InPhase Technologies/Nintendo holographic disc and reader

[G04i77A2]

it uses liquid crystals so you can create an interference pattern so that when the light diffracts, the different angles can be used differently

[G04i77A2]

@G04i77A2(X) the different angles can be used differently  (O) the different angles can be used to read different bits of data in parallel

[elpinchevirus]

looks like a 1992 Zip/Jazz Drive.... but is a good idea if we can have a 500GB one layer disc soon to Bluray reach that capacity

[MadThad0890]

Finally! a place to store all my CP!

[GreatBlade13570]

Maybe Its just me, but for some reason, this reminds me of some commercial for computers from the 80s...

[Anonymous0057]

a 700 megabyte cd plus the supposed 462 relativity to CDs, would equal 323400 megabytes. Or three hundred and twenty three terabytes. Not bad for a cartridge that resembles a floppy disk.

[autosaver]

Confirmed for Project Cafe

[SirFakeName]

@autosaver That's a lie.

[supernovacomics]

@autosaver Your stupid. Wii U cost would equal 15,000$ minimum.

[khfanlizzie]

@xdlugia1 I wish lol. But that's not what they mean by holograms.

[xdlugia1]

What does this mean? The new Wii will have holograms like in Star Wars?

[girlsdrinkfeck]

@xdlugia1 hope ya joking

[HealyHQ]

@xdlugia1 You cannot be serious...do you even understand what "holographic storage" means?

[xdlugia1]

@HealyHQ errrr...... No?....

[SirFakeName]

@HealyHQ Instead of being a jerk why not explain it? This is why our culture sucks, we're not willing to help out others.

[HealyHQ]

@SirFakeName Fucking Google it, idiot. This is why our culture sucks, no one's willing to do their own damn research. Why should I take minutes of my time to explain something that a simple search engine could tell you within seconds?

[SirFakeName]

@HealyHQ I'm not the one who needs to know you fucking pre-judgmental piece of shit! I was talking up for the other guy!

[HealyHQ]

@SirFakeName The other guy can talk for himself! Mind your own business!

[SirFakeName]

@HealyHQ No.

[Katzelle3]

@xdlugia1 Holographic storage means your disc has something like 3D storage. The disc can have more than one sheet or something.

It means you have a hundred discs in one disc. To be exact, it means your disc has about 3 Terabyte of data storage.

[xdlugia1]

@Katzelle3 Oh... I see, so instead of one layer like on DVDs it has like multiple layers? If it is like that, how can machines possibly read those?

[Katzelle3]

@xdlugia1 Not pretty sure about that. It has to do something with two light sources. It's really hard to explain

[12TheDude12]

With all the rumours aboung of a new Wii console, possibly coming out in late 2012, what might be the price range on these cartridges? Horrendously expensive?

[navylaks2]

Did Nintendo Help build this? gonna be interresting with the new Wii then.

But i Gues Play Station 4 is gonna have it to

[tkoizumi]

it looks like a floppy... with all that extra plastic on the data storage disk, would that increase in price? and also, Halodisk suppose to be able to read all data at once. not byte by byte like in all of our old method. if so then can you imagine if this was our primary drive? we will be laughing about the days of loading screen.

[WarriorFootball]

Interesting, with the continued development of optical computing it seems as though we have found the perfect storage medium to complement the supercomputers of tomorrow today. To say the least we are witnessing the birth of a new scientific revolution. With the raw processing power and limitess storage capability- We are the advent of 3D physical recreation of objects or teleportation.

[ShadowWolfTJC]

While a terabyte of memory might be more data than the average consumer would need, there's always the potential to make this technology more attractive to the average consumer by creating more compact storage mediums (the size of flash drives?) with storage capacities of maybe dozens or even hundreds of gigabytes. However, what could be even more attractive is how quickly data is read from a holographic storage medium. Imagine playing high-graphics games with extremely short load times.

[FullMetalFalcon]

But... engadget. com/2010/02/08/  inphase-out-of-business-assets­-seized-for-back-taxes/

I guess you could say, they were phased-out.

[waltermh111]

@FullMetalFalcon Dont count them out too fast.

They got a new owner already. Your engadget news is old. In march the rights to their tech were basically bought by another tech company so they are still developing something.

The only real problem is that they have yet to release a product after 4 years of promises and 3 failed release dates.

I wonder what nintendo and signal tech saw that convinced them ventures were worth the investment.

[FullMetalFalcon]

But... engadget. com /2010/02/08/ inphase-out-of-business-assets­-seized-for-back-taxes/ (remove spaces)

I guess you could say, they were phased-out.

[DuelinginRS]

Totally going with the Nintendo 3DS

[krisish00d]

It doesn't matter.

Nintendo can have epic storage.

