Listen here you skin shedding fucker.were in a new age were we get along,i have alot of white friends that will beat your ass for this,and your an old man too.that support your getting from them followers,,they need to reserch history..if you notice certian ape an moneys,baboons,ect families,there skin is light coloered,so that monkey curious george really look at what your holding.we came from the same sperm..who the fuck are you? Becareful out here,and posting on youtube,,we got cell phones.
@aksstar Typical leftist! Immediately jump to yelling out RACIST ! BIGOT ! HOMOPHOBE ! How was that racist or facist?? And how are the two terms even related!? They are not. And who cares if it was racist/facist...does it affect you. I hate democrats first and foremost ;-)
@aksstar yea and i've seen just as many democrat "racists". every1 is racist - youre just so PC that the thought of being called a name like racist sends you whimpering with your tail between your legs into the corner. boohoo - what are you afraid of? They can't hurt you. Seen this commercial for Oprah (yea like id watch that) where these ppl come back to her show after 25 yrs and lament and moan on tv looking for other peoples approval now, all b/c they were "racists" back then. Bull crap!
@japierce15 You're living in denial. There was institutionalized racism and discrimination in this country. Racism itself is thriving. It's just that government isn't there to enforce those Jim Crow laws anymore. Here is how I see it. Back in the 40s and 60s democrats were the racists now it's the republicans. The southern strategy made sure you controlled the south and would control the north i.e. 2011. I don't get offended. I just call out stupidity wherever I see it. Guy in the video = racist
It is very typical of people who lack education to make such stupid remarks. When people criticize others by racial slurs and stereotypes, it shows the lack of education that they so desperately need. I have no doubt in my mind that Obama is not upset by the stupidity that is demonstrated. Here is what you all need to do: Get an education and demonstrate some maturity. While you are here talking about Obama, he has a nice degree from Harvard hanging on the wall in his office :D HAHAHAHA
Hehheh that ion this world theres only few white asses that has nuts to say nigger to someone face to face when they are alone! Im half Afro-American and i live in Finland. In here the nazis are pussys. The biggest problem here is the finlands NBK (Natural Born Killers) They aint joking and they are serious people
Hehheh that ion this world theres only few white asses that has nuts to say nigger to someone face to face when they are alone! Im half Afro-American and i live in Finland. In here the nazis are pussys. The biggest problem here is the finlands NBK (Natural Born Killers) They aint joking and they are serious people!
watch?v=sJ_7mEWoWI8&feature=fvw here's the video of him giving the monkey away. Weird that he was so proud of it in this video, but later tries to hide it.
In-breeders, you'll always come in last. You’re too ignorant to be a threat to anyone. Your time is up. Is that the best you can do, an adult monkey playing with a monkey doll? C'mon Man! Barack Obama is more intelligent than any off you will ever be, that’s the real reason you’re afraid. So cease with the monkey jokes, its 2010 not 1810. Go screw some more relatives.
@huglo1808 and the pro-Obama group can only think well enough to come up with "go screw some more relatives"? Wow, you all really are the inteligentisia aren't you.
How about this? We know that the majority of the executive branch of this nations' gov't and the President in particular (because he is the head executive) are breaching the Constitution of the United States by stealing money from the taxpayer to pay off any lobbying group that pays. And it has been happening for centuries.
because obama is already pres i still watch out for these people now they racist dangerous and can be the one to destroyed this country i just cant understand southerns people and black country folks get right in the same line with them cause they no no better thats why i feel all americans in the south need to come to new york to see how everybody walk talk and get along together.i can tell a red nick when they come to manhattan they look scared 9saying 0 while i cant believe all these people
@supercunderlover Black people poor into stone Mountain Park in Georgia and spend endless money....yet the park has 3 conferderate flags flying at the base and other confederate symbols. I just walk up and down the moutain...not a candy bar in the snack shop...
@Nordin886 Not only that, HE INSULTED MONKEYS EVERYWHERE!!!!. Where is the compassion for poor animals. They can't help it if their ears are as big as buttcrack's!!!
Why didn't they show the tea party group? Looks like a bunch of AFL/CIO "workers" standing in line to vote a few times. And make a fake video. Not an American Flag, or Don't tread on me flag to be seen, just some union slug faking a video. Good work, you could get a job at MSCBC, CBS, NBC, or PBS.
@unionrodngun Judging from this I'm gonna assume you think Fox News is a reliable news source. #LOL What you need to do is go get yourself some basic critical thinking skills. I heard they're cheap at walmart because you really need it if you think Fox News is a reliable news source.
we all want what's best for OURSELVES and our loved ones.....my folks were immigrants who supported Clinton for Amnesty when we were illegals, but now we're documented, my folks r saying "fuck the illegals"...im like WHAT?!?!?!
Plz ppl, don't be hypocrits, thats the worst fuking shit ever
That old man's probably gonna die soon anyway. He shouldn't worry about who's the president, rather just counting on how many hours he has left of life.
ATTENTION NIGGERS, SPADES, COONS, PORCH-MONKEYS, SPOOKS: Niggers are the scum of the earth, useless to society and themselves and cursed by God (curse of Ham). The world would be a better place without this sub-human slave-race (less disease, criminals, laziness, stupidity and racism)
P.S. YOU ALL LOOK LIKE THE SHIT THAT COMES OUT OF MY ASS AND I WANT TO USE YOU AS TOILET PAPER.........LOL!
There are racists in both parties...I wonder if "homie" knows that the Republican Party freed the slaves that's if he is a Repub...that's all the ammunition the Dems need to portray the Tea Party Movement as a bunch of Right Wing Racists...when in fact their party is the racist party..."homie "needs to ditch the doll and stop misrepresenting!!!!
This is one racist loser stewing in his own hateful monkey mind projection. Anyone who is this racist is not an American cuz America is noblehearted diversity not weakhearted idiocy like this shit for brains dumbass.
Bush was portrayed as a monkey? What's the problem? Oh wait, white people have to go out of their way to keep from offending blacks. However, we don't get the same curtisy from them. Check out the F.B.I. crime stats for more info on how blacks VIOLATE us in epic proportions!!
Whites violated blacks a long time ago. We've got the history books on that VIOLENT behavior. Let me give you some people who has endured such violence: Martin Luther King Jr., Harriet Tubman, Emmet Till, Nat Turner, Federick Douglas, and the list goes on and on. All these people wanted was freedom, but no, they had to deal with Jim Crow Laws, and segregation, slavery. Go check out those VIOLENT epic proportions!!!!
@itsnobody i see your point about bush being stupid like a monkey but i dont quite see the connection with obama...like him or not, there is nothing stupid about obama...
You're missing the intended racism of that guy with the creepy laugh. Traditionally, blacks had been characterized as sub-human, even monkey like. This man obviously is playing to that characterization, which really highlights the undertoned racism in this entire "movement."
racism is as american as apple pie. didn't you hear that guy cackling with disdain? conservative repubs and the gop don't care about america. they only care about power. it should be obvious to all by now.
So the Dem's don't care about power? You are a moron if you think they do not. Seem's to me government is trying to get more and more power over the last 11 month's!
wow. you sound like an idiot to not know that dems want power, but not at the expense of american's civil liberties. repubs always work to limit personal freedoms, yet scream if confronted with similar legislation limiting their reach.
...and folks still think this seller's market is going to end on 2012? give me a break, better yet, i blow job. fyi: the only thing w's cousin changed, was the perception of staying the course. none of this crap started last november. nor did it begin 8 years ago. this precious country has been outsourced for quite some time now.
fuck u ur just a typical old fucking capilistic bastard who wants to run the u.s to the ground like your other republicans...thank god u only have a few years left looking at your age cause you r the ones who fucked up the country and lost the chance for the younger generations to get anywhere...great job.
his a 'stupid'..dont even bother to entertain this hand job..he was in the other video, looking like a child trying to hide his little doll because he thought a member of the security were filming him..cowards are as cowards do...or something:-)
@cymandekj obama got the last laugh on all you morons that supported him..............i bet there will never be another black pres he has fucked up soooooooooo soooo badly. just proved the stereotypes were right
@cymandekj yeah everyone's laughing especially at all of the People that Voted for Obama and supported him and his Lip Service ..Just Look at the Horrible job hes doing i don't think he Has told the truth or did One thing he said he was going to do ...Ron Paul was the Best and Most Honest Candidate ...
@cymandekj "Obama got the last laugh and the rest of America" - I take it your lack of ability to speak English is significant of your lack of cold critical thinking and explains why you don't understand that the rest of America isn't having the "last laugh". The only people laughing are the bankers on Wall St to whom Soetoro has given $700,000,000,000. They are laughing all the way inside their banks while outside black and white racists boo and cheer their respective heroes and villians
@aksstar Obama is a dumbass, won because hes black, and has done nothing for this country except increase unemployment and spend more money then any US president before him? I think that sums it all up.
