Again, the forest changed but the Baboons remained the same. Let Ruto resign honourably. We are tired with corruption. If the minister cannot take charge of a situation that relates to a basic human necessity (food), then he merits not to be trusted at all. Remember that a leader should be the servant of his people. You cannot lead a hungry lot. ... Remember NSSF scandal, YK92, Ethnic clashes 1992, 1997,2002, 2008? And now ladies and gentlemen I present to you the Maize scandal 2009 with Ruto..
Therefore Guys stop acting like u r the ones who knows about the PEV and others don't; trying to tell us your stupidity after every single ntv news clip; We the silent ones knows better than you, empty debes. Don't you guys have some homework or you can't even perform in school anymore? I hate it that u,ve made me spend all this time doing this, but u guys do this daily an u ain't go a problem with it! U r surely retards....Kivuitu, Kibaki, Kalonzo, Karua, Police Bosses....they have a lot cming!
If you follow my comments on all the clips, I have called on both sides to resign. Kibaki, Ruto, Raila, Saitoti, Kalonzo etc have a lot to answer for in ICC. i DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER TO YOU. i'M MORE UPSET WITH RUTO AND RAILA BECAUSE I SUPPORTED THEM AND HAVE ENDED UP LIKE KIBAKI STEALING MAIZE. All these guys have to go!
how would he expect Kibaki 2 b insane enough 2 kill his supporters with the police having already robbed them of democracy? I am no fan of Raila, I will not dismiss him blindly becos I like accepting the truth; And the truth is he used words that shall stand as his witness, "He called on his people not 2 engage in Violence, an to hold Peaceful Protest, but the police and other "special" Kenyans were allowed to provoke them into action or attack them and they had 2 deffend. That is justified...!
Come on really R some Kenyans Dogs and others Humans jst becos their guy is Prezzo?....I can believe that Ruto is guilty but like all Critics will tell you, it's hard to pin him down without hard evidence beyond reasonable doubt and, well, he is very likely 2 escape the HooK "Legally," Raila is 99% likely to be proved innocent just as would Zimbabwe's Morgan; He was the Victim and calling his people to stage "Peaceful Protests" is a globally justified action; After all.....
Who followed up Kalenjins who were never recorded or cought in the act, arresting as many as they could from their homes (without proof or care who actually did what and who didn't) while Kyuks whose Vids pulling pasngers out and hucking them to death r out here to this time yet they sleep in the warmth of their homes beside their wives, while many Kales that cannot by all means proved guilty r still languishing in jail; as if Kikuyus' burning Luos was less worse than Kales burning Kikuyus....
Who said Kofi's coming was just 4 a cup of tea n that "there was no problem in Kenya while imposing media restriction and setting the police on killing spree; whose Police Used live bullets on people holding globally justified protests and killed them in cold blood in front of intntnl cameras; whose Police stood aside and claimed they were overwhelmed when it was Kikuyus turn to Kill other Kenyans but never overwhelmed when it was others on Kikuyus (no matter the number); come on really...Cont
the way these people talks makes me laugh! i know this language was implemented by british empire but you assholes still can not speak it properly so would u please go back to ur original LANGUAGE? i watch some NTVs' clips just for laugh, it looks like a comdey news channel making fun of English language!
Wanyoike, it's not my creteria but facts surrounding the jurisdiction of icc. I'm only attempting to point to them while highlighting the fact that a local tribunal is the best way to get justice for the PEV.
daddycliff you seem to trivialize PEV...bona watetea wauwaji or are you guilty by association? How many innocent Kenyans had to die to meet your criteria for genocide that warrant Hague jurisdiction...2,000, 20,000, 200,000, 2,000,000?
The threat of the Hague, is just that, a threat factored in to the Waki Report to encourage the formation of a speacial tribunal court. Now that the threat has failed to deliver, justice has also gone up in smoke. ICC has only opened investigations into four situations since its inception in 2002. It has issued arrest warrants for twelve individuals of which only four are in its custody. The Waki list has ten names, Does that mean the PEV situation tops crimes against humanity in the world?
daddycliff - It doesn't matter what the ICC has done before. Kenya will be a special situation and an example of what it can do. Remember there is always the first time. The crooks are headed up there in the Hague. Then at least we can begin all over without them. As for Raila saying his life is in danger, I think it's a gimmick to get sympathy. He knows the public is out of him after he concluded with Ruto to steal maize. Raila Odinga needs to retire from active politics. William ruto must go!
whoever told you that we finally have lift off, is lying. The hague Justice will require a very high amount of cooperation with Kenyan authorities. If they couldn't cooperate with the president, how will they cooperate with an admnistration in europe? When the hague issues arrest warrants, it will take years for kenya to follow those orders. The case will be swept under the carpet-you wait. To add to that, do you really think these MPs are stupid to have let this issue go hague way? LOOPHOLES!!!
