Pulse Motor (555 Timer Circuit) 006

[Masowai]

I had to bail on this video because it was too shaky and blurry. You need to remake it Mate. At that point, I'll give you a thumbs-up rating.

[MintEEV]

Put a diode backwards, this happens because current builds up at the wire.

[mike060187]

Try using a diode backwards on either pin of the relay. This will stop a spike coming through which could cause the "Flidding out" :P

[Jamieduk999]

u need a relay lol dumbass :P nice design tho

[URKIDN1]

get or back EMF out :o thats what happens with inductive loads "coils" it be canceling your relay EMF out how to stop this? increase your power factor by adding VAr's :D

[ccmtor]

coils store energy so you need a a switching diode to prevent feedback from the coil

[rainmanp7]

Yes can you send me the diagram for that circuit please ? I know what dto do with it.

[tcservices1]

ha ha you r using samr suply to power relay or wired it incorectly it should be made so the 555 timer input instead of cap is triger coil then output through transister or mosfeet the relay is not needed.

[merq100]

i cant understand what your saying!!!!!!!!!!

[ST0N3R420X420]

have you tried running the load on a seperate power source?

[UberWagen]

Turn signal :)

[niceribs]

Back emf from motor coil ? Diode for reverse emf.....and possibly a small ceramic capacitor across motor..........reverse emf on relay as well...try using a solid state relay!

[rakoonloufa88]

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[00011theman]

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[rakoonloufa88]

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[00011theman]

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[rakoonloufa88]

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[00011theman]

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[rakoonloufa88]

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[00011theman]

@rakoonloufa88 troll...

[rakoonloufa88]

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[grapes008]

did you use a diode to stop back EMF to the IC, adn seperate powersupplies for the IC circuit and relay/motor corcuit.

large current fluctuations can cause instablity and constant reseting

[b2600TurboDiesel]

use a separate power supply to power the motor.

[orbiter8]

What is the relay your using please kubikop?

John

[deltamech100]

Hey brother, I think what is going on is your circuit has a high load and when you add your external load to your relay your current to the relay is dropping off causeing the relay contacts to bounce. Get rid of the relay and put in transistors. The LED should be branched off the Timer output on its own transistor. This will allow you to trouble shoot. Ex. if light blinks normal and load is dead, load transistor is the problem. Loose the relay!!! 2 Transistors 1 load 1 indication!!!

[Nanovirus5995]

The sound of that relay working is REALLY Therapeutic. I really like it XD Good job

[macgiveup]

good try

[faackoof]

what kind of relay is that?

[grapeapee]

Looks like you need a diode on the coil side of your relay

[ivancaicedo237]

The coil you are using is on the same supply that the timer is using. Isolate the supplies. ONE FOR THE TIMER AND THE OTHER FOR THE LOAD.

[F1Fearce]

@ivancaicedo237 I would suggest the same thing.

And use a diode as well, it helps with inductive kick back from the coil/load.

[amazula]

how about putting your 555 pulse into a HV transistor then to a voltage multiplier then to your coil

[perfusus]

"Please Donate Now, so I Can Keep Making Quality Videos"

Rly? Your videos are not "quality"... they suck and you want money for making videos with your webcam... go screw yourself! I don't see any of the popular uTubers wanting money for nothing... what makes you so special?

[kubikop]

Well if you don't like them don't watch them. A donation is a gift you do not have to....

you are very hostile, maybe you could learn to be nicer?

Paul.

[perfusus]

@kubikop

Okay Paul why the F should I give you my money?... is it your birthday or something, are you doing something for the society. I mean why do you think you deserve my money more than the local charity organization? And besides that a gift is not something you ask for, it's something I decide to give you without being asked! Since you ask for the money it's not a gift!!!

[skierplaterandy]

@perfusus if you not going to donate, dont. nobody gives a rats ass. if you dont like his videos, go find something better to do.

and how is someone supposed to give a gift, if they dont know how?

[perfusus]

@skierplaterandy

Lol go play with dolls you silly kid... You didn't even understand what i was saying to the guy, didn't mommy and daddy teach you it's rude to speak when you can't say anything smart :D

[perfusus]

@kubikop

I am nice, actually i'm very nice BUT only to people who deserve it. It's not a "gift" if you are asking for it, get a real job and make some money, learn the value of the dollar and then we will see if you still have the nerve to ask people for money just like that.

