Not to play devil's advocate but I seem to recall a very popular brand of t-shirt sporting an image of Bush with the phrase "not my president" on it. Libs aren't much smarter than conservatives or republicans.
I want to throw up on these idiots they make me sick. How can people be this retarded? Obvious racist's and morons they need to be educated on the truth but I think they are too brainwashed, stubborn and ignorant to listen to the truth. Thanks to fox news and they're corporate funded lies.
@SILER661 totally agree. Just came upon this. I thought the random Tea Party idiots I saw on Youtube were just that random. Well, this proves that the whole lot of them are mind controlled ignoramouses. God help our country. We need laws against fake news like FOX. Who is doing something about this. Would like to join in!
Call yourself a Democrat and tell them something and they will start a riot, no matter what you say; Call yourself a Republican and say the same thing, they'll believe it. If I pretended to be a Republican, went down to the south and yelled "LETS ALL GO GET PIZZA INSTEAD OF WASTING OUR TIME ON ARGUING ABOUT WHETHER OBAMA IS OR IS NOT AMERICAN!", they would all blindly follow because in their eyes I would not be an enemy. If I said I am a Democrat, they would not believe a word that I would say.
I am fairly certain I am an idiot and I know Obama was born in kenya because an article (I may have read) told me so even though I am an idiot and failed Government class in High School.
Love how the "print some money " guy is about to say that he wants to see Obama's criminal records but changes college records. Not being racist or anything right?
one thing that i think is funny, is that 2 birth certificates from two different hospitals in hawaii, claim that obama was born there... and officially no "final" certificate has been produced unless you include the two that have differing information. just saying...
Forcing tyranny on us? Hah! You mean like the republican radicals who would ban books, enforce religion, and end public aducation? You're a joke disguised in political quackery!
Orly Taitz proved in court that Barack Obama was born in Kenya, & they threw it out. She also proved that Barack Obama's SSN # was fraudulent & they threw that out as well.
@willia3r But the Panama Canal Zone at the time was an American territory & both of his parents were American. He has a real SSN # & he served in the U.S. military.
But the fact of the matter is the Panama Canal Zone Was not a part of America in the traditional sense and an argument can be made that McCain was not born in America.
Far-right Tea-Pary conservatives can say all the nonsense that they want. They don't accept the idea of Obama being born in America, so I don't accept the idea of McCain being born here either.
@willia3r Well that's great I guess you have the right to support a president that is forcing tyranny on us & that they absolutely proved that his SSN # is fraudulent & was thrown out of court just because the judge said it wasn't Orly Taitz day. And that he continues to assert himself above the Constitution, well you have fun with that. Just close you eyes & plug you ears. Sleeeeeep little sheeple.....
these people are ignorant and they say blacks are ignorant? lol pot kettle etc..this country is rife with retards this video is full blown proof of that
So this video maker is mad that the people refuse to say for certain that he was born in the US? He may or may not be from the US, but either way he sucks ass as a president.
@MandragGanon He provided his Birth Certificate to prove he was born in the United States ... they are being hypocritical. He was born in Hawaii when it was a state ... McCain was not born within the United States itself and was born on a Military Base in Panama. That is questionable to whether or not he would count as well **note, I personally believe it does**. The fact also remains, Obama's mother was American that makes him American. Birthers are stupid, blame and simple.
@MandragGanon I am upset that Obama a man that preached we will have change has merely given us more of the same. Seriously, I am sick of Democrat and Republican alike. We need a government that listens to what its people want ... I know most people want cheaper and easier to obtain health care, but they do not wish to have a choice force upon them.
@darththeo True. He's also dragged us into even more wars and expanded the power of the executive branch. Then there is the massive increase in the deficit. If you want cheaper healthcare vote for the man with healthcare experience in the race. Thats Ron Paul who is an OBGYN and has delivered more than 4000 babies.
@MandragGanon Lybia =/= Wars ... One is not plural. And as for power of the executive branch, most president have done that. Ron Paul is a liar and doesn't know shit about the Constitution despite saying he believes in it.
Gratifying to see Obama described as an unlikely president? Is it not evident to Obama backers they & other Dem's elected a inexerienced nonentity obscure professor with no publications? A man without military, economic, financial, business, foreign policy, or executive experience, gifted with a talent for self-promotion & vapid slogans like change. This pathetic creature is expected to lead, inspire,& direct us out of Recession, unite the nation, strengthen it internationallly?
Evidence has arisen that Barrack Obama was actually born in Belgium in the port of Ostend. I have a copy of his Belgian birth certificate and am will ing to mail copies of it to any of you enlightened sane tea party activists.
Why don't people think about things before they decide whether or not to believe them? These people are a bit stupid. I'm English and there are a lot of idiots here who believe all Americans are like this which of course just isn't true.
I can't wait til another republican president gets in office, unfortunately it is gonna happen eventually, not in 2012, but eventually and then i expect these same people to ask for that republicans birth certificate as well, just to be sure. But we all know they won't cause republicans are the party of hypocrisy.
@garrethdavis, If you read the British Nationality Act of 1948 and the British Treaty of 1952 (signed by Pres Truman in 1951), then it proves Obama was born a dual-citizen, and he is constitutionally ineligible.
His FighttheSmears site admits he was born with dual nationality, then tries to distract readers by adding "at age 22 he could have chose Kenya citizenship." Well, if he was born with an option, then he is not NBC. Did the '63 Kenya Independence make you Kenyan?
What a shame. You have billionaires coming out and saying they need to be taxed more and all these greasy haired folks with bad teeth fighting for other people's money. How does it feel being the Koch brother's bitch?
Is this the big gotcha..... Many in the teaparty ranks question the legitimacy under the constitution of BHO to be president based on a lack of verifiable proof. Ooh you so smart. Perhaps you should see the video of leftists trying to come to terms with Obama is a Keynesian. youtube.com/watch?v=gBrHkxqNT7s
Sorry "Tim" but you're just as retarded and as much of a "hack"as the Tea party folks are if you actually thought Barack Obama was going to fix anything,Anyone in this day and age who thinks that politicians are going to solve anything needs to grow up.As far as the birth certificate,who cares??
but that he "aspired to develop a nuclear capability — in an incremental fashion, irrespective of international pressure and the resulting economic risks."
So I guess you were once again fooled by Fox "News" or some right wing propaganda website.
It's possible that Thompson was referring to the Iraq Survey Group, a CIA panel that was formed to investigate whether there were weapons of mass destruction or the intent to produce WMDs in Iraq. The report found that Saddam did not produce or possess any weapons of mass destruction for more than a decade before the U.S.-led invasion...
The Iraq Study Group was a bipartisan panel created by Congress and was headed by former Secretary of State James A. Baker III and Lee Hamilton, who once chaired the House Foreign Affairs Committee.
In Dec 2006, the group released its report, The Way Forward: A New Approach, which recommended a new U.S. strategy. The 142-page report focused on the future of Iraq and did not address whether Saddam wanted to restart a nuclear program. So we find Thompson's claim to be False.
During a Republican in 2007, Fred Thompson was asked to explain his previous comments about whether Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. He replied that Saddam had used them against the Kurds and had nuclear reactors in the early 1980s. Thompson added, "The Iraq Study Group reported that (Saddam) had designs on reviving his nuclear program, which he had started once upon a time."
1) NO WMDs WHEN WE INVADED - there were NONE found so not a threat to the U.S.
2) Regarding the fake SS # - the fact is that SS #s are recycled. More important, Obama is a U.S. citizen as proven by his B.C. and long form B.C. Even Trump stopped his lies.
3) Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty? No court has found Obama guilty. Someone filing a case against Obama does not make Obama guilty. Taitz has a record of filing frivolous lawsuits.
@jmwwd So you actually think Saddam had WMDs - then why couldn't the entire U.S. military find them?
Why would Obama need a fake SS number? After all, he is a U.S. citizen. Or are you one of the remaining nut jobs who actually think the long form B.C. is a fake? LOL
What federal court agreed that Obama broke the law. Please provide the name of the case.
You obviously will never listen to facts so arguing with you is a waste of my time.
@redcat608 What additional socialism is Obama advocating?
Trying to protect people from unscrupulous lenders and credit card companies? Returning tax rates for the top 2% to that during the Clinton era (22 million jobs created)?
Reagan raised taxes several times after his first year. HW Bush (the smart one) also did.
Bartlett (Reagan advisor) and even hard-core free market Greenspan says the Bush tax cuts must expire.
But don't let facts get in the way of your "socialist" propaganda. LOL
@AceSkepTik So you are criticizing people based on their appearance and intelligence? Why don't you just throw weight, sexual orientation, and skin color in their you fuckin bigot.
@AceSkepTik You should not talk about ObaMao supporters that way, they can't help that they are ugly, stupid & angry. ObaMao is a socialist piece of shit & I don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth. You morons give him a pass on everything. Impeach the sack of lying shit NOW! Worst ever, worst than Carter!
@Flipped999 Here is what the headlines read today : More Americans were living in poverty in 2010 than at any time since at least the 1950s, with the overall poverty rate climbing to 15.1 -- a 6 percent jump in just one year -- according to Census figures released Tuesday. Zerobama owns this & much more, no question, this man is so far in over his head it is scary. I am missing President Bush, a man with so much class. Impeach this Socialist NOW! ENOUGH SAID!
This video, contrary to the maker, actually shows the smartness of the Tea Party hey have been proven correct since now after over two years the on the White house website, still in defiance of his real record. Also to push your Democrat arty is wrong because both main parties have got us into the mess we are in bt especially the Democract majority in the last 6 years with their record spending
This video, contrary to the maker, actually shows the smartness of the Tea Party people. They have been proven correct since now after over two years the President has made things worse by posting a photoshopped birth certificate on the White house website, still in defiance of his real record. Also to push your Democrat party is wrong because both main parties have got us into the mess we are in but especially the Democract majority in the last 6 years with their record spending.
Do you think America can come back with the current monetary system thru derivatives . QE-1 QE-2 QE-3 with corporations leaving and the economy not getting any better.If so your simply a dreamer National debt 14 trillion? another 70 tillion in obligations? lol Ron Paul 2012 !!
Do any of these people really believe that Hillary would have let Barrack up-end her run for President if he was not born in Hawaii? Hillary as in Clinton. Two newspaper announcements in 1961. Linda Lingle (look her up) agrees he was born here in Honolulu. If you want to be taken seriously stop being afraid and make sense.
I believe Obama was born in Kenya, because he said so himself. The "alleged birth certificate" had been examined by photo experts and its a FAKE. It show obvious evidence it was photoshopped. Besides Obama himself, before the controversy, said his homeland is Kenya!!
For the record all the presidents since kennedy have done nothing but pull this country down. Reguardless of their party. It scares the shit out of the liberal that so many people are waking up.
I got a B in one class, and began to doubt my intelligence. I put on this video, and I'm like I'm not that bad. My intelligence is actually above average, if looking at them is what you consider average. I 'm praying to God that its not. :/
Libtards are those who have no upstanding morals, because they- Oh im sorry i meant liberals. because they only are wanting to hurt those who truly love America and its founding efforts. The tea-party is about low taxes and small government. libtards want to make fun of everything they (upstanding America True Americans) law abiding Americans truly stand for.
@235RB So you'd delegitimize the entire Tea Party movement and all the very serious concerns they've been raising in regards to the Federal Reserve, banker bailout, devaluing the currency, endless warfare, foreign occupation, erosion of states/individuals rights via Patriot Act, etc. all because they dare question why Barack Obama spent over $2 million to keep his birth certificate hidden from public view? Man, give your head a shake. Why the cover-up for so long if he had nothing to hide?
@dentrobate54 Are you seriously using the false $2MM figure for Obama's birth certificate legal costs? LOL
That $2MM was for campaign-related legal bills and there was no breakdown regarding BC costs, if any.
Where were the teabaggers when Bush did the Patriot Act, bank bailout etc.? You guys are such tools, being manipulated by big business and the Koch brothers. Baggers actually still believe that tax cuts improve the economy and reduce the deficit - even Greenspan said they don't. LOL
The Tea Party is filled with braindead dolts who have no grasp on reality. The fact these assholes refuse to face reality when it comes to Obama is all the proof you need. He's our legal president.
@Mackberserk Given that the vast majority of Americans like Medicare, Medicaid, social security, the EPA, national highways, public education etc., I guess government control of many activities are what Americans really want, not just "liberals".
So we should get rid of the EPA? I guess you want to check your own water every day. How about the FCC? I guess you wouldn't mind paying a $250/month for your cell bill. The CDC - ever heard of bird flu? How about the FAA? I assume you never fly.
@TheSnoopy1750 It's human nature to want a free lunch and for somebody to take care of you. Europe has entirely given in to that way of life and they're doing great (I hear Greece and Spain are wonderful this time of year)... The vast majority of Americans DO NOT "like" the EPA OR the public education system, in general, and they see the need for major changes in Medicare, Medicaid, social security. National highways are actually the only intended, original responsibility of the federal gov.
@TheSnoopy1750 The FCC and EPA are a bad joke that we all pay for. The basic functions of the EPA can be handled by states without green freaks imposing the "extras". The FCC is like a comms labor union nightmare. The CDC and FAA are necessary, but ultimately bloated bureaucracies that have drastically overreached in their purpose. Unfortunately, most wonderful agencies and programs these days have the adverse effect of strangling the life out of businesses through regulation.
@Mackberserk How about the post office? Ever see how much UPS, Fedex or other private companies charge for 3-5 day mail?
Let's get rid of the FDIC - I assume you don't keep money in the bank. How about the SEC? Who needs regulations that prevent companies from fraudulent financial reporting like Worldcom and Enron. How about no financial regulation? That way we can have banks speculate recklessly again as they did under Bush's watch.
@TheSnoopy1750 The post office is a great example of a near monopoly on mailing services. They can "afford" to undercut all competition simply because going out of business isn't an option. You're right! How about MORE regulation? People wonder why so many businesses are going overseas. It's not that difficult to figure out. Oppressive regulation + the highest corporate taxes in the world = mass exodus of industry.
Companies like Hewlett Packard ship jobs overseas as they can find well-educated tech workers at 1/5 the price. Lowering U.S. tax rates to 25% from 35% can't even come close to offsetting that massive salary difference.
Maybe you should take advantage of the public school system - you obviously could use it.
@Mackberserk So how did the lower Bush tax rates and less regulation turn out?
Oh yeah, we got a financial meltdown and almost no private job creation over 8 years.
Maybe you should look at facts instead of parroting tea party talking points.
Reagan raised taxes after his first year and HW Bush raised taxes as they knew it was necessary. In addition, Greenspan and Reagan econ advisors Bartlett and Stockman say the Bush taxes must expire.
Deregulation helps the Koch Brothers, not the U.S.