Nintendo can have epic graphics.

Nintendo can have epic games.

BUT if they are still too safe with online play (i.e. using friendcodes, using WiiSpeak where everyone can hear you so there goes private conversations) they will fail next gen when this whole gimmicky motion sensing crap dies down.

[Meltd0wn]

@krisish00d

Interesting that you think that "motion sensing" is gimmicky and will die out, while Both Microsoft and Sony have already committed to incorporating it into their next gen systems.  And as you pointed out yourself with the Wiispeak It appears that Nintendo is already leaning towards easing their own standards on online restrictions.

[krisish00d]

@Meltd0wn

Easing online restrictions? You can only chat with friends. It's not really new. You could type in ACWW and talk in the game lobby of Metroid Prime Hunters and in one of the Pokemon games for DS. But only with friends. As for Sony and Microsoft, they could not afford to release a console almost completely based on motion sensing.

[ExImperialDragon]

@krisish00d

You might have your information for Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo backwards, actually. It's not that the foremost two couldn't afford to release a console based on motion sensing (they're freaking Sony and MS, taking losses on their current hardware sales to make it up in software), but it's that the two likewise thought that motion sensing was a gimmick, and that they could beat it out.

Obviously they've reconsidered, what with the Move and Wave coming out soon. ;D

[krisish00d]

@ExImperialDragon

I'm not saying that MS or Sony have better sales, I'm just saying that Nintendo can only go with this hype so long before people realize what they really bought.

[thewowcreators]

@Meltd0wn You have no knowledge of marketing do you? Sure, Motion Sensing Games will have a good run, but the only console, mouse and keyboard have been going too long to be outdated by an idiot waving his hands at a screen. Kinect is gone, Move is gone, Wii is still going, only because it was meant for motion.

[monoham1]

@krisish00d fuckin cartridges man! fuckin retro!! who carez!!!? im gonna get mario 2 3d edition! and did i mention fucking cartridges!! i cant wait to see the realisation of the wii was meant to be! maby theyll even ditch the whole visualboy thing and go with holograms, like, real ones! (or inside a pyramidbox i dont care, ill buy a walk-in pyramid box if i can have a nintendo hologram console with cartridges!)

[monoham1]

@krisish00d InPhase Technologies, after several announcements in 2006 and 2007—and successive delays—that it would soon be introducing a flagship product (what amounted to “vaporware”), went out of business in February 2010

;_;

[Katzelle3]

@monoham1 InPhase sells patents right now to gain money so they can continue.

[Rane909]

@krisish00d and you'll be first in line for move and kinect

[Katzelle3]

@krisish00d Pretty interesting, that Nintendo talks about their new Network, which will be similar to XBox Live and will include Steam and Origin.

[betoprophin]

For as big as that disc is I rather keep using my external Hard drive until they can get that thing from monster size to human size....; but we all remember how big the cellphone was when it first came out

[Lokid20]

Just off the top of my head they have issues with: drive hardware needs/size, increased power consumption to use on a real-time basis, pricing.

This was talked about six years ago and hasn't gotten much further. I'd say give it at least 10 more years.

[JuanGSP08]

Hard Drive vs Holographic Storage Technology, who would win?

[LouSaydus]

At only 10k per unit and another $650 per disc, it's a steal! Wait another 10 years so this stuff becomes affordable.

[rahmanroni]

True, but its the most secure option for things like the military and companies.

[1crazyalex]

Nintendo will be lose billion dollar like the PS3 bluray

dont being fanboy ok

[1crazyalex]

HVD vs InPhase which better?

[ESCUDEROdelDIABLO]

desde el 99 eh escuchado sobre el desarroyo del holographic disc y aun esta en proceso ? ... si ke toma tiempo esto mas de 10 a~os

[jesserussell]

The narrator sounds like she's from the Future where technology has superseded human control, like "I, Robot" or -insert futuristic dystopian/utopian society-make sense?

[1andonlySHADE]

if nitendoo make this new console u will see wii haters then saying oh im buying wii2

[brycebensing]

ahh yee

[ObiTrev]

They should call it the "Wii-R" just yo follow the DSi and Wii name system.

[d28m]

just one thing why do they not have nintendo in their partners on their website?

[ObiTrev]

Well Panisonic dosen't include Nintendo as a partner, and they made a DVD playing Gamecube together. It's a component partnership, not a complete partnership. Nintendo will pay X ammount of money to sell an X ammount of units of their technology, and in return they dont partner with Sony or Microsoft. As opposed to them working together to make a new console from the ground up. Nintendo -> InPhase = Nintendo Console + HoloDisk Components. It's not Nntendo + InPhase = NintendoPhase System

[glennbuchanan1]

Your partly correct, however, also wrong.Nintendo have a "joint patent" with inphase.Basicaly,they had at some point hit a stumbling block along the way and Nintendo funded alarge part of their research,meaning the tech is partialy owned by Nin..meaning any one wanting to use the tech, have to inphase/Nintendo.

