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Well, I have been to Dealey Plaza, Feb 1st of 2012. And I stood behind that picket fence and looked at the X on the road. That would have been a very easy shot to make. I also stood on the 6th floor and looked at the same X. I have shot deer at further distances that were moving faster than the motorcade. I am not saying there was or was not a second shooter, but am keeping an open mind. The government blames Oswald. But they also said Irac has weapons of mass destruction..
Anyone who has ever been to Dealey Plaza -- as I have -- can see there was no 2nd shooter on the grassy knoll, or anywhere else. The way the road angles, a shot from the grassy knoll would have gone into JFK's ear. The only "sniper's point" in the plaza that lines up perfectly with the road is the TSBD building.
There was no conspiracy. Oswald was a punk who got lucky.
(NOTE" Read "The Kennedy Detail," a book written by JFK's Secret Service Agents. Tells you a lot about 112263. Great book.)
@tysonfor1 If you mean the web video that claims the limo driver shot JFK - just another B.S. claim. You're telling me, while driving a car that was STILL IN MOTION, he was able to get off an over-the shoulder shot that didn't hit Mrs. Connelly or Jackie, but hit JFK perfectly.
Read "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner & "The Kennedy Detail" by JFK Secret Service Gerald Blaine. The driver is int'vwd in "Detail." The SecServ agents tried like hell to save JFK. No conspiracy, just 1 Oswald.
@RSLindsay Erm.... no I did not mean him at all. You didn't go to the website I asked you to did you? James Files was on the knoll. Go to that website and look with your own pork pies.
@RSLindsay So when you get shot from behind, you're head flys backwards and bits of your brain and skull fly behind you???? You people are totally crazy.
@tysonfor1 Yes, you're exactly correct (for once.) JFK's head was reacting, not to Oswald's bullet, but to the spray of blood & brains being pushed out the front of his skull by the bullet.
@tysonfor1 Also, you seem to forget that JFK was shot on the RIGHT side of his head. If the limo driver had fired over his shoulder at JFK, he would have hit JFK on the LEFT side of his head.
@tysonfor1 Oh, yes. The James Files site. That's the one that claims George H, W, Bush was involved. And I'm sure the Easter Bunny and Vince McMahon were involved too.
@RSLindsay Erm, there's a little thing called PROOF that backs him up. LOads of testimoney backs him up and he cannot be dissproved. They even found a bullet with his teeth marks on it...
@tysonfor1 It doesn't matter what Files (or any other confessing "JFK assassin") says. I've been to Dealey Plaza, and a shot from the grassy knoll is a PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY. The bullet would have had to CURVE to hit JFK the way he was hit.
"A bullet with his teeth marks...?" Gimme a break!
@RSLindsay Iv'e also been to the plaza many times. Iv'e written papers on this subject and from where files says he made the shot it is perfectly possible. Iv'e PM'd you. Please read it.
@RSLindsay Yep, Iv'e come to the conclusion that you are crazy. I even wrote in my first message that James was on the knoll so why you thought I was talkin about the limo driver. Seriously strange.
Let's assume all the theories are correct. JFK was assassinated by the power elite , including the major Wall Street banks that own the Federal Reserve, the CIA who wanted to stop the break up of their organisation , Mossad/Israel/Zionists and the M.I.C.
And let's assume all this becomes public knowledge and is backed by irrefutable evidence.
What do you think would happen?
What do you think should happen?
What effect do you think this would have now and in the future?
a constant demand for a search for a gunman on the knoll. There's ZERO evidence of shots from the front or side yet some insist that's where a shot or shots came from. This is like walking in your front yard and dropping your house keys, yet you search for them in the back yard even though you didn't drop them there. What a colossal waste of time.
@autoad since 67,you can see Badge man,and the other shooter,rear shot from census building,2nd or 3rd floor,if you noticed the gutter had been rebuiled from 63 pix of st.to late now,its over,get on with your lives,THAT!! is a waist of time..
