@Nominandum1 Let me write you something about German civilians: my grandma's ship had been sunk close to the seashore and many people were able to reach the beach. Majority of them were KL prisoners. "Normal" people from nearby village came with axes, picks and shovels and slew the survivors. My grandma was saved only because she spoke accent free German and didn't wear prision clothes. I'm not sorry about Gustloff passangers, they have been working for the regime. I'm only sorry about children.
Thank You for sharing. From your Grandmother to your Mother to you. If she did not survive very unlikely I would be talking with you hearing this story .
funny that the english media and a lot of english people still keep the hate towards us germans alive. might it be that those guys know that by bombing our country, our cities our civilians to bits their country behaved just as barbaric as we did. and when it comes to bombing they behaved even worse. it's hard to admit such crimes isn't it? we continue to appologize for centuries. you prefer to ignore your guilt by hating us. do as you like, but no matter what ... we WON'T forget what you did.
@rheinsand Firstly let me say im not trying to hate on Germany, the new generation of Germans should not be held accountable for the actions of those before them. However nazi Germany did start a war that claimed 50- 70 million lives, the deadliest war in human history and committed many atrocities on top of that.
Just as how you wont forget how your country was bombed, the world wont forget all the lives lost due to the war nazi germany started.
@FoxHoundsfu From reading literally hundreds of books on the war, it seems clear to me war was inevitable. Dont forget our allies the Soviets invaded Poland at the same time as the Germans. Yet the UK and France declared war on Germany and allied themselves with the Soviets because of the invasion of Poland???? Now that cannot make any sense in any way. Totally cynical politicians, lying thieving bastards the lot of them.
@rheinsand I am English, I absolutely cannot understand why the UK declared war on Germany yet our politicians saw fit to allie themselves with the filthy communists, who then went on to threaten us with nuclear attack for the next 60 years. We should have helped you guys rid the world of communism, the leaders of our 'labour party' are marxists and they have pretty much destroyed my nation over the last decade. Dont blame us all for the errors of our leaders as we also dont blame all of you.
@rheinsand Ich fühle trauriger für Deutschland als ich mache von der restlichen Welt. Die Brite und die Amerikaner sind solche SCHLECHTEN Gewinner die sie haben gemacht Deutschland leidet für den ersten Krieg, den sie sich nicht angefangen haben.
Nothing more pathetic than a bully who cries when he gets hit back! The average English person DOES NOT hate Germany of Germans. We did drop an inordinate amount of bombs on Germany, but only after you had invaded a dozen countries beforehand, laid waste to their armies, and subjugated their peoples. War is war, and, with all due respect, you started the bloody thing.....not us!
@rheinsand I don't hate Germans, my grandmother, she... I could understand why as a child of Russian origin, luckily evaded with her mother though Belgium onto a ship to America. Why people joined the Nazis (not a group I'm per say fond of yet understand it to a point) weather out of an urge to grow out of poverty, fear or other, bad times, But a ww1 German soldier once said it best, if just the leaders were to fight it out with clubs, their would be no war, and it would be settled quick.
@rheinsand You're quite right about the media going over the top about Germany, but quite frankly it's little more than a joke. I don't believe anyone in England really hates Germans. However, saying that English people should feel guilty about anything that happened seems to be motivated by emotion rather than anything based on fact. In fact,arther like the Journalists you criticise.
@rheinsand You Germans were responsible for the vast majority of atrocities during World War 2 (and World War 1 for that matter). You behaved like savages, and your genocidal murder of 6 million Jews was just the worst example. You deserve to hang your heads in shame for at least another century, you will never be completely trusted.
@Treblinka2012 It's Socialism we are stuck with here.I don't mind what the racial mix of the country is as long as we are free.The State controls more than 50% of the economy here!
@Lintflas It's not an anti-war film...the opposite. It shows how the camaraderie and bonding goes beyond the "reason" for the war in the first place. Unless you have military experience you wont understand. It comes to a point where you don't fight for the "cause" but for each other. The sub service in WW2 was quite unique since they spent months alone and so were not so influenced by the politics, hence fought for each others survival. Anti-war = anti-military. This isn't in the least..!!
@Lintflas Yes. Anti-war movies are against war. War is executed (made) by armies. So "anti-war" means "anti-military". Right? That's obvious. Now this movie is made for military-aficionados, people who like armies and all things military. The book which this movie is based on was written by an army journalist who took a tour on a U-Boat during World War 2. This movie is not anti-war anything, in fact it glorifies the heroism of these men. What this movie is though is ANTI-POLITICAL. Get it now?
@clovermoocow Of course this movie is an anti war movie. Anti war doesn't mean, that the storyline has to be about flowers and bees. The storyline of "Das Boot" is completely against war and it was to show the sheer insanity and absurdity of this war. This movie doesn't glorify anything and these guys even shit their pants all the time, so you obviously didn't understand the movie or you still don't know what an anti war movie is about.
@Lintflas I'm sorry, but it's you who does not understand. This movie is based on a BOOK, written by a JOURNALIST who was present on a U-Boat during World War 2. The journalist in the film is supposed to be him. He did not write an anti-war book. Rather he wrote a book about what life was like on a U-Boot in those times. If you see REAL anti-war films like The Thin Red Line and Born on the Fourth of July for example, you will find they are very different from this one.
@clovermoocow And what if one faces the reality of war? IHMO it's best to make people come to their own consequence rather than put something into their mouth ready made. This story is no doubt anti-war. It clearly states that heroism has no sense at all. War's about economics & politics and completely anti-human. Utterly profound & senseless. These people're no heroes but poor men on a senseless duty while being sentenced to death. Pls compare it to US war movies and you'll find the difference.
"Uttering deep concerns about the end result, Buchheim felt that unlike his clearly anti-war novel the adaptation was 'another re-glorification and re-mystification'[4] of the German WWII U-boat war, German heroism and nationalism. He called the film a cross between a 'cheap, shallow American action flick'[4] and a 'contemporary German propaganda newsreel from World War II'.[4]"
@Lintflas So in other words...war is FUN. It's the politics that suck which is made by old bastards in suits. I propose in future armies have wars using blanks...just for fun. Fuck dying for some old cunt so he can make a few billion...
after surving repeated attacks, nearly destroyed many times over they make back to base only to be taken out by a stupid air raid, I've never stopped thinking about it.
@mikesway23 I assume there's a hidden message in it. If I'm correct he was trying to convey the fact that these guys were not beaten honoroubly in battle but a comparitively cowardly and random air raid attack. Probably done to reinforce the fact that what these guys did was heroic in no uncertain terms. Also to highlight the irony of the wat..remember this is a German film shot in the early 80s..they were just beginning to contemplate pubilcly what had happened in WW2.
Like most naval warfare, the Battle of the Atlantic was fought at long-distance; the enemy was thousands of yards away. Seeing men dying in such agony up close, screaming for help, and then having to leave them behind to die brought the brutality of the war up close for the crew of U96. What a great film this is; always loved it.
Regarding picking up survivors......Convoys and escorts were under orders not to stop for survivors (merchant or naval) Think about it, ships have been sunk by a u-boat, why stop and put another ship at risk. Often there would be a small vessel,(i.e a large salvage tug astern of the convoy ) for the job of rescue.
i chose to do this movie for an oral presentation and i got an A+!! HELLS YES!! really is worth the 3 hours of watching, i got the goose bumps so many times. i showed this scene to my class and the teacher cried!
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I'm not 'fan' of the A.Bomb. But if that what it took to end that horrible war, so be it. That island hopping was a killing field for Japs and Yanks. And an invasion of the Japanese mainland was going to double those numbers easy. I heard Japan wanted to surrender too, but that's heresay. That bomb cut all that bullshit out real clean.
Yes, this shows the compassion in war even from the Germans.And yet, orders are no one gets picked up. The British rescue ships probably did cock up (in the story) by not picking up the survivors from the merchant ship. Strictly,l Herr Capitan was right to leave the to die. Sad.