@TheSnoopy1750 The Bush tax cuts resulted in year after year increases in federal revenue to the treasury from 2004 to 2007. Additionally, 5 million jobs were created between 2003-06. The gdp, gross private domestic investment, and fixed investment rates all increased immediately following. Accordingly, allowing the cuts to expire would reduce work incentives and raise taxes on millions of families and small businesses, thereby further harming the economy and minimizing any new revenues.
@TheSnoopy1750 The financial meltdown was a result of several different factors, despite Bush’s economic policies, and many not related to government at all. It’s easy to assume that a preceding event is the cause of a succeeding event simply because they occurred in that order. It’s called a false cause fallacy.
@TheSnoopy1750 President Reagan was forced to raise payroll taxes due to a crisis in social security and was very reluctant to do so. He had to fight and negotiate with a Democrat-controlled congress every step of the way. Just because people advocate cutting taxes does not mean they do not also see the need to raise taxes given the appropriate circumstances. Liberals on the other hand NEVER want to cut taxes… You only want to satisfy your addiction to spend.
@TheSnoopy1750 Conservatives believe capital is most productive in the hands of the people who earned it. Liberals on the other hand believe that government is a far better arbiter of how other people’s money should be allocated. This is the philosophical difference between you and I. That and you actually think more taxes on everyone will somehow produce something positive in the private sector.
@TheSnoopy1750 Oppressive regulation does not create jobs or stimulate the economy. Some regulation is certainly necessary to level the playing field at times (i.e. to prevent monopolies). Bottom line: The private sector creates jobs, NOT the government. The government’s job is to get the hell out of the way. Useful idiots like you think putting up walls is somehow the solution. Brilliance.
@Mackberserk You tea party morons think we should just deregulate everything and then all would be OK.
The Clinton years were damn good economically and we had more regulation and higher taxes. Care to explain?
We are in trouble now given Bush and his policies destroyed the country. And you want to go back to his policies of less financial/energy regulation and tax cuts. Greenspan recently said the Bush tax cuts are bad for the economy.
@TheSnoopy1750 The effectiveness of the Bush tax cuts was apparent when its enactment produced a sudden and dramatic turnaround in business investment, the stock market, and job numbers in 2003 alone. In contrast, there’s no similar correlation between President Clinton’s economic policies of raising taxes and the strong economy at the time he was in office.
@235RB Your assumption is based on the flawed conclusion that the U.S. has an issue with generating sufficient revenue when that is simply not true. Just the opposite, our government has a very tangible SPENDING issue which is inseparably tied to handouts. Refer to what I listed above regarding the specific benefits of the Bush tax cuts and Google them. You will find, to your surprise, that YOU are the dumbass.
@Mackberserk Oh I know, Which goes right back to the Bush era, Man he sure knew how to spend. Two Unfunded wars, that cost 150 billion a year. Handouts, sure, Good ole cheny worked up some fat cost plus (doubt you know what they are) spending contracts with Black water and Haliburten, A company he was the former CEO of. "Specific benefits of theBush tax cuts" Thats an Oxymoron. Tax cuts for the rich. So they trickle their money down haha. please......
@235RB You are right - Bush's tax cuts, Bush's wars and the results of the Bush mega-recession comprise the large majority of the current and projected deficits.
The figures are widely available, but morons like @Mackberserk don't like to use facts or data in coming to conclusions.
Arguing with people like Mack is like trying to teach quantum physics to a cat. It is futile as they both lack the requisite intelligence and logical skills.
@TheSnoopy1750 Thanks for reiterating the FACTS, something republicans and tea baggers ignore. haha, theres no getting through to these people. Teabaggers conveinetly emerged when a Black guy came into office, what a coincidence, where were they when shit like the patriot act was passed, to defend civil liberties?
Logic and intelligence are always out of the question when talking to a teabagger. I get more intelligent responses from a pile of shit.
@TheSnoopy1750 Haha I know, theres no getting through to them either. Haha Fox news, I bet they dont know that Fox is the most consistent when it comes to misonforming the viewers. I can't help but laugh at the right, I rarely take them seriously.
@235RB These guys actually think Fox is the only one telling them the truth and that EVERY other network (NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, PBS, Bloomberg, BBC) is part of a grand conspiracy with the evil liberal "Ivy League Intellectuals" and scientists.
Why do they think that? Because Fox tells them that nobody in the "mainstream media" can be trusted to speak the truth! LOL
If they're too stupid to understand that Fox is 100% republican/teaparty propaganda, they should abstain from having offspring.
@TheSnoopy1750 ahaha I know. Fox news is the biggest joke on television. The viewers of fox are either missing their front teeth or are over 65, and are still wanting to butt fuck Reagan. I cant see republican politics in the future, Does't seem like there is going to be a place for it. The only way is forward, Hence Why I am a progressive, the Republicans want to live in the dark ages. I describe conservative ideals like this: doing the same thing over and over and expecting differet results.
@235RB The republicans used to be a rational party.
Reagan would never be accepted in the republican party today - he was a social liberal, was the head of the actor's union, raised taxes and wanted a dramatic decrease in nuclear weapons. Furthermore, he cut and ran in Lebanon once things got tough there.
The republicans use ideology not facts to make decisions. I guess that makes sense as facts have a well-known liberal bias.
@235RB You are right about the republican party having no future. The demographics are turning against them.
In the next few decades, minorities will be the majority, young people are mostly progressive and racists will die off. The republican's solution is not to change their policies, but instead focus on voter suppression. They are making it difficult for blacks and college students to register.
The republican party uses fear, misinformation and religion to keep the gullible vote.
@TheSnoopy1750 Maybe you should check your facts instead of smearing people who simply want the government to stop reckless and irresponsible spending. But then I suppose that is your number one tactic, followed by but not limited to: misinformation, ad hominem, outright lying, class warfare, the race card, and shifting blame. Straight from the rules for radicals playbook. Yea, you libs sure know how to make up for lack of intelligence.
@TheSnoopy1750 The economic growth and surplus under Clinton were the result of the technology boom, which Reagan’s tax rate cuts a decade earlier had stimulated. The only major pieces of legislation which stimulated the economy during his administration were welfare reform and the lowering of capital gains tax, BOTH sponsored by a GOP controlled congress. Yes, the economy flourished… IN SPITE OF imposed regulation and taxation. That caught up to the eco in 2001, just before Bush righted it
@Mackberserk So the tech/internet boom was due to Reagan's tax cuts? LOL
Also, you are wrong about the tax cuts - Reagan actually raised taxes after his first year because he knew it had to be done or the deficit would balloon. Furthermore, HW Bush raised taxes despite promising not to. So Clinton actually had pretty high taxes. Yet job creation was 22 million and we saw good GDP growth.
So I guess you have to admit that higher taxes does not preclude an economic boom. Facts prove this.
@Mackberserk Furthermore, David Stockman and Bruce Bartlett (Reagan advisors) say the Bush tax cuts must be allowed to expire.
Greenspan, an Ayn Rand disciple, also agrees that we must get rid of the tax cuts. Not to mention almost every other top independent economist. Look at the breakdown of our deficit - Bush tax cuts and wars are a very big part of it.
I guess you are one of the suckers buying into the lie that tax cuts will grow the economy. How does it feel to be that ignorant?
@TheSnoopy1750 Lie after distortion after lie. You Libs are incredible revisionists of historical events without equal. This notion that you can tax, spend, and regulate your way to solvency and prosperity is not at all supported by the reality of history. Alas, my patience for correcting your specious reasoning and misconstrued recollection of events is exhausted. Clearly, you've been educated beyond your ability to think for yourself. What a waste of oxygen, space, and now, my time.