@deni1149 The sewer/gutter/Elm Street has not been re-built from 1963. Photos from that day are easily compared to current photos of the street depth and curb height and they are virtually unchanged. In addition, even if someone was in the sewer with a rifle and attempted a shot at JFK, he wasn't visible from that location. Plus, there are no entry wounds to the front or side of JFK. Your sewer sniper theory falls apart rapidly. You said "Badge Man and the other shooter". Which "other shooter"
@deni1149 are you speaking about? You and your pro-conspiracy friends have at least 24 gunman in Dealey Plaza blasting away at the president. Here's the list of candidates eligible for "other gunman" status: Hard Hat Man, Black Dog Man, Coke Bottle Man, Cowboy Hats Man, Picket Fence Man, Waving At Mary Ann Moormen Man, Kicking Gordon Arnold Man, Ed Hoffman's Dark Coat Man and Striped Railroad Shirt Man, Under the Grassy Knoll Man, Triple Underpass Man, The Other Grassy Knoll Man,
@deni1149 Sewer Sniper Man, Behind The Pergola Man, The Other Shooter From The TSBD Man, Dal-Tex Man, The Building Behind The TSBD Man, Umbrella Man, Radio Man, Jackie Man, Driver Of The Limo Man, Gun Embedded In The Limo Seat Man, Shooter In The Limo Trunk Man.
Let me know which one you're referencing and we'll talk about it.
@autoad Zero evidence?!?!? apart from the fact that jfk was thrown backwards and that jackie kennedy went to retrive a piece of his brain that had flown backwards and was on the trunk?? The fact that all the autopst doctors and people who saw his injury said that there was a huge EXIT wound from the back of his head?? Have you done any research before you wrote that comment or have you just gone off what the Warren commission said and beleived that as fact?
@tysonfor1 None of the forensic pathologists who performed the autopsy on JFK saw or said there was a hugh exit wound to the back of his head. There said there was a small entry wound to the upper right portion of his head and a large exit wound to the upper right side of his head. None of the 8 pathologists for the HSCA said there was a large exit wound to the back of his head. Their findings said there was no medical evidence of JFK being struck by a bullet from the front or side.
@tysonfor1 The backward motion of JFK was not caused by a bullet entering his head from the front or side. Bullets do not transfer their energy into the target. They penetrate the target in the manner they were designed. The backward motion was likely caused by a neuromuscular reaction resulting from the massive amount of damage to his brain. Examination of the Zapruder film frames 313, 314, 315 show JFK's head being pushed forward about 2 inches prior to the backwards motion.
@autoad Seriously, there is more evidence that he was shot from the front than the back!! A man called James File has confessed to being the knoll shooter and all of the details add up and have been proven. They have even found a bullet with his teeth marks in buried right next to the fence by the knoll. Checkout the website "jfk case solved" and read all the info. It's time the general public became informed instead of being stupidly niave.
@tysonfor1 There is ZERO evidence he was shot from the front and it has NEVER been proven James Files shot anyone in Dealey Plaza in his life. Your belief in James Files is admirable but foolishly misplaced. There are others who have confessed to the shooting the president; Charles Harrelson and E. Howard Hunt. Therein lies the problem; most uninformed conspiracy cultists discover to their surprise, that there are more confessing assassins than there are assassinations. Let's use a little common
@tysonfor1 sense about what people saw and where they saw it;
Of the hundreds of people in Dealey Plaza the number of folks who saw someone on the knoll/picket fence/cement wall/sewer drain/triple underpass etc shooting at the president was zero. Nobody saw anyone on or near the knoll shooting at JFK. Lee Bower who had the best view of anyone did not see anyone with a weapon before, during or after the assassination.There was no evidence of shot(s) having been fired from the knoll area.
@tysonfor1 There were no empty shells and no powder burns on leaves. Nobody saw anyone leave the area with a weapon nor was there a weapon found anywhere in the knoll area. There was no medical, physical, forensic or ballistic evidence of shots striking JFK from the front or side. However, there were witnesses who saw a rifle sticking out of a window on the 6th floor of the TSBD. There were witnesses who saw someone firing a rifle at the motorcade from the same location. There is a boatload of
@tysonfor1 medical, physical, forensic and ballistic evidence to support shots fired from the same location.
The search for a gunman on the knoll is a ridiculous waste of time. And those who insist someone shot the president from that location, in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, are deluding themselves.
It's time YOU did some basic reading on the assassination before posting anymore goofy accusations and thoughtless conclusions.