Well, really the Uboats had no means in which to harbor prisoners anyways...and the British were in fact in many cases under orders not to rescue Uboat crews until they had a positive identification and confirmation of the Uboats ship number and the captain. There were cases when British crew men were ordered not to let Uboat men climb up the side ropes and dropped them back into the water b/c they got no clear identification. But, war is war, and on the high seas your options are very limited.
...and showing Stalin and the Soviets the US and its Allies were prepared to fight by any means necessary for Asia and Europe. We're all better for it...IMO.
Well...I wouldn't say the Japanese should "bless the A-Bomb" however you are right in the fact that essentially it saved millions of American and Japanese lives...and kept the Soviets from trying to invade more Eastern European countries and Hokkaido.
As distasteful as the concept is...partially BECAUSE of this 'new and cruel bomb' (as Hirohito called it )...and the fact that the US allowed the Emperor to retain his throne...we are dealing with the prosperous Japan we see today. It's a shame it had to happen, but the UNRIVALED barbarity with which the the war was conducted on ALL sides necessitated the most expedient means of ending it.
What I don't get is that there were two destroyers there trying to destroy the U-boat. Why didn't either of those destroyers rescue their fellow Britishers on that tanker?
Hard to say. The destroyers may have been engaged elsewhere, rescuing other crews. During this part of the war the escorts were badly overstretched. Ship-to-ship communication was often limited to semaphore lamps, which made cooperation more difficult. Escorts would observe radio silence so as not to give away their positions. Later in the war, they had short range radios.
Too much in a hurry, first to pin down and try to sink the U-96 then to catch up again with the convoy to keep it protected from further attacks from other submarines in case they were working on a "Wolf Pack".
Back on 1941 British ASW resources were tight so they could assign very few escort ships for each convoy.
@willingtorisk Someone always wins in war. Thats why it's called war. You would think someone so quick to diagnose humanity as psychopathic and paranoid would understand a simple term.
@AdognamedOp No one wins in WAR I have spoken with many Vets from WW2 ,Korean War, Vietnam, and Iraq with all the Wars, the boundaries remain the same.
The atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nuclear attacks near the end of World War II against the Empire of Japan by the United States at the executive order of U.S. President Harry S. Truman on August 6 and 9, 1945, respectively
The bombs killed as many as 140,000 people in Hiroshima and 80,000 in Nagasaki.
Japan already tryed to make a peace treaty with the Us, But it was declined cuz the Us would only agree to a, Unconditionaly? surrender, and nothing else. And Japan did not want their Emperor being blamed and possably court marshalled.
That´s all true.I was surprised that my previous comment had so many negative thumbs down(-5).Some people just want to react with emotions when it comes to history or present politics.Ultimately Japanese government had a choice before nukes were used.
American High Command's own estimate said the Invasion of Japan (which would have taken place without nuclear weapons) would have cost as much as one million American casulties and anywhere between five and ten million Japanese lives. Yes, the two bombings were a horrid thing. But they were much better than the truly staggering death toll that would have resulted from invading Japan proper.
well what we 2 have said is not the whole trouth, witch it very importand. There is a long line of events and dicisions? that need to be known on why this was happening.
My opinion is that the bombs did not need to be used, Us just wanted to show the world and know the effects. My opinion only.
The A-bombs, in contrast to the conventional fire-bombing, were merciful. The problem people have with the bomb is all psychological. But, month after month, vastly, VASTLY more destruction, carnage, suffering, death and tonnage of bombing was taking place in fire bombing. Hundreds of times as many people were dying on a regular basis, but "regular bombs" didn't seem to move the Japanese.
It wasn't the "US wanting the world to know the effects." It was stubborn Japan settling for no less.
The problem *I* have with nuclear weapons is that they continue to kill years after the event. I doubt any firebombing (as dreadful as they were) gave anyone cancer. But nobody back then had any idea what fallout was capable of.
But I agree with you that some military use of the bomb had to occure. Blowing up an unoccupied island (as some had suggested) wouldn't have been enough.
"The thing" about the A-bomb is psychological, not that it was more destructive than what was already going on. Even INCLUDING the harm of radiation, the fire-bombing campaigns left vastly more people dead. What's the difference if they died that instant or later? Incendiary burns take time to kill too, and are also agonizing... the only difference is in our heads.
Agreed, the "demonstration" idea is bunk. If a demo would have made a difference, Nagasaki would not have been bombed.
But, my response to the fact that nuclear weapons are harmful long afterwards is that at least countless cities in Japan were allowed to be left unharmed and countless sums of Japanese were not killed in order to end the war. To me, that was a bargain morally. Japan frankly didn't do anything to deserve such a break, but the thanks America gets for making it easier for them to surrender is generations of moral distortions and disdain.
I don't recall any Japanese apologizing for anything.
The A-Bomb saved more Japanese lives than many emotionally compromised revisionists want to confront. Had there been no A-Bomb, Japan would have been leveled, the destruction would have been total.
The Japanese, of ALL people, should bless the A-Bomb.
The cities were all going to look that way anyway, but just smelling like TNT instead of Uranium. Thank God, it only took two leveled cities to end it, instead of dozens upon dozens.
Blaming the US doesn't take a brain, just a liberal.
"We can no longer direct the war with any hope of success. The only course left is for Japan's one hundred million people to sacrifice their lives by charging the enemy to make them lose the will to fight."
-the War Journal of the Japanese Imperial Headquarters
THAT is why it took more than merely an A-bomb to save the Japanese people from their own arrogant emperor...
Military officers can have erroneous opinions like the rest of us. Why else would there be military blunders?
Your quote has not impressed me.
your comment works good for me to :)
Seriusly. More schoolard? ppl then you and me have debated this ever since I first was tested. If they cant agree on what was right and whats wrong, I dont think you and me know the answear to it either.
When you say "Japan tried to make peace," exactly WHO are you talking about? Opinion in Japan was split between those who wanted to surrender and those who were willing to fight to the death. Unfortunately, the generals and those in power in the government were ready to die in glorious battle. Those who were trying to negotiate terms were assasinated. Please read "Hell to Pay: Operation DOWNFALL and the Invasion of Japan, 1945-1947" by D. M. Giangreco.
On July 28, Japanese papers reported that the Potsdam declaration had been rejected by the Japanese government. That afternoon, Prime Minister Kantaro Suzuki declared at a press conference that the Potsdam Declaration was no more than a rehash (yakinaoshi) of the Cairo Declaration and that the government intended to ignore it (mokusatsu lit. "kill by silence")
But still the point is, Japan (To me the emperor and the priminister "is" the official Japan). tried to get negotiations going but the demands could/would not be met and the allies knew that. Any on the Why, I have already stated.
@eddydamaskus It's amazing how many people still belive in lies that "Wilhelm Gustloff" and "Steuben" were hospital or refugee ships. Both were overtaken by the Kriegsmarine as transporters. They were armed with flak guns and bomb launchers. There was no red cross sign. So, according to the international law, Soviets had full right to destroy them. I strongly reccomend to study about events on "Cap Arcona", "Thielbeck" and "Athen", May the 3rd 1945. My grandmother was on one of them.
@djscotty1111 She passed when I was a little boy. My mother said that she never wanted to talk about it. If she lived longer I would've asked her. I know only that she was one of the few who managed to survive. It has to be one of the ships stated above, my mother was born near Kiel a year after this disaster. Most likely my grandma was on Thielbeck.
One of the top US sub captains, Mush Morton, shot Japanese survivors in the water. War may be hell, but submarine warfare must be the lowest level during WWII. By it's nature, there can be little mercy.