@Mackberserk "Lie after distortion after lie. You Libs are incredible revisionists of historical events without equal. "
What exactly did I lie about? Reagan and H.W. Bush (the smart Bush) raised taxes. Greenspan and Stockman recently stated that the Bush tax cuts must expire - do you know more about tax policy than them? Clinton had a booming economy with higher tax rates than now.
You teabagger morons need to learn that just because you don't like a fact does not make it a lie.
I would have to question the IQ of the Tea Party,these people are not the brightest people in the world of course.
Useyno 1 day ago
This is what happens when you cut from education.
Jarmo187 4 days ago
FUCK BUSH, THE TEA PARTY, AND GLENN BECK!
leftwingersunited 1 week ago
I don't remember George Bush producing a birth certificate.
So... He was Croatian or something? :S
No, wait! *Peruvian*! (That just sounds cooler!)
George Walker Bush is Peruvian - Because he never proved otherwise. Yes... That sounds remotely plausible - And therefore factual.
trentmuch1 1 week ago
Calling these people "Stupid" would be a horrible insult to stupid people everywhere.
somersetdc 1 month ago
I actually stopped associating with people that thought Obama wasn't US born. I don't hang out with dumb asses.
Trimere 1 month ago
Not to play devil's advocate but I seem to recall a very popular brand of t-shirt sporting an image of Bush with the phrase "not my president" on it. Libs aren't much smarter than conservatives or republicans.
SkunkyAngry 1 month ago
@SkunkyAngry thats because florida and ohio elections were bullshit......
migo53333 1 week ago
I want to throw up on these idiots they make me sick. How can people be this retarded? Obvious racist's and morons they need to be educated on the truth but I think they are too brainwashed, stubborn and ignorant to listen to the truth. Thanks to fox news and they're corporate funded lies.
SILER661 1 month ago
@SILER661 totally agree. Just came upon this. I thought the random Tea Party idiots I saw on Youtube were just that random. Well, this proves that the whole lot of them are mind controlled ignoramouses. God help our country. We need laws against fake news like FOX. Who is doing something about this. Would like to join in!
sdhweber 1 month ago
Call yourself a Democrat and tell them something and they will start a riot, no matter what you say; Call yourself a Republican and say the same thing, they'll believe it. If I pretended to be a Republican, went down to the south and yelled "LETS ALL GO GET PIZZA INSTEAD OF WASTING OUR TIME ON ARGUING ABOUT WHETHER OBAMA IS OR IS NOT AMERICAN!", they would all blindly follow because in their eyes I would not be an enemy. If I said I am a Democrat, they would not believe a word that I would say.
TehNickIsNoob 1 month ago
Remind me never to travel to Cleveland. Too much ignorance.
csmck1 2 months ago
So 2 soldiers say Obama is not an American and that makes them credible? Wow!
Sevenfold120 2 months ago
I am fairly certain I am an idiot and I know Obama was born in kenya because an article (I may have read) told me so even though I am an idiot and failed Government class in High School.
Sevenfold120 2 months ago
It's weird that the majority of the birthers are white. Oh wait, it's not.
JasonTheX 2 months ago
best comment at 3:53
925732 2 months ago
The problem here is that Americans have spent so long being told that they're the best people in the universe.
otherjr 2 months ago
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Tea Baggers can suck my "All American-Muslim" 7 inch cock! White Supremacy is anti-American.God bless America. U-S-A ! U-S-A ! U-S-A!
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Atlantaboy612 2 months ago
Love how the "print some money " guy is about to say that he wants to see Obama's criminal records but changes college records. Not being racist or anything right?
Dalle333 3 months ago
one thing that i think is funny, is that 2 birth certificates from two different hospitals in hawaii, claim that obama was born there... and officially no "final" certificate has been produced unless you include the two that have differing information. just saying...
littlem332 3 months ago
1:50 "is under lock and key in the state of Hawaii". Isnt Hawaii a part of the US??? LOL
Typho0n86 3 months ago
I believe all these shaved apes were born with brains starved for oxygen.
(My apologies to any shaved apes reading this.)
ROOKTABULA 4 months ago
Forcing tyranny on us? Hah! You mean like the republican radicals who would ban books, enforce religion, and end public aducation? You're a joke disguised in political quackery!
bruceduece1 4 months ago
Orly Taitz proved in court that Barack Obama was born in Kenya, & they threw it out. She also proved that Barack Obama's SSN # was fraudulent & they threw that out as well.
tyrannynotever 4 months ago
They sure are partying like it's 1789. I'm bored to death here.
Zellig 4 months ago
McCain and Obama are the same type of corrupt politicians. Both received copious amounts of money from Wall Street.
tbscrazy12 4 months ago
death to muslims and to tea party retardlicans
crorex1 4 months ago
@ 0:32 seconds I lose faith in democracy. Albert Einstien and her would have an equal say.
flameon3k 4 months ago
McCain wasn't even born in America. He was born in the Panama Canal Zone. And yet he is consider a "True American". Yeeesh....
The U.S.A. is like the "Somalia" of advanced industrial western nations...
willia3r 4 months ago
@willia3r But the Panama Canal Zone at the time was an American territory & both of his parents were American. He has a real SSN # & he served in the U.S. military.
tyrannynotever 4 months ago
@tyrannynotever
But the fact of the matter is the Panama Canal Zone Was not a part of America in the traditional sense and an argument can be made that McCain was not born in America.
Far-right Tea-Pary conservatives can say all the nonsense that they want. They don't accept the idea of Obama being born in America, so I don't accept the idea of McCain being born here either.
Turnabout is fair play.
willia3r 4 months ago
@willia3r Well that's great I guess you have the right to support a president that is forcing tyranny on us & that they absolutely proved that his SSN # is fraudulent & was thrown out of court just because the judge said it wasn't Orly Taitz day. And that he continues to assert himself above the Constitution, well you have fun with that. Just close you eyes & plug you ears. Sleeeeeep little sheeple.....
tyrannynotever 4 months ago
@tyrannynotever
Okay, I will continue to be a "sheep"...and you can continue to pull dittohead/far-right/Limbaugh/Koch Brothers propaganda out of your ass...
Later,
willia3r 4 months ago
Geez...I hate sharing a country with these Neanderthals. If being stupid was a capitol crime, all these S.O.B.s would get lethal injections.
somersetdc 4 months ago
Even if that stupid cow with the glasses touched his birth certificate she would believe Obama wasn't born in the US.
grizzle100 4 months ago
I have a different point of view. I dont give a crap if you are born in USA or Kenya or even North Korea.
That doesnt matter. Neither does scin color, gender, race, or any of the other superficial things.
gulbirk 5 months ago 2
these people are ignorant and they say blacks are ignorant? lol pot kettle etc..this country is rife with retards this video is full blown proof of that
ishredu 5 months ago
rednecks, kkk, teabaggers, minutemen... all the same...
TheYouwontgetit 5 months ago
So this video maker is mad that the people refuse to say for certain that he was born in the US? He may or may not be from the US, but either way he sucks ass as a president.