@bigbob6556 Interesting, so Obama has done nothing right?
Well he got Bin Laden, he made sure that 14 million Americans will have adequate health insurance, he is bringing out troops home, he saved the auto industry, and he is only in his first term. Now if you want to blame someone for our problems then I suggest you start with the nearest republican that said they would do nothing if healthcare passes.
@Ryooken #1, he DID NOT get Osama, our troops that risked their lives for. In fact, Obama was against the entire middle east invasion yet he claims HE GOT HIM? #2 Obamas healthcare plan is unconstitutional and will not pass. #3 HE IS NOT bringing troops home you stupid prick, he is sending them all to afghanistan. So why dont you learn your facts, you dipshit incompetent liberal shithead.
@bigbob6556 Actually you again are wrong. Obama was against going to war with Iraq because they didn't attack us. He had no problem going to Afganistan. He did authorize the taking out of Osama. This is the problem, you don't know what you're talking about right now there are 90,000 troops in Afganistan. Although he is going to have an increased naval fleet in the Persian gulf, he isn't surging anymore troops into Afganistan.
@Ryooken Actually, Obama already did send a surge of troops to Afghanistan. Also, he ordered the summary execution of an American citizen who was undoubtedly a terrorist but a citizen nonetheless. He is also for increasing taxes to fund unconstitutional spending and debt that is enslaving my generation to the debts of the last century of generations. There is a mountain of evidence that convinces me that Obama and 99% of our elected leaders are enemies of our Constitution and our Liberty.
@bigbob6556 Hey, you should probably read a little before you write. I'm pretty sure I'm on your side saying that Obama is surging troops and I was pointing out that he has already done a troop surge.
In summary...
2008-----30,100 troops
2009-----50,700 troops
2010-2012------60,500 troops
The surge already happened and soon we'll have 100k troops in Afghanistan.
And don't call an Iraq war veteran kiddo you fatass.
@dlstb Show me where he promoted summary executions. Yes, Obama did send surge troops to Afganistan because until new intel arrived Osama was thought to still be in Afganistan. I am sorry but Obama hasn't increase taxes once in his term of office. Any spending he did was to shore up the economy, and protect the American people's health. If you want to blame someone for the debt then you need to deal with his predicessor.
@Ryooken You retards always want to keep pointing out problems from the past like we can pull a doc. Brown and go back and fix the fact that G. Bush (both) was a rino and supporter of a global gov't.
The reality is that Obama and EVERY member of Congress that has ever voted to spend tax dollars in a manner inconsistent with the Constitution is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such. It doesn't matter if you and he think that spending other peoples' money is right or okay.
@dlstb You seem to be under some misconceptions. The reason we are in debt right now is because Obama is fixing GW Bush's mess. Government couldn't sit on their hands and do nothing and let the country fall. As for whether i think that spending other people's money is right or not, let me point out something to you. First it's not just your tax money but mine too. So stop whining about spending. We allowed big business to destroy the economy and Obama is trying to fix it.
@Ryooken You are the one under misconceptions. It is gov't regulation that created the weak automarket by not allowing for real competition. Also, it is immoral for gov't to prop up any industry no matter how big. All that leads to is subversion of the corrective powers of the market system. Of course, we haven't had true capitalism in this nation for more than a century because idiots like you cannot accept the fact that sometimes bad businesses have to fail.
@dlstb You know what you need to do is stop promoting this crap. GW Bush deregulated everything in his power and since I work for the federal government I should know. I suggest you get a book called Government and Business. I also suggest you take a class on it so you can learn something about how government supports and regulates business to promote prosperity in the country and prevent usery of the poplace.
@Ryooken "Usery of the poplace" (sic) What do you call the gov't robbing the taxpayers at the point of a gun and the risk of enslavement if they don't comply all for the sake of bailing out crooked businessmen and providing forced welfare systems that perpeuate a cycle of gov't reliance? I'd call that usery but what do I know? I'm just a Marine Corps veteran. So what was that about you working for the fed? Maybe you are just trying to convince people to not fire you from a worthless job.
@dlstb Oh please spare me the government is robbing us. They aren't. What the government does is tax us. Putting that money into a community fund to pay for the services we cannot afford individually. For example, road construction. First they didn't bailout crooked businessmen by choice. They bailed out these businesses so the eocnomy wouldn't crazy keeping us away from a second depression. While I may not like this, I understand why they did it.
@Ryooken Really? They gov't spends money bailing out businesses so we don't go through a depression? And how has that worked out for you? We are up to our eyeballs in debt being backed by the labor of future generations and we are still seeing soaring unemployment, rampant inflation, and threatened by increased taxation and further exploitation of the American taxpayer. BTW, ANY gov't debt is tantamount to generational theft and the enslavement of future generations. I wish it was just taxes.
@dlstb LOL! Well since we didn't go through a depression, the auto industry is solvent now and has paid the federal government back and we are slowly recovering. You name a time when the US government hasn't been in debt? I can't. I can name a time when we had a balanced budget but we have been debt for a long time.
@Ryooken Past precedent of immoral, illegal, and irreprehensible behavior is no excuse for continuing that behavior. That'd be the same argument that the pro-slavery movement would put up in the 1800's. Also, the US gov't didn't always operate on debt and direct taxation. It used to operate off of user fees and taxes collected off the movement of good through ports owned by the gov't. And please let me know when we had a balanced budget. IE, the last time our year over year debt increase was 0.
@dlstb Oh please spare me the comparison. I find it trite especially considering that I am African American. You are claiming that we should pay taxes to help the working poor have a decent living and not forced into abject slavery while you claim that paying legitimate taxes is the same argument slavers used to promote slavery. I don't have boots that high to walk across the bs your claiming.
@Ryooken What does your being black matter? (BTW, you are not african American unless you live in Africa then moved here, you are an American who happens to be black. You'd do better using this desctiption of yourself unless you enjoy continued racism in America.) It is not the responsibility of the US gov't to ensure that every citizen makes a certain wage or maintains a certain lifestyle. Therefore, any tax used to fund such is merely theft and becuase it is legal it is tantamount to slavery
@dlstb I am not black I am African American like I said before. You seem to forget what that means. Let me explain since you obviously have no education to speak of. People descended from Africa either directly or indirectly are called African American. Actually the 1938 Fair Labor Standards Act would disagree with you. It was another bid by the US government to prevent slavery through economics by ensuring that people made a living wage.
@Ryooken You really need to look up Milton Friedman again because I think you've either forgotten or never saw his piece on minimum wages. Basically, the minimum wage was the most anti-black law ever written because it closed to job market to uneducated men and women who were at that time typically black. This disallowed black people from having the ability to work and learn the job at the same time which is KEY to gaining more bargaining power over your labor.
@dlstb I already know what Friedman says. What you need to do is look up the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 and it's history to fully understand economic slavery. Read the pre-amble as to why it is necessary. You also seem to have forgotten that they used to pay blacks less while the white people they paid more while they were doing the same job. The minimum wage changed some of that even though it goes on today.
@dlstb By doing so the US government prevented slavery. If not for the minimum wage the current economic system would collapse. As this country was built on free labor in the past people of means wanted to keep slavery going so they would not always pay their employees or they would find ways to take their income before they got it, through long hours and penalties that would reduce them to a free labor force. You should have learned this in school. Truly sad.
@dlstb What forced welfare system. The last time I checked corporate welfare is voluntary, so is subsidy for farmers etc. Hey if you want to get rid of tax breaks for the wealthy, I am all for that. Why don't we start with eliminating tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas for slave wages? Then we can work on cancelling SSI for people that make a million dollars or more. Instead of making poor and middle class foot the bill.
@Ryooken First off, what I mean by forced welfare is not that people are forced to take it. People are forced to FUND it with their tax dollars that are stolen from them at the barrel of a gun. To top it off, everyone forgets that the when you make volunteerism or charity mandatory you demoralize the act of giving. This leads to the demoralization of our nation and people give less to charity and the needy because there is now some gov't program that they already pay for that people can use.
@dlstb Oh please you are grand standing again. You have to pay taxes. You aren't forced to pay welfare. The state and local government pays welfare in the form of subsidies to the working poor, the disabled etc., which is less than 2-5% of the overall income spent by state and local government. So cut the crap it's nonsense as usual.
@Ryooken Welfare is provided with tax dollars. I pay taxes and therefore I am forced to pay for welfare. Add to that the fact that I pay social security taxes that go toward paying current retirees and the rest is shuffled into the general fund by converting perfectly good assets to gov't bonds which I will have to repay through regular taxation and your 2-5% figure is now 15% of my annual income plus whatever they spend on welfare other than soc. sec. That's the facts.