You're right, rcde4ever. "Theirs not to make reply, theirs not to reason why, theirs but to do and die"(Tennyson). If only President Bush used not such words like "axis of evil" and "crusade."
man that must have been tough. I mean he was glad to have sunk the ship, but then he remembered that he had just killed innocent civilians, and couldnt save them. He just had to order all back slow and slip back into the deep.
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Such an amazing movie. Even though they were on the wrong side, you cant underestimate the bravery of all submariners in wartime, I cant imagine just how scary it must have been going to sea in nothing more than a tin can with the threat of being torpedoed at any time! Thanks for sharing.
What do you mean the wrong side? War is not so simple that you just "pick sides" and decide what is right and what is wrong. I am anti-fascist, anti-falangist, and anti-nazi, but these men here wer not fighting because they were evil people, in other words on the wrong side.
I hope you understand what I am trying to say, I am not trying to be rude or anything.
I'm simply saying in war, there are no winners, and it is not as simple as to just say "the good guys vs the bad guys"
@rcde4ever but, did afganistan or irak, or gorgia ( the nations the us and russia reasently have bein in war with, and therefor my comperesion as of now.) have any sub fleet to match those of the major powers of today? the answer is simple -No. and therefor is hard to compare at all. and i dare to say that during it´s peak the kreigsmarin had the best sub / u-boat in our history ( sofar ). i i have a feeling that many of you are gonna argue with me on this matter. and soz for my bad english OUT!
@rcde4ever i agree. and if u would allow me to add a few things: in every war we all tend to forget that the enemy solders are humans too, just wering a different uniform. it´s sad to see just how ignorent this world truly is... 1 thing is certain ( wrong spelld but u get the point ) the nazis were a bunch of a-holes to say the least. But they sure had the best submerine force if u compare to their enemys of thair time. yeah sure the us and russia have big powerfull sub fleets even as we speak..
@rcde4ever You got it right their my friend, there are no winners or right and wrong good and bad, the ordinary man finds himself a pawn expendable but the ones who declare war sit in comfort polishing their medals.
I wouldn't call it an error, it's the dramaturgical adaption of the film. In a number of other situation the movie don't follow the book. Of course this scene is put in the way it is because the Laconia incident, with a huge American failure, is very famous. The book has many more chapters with the "picking up seamen"-problem, but the movie compressed it. And Army Air Corps/Air Force? Mein Gott, schlußendlich dasselbe. (Actually the same.)
This scene was a straight consequence of a war crime and fault of the American Air Force after American Bombers attacked three German U-Boats with clearly recognisable Red Cross and hundreds of seamen on life rafts. (U-156, U-506 and U-507) So the order was not to help seamen when sank a ship: Order Laconia.
The scene is so intense; well done Jürgen! Gottverdammte Sauzucht. ;-)
There are a few minor errors in what you say. The movie is set in Dec. 1941, and the Laconia Incident took place on Sept. 12, 1942. There was no such think as American Air Force then, it was Army Air Corps.
But yes, at the time the movie took place, it wasn't unheard of for a U-boat to surface and give some aid to those in a life raft.
if you saw the actors of that days now you would laugh. most of them had their best time during das boot. for sure they became pretty popular and succesful, but they never reached such a quality again. for example ralf richter, uwe ochsenknecht, martin semmelrogge. herbert grönemeyer, the mainactor leutnant weber is a famous singer today and almost anybody knows he used to be an actor 20 years ago :)
Hallo Randicass ! Ich habe genauso gedacht, bis ich das Buch von Otto Skorzeny: Meine Kommandounternehmen gelesen habe. Glaub mir, Du verstehst es dann.
Kann Dir das Buch nur wärmstens empfehlen. Aber keine leichte Kost, das sage ich Dir gleich...
tja guter film,ich versteh manch kommentar allerdings nicht,weil die zu dieser szenerie gar nicht passen...es geht um die U-Boot Besatzung und wies real so zuging,was hat den der Holocaoust oder der Addi damit jetzt zu tun ?
Bis zum heutigen Tage verstehe ich nicht, warum wir icht einen einzigen Spion in Bletchley Park gehabt haben. Enigigma war breits 41 geknackt, und nach der "Griechen Walze" ein Jahr später durch Allen Turing. Die Gegner wussten die Koordinaten unserer U-Boote. Unsere Abwehr hat auf der ganzen Linie versagt.
Hallo Randicass ! Ich habe genauso gedacht, bis ich das Buch von Otto Skorzeny: Meine Kommandounternehmen gelesen habe. Glaub mir, Du verstehst es dann.
Kann Dir das Buch nur wärmstens empfehlen. Aber keine leichte Kost, das sage ich Dir gleich...
Hey buddy Ill look it up in my closest library Im at a University right now, but I dont have a worth while novel to read. I enjoy reading and if I can Find "Iron Coffins" by Werner I promise I'll read it I have a motivation thats all it takes thanks for being a good scholar.
"thanks for being a good scholar" Heh. I got PAID for that. Years back, I worked for the software company Dynamix, and was assigned to help with a U-Boat simulator, "Aces of the Deep." Over the next year or so, I'd go through a book or two a week on my own time, and go over microfilm U-Boat ship's logs and such on the company clock. We sent our historian to Gernamy to interview captains Erich Topp, Otto Kretschmer, and Reinhardt Hardegen. I need to find these and post them on YouTube.
I dont know anything but I know that in those days navel warfare was brutal, if you watch the history channel and you have seen the Bismarck episode... they had a german sailor aboard the poor bastard he was stationed on a lower deck his words exactly when he reached the deck to abondon ship..."there werent dead bodies on deack there was chopped meat..he said peices of bodies. The guy choked up its a sad reality. Bismarck sunk the HMS Hood Great Britain entire navy almost sank the Bismarck
"I dont know anything" fffttt. I would have to disagree with THAT, chum. I've seen piss ignorance on the march on YouTube, and you're not in that parade.
See if you can find a copy of "Iron Coffins" by Herbert A. Werner. Makes "Das Boot" look like a picnic.
Its hard to get to the deck when your stationed at the bottom of the ship and the thousands of tons of water shes taking on impede your movement, not to mention compartments being ordered to seal off so the ship doesnt go down as quickly... to save OTHERS lives.
"Its hard to get to the deck when your stationed at the bottom" Agreed. The kind of thing to cause nightmares THINKING about. One of the first things that often happens is the power goes out, so no lights. You have no idea if there's a raging fire on the other side of that closed hatch. The sea is so thick with oil, that water you swallowed will poison you. Explosions have shifted the ship's frame so that you couldn't get that hatch open without a cutting tourch....
The Germans did practice unrestricted submarine warfare however Britain would like to say they were helpless civilian vessels. This is true, but when they are loaded with weapons and other military supplies traveling through a combat zone they become targets. The Allies did the same thing read about Dresden before you call the Germans out on their actions.
"The Germans did practice unrestricted submarine warfare" For MUCH of the war, yes. But at the start of both wars, the U-Boats tried to stick to the Hague Convention, and search ships first before sinking. In both wars, it didn't take the U-boat captains long to see this was suicide, pure and simple.
"before you call the Germans out" Not all Germans acted like the SS. When Kretschmer was captured, he dined that evening with Cdr. McIntyre. Sailors are all brothers, friend, no matter the uniform.
eh Lusitania wasnt even mistaken as a passenger cruiser! the crew knew it was passenger and the yhad to folllow orders, when lusitania sunk manye people called the kaiser a murderer, lol and the captain was even almost court martialed for just following orders!
"the captain was even almost court martialed for just following orders!" Interesting. I wasn't able to find out anyting about that. I DID notice that the captain, Walther Schwieger, was later given the "Blue Max" (Pour le Merite). Could you tell me where I can find out more about Schwieger?