MandragGanon 5 months ago
@MandragGanon He provided his Birth Certificate to prove he was born in the United States ... they are being hypocritical. He was born in Hawaii when it was a state ... McCain was not born within the United States itself and was born on a Military Base in Panama. That is questionable to whether or not he would count as well **note, I personally believe it does**. The fact also remains, Obama's mother was American that makes him American. Birthers are stupid, blame and simple.
darththeo 4 months ago
@darththeo Thats fine, but I'm glad to see we are in agreement that he sucks ass as a president? :)
MandragGanon 4 months ago
@MandragGanon I am upset that Obama a man that preached we will have change has merely given us more of the same. Seriously, I am sick of Democrat and Republican alike. We need a government that listens to what its people want ... I know most people want cheaper and easier to obtain health care, but they do not wish to have a choice force upon them.
darththeo 4 months ago
@darththeo True. He's also dragged us into even more wars and expanded the power of the executive branch. Then there is the massive increase in the deficit. If you want cheaper healthcare vote for the man with healthcare experience in the race. Thats Ron Paul who is an OBGYN and has delivered more than 4000 babies.
MandragGanon 4 months ago
@MandragGanon Lybia =/= Wars ... One is not plural. And as for power of the executive branch, most president have done that. Ron Paul is a liar and doesn't know shit about the Constitution despite saying he believes in it.
darththeo 4 months ago
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Gratifying to see Obama described as an unlikely president? Is it not evident to Obama backers they & other Dem's elected a inexerienced nonentity obscure professor with no publications? A man without military, economic, financial, business, foreign policy, or executive experience, gifted with a talent for self-promotion & vapid slogans like change. This pathetic creature is expected to lead, inspire,& direct us out of Recession, unite the nation, strengthen it internationallly?
onstageagain 5 months ago
I love America.
therealestmc85 5 months ago
I truly believe these people have no clue how moronic they sound.
THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!
Firehorse40 5 months ago
Proof That Obama Born Outside USA
Evidence has arisen that Barrack Obama was actually born in Belgium in the port of Ostend. I have a copy of his Belgian birth certificate and am will ing to mail copies of it to any of you enlightened sane tea party activists.
goatface1000 5 months ago
Biggest lie any politician has ever told: Americans are smart. It's just not true.
MrMattgreider 5 months ago
Why don't people think about things before they decide whether or not to believe them? These people are a bit stupid. I'm English and there are a lot of idiots here who believe all Americans are like this which of course just isn't true.
Ndugu82 6 months ago
You can't make a person who's willfully blind see anything that they don't want to see.
MrScorpio 6 months ago
I can't wait til another republican president gets in office, unfortunately it is gonna happen eventually, not in 2012, but eventually and then i expect these same people to ask for that republicans birth certificate as well, just to be sure. But we all know they won't cause republicans are the party of hypocrisy.
melton696969 6 months ago
LOL Hawaii is a state. Really! It is! haha
hmbascom 6 months ago
What a bunch of disgraceful idiots.
bpowers64 6 months ago
"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." --- George Bush
The teabaggers are the most gullible, ignorant people in the U.S.
TheSnoopy1750 6 months ago 14
There is a hotel called renaissance in Cleveland of all places?
Only in America
dudesonman4200 6 months ago
I bet you are waiting to feed on obamas colostomy bag feeding tube'.
firstwave2 6 months ago
Research the issues before you open your mouth and show the world how much of an ass you are.
How dumb can some people be, all because of partisan political allegiances.
caribbeanbbc 6 months ago
tea party jewish scum.
mow1717 6 months ago
See scr*bi/qMqomp
borderraven 6 months ago
Well, uh, his pop wasn't anyway. He even released that. That means he's not natural born? It's not that complicated people.
garrethdavis 6 months ago
@garrethdavis, If you read the British Nationality Act of 1948 and the British Treaty of 1952 (signed by Pres Truman in 1951), then it proves Obama was born a dual-citizen, and he is constitutionally ineligible.
His FighttheSmears site admits he was born with dual nationality, then tries to distract readers by adding "at age 22 he could have chose Kenya citizenship." Well, if he was born with an option, then he is not NBC. Did the '63 Kenya Independence make you Kenyan?
borderraven 6 months ago
@borderraven Great info. Right on. why the hell hasn't he been fucking impeached already?
garrethdavis 6 months ago
@garrethdavis, Tell the State governors.
borderraven 6 months ago
@borderraven I'm not even American!
garrethdavis 6 months ago
Racists!
stevegvoss 6 months ago
What a shame. You have billionaires coming out and saying they need to be taxed more and all these greasy haired folks with bad teeth fighting for other people's money. How does it feel being the Koch brother's bitch?
22banway 6 months ago
They all had somehthing in common...they were dillusional as fuck
MikeFromSF 6 months ago
Im pretty sure they didn't know John McCain was born in Panama............. but, of course the teabaggers wouldn't question him!
Ignorance is bliss!
drea24c 6 months ago
The Tea Party has come out with their official theme song:
/watch?v=BvJdr_HHwYM
alphacause 6 months ago
Are these comments really a surprise since Michele Bachmann and Sara Palin are brightest members among the Tea Party?
TheLastZ0mbie 6 months ago 7
Sad, sad, sad, sad. Must be FOX News watchers. It's been shown they are the most misinformed Americans.
demdebsf 6 months ago
Is this the big gotcha..... Many in the teaparty ranks question the legitimacy under the constitution of BHO to be president based on a lack of verifiable proof. Ooh you so smart. Perhaps you should see the video of leftists trying to come to terms with Obama is a Keynesian. youtube.com/watch?v=gBrHkxqNT7s
antoinepuliviski 6 months ago
Just proof of how truly stupid these teabaggers are.
Roph58 7 months ago
@jmwwd Do you have anything intelligent and honest to post or are you just here to recycle a bunch of cheap dishonest right wing accusations?
DawnOfTheDead991 7 months ago
@jmwwd The rest of the world supported Bush in Iraq? What planet were you living on?
DawnOfTheDead991 7 months ago
Poster woman for ignorance and racism
pushycatpops 7 months ago
At the end do these ppl even know what they are cheering about?
WeThePeople5251787 7 months ago 7
4:18 best part....its the, i dont have an anwer to your question-im just here because i dont like blacks face -_-
kbnastyman 7 months ago
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kbnastyman 7 months ago
Why didnt Bush have to produce his birth certifacate(i know i spelled that wrong) when he got into office?
mattbrewer2008 7 months ago
Lmao oh my god. People watching this video, please don't think everybody who lives in Ohio is this idiotic and ignorant.
ChiTHeRioT2 7 months ago
Sorry "Tim" but you're just as retarded and as much of a "hack"as the Tea party folks are if you actually thought Barack Obama was going to fix anything,Anyone in this day and age who thinks that politicians are going to solve anything needs to grow up.As far as the birth certificate,who cares??
mrbrianmccarthy 7 months ago
tea party retards
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kopellhinex 4 months ago
thanks for the support!
chuckprojquality1 7 months ago
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@jmwwd Politifact has also said the claim that Obama is not a U.S. citizen is entirely false. You can read all the details on their site.
How does it feel to be a gullible sheep who believes all of the right wing lies?
Simply saying something does not make it true.
TheSnoopy1750 7 months ago
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but that he "aspired to develop a nuclear capability — in an incremental fashion, irrespective of international pressure and the resulting economic risks."
So I guess you were once again fooled by Fox "News" or some right wing propaganda website.
I use facts, while you are simply delusional.
TheSnoopy1750 7 months ago 4
@jmwwd (continued)
It's possible that Thompson was referring to the Iraq Survey Group, a CIA panel that was formed to investigate whether there were weapons of mass destruction or the intent to produce WMDs in Iraq. The report found that Saddam did not produce or possess any weapons of mass destruction for more than a decade before the U.S.-led invasion...