@Ryooken And you want to talk about taxes. Did you know that the top 10% pay the vast majority of all taxes while the bottom 50% pay almost nothing? I get the feeling you are just pissed off that someone else knows how to leverage their own labor to turn a dime better than you. And SSI is a farce. SSI taxes are taken in and anything that is not used to pay current retirees is converted to a gov't bond (IOU) and the real money is put in the general treasury. We're in debt. Where is that cash?
@dlstb LOL! I see that math isn't your strong suit. Let's be clear if you analyze what the top 10% pay in taxes it runs from 0% to 18%. While the middle class pay up to 36% in taxes and the poor pay about 10%-15% in taxes. What you failed to mention is that the poor and the middle class not only pay more taxes than the rich but we pay a higher percentage of our overall income. So please stop the nonsense.
@Ryooken You idiot, you spout out those numbers and you don't even analyze them one bit. The reason why those numbers are skewed so much is because we charge less tax on income earned from capital gains. We do this because that money is not usually taken out and spent but reinvested into companies and our economy. The "rich" pay more in taxes as a dollar amount and pay a higher % of their hourly or salaried income and those are facts. The poor pay nothing or even get back more than they pay.
@dlstb Oh no, I do analyze the numbers. Let's be clear here. Congressional Budget Office study. Households earning less than $34,300 per year, meanwhile, actually pay a negative average federal income tax rate. Middle-class households that earned between $34,300 and $141,900 paid 50.5 percent of all federal tax revenues in 2007.
@dlstb (the most recent year analyzed), according to the CBO study released Thursday, and households that earned between $34,300 and $352,900 paid 66.7percent of all federal taxes.
Households in the top 1 percent for annual income (those earning more than $352,900) paid a healthy 28.1 percent of all federal taxes, but households in the lower income brackets paid relatively little.
So it's not me but you that didn't review the numbers correctly.
@Ryooken You are not making any sense. You just put up numbers saying that 1% of the population pays >25% of the taxes, then you say that anyone making between 34k and 353k pays 67% and your point is??? Do you want the 1% to pay all your taxes so you can live off someone else? What do you want? It apparenly is a fair taxation system because what we have now and what you apparenly want are neither one fair. You didn't even mention the relative number of taxpayers in each bracket!
@dlstb Yes, well don't quote economics to me if you don't understand the basic statistics. You claimed wrongfully that 1% of the population pays the majority of the taxes when in fact the 1% pay a little over 1/4 of the over all taxes. This means that they aren't paying their fair share. What this doesn't tell you is their tax rate. I pay 36% of my overall income. They pay less than I do in ratio they pay 0%-23% at most. That means they should be paying 36% like I do.
@Ryooken So 1% of the population paying 25% of the taxes is unfair? You are one of the gimmes and if you EVER try to pull this gimme crap in my neighborhood I will LITERALLY shoot you in the head. You have consistently advocated theft and the violation of the human right to property and I take that as a serious offense to my Liberty and freedom. Seriously, I will KILL anyone who tries to rob me whether they do it in the night or in broad daylight with the "law" behind them.
@dlstb When that 1% only pays less than 23% of their over all income and pays 0% of their income while I have to give up 36% of my income then yes, that is wrong. The rich should pay 36% of their income especially considering that they use more services than I do. That's the problem with you. You claim that people that can't afford it should pay more but those that can should pay less and you call me a gimme? Please wake up and smell what you're shoveling.
@dlstb What this also doesn't show you is how much help they get from the federal government in the form of subsidies, bailouts, cash enuities and the free useage of public services i.e. roads bridges major thorough fares to move their goods for free. In fact, 30 US companies paid no taxes from 200-2010. So please stop touting that the rich are some poor victim of welfare. They make more than everyone and pay less.
@Ryooken No business in the world pays ANY tax except for those run by the inept. Companies pass every tax that "they" have to pay onto their consumers. That is how the incidence of taxation works. Only individuals pay taxes, to assume anything else is a fallacy of great proportion.
@dlstb Supposition! You are justifying that 30 companies get away with paying 0% taxes when the middle class has to pay their fair share. You are also claiming that under the current system that is somehow right. It's mendacious and shows a Peter Pan mentality.
@Ryooken I'm done talking to you. If there is a hell, I know you are going to go there. also, let me just say that if I ever meet you in person, I'll do the world a favor. You contort every fact to make it read your way and when anyone points out your flaws you just call them ignorant and keep distorting reality. I'm seriously done with people like you and as much as I hate to say it, I'd welcome a genocide against people with your mentality of big gov't.
@dlstb You're done talking to me because you are ignorant. Here you can't have a civil discussion without cursing and swearing and threatening violence. If you met me in person, you would do nothing, so cut the threats out they are immature and silly.
@dlstb Like I said before you need to stop talking about what you think you know. Wealthy people don't work for a living they make money from other people that's called passive income. They make money through renting properties etc. In other words they get money from other people who do the actual work. Now as to social security which I pay into isn't a farce. What has happened is that SSI has had it's money removed to fund things like wars in Iraq.
@Ryooken Just look into one small fact of SSI. The SSI trust fund can only invest in gov't issued bonds and they have very minimal cash reserves. This means that when they take in excess SSI taxes that physical cash is paid into the general fund and a bond is issued in that amount. Because we are in debt and have been for a century there is NO money in the SSI trust fund and there never has been. It is just another pile of gov't debt that is accounted for as an asset but is really a liability.
@dlstb Oh I almost missed this part. Whether you think my job is worthless is your opinion what sickens me is that you disparage government service. It's very sad but it just goes to show that people like you want to complain about the government and get rid of government services until you need them then you complain they aren't around anymore.
@Ryooken People like me would complain about a lack of gov't services? That's a pretty big assumption to make of a Libertarian Marine Corps veteran who understands what powers our Constitutionally limited gov't is supposed to have. Like I said. I bet your just getting nervous because you work for the gov't in a worthless branch that produces nothing, and continually drains the wealth of the nation with higher than average pay and you see that people like me want to fire you to save the nation.
@dlstb Well then you have serious problems because you are rather ignorant since you and I both took an oath to uphold and defend the constitution. Yes, I would say you would complain especially without the services other agencies provide. Please if you actually understood what the limits are in our constitution then you wouldn't be trying to pull this crap on me because I know them too. No, I am not nervous at all just sicken because you have the gaul to disparage others service.
@Ryooken Unless your job involves you risking your life, then I'd call what you do a job and that would not make you a public servant but a gov't employee. There is a big difference there. If you really think that it is the within the scope of authority or responsibility for the gov't to steal from one citizen to give to another then you truly do not know what you have taken an oath to defend.
@dlstb I love the arrogance. LOL! Oh I see so a government employee doesn't serve the public right? That's only the military huh? That's the point they aren't stealing. I see so my money shouldn't go to your medical care right? Since the medical care for the military is free after all, that should be cut. Right?
@Ryooken Provide for the common defense. A legitimate use of taxpayer dollars as spelled out in the first paragraph of the Constitution of the United States. If you work in anything that could be considered welfare (SSI, foodstamps, medicaid, medicare, etc.) then you are participating in the fleecing of the US taxpayer and your actions are not approved of by myself and they are not legal under the Constitution. There is a big difference between promote and provide.
@dlstb Providing a common defense does not include medical insurance and free medical care for life! Providing a common defense also doesn't mean having a free standing army and military bases around the world either. So don't hypocritical.
@Ryooken Service members receive "free" medical care because it is their job to be able to defend the nation at a moments notice. Providing them with healthcare is necessary to ensure the combat effectiveness of our military.
Finally, something you and I MIGHT agreee on. We do not need to operate military bases worldwide to provide for this nations' common defense.
@dlstb Wrong! I wasn't talking about service men currently serving in the military. I am talking about after they get out and you knew that. Stop playing games and wasting my time. The average length of service across the board is between 4 and 14.5 years. So you are telling me that after they get out they no longer serve they get free medical care for life?
@Ryooken So you don't think that a person who is discharged from duty with a missing limb or lung from injury during service is deserving of medical care paid for by the people who sent him off to war in the first place? And also, how many veterans do you know who don't have such an illness who go to the VA for treatment? I don't know any and I'm a veteran.
@dlstb We aren't talking about what I believe. We are talking about your supposition that paying for other's welbeing is theft. I stated that if someone who has left military service is entitled to still have free medical care. I didn't state whether they were injured in battle or not. Actually I know several veterans that get free medical care from the VA. Again not the point and please answer the question and stop side stepping the issue.
@dlstb Oh yeah I forgot something. I am sorry I missed this. You claim that SSI is paid for in taxes. It's not. It's paid for by people like me who put into it, it's a paid system for people that when they get older and want to retire, they can. That's what SSI is for. You should know that before you go shoot off your mouth about SSI being paid for by tax money. By the way if you aren't still currently serving in the military when are you giving that free healthcare back? LOL!