Drakken682 It would seem , your Moral values are , a bit askew, the U Boot had No other, aim than to sink Boats mainly Civilian Merchant boats, a Submarine is by its Nature a vessel, of stealth, it never shows its Flag before an attack, it Fires a weapon without warning, on Surface ships, even when the Cargo of that ship may be in doubt !! and the surface ship, maybe from any nation, carrying any cargo ie men women children, aka the Luistania, circa 1916 or Kinder ships bound for Canada ww2
"maybe from any nation, carrying any cargo ie men women children, aka the Luistania." The Lusitania was British, and as such was under orders to radio any U-Boat sightings and to ram the U-Boat, if possible. Had Schwieger of the U-20 surfaced and tried to search the Lusitania, he would have been destroyed. As you said, subs BY THEIR NATURE are creatures of stealth. Anything else would be suicide.
There's those who say the Lusitania carried ammunition, BTW... A search of the wreck is in order
Germany attempted to follow Prize Rules set out by the Hague Conventions for the first 2 months of WWII. You ARE familiar with prize rules? Ironically, one of the first U-Boat victims was the passenger ship "Athinia." Kptlt Lemp of the U-30 mistook her for an auxiliary cruiser and attacked without warning. "In fact, following the report of the sinking of the Athenia, the Germans issue additional instructions curbing mercantile warfare."
-- Chronology of the War at Sea, 1939-1945, Jurgen Rohwer
Oh, indeed. The last U-boat victem was the SS Black Point, sunk May 5 bu the U-853, under Captain Helmut Fromsdorf, off the coast of Rhode Island. The U-977 didn't surrender at all, it left Norway on May 2, and eventually sailed for Argentina.
I think this scene is the most important point of this movie "The boat".
Under the crazy controll of Nazi, they did the dirtiest act of all.
After that they found what is the real fear of death on the bottom of Strait of Gibraltar.
After terrible struggle, they found the way to flow up and returned to the mother port.
But there, a more terrible fate was waiting for them.
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And the actual number of times a German officer sobbed while sinking British ships - ZERO.
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@Nominandum1 Let me write you something about German civilians: my grandma's ship had been sunk close to the seashore and many people were able to reach the beach. Majority of them were KL prisoners. "Normal" people from nearby village came with axes, picks and shovels and slew the survivors. My grandma was saved only because she spoke accent free German and didn't wear prision clothes. I'm not sorry about Gustloff passangers, they have been working for the regime. I'm only sorry about children.
autoskp 4 months ago
What is this movie???
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VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
Thank You for sharing. From your Grandmother to your Mother to you. If she did not survive very unlikely I would be talking with you hearing this story .
RIP your Grandmother
I will Google that ship
djscotty1111 5 months ago
i dont understand why they wasted one more torpedo on that ship...
That ship was already sinking~
CMKeeenT 5 months ago
these submarines belonged to the invincible German submarine fleet.
The fleet was called 'wolf pack' These submarines for a long time kept at bay.
Seamen of the Russian and British supplies.
realSatanail 6 months ago in playlist Das Boot
Masterpiece.
Jansitz 7 months ago
This is cinema. This film is...
This is real cinema.
ezekieloak 8 months ago
2:00 Hitler would not care less. The Germans did NOT like the war anymore than we (Canadians) did.
TheCharacterActor 8 months ago 2
It was not English tanker, it vas Norwegian tanker s/s Sveve. My dad sailed on it but left it only two weeks before distroy
Kurt4380 9 months ago
The greatest war movie ever made.
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German spirit! ! !
They never give it up till the last…
However, for anything…
For a country?
For a family?
For the mother country?
Why ?
shihobo 11 months ago
funny that the english media and a lot of english people still keep the hate towards us germans alive. might it be that those guys know that by bombing our country, our cities our civilians to bits their country behaved just as barbaric as we did. and when it comes to bombing they behaved even worse. it's hard to admit such crimes isn't it? we continue to appologize for centuries. you prefer to ignore your guilt by hating us. do as you like, but no matter what ... we WON'T forget what you did.
rheinsand 11 months ago 4
@rheinsand Firstly let me say im not trying to hate on Germany, the new generation of Germans should not be held accountable for the actions of those before them. However nazi Germany did start a war that claimed 50- 70 million lives, the deadliest war in human history and committed many atrocities on top of that.
Just as how you wont forget how your country was bombed, the world wont forget all the lives lost due to the war nazi germany started.
FoxHoundsfu 10 months ago
@FoxHoundsfu the truth is a bit more complicated
langhard1 9 months ago
@FoxHoundsfu From reading literally hundreds of books on the war, it seems clear to me war was inevitable. Dont forget our allies the Soviets invaded Poland at the same time as the Germans. Yet the UK and France declared war on Germany and allied themselves with the Soviets because of the invasion of Poland???? Now that cannot make any sense in any way. Totally cynical politicians, lying thieving bastards the lot of them.
discodisco2012 9 months ago
@rheinsand I am English, I absolutely cannot understand why the UK declared war on Germany yet our politicians saw fit to allie themselves with the filthy communists, who then went on to threaten us with nuclear attack for the next 60 years. We should have helped you guys rid the world of communism, the leaders of our 'labour party' are marxists and they have pretty much destroyed my nation over the last decade. Dont blame us all for the errors of our leaders as we also dont blame all of you.
discodisco2012 9 months ago
@rheinsand Ich fühle trauriger für Deutschland als ich mache von der restlichen Welt. Die Brite und die Amerikaner sind solche SCHLECHTEN Gewinner die sie haben gemacht Deutschland leidet für den ersten Krieg, den sie sich nicht angefangen haben.
TheCharacterActor 8 months ago
@rheinsand
Nothing more pathetic than a bully who cries when he gets hit back! The average English person DOES NOT hate Germany of Germans. We did drop an inordinate amount of bombs on Germany, but only after you had invaded a dozen countries beforehand, laid waste to their armies, and subjugated their peoples. War is war, and, with all due respect, you started the bloody thing.....not us!
PBSmithy 2 months ago
@rheinsand I don't hate Germans, my grandmother, she... I could understand why as a child of Russian origin, luckily evaded with her mother though Belgium onto a ship to America. Why people joined the Nazis (not a group I'm per say fond of yet understand it to a point) weather out of an urge to grow out of poverty, fear or other, bad times, But a ww1 German soldier once said it best, if just the leaders were to fight it out with clubs, their would be no war, and it would be settled quick.
marlboromike2100 1 month ago
@rheinsand You're quite right about the media going over the top about Germany, but quite frankly it's little more than a joke. I don't believe anyone in England really hates Germans. However, saying that English people should feel guilty about anything that happened seems to be motivated by emotion rather than anything based on fact. In fact,arther like the Journalists you criticise.
kaioxygen 3 weeks ago
@rheinsand You Germans were responsible for the vast majority of atrocities during World War 2 (and World War 1 for that matter). You behaved like savages, and your genocidal murder of 6 million Jews was just the worst example. You deserve to hang your heads in shame for at least another century, you will never be completely trusted.
WinchesterRanger 1 week ago
One of the greatest peace movies ever made
Quaker
z95xacfn 1 year ago
I love this WW2-movie, because it's not pulpy or slick-looking it's more gritty & realistic-looking
Deader87 1 year ago
I bet the limeys wish now that the Germans had won the War now there country is full of brown scum
Treblinka2012 1 year ago
@Treblinka2012
learn to spell first; and then be a racist piece of shit; then come back to me... You are so full of it it's amazing!
Leck mich Du Arschloch! Which Limeys do you mean? I'll stick you in a flaming sea of oil anyday..!
SuperQuiller 1 year ago
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@Treblinka2012
learn to spell first; and then be a racist piece of shit; then come back to me... You are so full of it it's amazing!
Leck mich Du Arschloch! Which Limeys do you mean? I'll stick you in a flaming sea of oil anyday..!
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@Treblinka2012
learn to spell first; and then be a racist piece of shit; then come back to me... You are so full of it it's amazing!
Leck mich Du Arschloch! Which Limeys do you mean? I'll stick you in a flaming sea of oil anyday..!