[969SobiasTokeS696]

@kubikop i'd donate to you if i could

[ericdalgetty]

@perfusus your an idiot hes doing usefull work and hes teaching people about electronics and he doesnt mean the quality of the camera he means so he can get more parts and such!

[7MagicMark]

try puting a resistor in there to stop any currune going backwards into it, that might solve the problem

[faackoof]

resistors don't direct current, they just slow it down. Diodes direct current

[FelixTheHouseFreak]

Can you give me a schematic for this?

[kubikop]

Its just a basic 555 timer circuit powering a relay. I did not work very well either....

Paul..

[g0fvt]

Scary that another commenter probably works for the same company as I do... I know you are going the PIC route now but the 4017 is a seriously useful device for chasers and similar.

[0782544441]

Hello you need a diode or a 7555IC or a 555IC

[kubikop]

Hi ya I have gone down the PIC route, thanks for the response..

[rockman378]

@kubikop hey ya mine did the same thing aas yours did...

[IcechickenSr]

@0782544441 I know it's been a while since you posted, maby yourself or paul could help me under stand where you would place the diode and why would it stop the relay exibiting it's current behaviour shown in this video? What is currently happening to the relay when Paul hooks up a load to make it go hay wire? I appreciate anyones time that can help me understand this. Cheers, IC.

[familyfreaks1]

dont put a load on the relay that will fix it

[ubrbzkr]

lol. (pacient- "doctor i broke my arm in two places" doctor- "well then dont go to those places")

[sciman001]

the same thing happens to my circuit

[niceandeasybaby]

if u are used the same source for the circuit and load perhaps need a diode between the leads of the coil rele, as inverse curent eliminator a electrolic of higt capacity in the source to keep the voltaje.

[noospaseisde]

i think the same...

[bassmetropolis]

itrs like signal light in car

[digitalbroadcaster]

If you just want to drive the stepper motor, you could either use a stepper driver chip, or a 4017 IC using each stage to drive (via a VF66 transistor) each phase of the motor. This would only give you one direction though. I don't even know what you are building, but you could be introducing emf into the timer circuit. Have you fitted a back-emf protection diode to the relay by the way? If the motor is a standard non-stepper, then emf could still be the problem. Use separate power to motor.

[kubikop]

Hi digitalbroadcaster

Thanks for the info, I will move back to these circuits, but I used the bedini method on later videos instead. I will look into the CMOS 4017 because I have a couple, I think I need an opto coupler to do this and not not blow the CMOS. the VF66? do you have specs on it?

I though of using the Ts555 with a schmitt trigger to get duty cycle of 50%.

Any ideas?

Paul..

Paul..

[Ooberpoonage]

why use a timer when you can use the shaft of the motor you will build?It can handle GOBS more current than a chip.20-200 or so milliamps is all you will get with the best 555 on its best day.Instead of building a complex (for most tinkerers)circuit, make it mechanical as much as possible.A battery and 160 degrees of a conductive shaft are sufficient for your switching needs.A reed switch will work too ,but's no comparison to switching with a big chunk of spinning metal.Take it from an old fool

[Feaster7734]

can u tell me what parts i need to make this

[rroge5]

that transistor is not needed

[oceic]

zener diode between 555 and relay triger

[bjornwitteman]

i want it !!!:)

[mojave200]

yes coolgyewayne is right the coil is drawing down the voltage

[stripes5150]

you need to put a diode in line with your load...

[asecarguy10808]

@stripes5150 True. But maybe a lower ohm resistor to the base pole of the transistor will give you a lot more current flow through it. That might help.

[LP2LP2]

how can / or can i say with C++ sleep 5000 and it will sleep 5 sec ???

plase an answere

[anven11]

type :

sleep(5000);

[mysteryteacher9]

transistor? make the energy thaty lights the LED up to trigger the higher power needed for the motor...

[dodoshlodo]

u've hooked your relay up in self oscillating mode

[hydrolisk1792]

I just realized what you're problem is. On the "LOAD" side of the relay, you need to supply a different power source to the "LOAD" so the power that you have for the "FLASHER" circuit you have made doesn't get intrupted. Another words, the light in you're bedroom, insted of having a light switch there, you would replace it with the "LOAD" side of the relay because all a relay is, is an electronic switch. I deal with relays every day, and there is at least 5-10 in each piece of my equipment.