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TheSnoopy1750 7 months ago 3
@jmwwd (continued)
The Iraq Study Group was a bipartisan panel created by Congress and was headed by former Secretary of State James A. Baker III and Lee Hamilton, who once chaired the House Foreign Affairs Committee.
In Dec 2006, the group released its report, The Way Forward: A New Approach, which recommended a new U.S. strategy. The 142-page report focused on the future of Iraq and did not address whether Saddam wanted to restart a nuclear program. So we find Thompson's claim to be False.
TheSnoopy1750 7 months ago 3
@jmwwd From the bipartisan Politifact:
During a Republican in 2007, Fred Thompson was asked to explain his previous comments about whether Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. He replied that Saddam had used them against the Kurds and had nuclear reactors in the early 1980s. Thompson added, "The Iraq Study Group reported that (Saddam) had designs on reviving his nuclear program, which he had started once upon a time."
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TheSnoopy1750 7 months ago 4
@jmwwd You killed me with facts? LOL
1) NO WMDs WHEN WE INVADED - there were NONE found so not a threat to the U.S.
2) Regarding the fake SS # - the fact is that SS #s are recycled. More important, Obama is a U.S. citizen as proven by his B.C. and long form B.C. Even Trump stopped his lies.
3) Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty? No court has found Obama guilty. Someone filing a case against Obama does not make Obama guilty. Taitz has a record of filing frivolous lawsuits.
Loser.
TheSnoopy1750 7 months ago 3
@jmwwd So you actually think Saddam had WMDs - then why couldn't the entire U.S. military find them?
Why would Obama need a fake SS number? After all, he is a U.S. citizen. Or are you one of the remaining nut jobs who actually think the long form B.C. is a fake? LOL
What federal court agreed that Obama broke the law. Please provide the name of the case.
You obviously will never listen to facts so arguing with you is a waste of my time.
Have a nice delusional life.
TheSnoopy1750 7 months ago
@jmwwd You have obviously been listening to Orly Taitz, a nutbag that has been fined by the court for filing a frivolous lawsuit.
I guess being delusional is your preferred lifestyle. Just don't expect anyone with a brain or grasp of facts to agree with you.
TheSnoopy1750 7 months ago
@jmwwd Obama violated tons of federal laws?
Such as? Any courts agree with you?
Are you kidding about the long form B.C.? Show me one court that upheld a birther case.
What about Bush breaking international and U.S. laws by torturing prisoners, illegally wiretapping Americans, lying about WMDs etc. etc.?
You are obviously an ignorant delusional teabagger so there is no using logic to argue with you.
Dumb and ignorant is no way to go through life, but I hope you make the most of it.
TheSnoopy1750 7 months ago
@jmwwd Obama going to prison? LOL
You are truly delusional - what is the charge?
Do you even think before you comment? Of course not, you're an ignorant teabagger.
TheSnoopy1750 7 months ago
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What a bunch of stupid assholes.
MrExcellcior 7 months ago
Dumb white people.
page371069 7 months ago
@page371069
These are white people fighting against socialism, you ignorant, racist.
redcat608 7 months ago
@redcat608 What additional socialism is Obama advocating?
Trying to protect people from unscrupulous lenders and credit card companies? Returning tax rates for the top 2% to that during the Clinton era (22 million jobs created)?
Reagan raised taxes several times after his first year. HW Bush (the smart one) also did.
Bartlett (Reagan advisor) and even hard-core free market Greenspan says the Bush tax cuts must expire.
But don't let facts get in the way of your "socialist" propaganda. LOL
TheSnoopy1750 7 months ago
Nice hat dude.
jaded2424 7 months ago
Angry, ugly, and stupid is no way to go through life, people.
AceSkepTik 7 months ago 27
@AceSkepTik So you are criticizing people based on their appearance and intelligence? Why don't you just throw weight, sexual orientation, and skin color in their you fuckin bigot.
CambridgeHeights 7 months ago
@AceSkepTik You should not talk about ObaMao supporters that way, they can't help that they are ugly, stupid & angry. ObaMao is a socialist piece of shit & I don't believe a word that comes out of his mouth. You morons give him a pass on everything. Impeach the sack of lying shit NOW! Worst ever, worst than Carter!
19dan99 6 months ago
@19dan99 yes but is he really worse than bush? now lets be serious here and think before you answer lol
Flipped999 6 months ago
@Flipped999 Here is what the headlines read today : More Americans were living in poverty in 2010 than at any time since at least the 1950s, with the overall poverty rate climbing to 15.1 -- a 6 percent jump in just one year -- according to Census figures released Tuesday. Zerobama owns this & much more, no question, this man is so far in over his head it is scary. I am missing President Bush, a man with so much class. Impeach this Socialist NOW! ENOUGH SAID!
19dan99 6 months ago
@19dan99 lmfao yea he was pure class to laugh at everytime he was on TV i loved the guy, i do miss him funny guy
Flipped999 6 months ago
This video, contrary to the maker, actually shows the smartness of the Tea Party hey have been proven correct since now after over two years the on the White house website, still in defiance of his real record. Also to push your Democrat arty is wrong because both main parties have got us into the mess we are in bt especially the Democract majority in the last 6 years with their record spending
iconaclastor 7 months ago
This video, contrary to the maker, actually shows the smartness of the Tea Party people. They have been proven correct since now after over two years the President has made things worse by posting a photoshopped birth certificate on the White house website, still in defiance of his real record. Also to push your Democrat party is wrong because both main parties have got us into the mess we are in but especially the Democract majority in the last 6 years with their record spending.
iconaclastor 7 months ago
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Do you think America can come back with the current monetary system thru derivatives . QE-1 QE-2 QE-3 with corporations leaving and the economy not getting any better.If so your simply a dreamer National debt 14 trillion? another 70 tillion in obligations? lol Ron Paul 2012 !!
2020starman 7 months ago
"Why do you think he was born in Kenya ?".
"I'm very certain I read an ARTICLE about it."
GEZZ does everyone believes everything they read ?
jesse89LA 7 months ago 19
TEA BAGGERS = RACIST TERRORISTS
THEY HAVE NO RESPECT FOR OTHERS, ONLY THEIR WHITE PEOPLE...
HOW MANY LATINOS, BLACKS, ARABS, ASIANS DO U SEE AT THEIR RALLIES?
ONE? TWO? THREE? OK OK OK MAYBE FIVE LOL!
THEY FEW LATINOS N BLACKS WHO SUPPORT THESE RACIST TERRORISTS R NOTHING BUT IGNORANT IDIOTS, they r an embarrassment!
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TheLatinoNation 7 months ago
Teabaggers are so stupid
WhiteFlowerLei76 8 months ago
there made as hell and not going to take it anymore.........well there stupid as hell and IM! not going to take it anymore
longdistancePP 8 months ago
Do any of these people really believe that Hillary would have let Barrack up-end her run for President if he was not born in Hawaii? Hillary as in Clinton. Two newspaper announcements in 1961. Linda Lingle (look her up) agrees he was born here in Honolulu. If you want to be taken seriously stop being afraid and make sense.
tycovai 8 months ago
@tycovai exactly, these people are mental midgets
FoxsNewsReport 8 months ago
.....Yeah and Obama voters believe 911 was an inside job, so what's this video prove?
145Slap789 8 months ago
@145Slap789 Yes, obviously they all think the exact same way.