SuperQuiller 1 year ago
I bet the limes wish now that the Germans had won the War now there country is full of brown scum
Treblinka2012 1 year ago
@Treblinka2012 It's Socialism we are stuck with here.I don't mind what the racial mix of the country is as long as we are free.The State controls more than 50% of the economy here!
jonnyy40 1 year ago
they would have not wasted a torpedo like that. the deck gun would have been a better choice to finish the wreck
glynamus 1 year ago
its not easy to see this scene, also for germans!
cabrio379 1 year ago
Minor technical observations.
The North Atlantic Ocean is never that smooth and calm even at the best of times.
A U-boat captain would never waste another torpedo on a target that far gone.
But this war film still gets my vote as the best and most realistic.
agwhitaker 1 year ago
FUCKING WAR NEVERMORE!!!!!
Micha35 1 year ago
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The best film ever made!!!!!!
uboot1967 1 year ago
This is a very impressive movie that teach us stupidity of the war.
Hollywood can never create such a high quality movie as this. deep,very deep.
no1kiyoko 1 year ago 7
This is one of the greatest anti war movies I've ever seen, and the soundtrack is just epic.
Lintflas 1 year ago
@Lintflas It's not an anti-war film...the opposite. It shows how the camaraderie and bonding goes beyond the "reason" for the war in the first place. Unless you have military experience you wont understand. It comes to a point where you don't fight for the "cause" but for each other. The sub service in WW2 was quite unique since they spent months alone and so were not so influenced by the politics, hence fought for each others survival. Anti-war = anti-military. This isn't in the least..!!
clovermoocow 1 year ago
@clovermoocow Are you sure that you know what anti war movie means? I guess you don't.
Lintflas 1 year ago
@Lintflas Yes. Anti-war movies are against war. War is executed (made) by armies. So "anti-war" means "anti-military". Right? That's obvious. Now this movie is made for military-aficionados, people who like armies and all things military. The book which this movie is based on was written by an army journalist who took a tour on a U-Boat during World War 2. This movie is not anti-war anything, in fact it glorifies the heroism of these men. What this movie is though is ANTI-POLITICAL. Get it now?
clovermoocow 1 year ago
@clovermoocow Of course this movie is an anti war movie. Anti war doesn't mean, that the storyline has to be about flowers and bees. The storyline of "Das Boot" is completely against war and it was to show the sheer insanity and absurdity of this war. This movie doesn't glorify anything and these guys even shit their pants all the time, so you obviously didn't understand the movie or you still don't know what an anti war movie is about.
Lintflas 1 year ago 2
@Lintflas I'm sorry, but it's you who does not understand. This movie is based on a BOOK, written by a JOURNALIST who was present on a U-Boat during World War 2. The journalist in the film is supposed to be him. He did not write an anti-war book. Rather he wrote a book about what life was like on a U-Boot in those times. If you see REAL anti-war films like The Thin Red Line and Born on the Fourth of July for example, you will find they are very different from this one.
clovermoocow 1 year ago 3
@clovermoocow And what if one faces the reality of war? IHMO it's best to make people come to their own consequence rather than put something into their mouth ready made. This story is no doubt anti-war. It clearly states that heroism has no sense at all. War's about economics & politics and completely anti-human. Utterly profound & senseless. These people're no heroes but poor men on a senseless duty while being sentenced to death. Pls compare it to US war movies and you'll find the difference.
petrisz 1 year ago
@clovermoocow
"Uttering deep concerns about the end result, Buchheim felt that unlike his clearly anti-war novel the adaptation was 'another re-glorification and re-mystification'[4] of the German WWII U-boat war, German heroism and nationalism. He called the film a cross between a 'cheap, shallow American action flick'[4] and a 'contemporary German propaganda newsreel from World War II'.[4]"
- Wikipedia
OnkelMickwald 1 year ago
@Lintflas So in other words...war is FUN. It's the politics that suck which is made by old bastards in suits. I propose in future armies have wars using blanks...just for fun. Fuck dying for some old cunt so he can make a few billion...
clovermoocow 1 year ago
after surving repeated attacks, nearly destroyed many times over they make back to base only to be taken out by a stupid air raid, I've never stopped thinking about it.
mikesway23 1 year ago
@mikesway23 I assume there's a hidden message in it. If I'm correct he was trying to convey the fact that these guys were not beaten honoroubly in battle but a comparitively cowardly and random air raid attack. Probably done to reinforce the fact that what these guys did was heroic in no uncertain terms. Also to highlight the irony of the wat..remember this is a German film shot in the early 80s..they were just beginning to contemplate pubilcly what had happened in WW2.
clovermoocow 1 year ago
this is very high quality video.RESPEKT
MultiSodium 1 year ago
Like most naval warfare, the Battle of the Atlantic was fought at long-distance; the enemy was thousands of yards away. Seeing men dying in such agony up close, screaming for help, and then having to leave them behind to die brought the brutality of the war up close for the crew of U96. What a great film this is; always loved it.
Clevinger67 1 year ago
Regarding picking up survivors......Convoys and escorts were under orders not to stop for survivors (merchant or naval) Think about it, ships have been sunk by a u-boat, why stop and put another ship at risk. Often there would be a small vessel,(i.e a large salvage tug astern of the convoy ) for the job of rescue.
SuperAncientmariner 1 year ago
i chose to do this movie for an oral presentation and i got an A+!! HELLS YES!! really is worth the 3 hours of watching, i got the goose bumps so many times. i showed this scene to my class and the teacher cried!
obenointment 1 year ago 2
I saw the director's cut,is like 3 hrs 25mins!
kondurperusix 1 year ago
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I'm not 'fan' of the A.Bomb. But if that what it took to end that horrible war, so be it. That island hopping was a killing field for Japs and Yanks. And an invasion of the Japanese mainland was going to double those numbers easy. I heard Japan wanted to surrender too, but that's heresay. That bomb cut all that bullshit out real clean.
machokingwwf 2 years ago
This makes me cry everytime.
TheNaomiengland 2 years ago
Yes, this shows the compassion in war even from the Germans.And yet, orders are no one gets picked up. The British rescue ships probably did cock up (in the story) by not picking up the survivors from the merchant ship. Strictly,l Herr Capitan was right to leave the to die. Sad.
pix042 1 year ago
Well, really the Uboats had no means in which to harbor prisoners anyways...and the British were in fact in many cases under orders not to rescue Uboat crews until they had a positive identification and confirmation of the Uboats ship number and the captain. There were cases when British crew men were ordered not to let Uboat men climb up the side ropes and dropped them back into the water b/c they got no clear identification. But, war is war, and on the high seas your options are very limited.
johnnyphoenix74 1 year ago
...and showing Stalin and the Soviets the US and its Allies were prepared to fight by any means necessary for Asia and Europe. We're all better for it...IMO.
johnnyphoenix74 2 years ago
Well...I wouldn't say the Japanese should "bless the A-Bomb" however you are right in the fact that essentially it saved millions of American and Japanese lives...and kept the Soviets from trying to invade more Eastern European countries and Hokkaido.
johnnyphoenix74 2 years ago
As distasteful as the concept is...partially BECAUSE of this 'new and cruel bomb' (as Hirohito called it )...and the fact that the US allowed the Emperor to retain his throne...we are dealing with the prosperous Japan we see today. It's a shame it had to happen, but the UNRIVALED barbarity with which the the war was conducted on ALL sides necessitated the most expedient means of ending it.
johnnyphoenix74 2 years ago
Spot on. (From London).
pix042 1 year ago
Great scene jrommel123...thx.
johnnyphoenix74 2 years ago
Der Dampfer liegt quer ab...also kein Fangschuss. Alles Klar?
tonytoga 2 years ago
was is n fangschuss?
uploadmaser78 2 years ago
Ein Fangschuss ist ein Schuss um der Dampfer zu verzenken
metalmiel 2 years ago
What I don't get is that there were two destroyers there trying to destroy the U-boat. Why didn't either of those destroyers rescue their fellow Britishers on that tanker?
old9skool9love 2 years ago
Hard to say. The destroyers may have been engaged elsewhere, rescuing other crews. During this part of the war the escorts were badly overstretched. Ship-to-ship communication was often limited to semaphore lamps, which made cooperation more difficult. Escorts would observe radio silence so as not to give away their positions. Later in the war, they had short range radios.
a0e0roberts 2 years ago 4
Simple, orders from the admiralty, if you stopped to pick up survivors you became a target yourself.