[iflymyhelishigh]

Can you please provide schematics? Thank you :)

[skierplaterandy]

look up 555 flasher curcuit. then on the output connect a relay from there to ground

[coolgyewayne]

use a different power source foe the 555 timer and another power source for the motor

[24kilo]

Use a diode across the relay coil. It'ss stop the chatter....No worries.

[Fuckyeahimover18]

u need some sort of amplification circuit. with transistors is my first thought. but i guess ur done thinkin about this project and are on bigger and better stuff

[MajorUtah]

that silver thing, upside down with the three legs is a power transistor, K? *XD Hoorah...

[danieldrane]

dude!! you gotta put a load on it.. one bat to charge.. one to power it..

[Membrane556]

You might want to drive a mosfet or even a 2n3055 with another transistor driving it's base maybe use a 2n2222 to increase the output of the 555.

[OpusFinis]

use a diode!

[bovlch]

Use relays!!!!!

[steven123654]

Non, relay no good for that. Use a transistor or a mofset ,relay to slow and it will arc with to much amps.

[killerman1985]

you muust use a transistor in output of your 555 if you want to command a motor ,the 555 did not accept more than 200ma

[sterling69]

dude!! you gotta put a load on it.. one bat to charge.. one to power it..

[kubikop]

Sorted it now, thanks....

[RamonSmit]

what is that voor a clik clack thing ?

[kubikop]

Its a Relay.

[danagol1985]

wow thtats unusual for batteries like that not to be enough! they usually have enough energy to melt a small spanner in half! good to hea the problem is sorted though!

[kubikop]

if you watch the later videos I get it running quick ....

This ones made me jump.

Pulse Motor (Fast Motor Explosive Results) 048

Paul

[danagol1985]

there are 2 things u need to do.

1. Place a diode paralell to the coil of the relay, in oposite to intended coil polrity (as to avoid feedback

2. The reason is flickers like that when a load is applied is because the load drops the voltage, so that there is not enough to keep the coil energised. However as soon as the contacts disconnect the voltage rises and so the cycle starts over again.

I reccomend using a big 12v battery for power, and not a low amp transformer as i guess you are using

[kubikop]

Thanks for the comment.

I was using two 6v 12Ah Batteries in series which I thought would be enough, but I have now moved onto a Bedini Circuit with a trigger coil and a power coil.

[jasonspinmaster]

could you post the circuit or send it to me, as i am trying to make the same circuit

[davidbball13]

dude u need a bigger breadboard

[kubikop]

I know it was all pretty cramped....;-)

[davidbball13]

yeah i saw a video of a really good one for ICs besauce the stripes that go side ways the the one on this board there were about 67 and they were going up and down

[ewigkase]

now I know what i am going to do with this relay switch that has been sitting in my room for ever.

[kubikop]

The Transistor circuit it better in my later videos.

Paul.

[aigfn]

place a diode in line witch coil

[jasonspinmaster]

place a diode in series

[kubikop]

Thanks, I got there in the end.

[Juthumheim]

you have to use a stronger relay, with the timer driving a transistor with a higher voltage to drive the relay, also you should add a big ass capacitor to the relay coil ends so the voltage can be more stable, you can try first only adding the capacitor with the relay driven only by the timer as you have it right now it may work if you don't want to add the mosfet

[Juthumheim]

what happens is when you conect the motor coil to the relay it takes alot of power of your vcc , and the timer runs out of it. Capacitors are the answer my friend, you have to make those sensitive parts's voltage stable first, since it's the heart of your proyect

[kubikop]

I will reinvestigate this circuit then. It has been bothering me that it did not work. I want to pulse the circuit from a reed switch to get the timing correct.

Thanks

[radiadiamond]

I think you need a reed switch instead of a timed switch. The reed switch will switch based on a magnetic field.

[kubikop]

@ radiadiamond

I got my reed switches of ebay today and have posted video 8. Its quite fast, wish I could measure it.

[Meskalitto]

Please find the Bedini SSG circuit on internet, that is all you need, it is self triggering and much more simpler. No switches, no timing, just a transistor, two diodes and some resistors.

[kubikop]

@ Meskalitto

I will try and find it now. Thanks

[kubikop]

I have been told the relay wont handle the current. A contactor is needed.