@Ryooken you are a FUCKING DUMBASS! FICA is a tax and the original SSI recipients never paid in. So every year the treasury takes in FICA taxes and doles out SSI benefits and the remainder gets converted to bonds (gov't IOU's) and the actual cash is put into the general fund of the treasury. That means that all that "trust fund" money is gov't liabilities or debt which will have to be paid back through either increased FICA percentages, borrowing, or increased income taxation. DUMBASS
@dlstb I know what it's called and I know what it is. However, technically it's a benefit even though Supreme Court decision Flemming v. Nestor (1960) stated that SSI isn't a property right. Argue that since Social Security taxes are eventually returned to taxpayers, with interest, in the form of Social Security benefits, the regressiveness of the tax is effectively negated. So it's mandated savings program. Now let's talk about the people that you claim didn't put into it.
@dlstb While there are some that were not covered under SSI for many years, and most still put into it by the time of the late 1960s. Now this is offset by the number of people that did put into the system and died before they reached the minimum age of retirement. While Friedman may agrue that SSI discriminates against the poor, the actual facts don't play that out. For example, my grandmother is 93 receiving SSI and she is poor. My parents are middle class and they will never be rich.
@Ryooken SSI trust fund is gov't bonds, there is no real value and taxpayers will be on the hook for providing this benefit to seniors and disabled by 2018. All those SSI taxes went to pay for your social engineering programs and there is nothing left. The national debt clock should readily prove this fact.
@dlstb Current year expenses are paid from current Social Security tax revenues. When revenues exceed expenditures, as they have in most years, the excess is invested in special series, non-marketable U.S. Government bonds. You want to know where SSI went. It went into funding wars and the military industrial complex not to the poor. You need to grow up and stop trying to argue that your fellow Americans that you swore an oath to protect are responsible for this problem.
@Ryooken BTW, deregulation does not mean no regulation. The consumer has the power to regulate their own spending and by doing so they regulate which businesses will succeed and which will fail. I've taken my fair share of "gov't classes" and I think it is you who need to read up. Maybe start with the Hayek like I suggested then move on to Milton Friedman. Hell, if your too lazy to read what Friedman had to say then you can watch him here on YouTube. Just look up the freedom pen.
@dlstb Excuse me? When did I say it did? However, let's talk about specifics. GW Bush deregulated the safety standards and environmental protections that made the oil spill possible. The salmanilla outbreak was a result of deregulation. Let's get something straight regulation has been put into to place to protect people from being harmed by businesses that prey on them. I can give you a list of examples.
@dlstb That's the problem with you. We aren't just talking about your right to spend money. We are talking about our responsibility to ensure that whatever you buy use or do is safe. Oh I know who Friedman was and what he did. I also know what a mess Reagan left while he was in office. So if you want to tout Friedman, don't do it in my direction. I suggest you study Government Business and the American Economy by Langran and Schnitzer, and stop wasting my time with your ignorance.
@Ryooken The gov't has no responsibility the safety of a product that I willingly buy. That is how we eneded up with the car comanies failing in the first place. Lawsuits by Ralph Nader and regulations by the EPA that made cars bigger and lowered compression ratios while adding air pumps decreasing fuel mileage and safety with every additional regulation making the american auto manufacturing industry go from the envy of the world in 1970 to worthless POS by 1990. Thanks dumbass.
@dlstb Actually they do. It goes to protection of the general welfare of the public. To serve the public good and the public trust. What scares me is you actually represent this government when you put on that uniform. No what made cars go under was the EPA both state and federal required a lower emmissions in vehicles because it was causing environmental harm to both the natural environment and the people themselves. So in 1993 the auto industry decided to file lawsuit.
@Ryooken Tell me exactly how lowering "emissions" will help the environment anyone lives in if the result is lowering compression ratios and making cars heavier by adding smog pumps and lowering the fuel mileage? Why do you think that automanufacturers today are touting compression ratios of 10-13 when that was the standard in 1969? Your EPA screwed us and set us back in vehicle manufacturing 30 years or more. Thanks gov't screwup!
@dlstb LOL! What you don't know? Well let's not use the slang term and use it's real term called air injection. Air injection reduces the excess unburnt fuel from shooting out of the tail pipe thus causing heavy pollution. Oh I see you got this information from popular mechanics from 1975. LOL! adding air injection systems didn't make the car that heavy and in fact they were lighter than the cars of the 40s, 50s, and 60s.
@Ryooken Air injection only masks the problem caused by lowered compression which is lower burn rate and efficiency which was later alleviated by the 20 pound catalytic converter filled with a grid matrix coated in platinum. BTW, you can sell old cats for $100 a pop. So what do you think they cost to install. Also...
@dlstb Actually air injection doesn't mask the problem. In fact, the complete opposite is true it raises the burn rate to make the fuel burn out more efficiently than before. Since the catalytic converter wasn't created until the 1980s, you couldn't convert them. However, you seem to forget all the other features that modern cars carry nowadays. On board computers, sophisticated braking systems, airbags for safety, climate control systems etc. Not standard in 1957.
@Ryooken Dumbass, air injection injects air into the EXHAUST! The only fuel it burns is that that was not burned in the engine due to inefficiencies in the combustion process. The number one way to increase this efficiency is to increase compression ratios. Incidentally, it was smog regulations limiting NO2 and other products of combustion that required automakers to lower compression ratios necessitating the use of ANY system to burn unspent fuel.
That guy is right.
EarthBeautifull 3 months ago
Obama DOES look like a monkey. What is wrong with these morons who are campaigning against a truth we can all see for ourselves?
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RevolutionNewsUS 4 months ago
Boring..... Liberals had Monkey images for Bush.... Political speech is not racism liberal morons.
leeuniverse 4 months ago
Freedom of speech, just like pussy liberals who call for the death of Bush
michaelf1900 4 months ago
People are just too bored in today's world.
MegaWYU 6 months ago
that dude's most likely dead by now..r.i.p. old timer...
agent1up 6 months ago
Listen here you skin shedding fucker.were in a new age were we get along,i have alot of white friends that will beat your ass for this,and your an old man too.that support your getting from them followers,,they need to reserch history..if you notice certian ape an moneys,baboons,ect families,there skin is light coloered,so that monkey curious george really look at what your holding.we came from the same sperm..who the fuck are you? Becareful out here,and posting on youtube,,we got cell phones.
bigmotionpic 7 months ago
That was in Johnstown, PA. I seen the guy hanging out with the Obama supporters most of the day.
JawsJaws 7 months ago
in all fairness obama has monkeyd with our country in a bad way.
utubecenseorstruth 7 months ago
go figure. .....a fat old white american
Boog2200 7 months ago
Where can I get one of those? They are novelties now and are gonna be worth alot of money years from now on Ebay.
8av8today 8 months ago
obama bin laden is scum! Destroy him! Someone please !
japierce15 10 months ago
@japierce15 This isn't Nazi Germany you fascist scum. Keep your racist views to yourself.
aksstar 9 months ago
@aksstar Typical leftist! Immediately jump to yelling out RACIST ! BIGOT ! HOMOPHOBE ! How was that racist or facist?? And how are the two terms even related!? They are not. And who cares if it was racist/facist...does it affect you. I hate democrats first and foremost ;-)
japierce15 9 months ago
@japierce15 all conservatives are a bunch of racists. have u seen this video? dumb ass.
aksstar 9 months ago
@aksstar yea and i've seen just as many democrat "racists". every1 is racist - youre just so PC that the thought of being called a name like racist sends you whimpering with your tail between your legs into the corner. boohoo - what are you afraid of? They can't hurt you. Seen this commercial for Oprah (yea like id watch that) where these ppl come back to her show after 25 yrs and lament and moan on tv looking for other peoples approval now, all b/c they were "racists" back then. Bull crap!
japierce15 9 months ago
@japierce15 You're living in denial. There was institutionalized racism and discrimination in this country. Racism itself is thriving. It's just that government isn't there to enforce those Jim Crow laws anymore. Here is how I see it. Back in the 40s and 60s democrats were the racists now it's the republicans. The southern strategy made sure you controlled the south and would control the north i.e. 2011. I don't get offended. I just call out stupidity wherever I see it. Guy in the video = racist
aksstar 9 months ago
@japierce15 and quit defending douchebags like this guy.
aksstar 9 months ago
obama is a fraud
gerry14miami 10 months ago
It is very typical of people who lack education to make such stupid remarks. When people criticize others by racial slurs and stereotypes, it shows the lack of education that they so desperately need. I have no doubt in my mind that Obama is not upset by the stupidity that is demonstrated. Here is what you all need to do: Get an education and demonstrate some maturity. While you are here talking about Obama, he has a nice degree from Harvard hanging on the wall in his office :D HAHAHAHA
MsPrince4life 10 months ago
is it racist or just not politcaly correct give me a fucking break
HELLNOBAMA2012 10 months ago
What a fucking racist!!