Anders2185 2 years ago 3
Too much in a hurry, first to pin down and try to sink the U-96 then to catch up again with the convoy to keep it protected from further attacks from other submarines in case they were working on a "Wolf Pack".
Back on 1941 British ASW resources were tight so they could assign very few escort ships for each convoy.
bfahren 2 years ago
OldSkool, It's something I pondered as well. There are many reasons, some have been covered by other commenters. Does seem cold tho.
DelphinusMinor 2 years ago
they were called for engagement some place else.
clustergarde 2 years ago
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War is fun.
When you win.
lol
wachaufeuropa 2 years ago
Nobody wins in war, except the psychopath who needs to consume paranoia.
willingtorisk 2 years ago 13
I think you forgot about the nature of man.
wachaufeuropa 2 years ago
@willingtorisk in the 20th century mainly american industrialists made great profit wins
langhard1 9 months ago
@willingtorisk Someone always wins in war. Thats why it's called war. You would think someone so quick to diagnose humanity as psychopathic and paranoid would understand a simple term.
AdognamedOp 5 months ago
@AdognamedOp No one wins in WAR I have spoken with many Vets from WW2 ,Korean War, Vietnam, and Iraq with all the Wars, the boundaries remain the same.
djscotty1111 5 months ago
@AdognamedOp what are you even talking about???
MCshlthead 3 months ago
very sad to see it and it shows the germans as humans who are also shocked
ruhrpotttyp 2 years ago 9
dose youtube have this movie?
kkevinn6 2 years ago
ja, kompletter fil liegt bereit
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Proudnewfoundlander1 2 years ago
Diversity exists, get used to it is exactly my point.
We're tribal by nature, but when was the last time we were in a tribe?
When was the last time you killed someone because their house had something you wanted from it?
Instinct can be overridden.
RedcoatMic24 2 years ago 5
Pollution exists, get used to it.
fdesouchecom 2 years ago 2
not forget:
30.januar 1945 a russian submarine under command from Alexander Marinesko send the "wilhelm gustloff" in the deep.
over 9000 people must die, no soldiers!
this was a warcrime!
kriegsverbrechen!
eddydamaskus 2 years ago 21
not forget:
The atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nuclear attacks near the end of World War II against the Empire of Japan by the United States at the executive order of U.S. President Harry S. Truman on August 6 and 9, 1945, respectively
The bombs killed as many as 140,000 people in Hiroshima and 80,000 in Nagasaki.
Korrget 2 years ago 4
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not forget:
December 7, 1941, when the Empire of Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, killing thousands of innocents, and thrusting the United States into World War II.
The Japanese got exactly what was coming to them in 1945, and could have avoided it all by not starting a war.
iwannarock252 2 years ago
Americans shouldn´t regret Hiroshima or Nagasagi.
Japanese army command didn´t want to surrender at any cost,even -46,when it was all said and done.
Their own fault(attacking Pearl Harbour).And they paid the price.War is hell.
Zoomarinful 2 years ago
Japan already tryed to make a peace treaty with the Us, But it was declined cuz the Us would only agree to a, Unconditionaly? surrender, and nothing else. And Japan did not want their Emperor being blamed and possably court marshalled.
blidderbla 2 years ago
That´s all true.I was surprised that my previous comment had so many negative thumbs down(-5).Some people just want to react with emotions when it comes to history or present politics.Ultimately Japanese government had a choice before nukes were used.
Zoomarinful 2 years ago 5
American High Command's own estimate said the Invasion of Japan (which would have taken place without nuclear weapons) would have cost as much as one million American casulties and anywhere between five and ten million Japanese lives. Yes, the two bombings were a horrid thing. But they were much better than the truly staggering death toll that would have resulted from invading Japan proper.
Tulane1991 2 years ago 4
well what we 2 have said is not the whole trouth, witch it very importand. There is a long line of events and dicisions? that need to be known on why this was happening.
My opinion is that the bombs did not need to be used, Us just wanted to show the world and know the effects. My opinion only.
blidderbla 2 years ago
The A-bombs, in contrast to the conventional fire-bombing, were merciful. The problem people have with the bomb is all psychological. But, month after month, vastly, VASTLY more destruction, carnage, suffering, death and tonnage of bombing was taking place in fire bombing. Hundreds of times as many people were dying on a regular basis, but "regular bombs" didn't seem to move the Japanese.
It wasn't the "US wanting the world to know the effects." It was stubborn Japan settling for no less.
TheJediCharles 2 years ago
The problem *I* have with nuclear weapons is that they continue to kill years after the event. I doubt any firebombing (as dreadful as they were) gave anyone cancer. But nobody back then had any idea what fallout was capable of.
But I agree with you that some military use of the bomb had to occure. Blowing up an unoccupied island (as some had suggested) wouldn't have been enough.
a0e0roberts 2 years ago
"The thing" about the A-bomb is psychological, not that it was more destructive than what was already going on. Even INCLUDING the harm of radiation, the fire-bombing campaigns left vastly more people dead. What's the difference if they died that instant or later? Incendiary burns take time to kill too, and are also agonizing... the only difference is in our heads.
Agreed, the "demonstration" idea is bunk. If a demo would have made a difference, Nagasaki would not have been bombed.
TheJediCharles 2 years ago
But, my response to the fact that nuclear weapons are harmful long afterwards is that at least countless cities in Japan were allowed to be left unharmed and countless sums of Japanese were not killed in order to end the war. To me, that was a bargain morally. Japan frankly didn't do anything to deserve such a break, but the thanks America gets for making it easier for them to surrender is generations of moral distortions and disdain.
I don't recall any Japanese apologizing for anything.
TheJediCharles 2 years ago
The A-Bomb saved more Japanese lives than many emotionally compromised revisionists want to confront. Had there been no A-Bomb, Japan would have been leveled, the destruction would have been total.
The Japanese, of ALL people, should bless the A-Bomb.
The cities were all going to look that way anyway, but just smelling like TNT instead of Uranium. Thank God, it only took two leveled cities to end it, instead of dozens upon dozens.
Blaming the US doesn't take a brain, just a liberal.
TheJediCharles 2 years ago
The use of this barberic weapon on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was not to any help in our war against Japan.
Us admiral Leahy, Chief of Staff -42-49
navenifickan 2 years ago
sry, it should be -any big help
navenifickan 2 years ago
So?
Military officers can have erroneous opinions like the rest of us. Why else would there be military blunders?
Your quote has not impressed me.
TheJediCharles 2 years ago
"We can no longer direct the war with any hope of success. The only course left is for Japan's one hundred million people to sacrifice their lives by charging the enemy to make them lose the will to fight."
-the War Journal of the Japanese Imperial Headquarters
THAT is why it took more than merely an A-bomb to save the Japanese people from their own arrogant emperor...
it's why it took TWO!
That 2nd bomb renders all moral debates impotent.
The Emperor practically demanded we do it.
TheJediCharles 2 years ago
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So?
Military officers can have erroneous opinions like the rest of us. Why else would there be military blunders?
Your quote has not impressed me.
your comment works good for me to :)
Seriusly. More schoolard? ppl then you and me have debated this ever since I first was tested. If they cant agree on what was right and whats wrong, I dont think you and me know the answear to it either.
