Andre Bertel Karate Seminar (Christchurch, New Zealand) - December 2011: PART TWO

[andrebertel]

@goutamkumar1813 No need to explain yourself any further, I get the picture!

[goutamkumar1813]

Hi

You say my kaminari arasi kata is wrong i accept but what is right ?

Your every step is loose.see own dachi. Anyone charge asshi barai you go to flore.

you uploade kaminari arasi kata full video full power and full speed and see who is best.

[ChristchurchShotokan]

This is such a teaser, the gassuku was amazing. The principles Andre Sensei taught glued everything together into effective Shotokan self-defence. I wish I could go to Europe for the February 2012 seminars. oss

[OkinawaT]

Bravo. Aplicaciones de un Shotokan efectivo, agil y dinámico

Este tipo de aplicaciones se debería haber enseñado siempre. Ahora, más que nunca es cuando se conoce el Karate

[andrebertel]

Hi PickaxeCraft,

Thanks for the comment. I myself never `kime' in the modern karate sense i.e. - a split moment of tension on impact (as I assume you are meaning) . I just try to flow with my power. In saying that, because I am not so good due to my physical limitations, I want to have more `flow'. To Asai Sensei, and to me as his deshi, my kime is "where I decide to hit". This is the IJKA way, the JKS does "sports kime". This is fine to `look nice' but no good for jissen-kumite. Best wishes

[Ronin6575]

@andrebertel You mentioned Jissen Kumite...are you referring to the full contact kumite we have see some of the Kyokushinkai schools doing?

Also, do you feel that perhaps we use focus or kime too much in practice?

Thanks for the great videos by the way.

[andrebertel]

Thanks. In regards to your question "Kime" is where you decided to hit and the type of impact. So if you mean `tensing on impact', this is ALWAYS counterproductive. Shotokan and other styles are guilty of this. It is "external performance based karate". This has been propogated by kata competitions.

As far as Kyokushin & full contact go, that is fine, but jissen-kumite is better understood as training for self-defence. Full contact is also sports. Jissen kumite training is not for fighting.

[andrebertel]

Understanding that karateka are not fighters, nor train to be fighters, is critical in understanding WHAT KARATE-DO actually is. Jissen-kumite is kumite for self-defence or actual self-defence.

While I respect Kyokushin et. al. and have many friends who do it, it is not karate-do because it is "fighting karate". The kumite training is based on becoming a "fighter". Yes, they have unusual kata, some self-defence etc; however, the style is centred on knockdown competition.

Kindest regards!

[andrebertel]

Sorry for the triple post, but it is hard to answer in the short space permitted!

To round up... Shotokan, Goju-Ryu, Shito-Ryu, Wado-Ryu, Kyokushin etc are all just a good as each other, it all depends on the qualiity of instruction, how one trains, the frequency and intensity of training and what one's objectives are.

I sincerely respect all karate styles/martial arts and don't think what I do, or anyone else does, is superior. Nevertheless, quality exists regardless of style.

Andre

[Ronin6575]

@andrebertel Thank you for your answers. What you are teaching is causing me to question many ideas I have had regarding Shotokan over the many years I have been involved with it. I believe what you are teaching is a move in the right direction. Are the Asai katas available on video anywhere?

[andrebertel]

@Ronin6575

Yes some are, but to me learning movements (and usually incorrect movements on youtube) is counterproductive unless taught in form and with all three forms of application (kihon - bunkai, oyo & jokyu oyo).

Kindest regards and best wishes, Andre