sarkelcpa 11 months ago
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Hehheh that ion this world theres only few white asses that has nuts to say nigger to someone face to face when they are alone! Im half Afro-American and i live in Finland. In here the nazis are pussys. The biggest problem here is the finlands NBK (Natural Born Killers) They aint joking and they are serious people
halloweenguy21 1 year ago
Hehheh that ion this world theres only few white asses that has nuts to say nigger to someone face to face when they are alone! Im half Afro-American and i live in Finland. In here the nazis are pussys. The biggest problem here is the finlands NBK (Natural Born Killers) They aint joking and they are serious people!
halloweenguy21 1 year ago
i like obama but since he married an African American i no longer like him
1166925 1 year ago
good americans my ass
mnm102killer 1 year ago
watch?v=sJ_7mEWoWI8&feature=fvw here's the video of him giving the monkey away. Weird that he was so proud of it in this video, but later tries to hide it.
ivyshoots 1 year ago
HOW IS THAT RACIST? ANYONE WHO WAS BORN IN INDONESIA OR KENYA IS A MONKEY
msnbc1000 1 year ago
@msnbc1000 ....Is there any question that this man is now a full-fledged tea partier?
flipgood89 1 year ago
@msnbc1000 Well that is how you think and here in Europe we think that Americans are fat and dumb!
agent2ooo 1 year ago
Small Dicks can drive a man to HELL!
diptidue 1 year ago
In-breeders, you'll always come in last. You’re too ignorant to be a threat to anyone. Your time is up. Is that the best you can do, an adult monkey playing with a monkey doll? C'mon Man! Barack Obama is more intelligent than any off you will ever be, that’s the real reason you’re afraid. So cease with the monkey jokes, its 2010 not 1810. Go screw some more relatives.
huglo1808 1 year ago 3
@huglo1808 and the pro-Obama group can only think well enough to come up with "go screw some more relatives"? Wow, you all really are the inteligentisia aren't you.
How about this? We know that the majority of the executive branch of this nations' gov't and the President in particular (because he is the head executive) are breaching the Constitution of the United States by stealing money from the taxpayer to pay off any lobbying group that pays. And it has been happening for centuries.
dlstb 3 months ago
White trash cunt. Nice glasses, faggot. (I could do this all day).
explizidace 1 year ago
id buy that Monkey from him it does resemble obama
TheFinishlinesports 1 year ago
Thank God the Republicans weren't elected into office. Obama 2012
KingNative1 1 year ago
because obama is already pres i still watch out for these people now they racist dangerous and can be the one to destroyed this country i just cant understand southerns people and black country folks get right in the same line with them cause they no no better thats why i feel all americans in the south need to come to new york to see how everybody walk talk and get along together.i can tell a red nick when they come to manhattan they look scared 9saying 0 while i cant believe all these people
supercunderlover 1 year ago
@supercunderlover Black people poor into stone Mountain Park in Georgia and spend endless money....yet the park has 3 conferderate flags flying at the base and other confederate symbols. I just walk up and down the moutain...not a candy bar in the snack shop...
HighPacheChief 1 year ago
American children don't seem to have a bright future ahead of them....
Tetzukai 1 year ago
fucking racist !!!
Nordin886 1 year ago
@Nordin886 Not only that, HE INSULTED MONKEYS EVERYWHERE!!!!. Where is the compassion for poor animals. They can't help it if their ears are as big as buttcrack's!!!
gbait3 1 year ago
Why didn't they show the tea party group? Looks like a bunch of AFL/CIO "workers" standing in line to vote a few times. And make a fake video. Not an American Flag, or Don't tread on me flag to be seen, just some union slug faking a video. Good work, you could get a job at MSCBC, CBS, NBC, or PBS.
unionrodngun 1 year ago
@unionrodngun Judging from this I'm gonna assume you think Fox News is a reliable news source. #LOL What you need to do is go get yourself some basic critical thinking skills. I heard they're cheap at walmart because you really need it if you think Fox News is a reliable news source.
ivan134 1 year ago
we all want what's best for OURSELVES and our loved ones.....my folks were immigrants who supported Clinton for Amnesty when we were illegals, but now we're documented, my folks r saying "fuck the illegals"...im like WHAT?!?!?!
Plz ppl, don't be hypocrits, thats the worst fuking shit ever
lakid87 1 year ago 2
That old man's probably gonna die soon anyway. He shouldn't worry about who's the president, rather just counting on how many hours he has left of life.
SoCalGuy20 1 year ago
cuz he couldn't find a teddy bear
snowonweb 1 year ago
Nazi? I think you need a history lesson, a grammar class, a spelling class, and then MAYBE I might give you back your speaking privileges.
To express disdain unintelligently is humerus.
BreakerByte 1 year ago
@BreakerByte
Did you catch that "humerus" reference? Hint : its a bone.
BreakerByte 1 year ago
@BreakerByte
No it's not, it's humorous.
Do I revoke your privileges now?
Dunny5000 1 year ago
WOW...that's just a sick fuck, these guys are nazi scums themselves
Icedude91 1 year ago
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entertainmentvalues2 1 year ago
There are racists in both parties...I wonder if "homie" knows that the Republican Party freed the slaves that's if he is a Repub...that's all the ammunition the Dems need to portray the Tea Party Movement as a bunch of Right Wing Racists...when in fact their party is the racist party..."homie "needs to ditch the doll and stop misrepresenting!!!!
TheTexasViper 1 year ago
This is one racist loser stewing in his own hateful monkey mind projection. Anyone who is this racist is not an American cuz America is noblehearted diversity not weakhearted idiocy like this shit for brains dumbass.
Starwheel6 2 years ago
@Starwheel6 He is a racist for calling Obama a monkey? Specifically Curious George? Maybe a majority of the election was won off of racism?
IflyinGa 1 year ago
@IflyinGa A flying cliche of white trash mental problems from Georgia-who would have guessed?
Starwheel6 1 year ago
@Starwheel6 Who said I was white? I could be Asian.
I could not be.
And just because I am from Georgia means nothing.
You are an artiest, you think you know everything when you clearly don't.
I can make assumptions too.
IflyinGa 1 year ago
too bad this melanin-depraved, bible-thumping sack of inbred shit can't do anything! Obama is the President! hahaahahha.
Ooga001 2 years ago
Bush was portrayed as a monkey? What's the problem? Oh wait, white people have to go out of their way to keep from offending blacks. However, we don't get the same curtisy from them. Check out the F.B.I. crime stats for more info on how blacks VIOLATE us in epic proportions!!
marine7977 2 years ago
@marine7977
Whites violated blacks a long time ago. We've got the history books on that VIOLENT behavior. Let me give you some people who has endured such violence: Martin Luther King Jr., Harriet Tubman, Emmet Till, Nat Turner, Federick Douglas, and the list goes on and on. All these people wanted was freedom, but no, they had to deal with Jim Crow Laws, and segregation, slavery. Go check out those VIOLENT epic proportions!!!!
MsPrince4life 10 months ago
ppl need to stop blowing obama
yunggun142 2 years ago
lmao
yunggun142 2 years ago
You can go back to sleep now you senile old cunt.
SkipyOnline 2 years ago
I love racism...I really do. Who doesn't prefer their own tribe over others? Call me a racist, and i'll wear it like a medal!
MrSinister99 2 years ago
get obama down from presidenti fucking muslim bastard
lebnen143 2 years ago
These comments suck!
EvilLordBanana 2 years ago
Nothing wrong with this.
He is a monkey.
Why is he ashamed of it?
zjb2000 2 years ago
check out " michelle obama DISTURBING " on youtube
TheJevoski 2 years ago
what's racist about this? People called Bush a monkey and had Bush monkey t-shirts
stupid liberals, calling someone a monkey is not racist it's just a way to say you're unintelligent
itsnobody 2 years ago
@itsnobody i see your point about bush being stupid like a monkey but i dont quite see the connection with obama...like him or not, there is nothing stupid about obama...
MississippiBlueDog 2 years ago
You're missing the intended racism of that guy with the creepy laugh. Traditionally, blacks had been characterized as sub-human, even monkey like. This man obviously is playing to that characterization, which really highlights the undertoned racism in this entire "movement."
theuber1337 2 years ago
thats wrong but obama sucks
lizandro89 2 years ago
Did the media ever do any homework and find out the name of this jackball?
beaviselectron 2 years ago
that old feller in the video is right
rebeljebb 2 years ago
racism is as american as apple pie. didn't you hear that guy cackling with disdain? conservative repubs and the gop don't care about america. they only care about power. it should be obvious to all by now.
abovefilms 2 years ago 14
So the Dem's don't care about power? You are a moron if you think they do not. Seem's to me government is trying to get more and more power over the last 11 month's!
goladen 2 years ago
wow. you sound like an idiot to not know that dems want power, but not at the expense of american's civil liberties. repubs always work to limit personal freedoms, yet scream if confronted with similar legislation limiting their reach.
abovefilms 2 years ago
@abovefilms racism existed way before united states did
snowonweb 1 year ago
@abovefilms You are right. Simple as that...