Peace
navenifickan 2 years ago
When you say "Japan tried to make peace," exactly WHO are you talking about? Opinion in Japan was split between those who wanted to surrender and those who were willing to fight to the death. Unfortunately, the generals and those in power in the government were ready to die in glorious battle. Those who were trying to negotiate terms were assasinated. Please read "Hell to Pay: Operation DOWNFALL and the Invasion of Japan, 1945-1947" by D. M. Giangreco.
a0e0roberts 2 years ago 4
So you state that the Priminister of Japan, Suzuka was assasinated?
12 july 1945, he contacted Soviet on the behalf of the emperor, that they wanted peace.
The answear? came back 26 july. -Unconditionaly surrender.
blidderbla 2 years ago
On July 28, Japanese papers reported that the Potsdam declaration had been rejected by the Japanese government. That afternoon, Prime Minister Kantaro Suzuki declared at a press conference that the Potsdam Declaration was no more than a rehash (yakinaoshi) of the Cairo Declaration and that the government intended to ignore it (mokusatsu lit. "kill by silence")
a0e0roberts 2 years ago 2
No doubt about what you are saying is true.
But still the point is, Japan (To me the emperor and the priminister "is" the official Japan). tried to get negotiations going but the demands could/would not be met and the allies knew that. Any on the Why, I have already stated.
blidderbla 2 years ago
There was an ATTEMPT to assasinate Suzuki. Please read up on the Kyūjō Incident, an attempt at a coup d'état on Aug 14.
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fuckthissignoncrap 6 months ago
@eddydamaskus It's amazing how many people still belive in lies that "Wilhelm Gustloff" and "Steuben" were hospital or refugee ships. Both were overtaken by the Kriegsmarine as transporters. They were armed with flak guns and bomb launchers. There was no red cross sign. So, according to the international law, Soviets had full right to destroy them. I strongly reccomend to study about events on "Cap Arcona", "Thielbeck" and "Athen", May the 3rd 1945. My grandmother was on one of them.
autoskp 6 months ago
@autoskp The Tragedy and Brutality of War .
Your grandmother was on one of the ships which one ?
I have seen documentaries on the sinking of the ships.
djscotty1111 5 months ago
@djscotty1111 She passed when I was a little boy. My mother said that she never wanted to talk about it. If she lived longer I would've asked her. I know only that she was one of the few who managed to survive. It has to be one of the ships stated above, my mother was born near Kiel a year after this disaster. Most likely my grandma was on Thielbeck.
autoskp 5 months ago
the british submariners are also devils from the deep, fact is: WAR IS HELL!
eddydamaskus 2 years ago 4
One of the top US sub captains, Mush Morton, shot Japanese survivors in the water. War may be hell, but submarine warfare must be the lowest level during WWII. By it's nature, there can be little mercy.
a0e0roberts 2 years ago
Verdammt zäher Pott....
DA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
VERDAMMT! WARUM HAT DIE KEINER VOM SCHIFF GEHOLT? SO VIELE STUNDEN!!!
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sciry 2 years ago
my late father was a ww2 veteran...one of his friends was killed in a wolf pack oil tanker sinking like this
ffej980 2 years ago
This IS definitely one of the most moving and touching scenes in the whole movie.
deejayneamy 2 years ago 2
You're right, rcde4ever. "Theirs not to make reply, theirs not to reason why, theirs but to do and die"(Tennyson). If only President Bush used not such words like "axis of evil" and "crusade."
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emillangley 2 years ago
We are friendly nation for ever from Japan.
ytc27036 2 years ago 3
man that must have been tough. I mean he was glad to have sunk the ship, but then he remembered that he had just killed innocent civilians, and couldnt save them. He just had to order all back slow and slip back into the deep.
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conceil8 2 years ago
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piece of shit
scutumtempli 2 years ago
german army was an army of heroes
it was the stronger army in the world
saleta 2 years ago 3
Naja ob unsere Großväter solche Helden waren sei mal so dahingestellt... Bei 60 Millionen toten kann keiner stolz auf sich sein.
blueGoa 2 years ago 4
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Respect to the Nazi propaganda!!
Sobergr 2 years ago
And to the call of the fatherland ofc. lol. even kids would fight!
Sobergr 2 years ago
Dem hat´s das rückrad gebrochen!Rohr eins bewässern
schnapie07 2 years ago
best WW2 movie ever made hands down!
SPJohnstone1991 3 years ago 35
Such an amazing movie. Even though they were on the wrong side, you cant underestimate the bravery of all submariners in wartime, I cant imagine just how scary it must have been going to sea in nothing more than a tin can with the threat of being torpedoed at any time! Thanks for sharing.
GhostWatching 3 years ago
What do you mean the wrong side? War is not so simple that you just "pick sides" and decide what is right and what is wrong. I am anti-fascist, anti-falangist, and anti-nazi, but these men here wer not fighting because they were evil people, in other words on the wrong side.
I hope you understand what I am trying to say, I am not trying to be rude or anything.
I'm simply saying in war, there are no winners, and it is not as simple as to just say "the good guys vs the bad guys"
rcde4ever 2 years ago 30
You're exactly right.
The sooner humanity can ditch the whole idea of black/white then the happier the world would be.
No them vs us. Just humans hating humans for no reason. It'd solve all our problems.
RedcoatMic24 2 years ago
@rcde4ever but, did afganistan or irak, or gorgia ( the nations the us and russia reasently have bein in war with, and therefor my comperesion as of now.) have any sub fleet to match those of the major powers of today? the answer is simple -No. and therefor is hard to compare at all. and i dare to say that during it´s peak the kreigsmarin had the best sub / u-boat in our history ( sofar ). i i have a feeling that many of you are gonna argue with me on this matter. and soz for my bad english OUT!
Jaceric2 1 year ago
@rcde4ever i agree. and if u would allow me to add a few things: in every war we all tend to forget that the enemy solders are humans too, just wering a different uniform. it´s sad to see just how ignorent this world truly is... 1 thing is certain ( wrong spelld but u get the point ) the nazis were a bunch of a-holes to say the least. But they sure had the best submerine force if u compare to their enemys of thair time. yeah sure the us and russia have big powerfull sub fleets even as we speak..
Jaceric2 1 year ago
@rcde4ever You got it right their my friend, there are no winners or right and wrong good and bad, the ordinary man finds himself a pawn expendable but the ones who declare war sit in comfort polishing their medals.
HAPPYTHELEAF 1 year ago
I wouldn't call it an error, it's the dramaturgical adaption of the film. In a number of other situation the movie don't follow the book. Of course this scene is put in the way it is because the Laconia incident, with a huge American failure, is very famous. The book has many more chapters with the "picking up seamen"-problem, but the movie compressed it. And Army Air Corps/Air Force? Mein Gott, schlußendlich dasselbe. (Actually the same.)
xellossaxon 3 years ago
This scene was a straight consequence of a war crime and fault of the American Air Force after American Bombers attacked three German U-Boats with clearly recognisable Red Cross and hundreds of seamen on life rafts. (U-156, U-506 and U-507) So the order was not to help seamen when sank a ship: Order Laconia.
The scene is so intense; well done Jürgen! Gottverdammte Sauzucht. ;-)
xellossaxon 3 years ago 5
There are a few minor errors in what you say. The movie is set in Dec. 1941, and the Laconia Incident took place on Sept. 12, 1942. There was no such think as American Air Force then, it was Army Air Corps.
But yes, at the time the movie took place, it wasn't unheard of for a U-boat to surface and give some aid to those in a life raft.
a0e0roberts 3 years ago 3
the army air crops became the army air force in june 1941 so at the time the film took place it would have been USAAF
493175001 3 years ago
the best thing:
if you saw the actors of that days now you would laugh. most of them had their best time during das boot. for sure they became pretty popular and succesful, but they never reached such a quality again. for example ralf richter, uwe ochsenknecht, martin semmelrogge. herbert grönemeyer, the mainactor leutnant weber is a famous singer today and almost anybody knows he used to be an actor 20 years ago :)
GrasImOhr 3 years ago
Awesome movie! Reminds me of the awesome game: SILENT HUNTER 3 AND 4...