@autoad I am a forensic scientist who has undertaken this investigation with an open mind and has reviewed ALL evidence available. All the facts and evidence point to a shooter from the front and trust me, I know exactly what I am looking for. I do not wish to continue the debate on this subject however because it seems people are too ready to ridicule and ignore my arguments. I am happy that I have come to the correct conclusions but thankyou for your somewhat predictable responce.
@autoad And as for the whole you saying I should do some research, I have forty-two files ram packed with research. I have even taken the time to seek certain people and gather my own evidence. I know just about everything you can know about this case. You say ballistic evidenvce supports a shooter from the same location, if you only knew how inaccurate that is. I could pick you to pieces in a court of law. Fact.
@autoad And for my final comment, it is very clear to me that you have not conducted your own research and have only gone off what others have written. This debate is impossible because you have accepted the "facts" which you have been asked to accept. I have the means and the ability to conduct my own forensic research and so am in a far better position to evaluate the evidence. The debate is pointless due to your steadfast stance.
@autoad "an empty barrel makes the most noise..." Brilliant sir. Well done. Yes, I am a forensic scientist. I work on crime scenes and have done for the past five years, sometimes for the police, sometimes for the military and sometimes privatley. I also investigate robberys, rapes, assaults etc... The job is ok but can be more routine than you would think. Whether you choose to beleive that is of little consequence to me. Trust me. The headshot was from the front.
@tysonfor1 Then why don't you confer with Dr. Michael Baden. He lead the 9 person team of forensic pathologists for the HSCA . They made a unanimous decision that JFK was not struck from the front or side and that both shots that struck him came from above and behind. I'm sure he's appreciate hearing from you and be gladdened knowing you're willing to share your extensive forensic skills with him. Would you like his address? Until then, stop bragging about your credentials. It's tedious.
@autoad I don't want to argue with you anymore as it is pointless.I was trying to offer you some expert analysis of what happened due to my partaking of very serious research into this subject. (purely for recreation) It is well known in the forensic industry that this case is a farce but I have been told to stay away from it because people are so stuck in their beleifs.I wont try to tell anyone else what I percieve to be the truth as it seems my peers are correct. You stick with your version.
Another in the long line of conspiracy theory videos that suggests shots were fired from the front and/or side of JFK. Yet none of the pathologists who examined the president or the records, photos, physical and ballistic evidence says JFK was shot from the front or side. Nobody in Dealey Plaza saw a gunman on the knoll or fence. Nobody saw anyone shooting at JFK from the knoll or fence nor was anyone seen leaving that area with a weapon and a weapons was never found in the area. Yet there is
Final thought before i respond to either of those who agree or disagree....one big question that is asked is "How could such a big secret be concealed" well thats easy people either A didnt kno or B were to scared to tell..The Government is so big they have a lot of power....they could easly threaten you with treason, or other crimes against the governet...look at JFK, he threw the CIA out of his inner circle and gave the xtra work to millitary..then he ends up dead...really try to think bout it
Also lets talk about physics can ANYONE LOGICALLY explain how a one bullet cause 7 different wounds on two people and have little to know damage (i.e Clay shaw trial). these "Conspiracy stories" make more sense then the damn warren commision....why is that MLK and RFK were assassinated ...and honestly if you guys can believe the government could do the stuff they did...why cant you non-believers believe they would kill their own leader for their own benefit...Look at ceaser
Also why would the SS pull off from their usual S.O.P and have no one walking with Kennedy when he was one of his most hostile states...why did the limo slow down to 10 M.P.H....why is that LBJ quickly took the oath of office and and can even see a advisor of some sort winking at him...why did we go from staying away from war to heading into it full force...Seriously there is NO WAY anyone could awnser xcept the ppl who killed JFK
Could-a should-a would-a Mr. Dumb-fuck. Anybody who knows ballistics knows the bullet that hit Kennedy in the head came from an elevated position from behind. That's where Mr. Oswald has located with a rifle. You failed, try again.
@bigboy45454545 tell me this why is it that the frontal right lobe s blown off...not the right side but the front right..how isthat Oswald shooting from the back right would cause Kennedy (when fatal shot hits) to go back and to the left...why is that the 3rd shot is the best shot when everyone knows a snipers 1st shot is the best..why would oswald pass up a clear shot when hes coming toward the book depository..why did multiple witnesses dies...and finally why would Oswald deny it if communist
@StSimonMartyr Actually it was Lee Harvey Oswald that killed JFK. But if you mean the Israeli Mossad and the CIA somehow brainwashed Oswald then maybe you're right? Now do you have any evidence for what you're claiming or do you just hate Jews?