[ObiTrev]

Well if Nintendo and Inphase have joint patented the "Holographic Disk Game System" then they will control the market. Sony and microsoft may opt not to make a holographic system due to the fact the idea is copyrighted by nintendo and inphase (like you state) and will have to pay royalties. Therefore "FORMAT WARS 5".

1st AC vvs DC

2nd Columbia vs RCA

3rd VCR vs BETAMAX

4th HD vs BLUERAY

and now

HOLOGRAPHIC vs THREE-DEE

Sony will undoubtedly develop a THREE-DEE version of Blueray, ugh.

[1crazyalex]

jesus i dont want PS4 die out just like sega

[ObiTrev]

I'm wondering if Sony will count their losses and just back out, and do what they do best, Blueray. I would like to see Sega come back as a console developer though, they were ahead of their time!

[Catscan93]

Kool I guess :P

[Catscan93]

eh? whered you hear that? O_o

[Catscan93]

hmm...IF this works it'll be excellent, but wont it cost the Earth? Like £800 for the console and £80 for each game...thats what im worried about with this

[peruface]

Super Nintendo 3

[peruface]

Finally Nintendo is going to Drop an Atom BOMB on the game industry. ..

[peruface]

Imagine a Zelda game with THis...

[ObiTrev]

YES! Man I love you Nintedno! THE RETRO NOLSTAGIC GAMING CARTRIDGE IS BACK! The cartridge is so cool, you feel the power when you plug in a heavy hunk of metal and hear the contacts click! Sure there is a disk in these ones, but it will protect the surface way better than a standalone disk. 5 bucks extra for housing amoung freinds is ok to me!

[stev1212]

ugh...... ¬_¬

[DIGItalColourMedia]

Stomach ache? Or are you shooting down an idea that hasn't even been fully explored yet? Dismiss this all you like - but you can't say Nintendo don't explore new ideas. Hopefully, this will become the basis for Nintendo's next-gen console, and should offer countless possibilities and opportunities for developers. If this goes through, we could see the best graphics and the smartest console of all time. Cross your fingers.

[monoham1]

@DIGItalColourMedia SSDs are faster and more re-rwiteable, this is gonna have to be reaaal cheap to compete with 256GB SSDs going sub $100 in the nxt few years

[nambinhvu]

@DIGItalColourMedia Nintendo is always exploring new ideas and concepts. There's nothing new about adding power, which is pretty much all Microsoft and Sony have been doing, then slowly copying the innovations that Nintendo makes, i.e. motion controlls and such, though Nintendo is starting to do the same with dual analog sticks and such, but that's because that's what the users asked for. I don't think Nintendo will go the power route, they tend to prefer to innovate with new features.

[bdbl0]

jus to make you all aware ..this is inphase's baby..hvd has been in work for years now...it really has nothing to do with nintendo..everybody is doin it from sony to toshiba and they are tryin to make it something like 1.6 tb on a single disc and we shouldn't get to pumped cause you still have about 2 more years or better

[MPMlynk]

HELL YEAH!!!! Nintendo is bringing cartriges back baby

[Limegreeny6]

Lol Nintendo Go dips on this tech :-P

[DIGItalColourMedia]

Incredible. Think of the possibilities - Nintendo have hit on the future of gaming storage: this will help create the greatest console of ALL time, direct from Nintendo and Inphases' teams. this wont be another Wii, this will be a first. At least, lets hope so. Also, i like remmbermytitans comment - that WOULD be incredible.

[vashx323]

wtf is the read/write speed they didnt say if it isint fast enough no one will go for it.

[timerider4]

Read Description --->

Mainly for storage now, cause it's not as fast as some hard drives.

[remmbermytitans]

I'm predicting that Nintendo is going to go over-the-top with their next system. Nintendo will release a console with TERABYTES of data using this new technology, and no longer will we need to go buy games, instead we'll be able to download games directly from Nintendo, and keep it on our systems. (Not really, but if Nintendo does do this, I called it first)

[poopsickle49]

u can already download games from ps network to ps3 hdd but i dono bout the terabytes of memory... that nintendo console may be in the 4 digit range of $

[NintendoFan17]

I can't wait until this is Implemented into gaming.

[favdoc5]

This will hopefully be Nintendo Wii 2's media drive. They've invested alot of $ in this tech.

[danieats]

wow that was a lot of discs was it dvds or cd

[kciNJNadon]

is that even real?

[Meltd0wn]

Yes it is real, that is why I included the 2 links to prove that it is real.