You talk of LOOHOLES. But justice will be served. It's better to follow the ICC and have afew or none convicted in Kenya. Let it take years but will make a strong message to these crooks.
There are far many atrocities commited around the world that dwarf the post election violence that took place in Kenya, yet they haven't seen the light of day at the Hague. The local tribunal was the best opportunity for justice to be done. The Hague factor has all along been a bluff, and the violence perpetrators know it, and they have called parliament on it. The P.E.V. were heinous but they do not meet the ICC treshold for crimes against humanity and are thus not subject to its jurisdiction.
Do you expect the big fish to fry themselves? The local tribunal cannot prosecute the big fish. Only The Hage can prosecute these thugs who are now "above the law" ! Remember the unfinished business of political assasinations of Pinto, Mboya, Karumba, JM, Ouko, Mbai? What of Goldenburg, Angloleasing, media raids, etc., etc., ... Only The Hague can issue the arrest warrant for even the head of state.
The Hague has prosecuted the former Yugoslav president Slobodan Milosevic, his political ally Radovan Karadzic, the Liberian ex-president Charles Taylor and soon Sudan president Al Bashir. Kenyan local tribunal have never and will never prosecute anybody, even Kamlesh Patni knows
The guilty are afraid! Let Hague decide this heinous crime against humanity! Over 2000 Kenyans and indeed more have died in politically instigated genocide! Why should tax payers money be spent to setup a toothless tribunal prosecute the politically connected only for the report be shelved as is the norm..Hague beckons!
As much as I support The Hague, some of you associate The Hague with Ruto only. The Hague has not been too kind with the criminal heads of state either because they have the mechanism of either stopping or perpetrating genocide. For example, most of the killings took place in the Rift Valley but the police was sent to western Kenya where mostly innocent protesters were gunned down in cold blood by their own government! Does Milosevich, Charles Taylor, Rwanda, and Omar Bashir ring a bell?
Hey, Africayetu n Tzayetu, u two Cock suckers r real loaded wid nonsense. U write biasness in aim to claim u r 4 truth, but hey listen up kids; u've followed every video with proper childishness so long. Time 4 some 2 grow u up. I condemn Ruto too, but as far as PEV, there r names 2 b projected more than u r doing Ruto's. "!!!Very First of all!!!" Kivuitu. Kibaki n the co (Alfred Mutua, Karua...) who 1st barred mediation deal from taking place hence even more lives lost.... Continued...
I am applying for a job in the Hague as a specialist chef to offer Kenyan delicacies to the soon to be guests there. Or should we carry a veteran chef from Kamiti so that we can have a truly Kenyan Prison Specials (half cooked ugali and a watery cabbage frothy). Ha ha haaaaa! Can't wait to see the unfolding drama!
They are lucky that they will just be depressed not to eat my food, many are those that died due to acts of commission or omission by these vampires and many are those that have nothing to eat due to the same reasons by the same people. Why go for the panga wielding ignorant Kenyan who killed on commission and leave loose the commissioner?
This is an indication that the is power vacuum in Kenya. No one can take any step towards the corrupt individuals who are causing death through selfish gains. No one can trust the judicially even the law makers. Where are we heading? Who will save our country?
Again, the forest changed but the Baboons remained the same. Let Ruto resign honourably. We are tired with corruption. If the minister cannot take charge of a situation that relates to a basic human necessity (food), then he merits not to be trusted at all. Remember that a leader should be the servant of his people. You cannot lead a hungry lot. ... Remember NSSF scandal, YK92, Ethnic clashes 1992, 1997,2002, 2008? And now ladies and gentlemen I present to you the Maize scandal 2009 with Ruto..
tanzaniayetu 3 years ago
Twataka lugha ya taifa bungeni. Tuacheni hii kasumba ya ukoloni!
akuraoo 3 years ago
Therefore Guys stop acting like u r the ones who knows about the PEV and others don't; trying to tell us your stupidity after every single ntv news clip; We the silent ones knows better than you, empty debes. Don't you guys have some homework or you can't even perform in school anymore? I hate it that u,ve made me spend all this time doing this, but u guys do this daily an u ain't go a problem with it! U r surely retards....Kivuitu, Kibaki, Kalonzo, Karua, Police Bosses....they have a lot cming!