HighPacheChief 1 year ago
...and folks still think this seller's market is going to end on 2012? give me a break, better yet, i blow job. fyi: the only thing w's cousin changed, was the perception of staying the course. none of this crap started last november. nor did it begin 8 years ago. this precious country has been outsourced for quite some time now.
AvEryBadApPLe 2 years ago
fuck u ur just a typical old fucking capilistic bastard who wants to run the u.s to the ground like your other republicans...thank god u only have a few years left looking at your age cause you r the ones who fucked up the country and lost the chance for the younger generations to get anywhere...great job.
williamswitzer 2 years ago
his a 'stupid'..dont even bother to entertain this hand job..he was in the other video, looking like a child trying to hide his little doll because he thought a member of the security were filming him..cowards are as cowards do...or something:-)
leesawford 2 years ago
It's ok , this guy was pissed on election night. Obama got the last laugh and the rest of America
cymandekj 2 years ago 12
@cymandekj eh..the rest of america isnt laughing....they are unemployed.
biasedreporting 1 year ago
@cymandekj obama got the last laugh on all you morons that supported him..............i bet there will never be another black pres he has fucked up soooooooooo soooo badly. just proved the stereotypes were right
kirkleyrobert 1 year ago
@cymandekj yeah everyone's laughing especially at all of the People that Voted for Obama and supported him and his Lip Service ..Just Look at the Horrible job hes doing i don't think he Has told the truth or did One thing he said he was going to do ...Ron Paul was the Best and Most Honest Candidate ...
DanchElmore 1 year ago
@cymandekj And now obamas getting the last laugh at your dumbasses!
xDarkside101x 11 months ago
@cymandekj "Obama got the last laugh and the rest of America" - I take it your lack of ability to speak English is significant of your lack of cold critical thinking and explains why you don't understand that the rest of America isn't having the "last laugh". The only people laughing are the bankers on Wall St to whom Soetoro has given $700,000,000,000. They are laughing all the way inside their banks while outside black and white racists boo and cheer their respective heroes and villians
guydecervens 11 months ago
@cymandekj
So true! People are just mad because your comment is top notch ; )
MsPrince4life 10 months ago
@cymandekj Obama won because hes black and because he is doing money handouts. Get your head out of your ass.
bigbob6556 10 months ago
@bigbob6556 And the previous 43 Presidents won because they were white and that can be actually proven. What's your point fuckface?
aksstar 9 months ago
@aksstar Obama is a dumbass, won because hes black, and has done nothing for this country except increase unemployment and spend more money then any US president before him? I think that sums it all up.
bigbob6556 9 months ago 3
@bigbob6556 Interesting, so Obama has done nothing right?
Well he got Bin Laden, he made sure that 14 million Americans will have adequate health insurance, he is bringing out troops home, he saved the auto industry, and he is only in his first term. Now if you want to blame someone for our problems then I suggest you start with the nearest republican that said they would do nothing if healthcare passes.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken #1, he DID NOT get Osama, our troops that risked their lives for. In fact, Obama was against the entire middle east invasion yet he claims HE GOT HIM? #2 Obamas healthcare plan is unconstitutional and will not pass. #3 HE IS NOT bringing troops home you stupid prick, he is sending them all to afghanistan. So why dont you learn your facts, you dipshit incompetent liberal shithead.
bigbob6556 3 months ago
@bigbob6556 Actually you again are wrong. Obama was against going to war with Iraq because they didn't attack us. He had no problem going to Afganistan. He did authorize the taking out of Osama. This is the problem, you don't know what you're talking about right now there are 90,000 troops in Afganistan. Although he is going to have an increased naval fleet in the Persian gulf, he isn't surging anymore troops into Afganistan.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken Actually, Obama already did send a surge of troops to Afghanistan. Also, he ordered the summary execution of an American citizen who was undoubtedly a terrorist but a citizen nonetheless. He is also for increasing taxes to fund unconstitutional spending and debt that is enslaving my generation to the debts of the last century of generations. There is a mountain of evidence that convinces me that Obama and 99% of our elected leaders are enemies of our Constitution and our Liberty.
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb Sorry to burst your bubble there kiddo, but hes sending 40,000 troops to Afghanistan from Iraq.
bigbob6556 3 months ago
@bigbob6556 Hey, you should probably read a little before you write. I'm pretty sure I'm on your side saying that Obama is surging troops and I was pointing out that he has already done a troop surge.
In summary...
2008-----30,100 troops
2009-----50,700 troops
2010-2012------60,500 troops
The surge already happened and soon we'll have 100k troops in Afghanistan.
And don't call an Iraq war veteran kiddo you fatass.
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb I have known this...my point is that he is lying, saying hes pulling all these troops out of Iraq. Yet hes sending 40,000 more to Afghanistan.
bigbob6556 3 months ago
@dlstb Show me where he promoted summary executions. Yes, Obama did send surge troops to Afganistan because until new intel arrived Osama was thought to still be in Afganistan. I am sorry but Obama hasn't increase taxes once in his term of office. Any spending he did was to shore up the economy, and protect the American people's health. If you want to blame someone for the debt then you need to deal with his predicessor.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken You retards always want to keep pointing out problems from the past like we can pull a doc. Brown and go back and fix the fact that G. Bush (both) was a rino and supporter of a global gov't.
The reality is that Obama and EVERY member of Congress that has ever voted to spend tax dollars in a manner inconsistent with the Constitution is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such. It doesn't matter if you and he think that spending other peoples' money is right or okay.
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb You seem to be under some misconceptions. The reason we are in debt right now is because Obama is fixing GW Bush's mess. Government couldn't sit on their hands and do nothing and let the country fall. As for whether i think that spending other people's money is right or not, let me point out something to you. First it's not just your tax money but mine too. So stop whining about spending. We allowed big business to destroy the economy and Obama is trying to fix it.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken You are the one under misconceptions. It is gov't regulation that created the weak automarket by not allowing for real competition. Also, it is immoral for gov't to prop up any industry no matter how big. All that leads to is subversion of the corrective powers of the market system. Of course, we haven't had true capitalism in this nation for more than a century because idiots like you cannot accept the fact that sometimes bad businesses have to fail.
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb You know what you need to do is stop promoting this crap. GW Bush deregulated everything in his power and since I work for the federal government I should know. I suggest you get a book called Government and Business. I also suggest you take a class on it so you can learn something about how government supports and regulates business to promote prosperity in the country and prevent usery of the poplace.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken "Usery of the poplace" (sic) What do you call the gov't robbing the taxpayers at the point of a gun and the risk of enslavement if they don't comply all for the sake of bailing out crooked businessmen and providing forced welfare systems that perpeuate a cycle of gov't reliance? I'd call that usery but what do I know? I'm just a Marine Corps veteran. So what was that about you working for the fed? Maybe you are just trying to convince people to not fire you from a worthless job.
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb Oh please spare me the government is robbing us. They aren't. What the government does is tax us. Putting that money into a community fund to pay for the services we cannot afford individually. For example, road construction. First they didn't bailout crooked businessmen by choice. They bailed out these businesses so the eocnomy wouldn't crazy keeping us away from a second depression. While I may not like this, I understand why they did it.
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Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken Really? They gov't spends money bailing out businesses so we don't go through a depression? And how has that worked out for you? We are up to our eyeballs in debt being backed by the labor of future generations and we are still seeing soaring unemployment, rampant inflation, and threatened by increased taxation and further exploitation of the American taxpayer. BTW, ANY gov't debt is tantamount to generational theft and the enslavement of future generations. I wish it was just taxes.
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb LOL! Well since we didn't go through a depression, the auto industry is solvent now and has paid the federal government back and we are slowly recovering. You name a time when the US government hasn't been in debt? I can't. I can name a time when we had a balanced budget but we have been debt for a long time.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken Past precedent of immoral, illegal, and irreprehensible behavior is no excuse for continuing that behavior. That'd be the same argument that the pro-slavery movement would put up in the 1800's. Also, the US gov't didn't always operate on debt and direct taxation. It used to operate off of user fees and taxes collected off the movement of good through ports owned by the gov't. And please let me know when we had a balanced budget. IE, the last time our year over year debt increase was 0.
