I notice your top line and lead line are both pulled tight. Guys in my area tell me to hang the lead line loser than the top line. Do you hang all yours evenly by pulling the top line and lead line tight? Im hanging 3.25"mesh and 5.5"mesh. Have you ever found it beneficial to hang more top line than bottom line?
@johnsmith27959 Hi sorry for the late reply. been too busy for pc. I know some guys in this area do hang the footline a little slacker to put all the weight on the headling; this allows them to use a lighter leadline, thus cheaper. However I dont use this method for gill nets. For tangle nets or monk nets, I use a similar idea only I lengthen the footline by 1" per staple. If you're interested in this let me know and I'll talk you through ti as it's quite complex; best fishes. Freddie
hi freddie, hows the fishing been down your way. we have had a poor season, been out a few times with the new nets i rigged up, they are catching fish any way very good bass up to 5lb.
Any advice on hanging a net with "floatline" as your topline? It's a new regulation for us and I'm struggling to figure out how the stretchable floatline ties even to the non-strecthable bottomline.
Hi John I think I know what you mean. The floatline, called Hauline by the Danes, does stretch a lot. So the way we deal with this is to "off-set" the lead line by an inch for each staple or tie, if you prefer. The way I do it with Tramell nets, 10.5 inch inner walls, is pick up 5 meshes into 20 inches on the Hauliine and opposite you pick up 5 meshes into 21 inches. At the end of your run, pull the net back and you MUST level up the last staples you set to the first mark on your rope. OK?
@wexfordrebel So, essentially you need to use more lead line than top line per net? To make sure it hangs straight when fishing would it work to use 110yds of bottomline measured slack to every 100yds of topline measured slack?
@johnsmith27959 Yes or maybe 108 yds to 100 on the head.This is ok for big mesh gear like 8" up to 12". However I would shorten the foot line more for smaller mesh as in 5" gill nets. In that case I'd try a half inch extra per staple on the foot. Hope this helps you out. Let me know how you get on.
@johnsmith27959 I hope this helps you out. When you come to haul this gear, the weight should all be on the Hauline then too which allows you to use a lighter lead rope if you like (cheaper). Freddie
Nice bit of rigging, its good to see that theres still hand rigged nets out there. Have You used the Loomis Needles Freddie ? as I find them to be of a higher quality than the Form Finder type.. Keep up the good work.
@GILLNETTING1 Aye Jason I forgot to say about the floatation. Normally we use a 4oz float a fathom apart. Any bigger just open them a bit or smaller then close up one. Good luck with it.
hi freddie, thanks for that. i got in touch with them an they didnt have the meshes i wanted.and they recomended me 2 a company south east netting which are really good with there prices.. which is the best way 2 rigg a 4.3/4ich 4ply x 30 mesh deep, please if you could help.
HI Jason yea SE Nets are ok. The skipper there is called Dave he's a good lad.. There's a couple of ways to rig the gear you're using. You could rig them half slack, which would be pick up 6 meshes into 14.25 inches ( or the length of 3 meshes). But if you want to open them up a bit, rig 5 meshes into the same distance. It'll give you more length and you'll catch less corruption. Why not try a couple rigged each way to see which performs the best. Let's know how you get on. Freddie
HI Jason I get my nets from Cosalt in Newlyn; Cornwall. They, in turn, get it imported from either Malaysia or Portugal depending on the type of net. Cheers fro the comment. Freddie
Any chance you could do a video of you tieing them knots on that rope , you are doing it abit fast for me to see what your doing . i need to learn how to tie them .
Sure man. I'll do a video next week. Just got back from Dorset rigging sole tramells there. The knot, if you want to practise it is a Clove Hitch backed up with a half hitch. Good luck. Freddie
I notice your top line and lead line are both pulled tight. Guys in my area tell me to hang the lead line loser than the top line. Do you hang all yours evenly by pulling the top line and lead line tight? Im hanging 3.25"mesh and 5.5"mesh. Have you ever found it beneficial to hang more top line than bottom line?
johnsmith27959 4 months ago
@johnsmith27959 Hi sorry for the late reply. been too busy for pc. I know some guys in this area do hang the footline a little slacker to put all the weight on the headling; this allows them to use a lighter leadline, thus cheaper. However I dont use this method for gill nets. For tangle nets or monk nets, I use a similar idea only I lengthen the footline by 1" per staple. If you're interested in this let me know and I'll talk you through ti as it's quite complex; best fishes. Freddie
wexfordrebel 3 months ago
hi freddie, hows the fishing been down your way. we have had a poor season, been out a few times with the new nets i rigged up, they are catching fish any way very good bass up to 5lb.