Changeling11 3 years ago
If you follow my comments on all the clips, I have called on both sides to resign. Kibaki, Ruto, Raila, Saitoti, Kalonzo etc have a lot to answer for in ICC. i DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER TO YOU. i'M MORE UPSET WITH RUTO AND RAILA BECAUSE I SUPPORTED THEM AND HAVE ENDED UP LIKE KIBAKI STEALING MAIZE. All these guys have to go!
Africayetu 3 years ago
how would he expect Kibaki 2 b insane enough 2 kill his supporters with the police having already robbed them of democracy? I am no fan of Raila, I will not dismiss him blindly becos I like accepting the truth; And the truth is he used words that shall stand as his witness, "He called on his people not 2 engage in Violence, an to hold Peaceful Protest, but the police and other "special" Kenyans were allowed to provoke them into action or attack them and they had 2 deffend. That is justified...!
Changeling11 3 years ago
Come on really R some Kenyans Dogs and others Humans jst becos their guy is Prezzo?....I can believe that Ruto is guilty but like all Critics will tell you, it's hard to pin him down without hard evidence beyond reasonable doubt and, well, he is very likely 2 escape the HooK "Legally," Raila is 99% likely to be proved innocent just as would Zimbabwe's Morgan; He was the Victim and calling his people to stage "Peaceful Protests" is a globally justified action; After all.....
Changeling11 3 years ago
Who followed up Kalenjins who were never recorded or cought in the act, arresting as many as they could from their homes (without proof or care who actually did what and who didn't) while Kyuks whose Vids pulling pasngers out and hucking them to death r out here to this time yet they sleep in the warmth of their homes beside their wives, while many Kales that cannot by all means proved guilty r still languishing in jail; as if Kikuyus' burning Luos was less worse than Kales burning Kikuyus....
Changeling11 3 years ago
Who said Kofi's coming was just 4 a cup of tea n that "there was no problem in Kenya while imposing media restriction and setting the police on killing spree; whose Police Used live bullets on people holding globally justified protests and killed them in cold blood in front of intntnl cameras; whose Police stood aside and claimed they were overwhelmed when it was Kikuyus turn to Kill other Kenyans but never overwhelmed when it was others on Kikuyus (no matter the number); come on really...Cont
Changeling11 3 years ago
Hii ni kitu gani? Mbona tusitumie lugha yetu ya taifa bungeni?
HeshimaJameni 3 years ago
the way these people talks makes me laugh! i know this language was implemented by british empire but you assholes still can not speak it properly so would u please go back to ur original LANGUAGE? i watch some NTVs' clips just for laugh, it looks like a comdey news channel making fun of English language!
AfghansWorld 3 years ago
"All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." -- Edmund Burke
wanyoike7 3 years ago
Wanyoike, it's not my creteria but facts surrounding the jurisdiction of icc. I'm only attempting to point to them while highlighting the fact that a local tribunal is the best way to get justice for the PEV.
daddycliff 3 years ago
daddycliff you seem to trivialize PEV...bona watetea wauwaji or are you guilty by association? How many innocent Kenyans had to die to meet your criteria for genocide that warrant Hague jurisdiction...2,000, 20,000, 200,000, 2,000,000?
wanyoike7 3 years ago
The threat of the Hague, is just that, a threat factored in to the Waki Report to encourage the formation of a speacial tribunal court. Now that the threat has failed to deliver, justice has also gone up in smoke. ICC has only opened investigations into four situations since its inception in 2002. It has issued arrest warrants for twelve individuals of which only four are in its custody. The Waki list has ten names, Does that mean the PEV situation tops crimes against humanity in the world?
daddycliff 3 years ago
daddycliff - It doesn't matter what the ICC has done before. Kenya will be a special situation and an example of what it can do. Remember there is always the first time. The crooks are headed up there in the Hague. Then at least we can begin all over without them. As for Raila saying his life is in danger, I think it's a gimmick to get sympathy. He knows the public is out of him after he concluded with Ruto to steal maize. Raila Odinga needs to retire from active politics. William ruto must go!
Africayetu 3 years ago
wacha wakule mavi hawa. Hague ndio kiboko.