MikeEmery9 8 months ago
I believe Obama was born in Kenya, because he said so himself. The "alleged birth certificate" had been examined by photo experts and its a FAKE. It show obvious evidence it was photoshopped. Besides Obama himself, before the controversy, said his homeland is Kenya!!
For the record all the presidents since kennedy have done nothing but pull this country down. Reguardless of their party. It scares the shit out of the liberal that so many people are waking up.
unclefixer 8 months ago
I got a B in one class, and began to doubt my intelligence. I put on this video, and I'm like I'm not that bad. My intelligence is actually above average, if looking at them is what you consider average. I 'm praying to God that its not. :/
SexyandBrown 8 months ago
his named is Obama so he must not be american... RACIST!!
qwerty0900 8 months ago
Libtards are those who have no upstanding morals, because they- Oh im sorry i meant liberals. because they only are wanting to hurt those who truly love America and its founding efforts. The tea-party is about low taxes and small government. libtards want to make fun of everything they (upstanding America True Americans) law abiding Americans truly stand for.
willym1965 8 months ago
womit rot
swampdogg420420 8 months ago
Wow, what a weak attempt at discrediting the Tea Party movement. FAIL!
dentrobate54 8 months ago
@dentrobate54 It was actually really good. Considering the Birth Certificate was produced. These teabaggers are fucking dumb.
235RB 8 months ago
@235RB So you'd delegitimize the entire Tea Party movement and all the very serious concerns they've been raising in regards to the Federal Reserve, banker bailout, devaluing the currency, endless warfare, foreign occupation, erosion of states/individuals rights via Patriot Act, etc. all because they dare question why Barack Obama spent over $2 million to keep his birth certificate hidden from public view? Man, give your head a shake. Why the cover-up for so long if he had nothing to hide?
dentrobate54 8 months ago
@dentrobate54 Are you seriously using the false $2MM figure for Obama's birth certificate legal costs? LOL
That $2MM was for campaign-related legal bills and there was no breakdown regarding BC costs, if any.
Where were the teabaggers when Bush did the Patriot Act, bank bailout etc.? You guys are such tools, being manipulated by big business and the Koch brothers. Baggers actually still believe that tax cuts improve the economy and reduce the deficit - even Greenspan said they don't. LOL
TheSnoopy1750 8 months ago
i wanna make out with the girl at 3:15
keto6789 8 months ago
9 TRILLION Dollars Missing from Federal Reserve,Fed Inspector General Can't Explain
2020starman 8 months ago
The Tea Party is filled with braindead dolts who have no grasp on reality. The fact these assholes refuse to face reality when it comes to Obama is all the proof you need. He's our legal president.
lovecraftis 8 months ago 3
And some liberals actually believe their beliefs and values aren't directly in line with socialism. Ignorance is universal.
Mackberserk 8 months ago
@Mackberserk Given that the vast majority of Americans like Medicare, Medicaid, social security, the EPA, national highways, public education etc., I guess government control of many activities are what Americans really want, not just "liberals".
So we should get rid of the EPA? I guess you want to check your own water every day. How about the FCC? I guess you wouldn't mind paying a $250/month for your cell bill. The CDC - ever heard of bird flu? How about the FAA? I assume you never fly.
TheSnoopy1750 8 months ago 3
@TheSnoopy1750 It's human nature to want a free lunch and for somebody to take care of you. Europe has entirely given in to that way of life and they're doing great (I hear Greece and Spain are wonderful this time of year)... The vast majority of Americans DO NOT "like" the EPA OR the public education system, in general, and they see the need for major changes in Medicare, Medicaid, social security. National highways are actually the only intended, original responsibility of the federal gov.
Mackberserk 8 months ago
@TheSnoopy1750 The FCC and EPA are a bad joke that we all pay for. The basic functions of the EPA can be handled by states without green freaks imposing the "extras". The FCC is like a comms labor union nightmare. The CDC and FAA are necessary, but ultimately bloated bureaucracies that have drastically overreached in their purpose. Unfortunately, most wonderful agencies and programs these days have the adverse effect of strangling the life out of businesses through regulation.
Mackberserk 8 months ago
@Mackberserk How about the post office? Ever see how much UPS, Fedex or other private companies charge for 3-5 day mail?
Let's get rid of the FDIC - I assume you don't keep money in the bank. How about the SEC? Who needs regulations that prevent companies from fraudulent financial reporting like Worldcom and Enron. How about no financial regulation? That way we can have banks speculate recklessly again as they did under Bush's watch.
Do you get it yet? I'm afraid you don't.
TheSnoopy1750 8 months ago
@TheSnoopy1750 The post office is a great example of a near monopoly on mailing services. They can "afford" to undercut all competition simply because going out of business isn't an option. You're right! How about MORE regulation? People wonder why so many businesses are going overseas. It's not that difficult to figure out. Oppressive regulation + the highest corporate taxes in the world = mass exodus of industry.
Do YOU get it yet? Never mind.
Mackberserk 8 months ago
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TheSnoopy1750 8 months ago
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@Mackberserk You are only showing your ignorance.
Companies like Hewlett Packard ship jobs overseas as they can find well-educated tech workers at 1/5 the price. Lowering U.S. tax rates to 25% from 35% can't even come close to offsetting that massive salary difference.
Maybe you should take advantage of the public school system - you obviously could use it.
TheSnoopy1750 8 months ago
@Mackberserk So how did the lower Bush tax rates and less regulation turn out?
Oh yeah, we got a financial meltdown and almost no private job creation over 8 years.
Maybe you should look at facts instead of parroting tea party talking points.
Reagan raised taxes after his first year and HW Bush raised taxes as they knew it was necessary. In addition, Greenspan and Reagan econ advisors Bartlett and Stockman say the Bush taxes must expire.
Deregulation helps the Koch Brothers, not the U.S.
TheSnoopy1750 8 months ago
@TheSnoopy1750 The Bush tax cuts resulted in year after year increases in federal revenue to the treasury from 2004 to 2007. Additionally, 5 million jobs were created between 2003-06. The gdp, gross private domestic investment, and fixed investment rates all increased immediately following. Accordingly, allowing the cuts to expire would reduce work incentives and raise taxes on millions of families and small businesses, thereby further harming the economy and minimizing any new revenues.
Mackberserk 8 months ago
@TheSnoopy1750 The financial meltdown was a result of several different factors, despite Bush’s economic policies, and many not related to government at all. It’s easy to assume that a preceding event is the cause of a succeeding event simply because they occurred in that order. It’s called a false cause fallacy.
Mackberserk 8 months ago
@TheSnoopy1750 President Reagan was forced to raise payroll taxes due to a crisis in social security and was very reluctant to do so. He had to fight and negotiate with a Democrat-controlled congress every step of the way. Just because people advocate cutting taxes does not mean they do not also see the need to raise taxes given the appropriate circumstances. Liberals on the other hand NEVER want to cut taxes… You only want to satisfy your addiction to spend.
Mackberserk 8 months ago
@TheSnoopy1750 Conservatives believe capital is most productive in the hands of the people who earned it. Liberals on the other hand believe that government is a far better arbiter of how other people’s money should be allocated. This is the philosophical difference between you and I. That and you actually think more taxes on everyone will somehow produce something positive in the private sector.
Mackberserk 8 months ago
@TheSnoopy1750 Oppressive regulation does not create jobs or stimulate the economy. Some regulation is certainly necessary to level the playing field at times (i.e. to prevent monopolies). Bottom line: The private sector creates jobs, NOT the government. The government’s job is to get the hell out of the way. Useful idiots like you think putting up walls is somehow the solution. Brilliance.