@bigboy45454545 Why Cuss?? shows lack of intelligence,only child like responses,cant you guys debate with out being stupid? thats why the real evil laughs at you,no discipline in trying to work together...feel sorry for Gen.X and younger Gen.
@deni1149 The real lack of intelligence is adhereing to conspiracy theories like this one Buck-o. Oh and religion too. Tell me has magic Jesus done things for you, and are you going to live in magic Heaven-land when you die? Just asking.
Do you know where the still at 19secs came from? Looks like it was taken from a vehicle. I've not seen the photo before...and I thought I'd seen them all.
@moyadapne Same thing here. Looks authentic. Of course the first one is the Mary Moorman photo. It may have been taken from the Presidential press bus which was about 3 to 5 cars behind the limo. I have always wondered how they got pushed so far back in the line. You can see very clear photo of "black dog man" who disappeared right after the fatal shot never to be seen again, someone behind him have not seen that person before either.
@TakeBackAmerica2012 No I don't. I think Y/tube has disabled that option. So many vids I'd like to save too. Maybe some expert has found a way around it. ps...look at the height that foto was taken from. (Level with the f/way sign, and well before the head shot, as e/one is still happy) Gotta be from a vehicle as you suspect. Thinking about it, the timing does seem odd. If the 'bus was there, JFK woulda been shot by then ??? so why is e/one looking at the camera. Time to go check. Later.
@moyadapne Well the height of the photo is very elevated that's why I said maybe press bus. We'll have to find out where the press bus was in relation to the limo. I'll see what I can find out.
Ok, 2 guys behind a wall, and maybe a gray haired person standing in front of a tree. How would any of these 3 get away with a gun with all of those people from across the street almost instantly running up to the grassy knoll? Alot of smoke, but very little fire here, time to move on!
The presidential limo was driving through a gauntlet of gunfire. Unnamed and armed agents hired by the unknown "them" lined Elm Street and blasted away at JFK in a hail of gunfire. But all of them were terrible shots because their bullets didn't strike the president, or Jackie, or Nellie and John Connally nor did they strike the two SS agents or the limo. Only the bullets fired from LHO's Mannlicher struck the president.
the picture in ;41 sec. isnt from the times,,,,the car on the street is a later model from the 70s....nice try though....lol....what some people will do to get a vid on youtube.
@wheelsupz28 to NCFB4Life33: yeah, or he could've flown down in his flying saucer from Mars, fired the shot, and flew away!
Ya think alot of those people in the pictures of the event just might be ducking or fleeing, knowing someone was firing a gun in their general direction? Maybe? Huh?
@wheelsupz28 Just when I thought I had read every variation of the stupid, ill-informed 'a little knowledge is a dangerous thing' types who infest the comments box of anyone who posts a video questioning the "LHO as deranged lone assassin" narrative, along comes wheelsupz28 & sets a new all time low for critical thinking..well any kind of thinking actually, next he will be telling us that can't be a photo of the assassin because he is wearing flares and any fool know they no wear flares in 1963.
@wheelsupz28 YA!! I agree,however,thats only a simulation where a shooter was,their were 3/4 shooters,two last shots,rear and front,1/16 of a sec.hit JFK,..old Joe should have known better to try and outwit the line to the throne,since 54,"Bilderberg set in motion"Johnson to Obama were already hand picked,2016? Jeb Bush..
@wheelsupz28 YA!! I agree,however,thats only a simulation where a shooter was,their were 3/4 shooters,two last shots,rear and front,1/16 of a sec.hit JFK,..old Joe should have known better to try and outwit the line to the throne,since 54,"Bilderberg set in motion"Johnson to Obama were already hand picked,2016? Jeb Bush..
@wheelsupz28 YA!! I agree,however,thats only a simulation where a shooter was,their were 3/4 shooters,two last shots,rear and front,1/16 of a sec.hit JFK,..old Joe should have known better to try and outwit the line to the throne,since 54,"Bilderberg set in motion"Johnson to Obama were already hand picked.2016? J.Bush..