MisterVivid 3 years ago
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Fucking KRAUTS. The only good part of this movie is at the end when all the KRAUTS get killed!
cacaaleau 3 years ago
in my opinion too .. rcd.
salstream 3 years ago
In my opinion, this is the best World War II Movie
rcde4ever 3 years ago 33
i second that. it is really intense. (well thats what i remember since i was 11 or 12 when i first whatched it)
Imprezaman555 3 years ago 3
this film is very good if you watch you are lucky
celikpasa 3 years ago 3
I love this film.
AnthonyJFrame 3 years ago 8
Hallo Randicass ! Ich habe genauso gedacht, bis ich das Buch von Otto Skorzeny: Meine Kommandounternehmen gelesen habe. Glaub mir, Du verstehst es dann.
Kann Dir das Buch nur wärmstens empfehlen. Aber keine leichte Kost, das sage ich Dir gleich...
tuccoman 3 years ago
einer von meinen lieblingsfilmen!
einfach genial und real
srsebi 3 years ago
tja guter film,ich versteh manch kommentar allerdings nicht,weil die zu dieser szenerie gar nicht passen...es geht um die U-Boot Besatzung und wies real so zuging,was hat den der Holocaoust oder der Addi damit jetzt zu tun ?
stierhufe 3 years ago
Bis zum heutigen Tage verstehe ich nicht, warum wir icht einen einzigen Spion in Bletchley Park gehabt haben. Enigigma war breits 41 geknackt, und nach der "Griechen Walze" ein Jahr später durch Allen Turing. Die Gegner wussten die Koordinaten unserer U-Boote. Unsere Abwehr hat auf der ganzen Linie versagt.
Randicass 3 years ago
Hallo Randicass ! Ich habe genauso gedacht, bis ich das Buch von Otto Skorzeny: Meine Kommandounternehmen gelesen habe. Glaub mir, Du verstehst es dann.
Kann Dir das Buch nur wärmstens empfehlen. Aber keine leichte Kost, das sage ich Dir gleich...
tuccoman 3 years ago
Hey buddy Ill look it up in my closest library Im at a University right now, but I dont have a worth while novel to read. I enjoy reading and if I can Find "Iron Coffins" by Werner I promise I'll read it I have a motivation thats all it takes thanks for being a good scholar.
Panzerschrek1945 3 years ago
"thanks for being a good scholar" Heh. I got PAID for that. Years back, I worked for the software company Dynamix, and was assigned to help with a U-Boat simulator, "Aces of the Deep." Over the next year or so, I'd go through a book or two a week on my own time, and go over microfilm U-Boat ship's logs and such on the company clock. We sent our historian to Gernamy to interview captains Erich Topp, Otto Kretschmer, and Reinhardt Hardegen. I need to find these and post them on YouTube.
a0e0roberts 3 years ago
I dont know anything but I know that in those days navel warfare was brutal, if you watch the history channel and you have seen the Bismarck episode... they had a german sailor aboard the poor bastard he was stationed on a lower deck his words exactly when he reached the deck to abondon ship..."there werent dead bodies on deack there was chopped meat..he said peices of bodies. The guy choked up its a sad reality. Bismarck sunk the HMS Hood Great Britain entire navy almost sank the Bismarck
Panzerschrek1945 3 years ago
"I dont know anything" fffttt. I would have to disagree with THAT, chum. I've seen piss ignorance on the march on YouTube, and you're not in that parade.
See if you can find a copy of "Iron Coffins" by Herbert A. Werner. Makes "Das Boot" look like a picnic.
a0e0roberts 3 years ago
Its hard to get to the deck when your stationed at the bottom of the ship and the thousands of tons of water shes taking on impede your movement, not to mention compartments being ordered to seal off so the ship doesnt go down as quickly... to save OTHERS lives.
Panzerschrek1945 3 years ago
"Its hard to get to the deck when your stationed at the bottom" Agreed. The kind of thing to cause nightmares THINKING about. One of the first things that often happens is the power goes out, so no lights. You have no idea if there's a raging fire on the other side of that closed hatch. The sea is so thick with oil, that water you swallowed will poison you. Explosions have shifted the ship's frame so that you couldn't get that hatch open without a cutting tourch....
Brrrr....
a0e0roberts 3 years ago
LMAO, that ship is an inferno, there would never be anybody still on that.
patio87 3 years ago
The Germans did practice unrestricted submarine warfare however Britain would like to say they were helpless civilian vessels. This is true, but when they are loaded with weapons and other military supplies traveling through a combat zone they become targets. The Allies did the same thing read about Dresden before you call the Germans out on their actions.
Panzerschrek1945 3 years ago 4
"The Germans did practice unrestricted submarine warfare" For MUCH of the war, yes. But at the start of both wars, the U-Boats tried to stick to the Hague Convention, and search ships first before sinking. In both wars, it didn't take the U-boat captains long to see this was suicide, pure and simple.
"before you call the Germans out" Not all Germans acted like the SS. When Kretschmer was captured, he dined that evening with Cdr. McIntyre. Sailors are all brothers, friend, no matter the uniform.
a0e0roberts 3 years ago 3
eh Lusitania wasnt even mistaken as a passenger cruiser! the crew knew it was passenger and the yhad to folllow orders, when lusitania sunk manye people called the kaiser a murderer, lol and the captain was even almost court martialed for just following orders!
magicstorm1 3 years ago
"the captain was even almost court martialed for just following orders!" Interesting. I wasn't able to find out anyting about that. I DID notice that the captain, Walther Schwieger, was later given the "Blue Max" (Pour le Merite). Could you tell me where I can find out more about Schwieger?
a0e0roberts 3 years ago
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hahaha ja wunderschön. heil hitler
surplusdriller 3 years ago
Drakken682 It would seem , your Moral values are , a bit askew, the U Boot had No other, aim than to sink Boats mainly Civilian Merchant boats, a Submarine is by its Nature a vessel, of stealth, it never shows its Flag before an attack, it Fires a weapon without warning, on Surface ships, even when the Cargo of that ship may be in doubt !! and the surface ship, maybe from any nation, carrying any cargo ie men women children, aka the Luistania, circa 1916 or Kinder ships bound for Canada ww2
keirfree 3 years ago
"maybe from any nation, carrying any cargo ie men women children, aka the Luistania." The Lusitania was British, and as such was under orders to radio any U-Boat sightings and to ram the U-Boat, if possible. Had Schwieger of the U-20 surfaced and tried to search the Lusitania, he would have been destroyed. As you said, subs BY THEIR NATURE are creatures of stealth. Anything else would be suicide.
There's those who say the Lusitania carried ammunition, BTW... A search of the wreck is in order
a0e0roberts 3 years ago
Germany attempted to follow Prize Rules set out by the Hague Conventions for the first 2 months of WWII. You ARE familiar with prize rules? Ironically, one of the first U-Boat victims was the passenger ship "Athinia." Kptlt Lemp of the U-30 mistook her for an auxiliary cruiser and attacked without warning. "In fact, following the report of the sinking of the Athenia, the Germans issue additional instructions curbing mercantile warfare."
-- Chronology of the War at Sea, 1939-1945, Jurgen Rohwer
a0e0roberts 3 years ago
uboots were still operating in may 1945. they were so close to let americans fall. too few, too late.
bartolomeo1981 3 years ago
"uboots were still operating in may 1945"
Oh, indeed. The last U-boat victem was the SS Black Point, sunk May 5 bu the U-853, under Captain Helmut Fromsdorf, off the coast of Rhode Island. The U-977 didn't surrender at all, it left Norway on May 2, and eventually sailed for Argentina.
a0e0roberts 3 years ago