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb Oh please spare me the comparison. I find it trite especially considering that I am African American. You are claiming that we should pay taxes to help the working poor have a decent living and not forced into abject slavery while you claim that paying legitimate taxes is the same argument slavers used to promote slavery. I don't have boots that high to walk across the bs your claiming.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken What does your being black matter? (BTW, you are not african American unless you live in Africa then moved here, you are an American who happens to be black. You'd do better using this desctiption of yourself unless you enjoy continued racism in America.) It is not the responsibility of the US gov't to ensure that every citizen makes a certain wage or maintains a certain lifestyle. Therefore, any tax used to fund such is merely theft and becuase it is legal it is tantamount to slavery
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb I am not black I am African American like I said before. You seem to forget what that means. Let me explain since you obviously have no education to speak of. People descended from Africa either directly or indirectly are called African American. Actually the 1938 Fair Labor Standards Act would disagree with you. It was another bid by the US government to prevent slavery through economics by ensuring that people made a living wage.
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Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken You really need to look up Milton Friedman again because I think you've either forgotten or never saw his piece on minimum wages. Basically, the minimum wage was the most anti-black law ever written because it closed to job market to uneducated men and women who were at that time typically black. This disallowed black people from having the ability to work and learn the job at the same time which is KEY to gaining more bargaining power over your labor.
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb I already know what Friedman says. What you need to do is look up the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 and it's history to fully understand economic slavery. Read the pre-amble as to why it is necessary. You also seem to have forgotten that they used to pay blacks less while the white people they paid more while they were doing the same job. The minimum wage changed some of that even though it goes on today.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@dlstb By doing so the US government prevented slavery. If not for the minimum wage the current economic system would collapse. As this country was built on free labor in the past people of means wanted to keep slavery going so they would not always pay their employees or they would find ways to take their income before they got it, through long hours and penalties that would reduce them to a free labor force. You should have learned this in school. Truly sad.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@dlstb What forced welfare system. The last time I checked corporate welfare is voluntary, so is subsidy for farmers etc. Hey if you want to get rid of tax breaks for the wealthy, I am all for that. Why don't we start with eliminating tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas for slave wages? Then we can work on cancelling SSI for people that make a million dollars or more. Instead of making poor and middle class foot the bill.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken First off, what I mean by forced welfare is not that people are forced to take it. People are forced to FUND it with their tax dollars that are stolen from them at the barrel of a gun. To top it off, everyone forgets that the when you make volunteerism or charity mandatory you demoralize the act of giving. This leads to the demoralization of our nation and people give less to charity and the needy because there is now some gov't program that they already pay for that people can use.
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb Oh please you are grand standing again. You have to pay taxes. You aren't forced to pay welfare. The state and local government pays welfare in the form of subsidies to the working poor, the disabled etc., which is less than 2-5% of the overall income spent by state and local government. So cut the crap it's nonsense as usual.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken Welfare is provided with tax dollars. I pay taxes and therefore I am forced to pay for welfare. Add to that the fact that I pay social security taxes that go toward paying current retirees and the rest is shuffled into the general fund by converting perfectly good assets to gov't bonds which I will have to repay through regular taxation and your 2-5% figure is now 15% of my annual income plus whatever they spend on welfare other than soc. sec. That's the facts.
dlstb 3 months ago
@Ryooken And you want to talk about taxes. Did you know that the top 10% pay the vast majority of all taxes while the bottom 50% pay almost nothing? I get the feeling you are just pissed off that someone else knows how to leverage their own labor to turn a dime better than you. And SSI is a farce. SSI taxes are taken in and anything that is not used to pay current retirees is converted to a gov't bond (IOU) and the real money is put in the general treasury. We're in debt. Where is that cash?
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb LOL! I see that math isn't your strong suit. Let's be clear if you analyze what the top 10% pay in taxes it runs from 0% to 18%. While the middle class pay up to 36% in taxes and the poor pay about 10%-15% in taxes. What you failed to mention is that the poor and the middle class not only pay more taxes than the rich but we pay a higher percentage of our overall income. So please stop the nonsense.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken You idiot, you spout out those numbers and you don't even analyze them one bit. The reason why those numbers are skewed so much is because we charge less tax on income earned from capital gains. We do this because that money is not usually taken out and spent but reinvested into companies and our economy. The "rich" pay more in taxes as a dollar amount and pay a higher % of their hourly or salaried income and those are facts. The poor pay nothing or even get back more than they pay.
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb Oh no, I do analyze the numbers. Let's be clear here. Congressional Budget Office study. Households earning less than $34,300 per year, meanwhile, actually pay a negative average federal income tax rate. Middle-class households that earned between $34,300 and $141,900 paid 50.5 percent of all federal tax revenues in 2007.
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Ryooken 3 months ago
@dlstb (the most recent year analyzed), according to the CBO study released Thursday, and households that earned between $34,300 and $352,900 paid 66.7percent of all federal taxes.
Households in the top 1 percent for annual income (those earning more than $352,900) paid a healthy 28.1 percent of all federal taxes, but households in the lower income brackets paid relatively little.
So it's not me but you that didn't review the numbers correctly.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken You are not making any sense. You just put up numbers saying that 1% of the population pays >25% of the taxes, then you say that anyone making between 34k and 353k pays 67% and your point is??? Do you want the 1% to pay all your taxes so you can live off someone else? What do you want? It apparenly is a fair taxation system because what we have now and what you apparenly want are neither one fair. You didn't even mention the relative number of taxpayers in each bracket!
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb Yes, well don't quote economics to me if you don't understand the basic statistics. You claimed wrongfully that 1% of the population pays the majority of the taxes when in fact the 1% pay a little over 1/4 of the over all taxes. This means that they aren't paying their fair share. What this doesn't tell you is their tax rate. I pay 36% of my overall income. They pay less than I do in ratio they pay 0%-23% at most. That means they should be paying 36% like I do.
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Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken So 1% of the population paying 25% of the taxes is unfair? You are one of the gimmes and if you EVER try to pull this gimme crap in my neighborhood I will LITERALLY shoot you in the head. You have consistently advocated theft and the violation of the human right to property and I take that as a serious offense to my Liberty and freedom. Seriously, I will KILL anyone who tries to rob me whether they do it in the night or in broad daylight with the "law" behind them.
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb When that 1% only pays less than 23% of their over all income and pays 0% of their income while I have to give up 36% of my income then yes, that is wrong. The rich should pay 36% of their income especially considering that they use more services than I do. That's the problem with you. You claim that people that can't afford it should pay more but those that can should pay less and you call me a gimme? Please wake up and smell what you're shoveling.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@dlstb What this also doesn't show you is how much help they get from the federal government in the form of subsidies, bailouts, cash enuities and the free useage of public services i.e. roads bridges major thorough fares to move their goods for free. In fact, 30 US companies paid no taxes from 200-2010. So please stop touting that the rich are some poor victim of welfare. They make more than everyone and pay less.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken Sorry typo. 30 US companies paid no taxes from 2008-2010.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken No business in the world pays ANY tax except for those run by the inept. Companies pass every tax that "they" have to pay onto their consumers. That is how the incidence of taxation works. Only individuals pay taxes, to assume anything else is a fallacy of great proportion.
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb Supposition! You are justifying that 30 companies get away with paying 0% taxes when the middle class has to pay their fair share. You are also claiming that under the current system that is somehow right. It's mendacious and shows a Peter Pan mentality.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken I'm done talking to you. If there is a hell, I know you are going to go there. also, let me just say that if I ever meet you in person, I'll do the world a favor. You contort every fact to make it read your way and when anyone points out your flaws you just call them ignorant and keep distorting reality. I'm seriously done with people like you and as much as I hate to say it, I'd welcome a genocide against people with your mentality of big gov't.
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb You're done talking to me because you are ignorant. Here you can't have a civil discussion without cursing and swearing and threatening violence. If you met me in person, you would do nothing, so cut the threats out they are immature and silly.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@dlstb Like I said before you need to stop talking about what you think you know. Wealthy people don't work for a living they make money from other people that's called passive income. They make money through renting properties etc. In other words they get money from other people who do the actual work. Now as to social security which I pay into isn't a farce. What has happened is that SSI has had it's money removed to fund things like wars in Iraq.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken Just look into one small fact of SSI. The SSI trust fund can only invest in gov't issued bonds and they have very minimal cash reserves. This means that when they take in excess SSI taxes that physical cash is paid into the general fund and a bond is issued in that amount. Because we are in debt and have been for a century there is NO money in the SSI trust fund and there never has been. It is just another pile of gov't debt that is accounted for as an asset but is really a liability.