Jack Ruby knew there was a conspiracy at the time and said so on interview, think he knew better than most of us. He knew he was a dead man walking and told us that also, very little has ever been officially investigated regarding these facts.
You Conspiracy Loons have more hidden gunmen in Dealey Plaza than there were spectators. You've made yourself foolish and irrelevant with your wild unsubstantiated theories.
"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
The majestic JFK music almost seems to lend "truth" to those imaginary people "blobs" in the photographs. I think I even caught a glimpse of the twenty Freemasons hiding behind the pyracanthia bush with a sling shot. My real friends tell me that Conspiracy is such a waste of time. I know this is true, but it is just so entertaining that I can't help myself sometimes.
To get to the real culprits see The Men Who Killed Kennedy part 9. Tells pretty much the whole story, including the fingerprint of Malcolm Wallace found on the box in the 6th floor window. You'll NEVER hear this evidence on mainstream news. The History Channel even banned the 9th episode from airing. Then the producers left out that DVD from the boxed set. When they go to that length to cover up that usually means it is dead on right.
It's been 48 years and we're still arguing about this? I went to the TSBD and Dealey Plaza last May. The only enigma to me is if Oswald was the assassin, why didn't he take the President out as the limo made the slow turn off Houston Street? Everybody was a sitting duck in that limo.
I respect anyones theory because we all have one I'm sure. I myself think the United States Government had something to do with it. But by no means do I say that I know for 100% fact and it's case closed. I know if I did though I would be all over the TV with massive interviews and a major book deal being in the works. I think the truth is that we probably will never know what really happened that day in 1963.
@clev9980 if you actually want me to believe that you solved the JFK assassination then your a freakin fruitcake. You succeeded where others have not huh? Oh and I guess the press is knocking at your door daily as well huh? Youve been watching to much C.S.I. Miami, New York, and I guess for you Texas. Everyone has a theory "sir" and don't say it isn't a Mystery because it makes you look dumb.
Lmfao @clev9980 saying "Case Closed" lol yup case closed asshole. You solved the mystery, how did you do it so quickly? Wow I'm amazed at your intelligence.. What a dumbass.
@TheZincZipper It is not a mystery sir. Its been almost 50 years..and yes some people have the intellectual capacity and workplace skills to understand crime scenes-investigations. Attack the people selling bullshit books and videos...
Hey, I don't mean to be rude but for all of you speculating on the Dealey Plaza geography: I did a LOT of research into the "Black Dog Man" be and went so far as to travel to Dealey Plaza itself in April 1997. I stood behind that short concrete retaining wall and, at 6'4" tall, you can see my entire upper torso, including my belt buckle. There is NO visibility cover for a shooter in this position, from ANY angle. There WAS a Negro couple there who fled when the shots were fired. Pbly them.
Good indications of a conspiracy include men with fake Secret Service credentials on top of the grassy knoll preventing laymen and cops from investigating the railroad area, FBI agents taking the film of Beverly Oliver and never returning it, FBI agents coercing witnesses to say the shots came from the Book Depository less than an hour after the shooting, FBI withholding the fact that Oswald was an FBI informant, and the changing of witness testimony in the Warren Report.
Complete lunacy. Zapruder and the guy who was only 15 feet away from the limo when the headshot occured said they heard 3 shots coming from the rear of the limo. Frames 313-314 show his head move foward...along with the brain and skull matter going up and foward. Majority of brain matter was in the foward seating areas of the limo...case closed.
@clev9980 If you are referring to Bill Newman, he reported that the shots came from behind him, up on the hill. The "Blood" in frame 313 has been painted in. As well as the "Blob' on John's face that is supposed to show a high powered rifle wound. One look at the Front View of the Autopsy Photos proves it. No damage to John's face.
@conspiracydog11 Nonsense...the blood and brain matter was not painted in in frame 313...and his head clearly moves foward in 313-314...shot from the rear at an elevated position...it is almost 2012 people....this case is long closed.
@conspiracydog11 It did not vanish...it ended up inside the limo along with most of his brain matter all over the inside of the front part of the limo.
@clev9980 Well, it should have got on Jackie and John Connally and his wife, but it didn't. Two patrolmen behind the limousine were covered with blood and brains.
