean the second kid. . soo stoned

  • Haha, im exactly like that first kid when im high

  • Instead of trying to read each others deceptive intentions as thoughts, feelings/emotions - why dont we start with ourselves by stopping self deception through that which we allow to exist within us

  • Gotta wonder why we fight so extensively about our programming when just a flip of a switch and we could fight just as passionately about the opposite point-of-view. Is there a way to be freed from all programming, all beliefs, and just live directly HERE without thoughts "about" life? Can we still function without beliefs? Erase beliefs and see what morality emerges. That would be a cool experiment.

  • this is sooo limited...

  • yes. It seems to me this work is important when speaking about the right quadrants and their interplay.

    Leaving out the left quadrants altogether, even in analysis is, as you say limited.

    Let them do it, let Wilber integrate it...

  • This is scary... she states the limitations of the technology at the end, but how soon before those limitations are overcome and the technology is used for mind control?

  • I believe that security agencies have other and better tools to impair people's judgment and overcome their rational thinking.

    All there tools exist thanks to science, but that's the basic problem: you can't have technological advances without someone using it to hurt other people (e.g. the dynamite).

    I don't think that we should stop exploring and inventing just because of that.

  • OMG, she's funny and brilliant. I love everyone at TED and I don't care if it makes me a giant nerdy geek nerd.

  • OH NOES I ACCIDENTALLY MORALITY

  • I came away from this knowing one thing. I want one of those brain scrambler machines. Now.

  • Deepmind, "implied train of thought" is the entire POINT of this lecture. The hypothetical person's perception of the mystery powder affects our perception of if they intended to harm their friend or not.

    ATTEMPT - thinks [to herself], "poison" [but really] is sugar

    ACCIDENT - thinks [to herself] "sugar" [but really] is poison. (result = dead)

    That IS what is being discussed in this video, perhaps you should watch the full thing again and pay attention to the speaker as well as her diagrams.

  • not really, the videos were examples, shes a scientist so repeated that same experiement over and over again. Reading to much into the repetative responces of 1000s of three year old's responses?

    With brain scans to back it up?

    I think you havn't thought about this properly.

  • That sugar example reminds me of discussions about punishments such as death sentence.

    Many people beeing pro death sentence don't pay much attention to the criminals' motives and background. Might this be caused by a brain handycap...?

    Well, this is way too speculative to be taken serious but its just an idea :)

  • I guess this indirectly David Hume's concept of morality, it's all empirical.

  • 'put children in a machine' - LOL

  • meh. unimpressive results. ghastly implications. "lets just use magnetic impulses to alter peoples moral judegements..." *crowd laughs*

    yea, hilarious.

  • In the accident case, why would people put blame on the girl? If she reads "sugar" and it wasn't her attempt to poison, then there shouldn't be any blame IMO. What am I missing?

  • You are not missing anything, this is exactly what the speaker is talking about. Some people´s brains are messed up - they have little activity in that area, they can´t think well enough.

  • nothing, you are right.

    but probably the people that answer that don't have their area of the brain that judges others as mature as you or me.

    I mean some people just have to find a guilty judgment somewhere.

  • I think that's kind of the point. Those with a developed RPTJ (did I get that acronym right?) will correctly see the person as not being at fault. Those who have less function or disrupted function in this brain region, will "incorrectly" assign blame, just like the younger 2 children "incorrectly" assigned blame to the pirate who took the other pirate's sandwich without being able to know whose was whose.

  • Okay, thanks for the clarification. That is pretty scary result. Maybe they need to give jury members special tests to make sure they don't have defect brain functioning in this area if they don't already.

  • great! really interesting and an excelent ending

  • Now I see why I didn't quite get what she was saying the first time I watched this...

    The labels under "Attempt" & "Accident" on the Causal role bar graph are switched. What it says under "Attempt" should be under "Accident" & vice versa.

    I wonder if Ms. Saxe ever became aware of this.

  • What? Do you mean at 9:57? The labels are correct there. "Attempt" is when the girl thought the powder was poison and was ATTEMPTING to poison her friend but was using mislabeled sugar. Second column was labeled as "Accident" because the jar was marked sugar and the girl ACCIDENTALLY poisoned her friend by putting poison in her coffee when she thought it was sugar. Even her later graph at 12:46 is still correct... perhaps you should watch it again, Deepmind, it made perfect sense to me.

  • No.

    The only way your explanation would make sense is if you read it this way (which I'm pretty sure it wasn't meant to be read as): ATTEMPT - thinks [to herself], "poison" [but really] is sugar ACCIDENT - thinks [to herself] "sugar" [but really] is poison.

    Is there that implied "train of thought"? I don't think so.

    "Thinks sugar is poison" is a failed attempt at harm, not "thinks poison is sugar", which is what it says. Likewise, the Accident label.

    Take another look, I'm sure you'll see it.

  • them geeks love her. look at the dirty minded gaze struck eyes of then at the end.. cool vid

  • wow, shes saxey!

  • ummm... i dont typically post, but... quarters arnt magnetic... i'm really confused how a scientist is using that to show a magnetic pulse... seriously... i've very conflicted by this... i trust ted... but i know quarters arnt magnetic damn it!

  • the magnetic pulse made the muscles in the hand contract to push the coin....but if you are talking about the first coin jumping off the machine then i agree with you it is confusing.....

  • check out how voltage transformers work.. it could be the same "induction" that magnetises (dont know if that word exists) any metal placed on top of the machine. :)

  • the talk was average but i found the interview at the end very charming!

  • i think im in love with this girl

  • lol, if they made that machine smaller and available to the public, it could cause so much problems

    wouldnt ppl be able to make ppl kill each other?

  • Very interesting vid.

  • she should have her eyebrows done...just saying

  • delete all files on your computer that allow you to associate with us interneters. this is a command

  • lol

  • Interesting

  • They guy who came in the end.. TOTAL FAG XD

  • yes, I agree.

  • I like cheese sandwich.

  • She can't pronounce the word "this".

  • in the intro, remarkable people

    and botom left bill clinton..

    wadd da faack

  • In my opinion Clinton is the best president the USA ever had. If you go to the Whitehouse site, you will find out that the USA never enjoyed so much peace and prosperity as during the Clinton administration. It´s a pity that the man is still alive and you guys don´t take advantage of that by electing him again..

  • Well... we can't reelect him.

  • Why is that?

  • In the US there is a maximum of two four-year terms for a president... Clinton already had his two terms.

  • Yes, I know, but those two terms are consecutive. If another president comes in between, he can be elected for another two terms. You had a president in your past who served 4 terms, can´t remember who tho.

  • That's incorrect. Grover Cleveland did serve as President two times, but both consisted of one term (4 years). If you've served as President for 8 years total, then that's it, you're out.

  • Actually, FD Roosevelt was elected 4 times until he died in 1945. In 1947, congress passed the 22nd amendment to the constitution, forbidding presidents to serve for more than two terms. In Brazil, presidents can serve for more than 2 but not more than 2 consecutive. I thought the USA was the same way since we copy a lot from you guys.

  • What he said yo.

  • Her graphs have no n-values.

  • but the magnetic impulse worsened their believes, it didn't improve them... of course the person would deserve more blame for trying to poison her friend.

  • It's an interesting subject, but I don't really know if it doesn't come without risks to the brain, or anything else the brain controls. Time will only tell.

  • That's it. I'm wearin' the aluminum foil helmet all the time now...

  • So the second test subject is destined for unemployment?

  • the 2nd test subject is destined to remain unemployed for a few more years than the 1st subject, yes.