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb Oh I almost missed this part. Whether you think my job is worthless is your opinion what sickens me is that you disparage government service. It's very sad but it just goes to show that people like you want to complain about the government and get rid of government services until you need them then you complain they aren't around anymore.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken People like me would complain about a lack of gov't services? That's a pretty big assumption to make of a Libertarian Marine Corps veteran who understands what powers our Constitutionally limited gov't is supposed to have. Like I said. I bet your just getting nervous because you work for the gov't in a worthless branch that produces nothing, and continually drains the wealth of the nation with higher than average pay and you see that people like me want to fire you to save the nation.
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb Well then you have serious problems because you are rather ignorant since you and I both took an oath to uphold and defend the constitution. Yes, I would say you would complain especially without the services other agencies provide. Please if you actually understood what the limits are in our constitution then you wouldn't be trying to pull this crap on me because I know them too. No, I am not nervous at all just sicken because you have the gaul to disparage others service.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken Unless your job involves you risking your life, then I'd call what you do a job and that would not make you a public servant but a gov't employee. There is a big difference there. If you really think that it is the within the scope of authority or responsibility for the gov't to steal from one citizen to give to another then you truly do not know what you have taken an oath to defend.
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb I love the arrogance. LOL! Oh I see so a government employee doesn't serve the public right? That's only the military huh? That's the point they aren't stealing. I see so my money shouldn't go to your medical care right? Since the medical care for the military is free after all, that should be cut. Right?
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken Provide for the common defense. A legitimate use of taxpayer dollars as spelled out in the first paragraph of the Constitution of the United States. If you work in anything that could be considered welfare (SSI, foodstamps, medicaid, medicare, etc.) then you are participating in the fleecing of the US taxpayer and your actions are not approved of by myself and they are not legal under the Constitution. There is a big difference between promote and provide.
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb Providing a common defense does not include medical insurance and free medical care for life! Providing a common defense also doesn't mean having a free standing army and military bases around the world either. So don't hypocritical.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken Service members receive "free" medical care because it is their job to be able to defend the nation at a moments notice. Providing them with healthcare is necessary to ensure the combat effectiveness of our military.
Finally, something you and I MIGHT agreee on. We do not need to operate military bases worldwide to provide for this nations' common defense.
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb Wrong! I wasn't talking about service men currently serving in the military. I am talking about after they get out and you knew that. Stop playing games and wasting my time. The average length of service across the board is between 4 and 14.5 years. So you are telling me that after they get out they no longer serve they get free medical care for life?
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken So you don't think that a person who is discharged from duty with a missing limb or lung from injury during service is deserving of medical care paid for by the people who sent him off to war in the first place? And also, how many veterans do you know who don't have such an illness who go to the VA for treatment? I don't know any and I'm a veteran.
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb We aren't talking about what I believe. We are talking about your supposition that paying for other's welbeing is theft. I stated that if someone who has left military service is entitled to still have free medical care. I didn't state whether they were injured in battle or not. Actually I know several veterans that get free medical care from the VA. Again not the point and please answer the question and stop side stepping the issue.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@dlstb Oh yeah I forgot something. I am sorry I missed this. You claim that SSI is paid for in taxes. It's not. It's paid for by people like me who put into it, it's a paid system for people that when they get older and want to retire, they can. That's what SSI is for. You should know that before you go shoot off your mouth about SSI being paid for by tax money. By the way if you aren't still currently serving in the military when are you giving that free healthcare back? LOL!
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken you are a FUCKING DUMBASS! FICA is a tax and the original SSI recipients never paid in. So every year the treasury takes in FICA taxes and doles out SSI benefits and the remainder gets converted to bonds (gov't IOU's) and the actual cash is put into the general fund of the treasury. That means that all that "trust fund" money is gov't liabilities or debt which will have to be paid back through either increased FICA percentages, borrowing, or increased income taxation. DUMBASS
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb I know what it's called and I know what it is. However, technically it's a benefit even though Supreme Court decision Flemming v. Nestor (1960) stated that SSI isn't a property right. Argue that since Social Security taxes are eventually returned to taxpayers, with interest, in the form of Social Security benefits, the regressiveness of the tax is effectively negated. So it's mandated savings program. Now let's talk about the people that you claim didn't put into it.
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Ryooken 3 months ago
@dlstb While there are some that were not covered under SSI for many years, and most still put into it by the time of the late 1960s. Now this is offset by the number of people that did put into the system and died before they reached the minimum age of retirement. While Friedman may agrue that SSI discriminates against the poor, the actual facts don't play that out. For example, my grandmother is 93 receiving SSI and she is poor. My parents are middle class and they will never be rich.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken SSI trust fund is gov't bonds, there is no real value and taxpayers will be on the hook for providing this benefit to seniors and disabled by 2018. All those SSI taxes went to pay for your social engineering programs and there is nothing left. The national debt clock should readily prove this fact.
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb Current year expenses are paid from current Social Security tax revenues. When revenues exceed expenditures, as they have in most years, the excess is invested in special series, non-marketable U.S. Government bonds. You want to know where SSI went. It went into funding wars and the military industrial complex not to the poor. You need to grow up and stop trying to argue that your fellow Americans that you swore an oath to protect are responsible for this problem.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken BTW, deregulation does not mean no regulation. The consumer has the power to regulate their own spending and by doing so they regulate which businesses will succeed and which will fail. I've taken my fair share of "gov't classes" and I think it is you who need to read up. Maybe start with the Hayek like I suggested then move on to Milton Friedman. Hell, if your too lazy to read what Friedman had to say then you can watch him here on YouTube. Just look up the freedom pen.
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb Excuse me? When did I say it did? However, let's talk about specifics. GW Bush deregulated the safety standards and environmental protections that made the oil spill possible. The salmanilla outbreak was a result of deregulation. Let's get something straight regulation has been put into to place to protect people from being harmed by businesses that prey on them. I can give you a list of examples.
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Ryooken 3 months ago
@dlstb That's the problem with you. We aren't just talking about your right to spend money. We are talking about our responsibility to ensure that whatever you buy use or do is safe. Oh I know who Friedman was and what he did. I also know what a mess Reagan left while he was in office. So if you want to tout Friedman, don't do it in my direction. I suggest you study Government Business and the American Economy by Langran and Schnitzer, and stop wasting my time with your ignorance.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken The gov't has no responsibility the safety of a product that I willingly buy. That is how we eneded up with the car comanies failing in the first place. Lawsuits by Ralph Nader and regulations by the EPA that made cars bigger and lowered compression ratios while adding air pumps decreasing fuel mileage and safety with every additional regulation making the american auto manufacturing industry go from the envy of the world in 1970 to worthless POS by 1990. Thanks dumbass.
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb Actually they do. It goes to protection of the general welfare of the public. To serve the public good and the public trust. What scares me is you actually represent this government when you put on that uniform. No what made cars go under was the EPA both state and federal required a lower emmissions in vehicles because it was causing environmental harm to both the natural environment and the people themselves. So in 1993 the auto industry decided to file lawsuit.
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Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken Tell me exactly how lowering "emissions" will help the environment anyone lives in if the result is lowering compression ratios and making cars heavier by adding smog pumps and lowering the fuel mileage? Why do you think that automanufacturers today are touting compression ratios of 10-13 when that was the standard in 1969? Your EPA screwed us and set us back in vehicle manufacturing 30 years or more. Thanks gov't screwup!
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb LOL! What you don't know? Well let's not use the slang term and use it's real term called air injection. Air injection reduces the excess unburnt fuel from shooting out of the tail pipe thus causing heavy pollution. Oh I see you got this information from popular mechanics from 1975. LOL! adding air injection systems didn't make the car that heavy and in fact they were lighter than the cars of the 40s, 50s, and 60s.
Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken Air injection only masks the problem caused by lowered compression which is lower burn rate and efficiency which was later alleviated by the 20 pound catalytic converter filled with a grid matrix coated in platinum. BTW, you can sell old cats for $100 a pop. So what do you think they cost to install. Also...
1957 chevy bel air shipping weight - 3,470
2012 Toyota avalon curb weight - 3,616
2012 Toyota Tundra - 5,250
1970 Ford F250 - 3,885
So which was heavier?
dlstb 3 months ago
@dlstb Actually air injection doesn't mask the problem. In fact, the complete opposite is true it raises the burn rate to make the fuel burn out more efficiently than before. Since the catalytic converter wasn't created until the 1980s, you couldn't convert them. However, you seem to forget all the other features that modern cars carry nowadays. On board computers, sophisticated braking systems, airbags for safety, climate control systems etc. Not standard in 1957.
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Ryooken 3 months ago
@Ryooken Dumbass, air injection injects air into the EXHAUST! The only fuel it burns is that that was not burned in the engine due to inefficiencies in the combustion process. The number one way to increase this efficiency is to increase compression ratios. Incidentally, it was smog regulations limiting NO2 and other products of combustion that required automakers to lower compression ratios necessitating the use of ANY system to burn unspent fuel.
dlstb 3 months ago