@bigfolkie5418 Right... But even assholes have eyes to see, and ears to hear, and a little intelligence (left from TV's brain washing sessions) to read, and think. That's the problem for the smart people who wrote false reports.
@theTRUTHprincess Yes. Let's all take the supposed words of a evil dictator, known liar, and tyrant. And British press as well, known purveyors of gross sensationalism (incl. the vaunted BBC).
@mkp823 lol. you have accepted the lies and propaganda given to you by the same forces which are responsible for JFK's death! Gaddafi is a HERO in LIBYA you fool! watch LYBIA TRUTH - free energy - free housing - free education ZERO INTEREST RATE he was pushing GOLD DINARS that is why he was taken out! you want to see true "evil" dictators SEE - Obama, Bush, Netenyahu or US backed Saudi Arabia may love surround you
It would be ubber cool to think maybe it was a time traveler standing there, And he traveled all the way back to see where the fatal shot came from, Then he found himself standing in the spot where people said the shooter was. O.o
I can only hope that one day the American public can deal with the fact that JFK was the victim of multiple assassins. Whether it was the culmination of a conspiracy or just coincidence, the fact remains that many "organizations" would have benefited from his demise.
We may never know who fired the fatal head shot. Let me assure you, it did not come from the 6th floor of the Texas School Book Depository.
@T42please I think you are correct but many organizations would benefit from any President's demise. If President's domestic opponents killed them every time they could benefit then every President would be killed within 100 days. My biggest problem is the medical evidence. All the experts conclude JFK was shot from above and behind so a grassy knoll shooter would have to miss. That leaves TSBD and Dal Tex building as prime locations but only LHO and TSBD have hard evidence to support it.
@mep41376 I get what you are saying however, JFK did piss off some very powerful people, people well capable of planning and carrying out such a brazen act of cold blooded murder in a public place and getting away with it. Conspiracy = Multiple shooters.
Just my opinion, unfortunately the more research i do on the assassination of JFK, the more complex it becomes.
@T42please Yep-the case really sucks you in as you research more and more - gluck! My biggest multiple shooter problem is if you plan on framing the guy in the 6th floor behind JFK, why even attempt to shoot him from the front,side,etc?seems crazy to consider. It would be better to miss your shot from the knoll as you at least wouldn't leave medical evidence of JFK hit from the front. That's why back when the HSCA thought there was 4 shots, they said 3 from TSBD and 1 from knoll that missed.
at :40 the location of the shooter? that's 15 ft from where Zapruder and his secretary were standing on the wall. Wouldn't they have noticed someone standing there... much less someone firing a rifle?
@gino066 You are correct. Plus if the shot had come from the grassy knoll, the trajectory of the bullet would have also very likely killed Jackie Kennedy and the brain matter would have ended up in a different spot.
smart its not possible for harvey to shoot front there had to be incomplinces helping him someone just could stand i the top middle of the bridge its possible this would be a great find if it were true its not possible to shoot him up front somewere or someone was on that bridge and shot him face with sniper hope we all find the truth. rest in peace john f kennedy
Everyone should Google ‘Penn & Teller jet effect’. They totally disprove the myth that Kennedy’s ‘back and to the left’ head movement means he was shot from somewhere out front or front-right (i.e. The Grassy Knoll). If anything this backwards head snap is further indication of what we already know from the ballistics and autopsy findings; Kennedy was shot from, and only from, the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository.
i think the grassy knoll area would have been the most likely spot to shoot,less people were in that area plus they had railway cover and several routes to just fade away out of sight,kennedy was right on view best position for a close head shot and no restraints from heavy crowd,and most logical too. most probably an insurance position for a definite last shot if all else fails.
@gentle7ways7 I agree with the general direction you refer to. But I think the fatal shot could have been fired from the storm drain too, especially after watching "JFK Conspiracy? PROOF finally revealed! (with SOUND) Sewer RATS?" I know it's a weird title, but it's a great 10 min. video.
Why would Wesley Frazier and Linnie Mae Randle lie about the package Oswald too to work? Why would Oswald lie about the same issue? Oswald statements reek of "guilty knowledge." An innocent person who had simply brought either a bag lunch or curtain rods to work would see no reason to lie about it. Oswald made numerous inconsistent statements (i.e. lies) and came up with implausible stories (i.e. more lies) under interrigation. Others had no reason to lie.