Mackberserk 8 months ago
@Mackberserk You tea party morons think we should just deregulate everything and then all would be OK.
The Clinton years were damn good economically and we had more regulation and higher taxes. Care to explain?
We are in trouble now given Bush and his policies destroyed the country. And you want to go back to his policies of less financial/energy regulation and tax cuts. Greenspan recently said the Bush tax cuts are bad for the economy.
Yeah, you tea party people are real bright. lol
TheSnoopy1750 8 months ago
@TheSnoopy1750 The effectiveness of the Bush tax cuts was apparent when its enactment produced a sudden and dramatic turnaround in business investment, the stock market, and job numbers in 2003 alone. In contrast, there’s no similar correlation between President Clinton’s economic policies of raising taxes and the strong economy at the time he was in office.
Mackberserk 8 months ago
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Mackberserk 8 months ago
@Mackberserk You serious? the Bush Tax cuts are a huge part of the deficit. Dumbass.
235RB 8 months ago
@235RB Your assumption is based on the flawed conclusion that the U.S. has an issue with generating sufficient revenue when that is simply not true. Just the opposite, our government has a very tangible SPENDING issue which is inseparably tied to handouts. Refer to what I listed above regarding the specific benefits of the Bush tax cuts and Google them. You will find, to your surprise, that YOU are the dumbass.
Mackberserk 8 months ago
@Mackberserk Oh I know, Which goes right back to the Bush era, Man he sure knew how to spend. Two Unfunded wars, that cost 150 billion a year. Handouts, sure, Good ole cheny worked up some fat cost plus (doubt you know what they are) spending contracts with Black water and Haliburten, A company he was the former CEO of. "Specific benefits of theBush tax cuts" Thats an Oxymoron. Tax cuts for the rich. So they trickle their money down haha. please......
235RB 8 months ago
@235RB You are right - Bush's tax cuts, Bush's wars and the results of the Bush mega-recession comprise the large majority of the current and projected deficits.
The figures are widely available, but morons like @Mackberserk don't like to use facts or data in coming to conclusions.
Arguing with people like Mack is like trying to teach quantum physics to a cat. It is futile as they both lack the requisite intelligence and logical skills.
TheSnoopy1750 8 months ago
@TheSnoopy1750 Thanks for reiterating the FACTS, something republicans and tea baggers ignore. haha, theres no getting through to these people. Teabaggers conveinetly emerged when a Black guy came into office, what a coincidence, where were they when shit like the patriot act was passed, to defend civil liberties?
Logic and intelligence are always out of the question when talking to a teabagger. I get more intelligent responses from a pile of shit.
235RB 8 months ago
@235RB I agree with you 100%.
These ignorant teabaggers are pathetic. They hate being confronted with actual facts and prefer to be told what to think by Fox "News", Limbaugh etc.
TheSnoopy1750 8 months ago
@TheSnoopy1750 Haha I know, theres no getting through to them either. Haha Fox news, I bet they dont know that Fox is the most consistent when it comes to misonforming the viewers. I can't help but laugh at the right, I rarely take them seriously.
235RB 8 months ago
@235RB These guys actually think Fox is the only one telling them the truth and that EVERY other network (NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, PBS, Bloomberg, BBC) is part of a grand conspiracy with the evil liberal "Ivy League Intellectuals" and scientists.
Why do they think that? Because Fox tells them that nobody in the "mainstream media" can be trusted to speak the truth! LOL
If they're too stupid to understand that Fox is 100% republican/teaparty propaganda, they should abstain from having offspring.
TheSnoopy1750 8 months ago
@TheSnoopy1750 ahaha I know. Fox news is the biggest joke on television. The viewers of fox are either missing their front teeth or are over 65, and are still wanting to butt fuck Reagan. I cant see republican politics in the future, Does't seem like there is going to be a place for it. The only way is forward, Hence Why I am a progressive, the Republicans want to live in the dark ages. I describe conservative ideals like this: doing the same thing over and over and expecting differet results.
235RB 8 months ago
@235RB The republicans used to be a rational party.
Reagan would never be accepted in the republican party today - he was a social liberal, was the head of the actor's union, raised taxes and wanted a dramatic decrease in nuclear weapons. Furthermore, he cut and ran in Lebanon once things got tough there.
The republicans use ideology not facts to make decisions. I guess that makes sense as facts have a well-known liberal bias.
Have a nice day.
TheSnoopy1750 8 months ago
@235RB You are right about the republican party having no future. The demographics are turning against them.
In the next few decades, minorities will be the majority, young people are mostly progressive and racists will die off. The republican's solution is not to change their policies, but instead focus on voter suppression. They are making it difficult for blacks and college students to register.
The republican party uses fear, misinformation and religion to keep the gullible vote.
TheSnoopy1750 8 months ago
@TheSnoopy1750 Maybe you should check your facts instead of smearing people who simply want the government to stop reckless and irresponsible spending. But then I suppose that is your number one tactic, followed by but not limited to: misinformation, ad hominem, outright lying, class warfare, the race card, and shifting blame. Straight from the rules for radicals playbook. Yea, you libs sure know how to make up for lack of intelligence.
Mackberserk 8 months ago
@TheSnoopy1750 The economic growth and surplus under Clinton were the result of the technology boom, which Reagan’s tax rate cuts a decade earlier had stimulated. The only major pieces of legislation which stimulated the economy during his administration were welfare reform and the lowering of capital gains tax, BOTH sponsored by a GOP controlled congress. Yes, the economy flourished… IN SPITE OF imposed regulation and taxation. That caught up to the eco in 2001, just before Bush righted it
Mackberserk 8 months ago
@Mackberserk So the tech/internet boom was due to Reagan's tax cuts? LOL
Also, you are wrong about the tax cuts - Reagan actually raised taxes after his first year because he knew it had to be done or the deficit would balloon. Furthermore, HW Bush raised taxes despite promising not to. So Clinton actually had pretty high taxes. Yet job creation was 22 million and we saw good GDP growth.
So I guess you have to admit that higher taxes does not preclude an economic boom. Facts prove this.
TheSnoopy1750 8 months ago
@Mackberserk Furthermore, David Stockman and Bruce Bartlett (Reagan advisors) say the Bush tax cuts must be allowed to expire.
Greenspan, an Ayn Rand disciple, also agrees that we must get rid of the tax cuts. Not to mention almost every other top independent economist. Look at the breakdown of our deficit - Bush tax cuts and wars are a very big part of it.
I guess you are one of the suckers buying into the lie that tax cuts will grow the economy. How does it feel to be that ignorant?
TheSnoopy1750 8 months ago
@TheSnoopy1750 Lie after distortion after lie. You Libs are incredible revisionists of historical events without equal. This notion that you can tax, spend, and regulate your way to solvency and prosperity is not at all supported by the reality of history. Alas, my patience for correcting your specious reasoning and misconstrued recollection of events is exhausted. Clearly, you've been educated beyond your ability to think for yourself. What a waste of oxygen, space, and now, my time.
Mackberserk 8 months ago
@Mackberserk "Lie after distortion after lie. You Libs are incredible revisionists of historical events without equal. "
What exactly did I lie about? Reagan and H.W. Bush (the smart Bush) raised taxes. Greenspan and Stockman recently stated that the Bush tax cuts must expire - do you know more about tax policy than them? Clinton had a booming economy with higher tax rates than now.
You teabagger morons need to learn that just because you don't like a fact does not make it a lie.
TheSnoopy1750 8 months ago