GILLNETTING1 4 months ago
Any advice on hanging a net with "floatline" as your topline? It's a new regulation for us and I'm struggling to figure out how the stretchable floatline ties even to the non-strecthable bottomline.
johnsmith27959 5 months ago
Hi John I think I know what you mean. The floatline, called Hauline by the Danes, does stretch a lot. So the way we deal with this is to "off-set" the lead line by an inch for each staple or tie, if you prefer. The way I do it with Tramell nets, 10.5 inch inner walls, is pick up 5 meshes into 20 inches on the Hauliine and opposite you pick up 5 meshes into 21 inches. At the end of your run, pull the net back and you MUST level up the last staples you set to the first mark on your rope. OK?
wexfordrebel 5 months ago
@wexfordrebel So, essentially you need to use more lead line than top line per net? To make sure it hangs straight when fishing would it work to use 110yds of bottomline measured slack to every 100yds of topline measured slack?
johnsmith27959 5 months ago
@johnsmith27959 Yes or maybe 108 yds to 100 on the head.This is ok for big mesh gear like 8" up to 12". However I would shorten the foot line more for smaller mesh as in 5" gill nets. In that case I'd try a half inch extra per staple on the foot. Hope this helps you out. Let me know how you get on.
wexfordrebel 5 months ago
@johnsmith27959 I hope this helps you out. When you come to haul this gear, the weight should all be on the Hauline then too which allows you to use a lighter lead rope if you like (cheaper). Freddie
wexfordrebel 5 months ago
Nice bit of rigging, its good to see that theres still hand rigged nets out there. Have You used the Loomis Needles Freddie ? as I find them to be of a higher quality than the Form Finder type.. Keep up the good work.
Bill..
netrigger 7 months ago
rigging gill net..i try 2 add it from you tube but wouldnt let me..
GILLNETTING1 1 year ago
hi freddie, ive had my gear from se netting.. ive started my first net hanging 6 in to 14.1/4" and a cork every 5ft..i had a quik vid 2 show
GILLNETTING1 1 year ago
@GILLNETTING1 Aye Jason I forgot to say about the floatation. Normally we use a 4oz float a fathom apart. Any bigger just open them a bit or smaller then close up one. Good luck with it.
wexfordrebel 1 year ago
hi freddie, thanks for that. i got in touch with them an they didnt have the meshes i wanted.and they recomended me 2 a company south east netting which are really good with there prices.. which is the best way 2 rigg a 4.3/4ich 4ply x 30 mesh deep, please if you could help.
GILLNETTING1 1 year ago
HI Jason yea SE Nets are ok. The skipper there is called Dave he's a good lad.. There's a couple of ways to rig the gear you're using. You could rig them half slack, which would be pick up 6 meshes into 14.25 inches ( or the length of 3 meshes). But if you want to open them up a bit, rig 5 meshes into the same distance. It'll give you more length and you'll catch less corruption. Why not try a couple rigged each way to see which performs the best. Let's know how you get on. Freddie
wexfordrebel 1 year ago
hey great vid.... where do you get ur meshes?? Jason
GILLNETTING1 1 year ago
HI Jason I get my nets from Cosalt in Newlyn; Cornwall. They, in turn, get it imported from either Malaysia or Portugal depending on the type of net. Cheers fro the comment. Freddie
wexfordrebel 1 year ago
Any chance you could do a video of you tieing them knots on that rope , you are doing it abit fast for me to see what your doing . i need to learn how to tie them .
talee1980 1 year ago
Sure man. I'll do a video next week. Just got back from Dorset rigging sole tramells there. The knot, if you want to practise it is a Clove Hitch backed up with a half hitch. Good luck. Freddie
wexfordrebel 1 year ago