Africayetu 3 years ago
whoever told you that we finally have lift off, is lying. The hague Justice will require a very high amount of cooperation with Kenyan authorities. If they couldn't cooperate with the president, how will they cooperate with an admnistration in europe? When the hague issues arrest warrants, it will take years for kenya to follow those orders. The case will be swept under the carpet-you wait. To add to that, do you really think these MPs are stupid to have let this issue go hague way? LOOPHOLES!!!
masaa121 3 years ago
You talk of LOOHOLES. But justice will be served. It's better to follow the ICC and have afew or none convicted in Kenya. Let it take years but will make a strong message to these crooks.
Africayetu 3 years ago
let heads roll i think some of them already have muharo ,malipo ni hapa hapa duniani
mwendapolee 3 years ago
There are far many atrocities commited around the world that dwarf the post election violence that took place in Kenya, yet they haven't seen the light of day at the Hague. The local tribunal was the best opportunity for justice to be done. The Hague factor has all along been a bluff, and the violence perpetrators know it, and they have called parliament on it. The P.E.V. were heinous but they do not meet the ICC treshold for crimes against humanity and are thus not subject to its jurisdiction.
daddycliff 3 years ago
Do you expect the big fish to fry themselves? The local tribunal cannot prosecute the big fish. Only The Hage can prosecute these thugs who are now "above the law" ! Remember the unfinished business of political assasinations of Pinto, Mboya, Karumba, JM, Ouko, Mbai? What of Goldenburg, Angloleasing, media raids, etc., etc., ... Only The Hague can issue the arrest warrant for even the head of state.
HeshimaJameni 3 years ago
The Hague has prosecuted the former Yugoslav president Slobodan Milosevic, his political ally Radovan Karadzic, the Liberian ex-president Charles Taylor and soon Sudan president Al Bashir. Kenyan local tribunal have never and will never prosecute anybody, even Kamlesh Patni knows
mabeste08 3 years ago
Kibaki looked as though he was about to give a free district to one member in exchange for a vote. LOL
Africayetu 3 years ago
The guilty are afraid! Let Hague decide this heinous crime against humanity! Over 2000 Kenyans and indeed more have died in politically instigated genocide! Why should tax payers money be spent to setup a toothless tribunal prosecute the politically connected only for the report be shelved as is the norm..Hague beckons!
wanyoike7 3 years ago
Let them get a lesson of their lives. It's about time. Ruto must go!
Africayetu 3 years ago
As much as I support The Hague, some of you associate The Hague with Ruto only. The Hague has not been too kind with the criminal heads of state either because they have the mechanism of either stopping or perpetrating genocide. For example, most of the killings took place in the Rift Valley but the police was sent to western Kenya where mostly innocent protesters were gunned down in cold blood by their own government! Does Milosevich, Charles Taylor, Rwanda, and Omar Bashir ring a bell?
HeshimaJameni 3 years ago
Kibaki will have to explain that in the Hague.... He will meet charles taylor behind the scenes.
Africayetu 3 years ago
Hey, Africayetu n Tzayetu, u two Cock suckers r real loaded wid nonsense. U write biasness in aim to claim u r 4 truth, but hey listen up kids; u've followed every video with proper childishness so long. Time 4 some 2 grow u up. I condemn Ruto too, but as far as PEV, there r names 2 b projected more than u r doing Ruto's. "!!!Very First of all!!!" Kivuitu. Kibaki n the co (Alfred Mutua, Karua...) who 1st barred mediation deal from taking place hence even more lives lost.... Continued...
Changeling11 3 years ago
I am applying for a job in the Hague as a specialist chef to offer Kenyan delicacies to the soon to be guests there. Or should we carry a veteran chef from Kamiti so that we can have a truly Kenyan Prison Specials (half cooked ugali and a watery cabbage frothy). Ha ha haaaaa! Can't wait to see the unfolding drama!
mytime81 3 years ago
The convicts will be too depressed to eat and so you could end up eating all the food on your own. Do you have the shit-belly for that?
bwanakeino 3 years ago
They are lucky that they will just be depressed not to eat my food, many are those that died due to acts of commission or omission by these vampires and many are those that have nothing to eat due to the same reasons by the same people. Why go for the panga wielding ignorant Kenyan who killed on commission and leave loose the commissioner?
mytime81 3 years ago
This is an indication that the is power vacuum in Kenya. No one can take any step towards the corrupt individuals who are causing death through selfish gains. No one can trust the judicially even the law makers. Where are we heading? Who will save our country?
kajrn 3 years ago
Ruto must go! He belongs to the Hague. He knows very well what he did in Eldoret. where is the maize?
tanzaniayetu 3 years ago
i love teh foot clap
auamoti 3 years ago