@abennett4 i never heard Oswald lie about anything? he was quite reticent and answered every question fully even his trip to the soviet union etc..he never confessed at all at any killings of tippit or the president he had no legal lawyer or representation whatsoever yet they bag there man with "its a sinch" "we have our man" rhetoric..he admitted nothing and had passed the nitrate tests including many other sources that proof he was a patsy and was the fall guy , can't you SEE THAT?
@gentle7ways7 Oswald lied when he said he didn't own a rifle. Paperwork proved he owned the murder weapon. Oswald lied when he said that it was not him holding the rifle in the backyard photos. Experts proved that those photos were legit. Oswald lied when he said he only brought his lunch into work that day. Oswald brought in a large package he claimed to Frazier contained "curtain rods". Oswald lied saying he never lived on Neely St. Oswald lied about having lunch with Junior Jarman at 12.30..
@abennett4 why would he have a picture taken of himself holding the rifle that was going to implicate him to the biggest assassination in americas history ? he stated it wasn't him and the photo of his chin doesn't look right as it looks fake, btw experts also say the photo was likely to be faked as Oswalds chin is elongated and not squared like in the photo, and the shadows don't relate to the time of day? again Oswald is inteligent enough not to do this yet here we have the same bizare events
@gentle7ways7 those photos were taken long before Kennedy even planned a trip to Texas so your first agrument does not hold up to scrutiny. The photos were gone over with a fine-tooth comb (read the analysis from the experts to the HSCA) and were completely legit. Oswald's handwriting was on the back of one of the pictures. There was a *negative* (hard to fake a negative in 1963) that was analyzed (shadows included!). Finally you make the bizarre argument that there was *too much* evidence.
Question: Are there any pictorial inconsistencies that suggest faking?
Answer: Careful examination of the photographs with respect to lighting, perspective, sharpness, distortion, grain pattern. density, and contrast revealed no evidence of fakery.
They drill down to the smallest details. Not only were they able to prove that it was Oswald, they were able to prove that it was his exact camera. Besides, Marina Oswald admitted taking those pictures.
@gentle7ways7 do you know anything about this. his wife acknowledged taking the photos. his mother and wife acknowledged destroying another one. the only expert who said it was faked was the same idiot who claimed the pictures of OJ's shoes were faked and it turned out he had no training in the field and that same photo was in a publication that had been widely disseminated before OJ killed what'shername.
@andrelebaron yes his wife has always stated she took the pictures but i have always wondered for whom they were actually done for if they were genuine,to me if you are purposely going to shoot somebody as high as the president you aint going to brag and parade the weapon in fancy photos,so therefore what would be the reason,Oswald was inteligent but i think gullible and easily duped IMO
@gentle7ways7 As far as the nitrate tests. A negative nitrate test is not exculpatory. It has been proved to be an unreliable test: far too many false negatives (and false positives too, for that matter). By the way, the nitrate test was negative on Oswald's cheek. But it was positive for his hands. I don't give Oswald any credit for his "I'm a patsy" comment. What is more telling was Oswald's handcuffed, defiant, clenched fist gesticulation. What innocent person would do that?
@abennett4 maybe his clenched fist gesticulation was in frustration as he had been framed by the trusted associates that used him? the nitrate test was Oswalds biggest ace card as they had nothing on him whatsoever !
@gentle7ways7 nothing on him whatsoever? Right! You only have the murder weapon(s), the opportunity, the backyard photos, the "curtain rods", his prints on the rifle and sniper's nest, the ballistics, the autopsy, his numerous lies under questioning, Walker attempt, his fleeing the scene of the crime, his "blood simple" behavior (consciousness of guilt) after the assassination, his murder of Tippit, resisting arrest. He would have been found guilty so fast it would have made your head spin.
@abennett4 murder weapons were most likely planted and there were two rifles found on the *6th floor* yes the *mauser* maybe Oswald did have curtain rods? nobody asatained this,the rifle was handled by many people *its on film with the guys hand all over gun the area where they said Oswalds prints were the gun by law should have been in a safe area so no contamination is possible* yet they miraculously get his palm print after his death lets face it anybody could have put his hand on the gun!
@gentle7ways7 There is no evidence they were planted. There was only one rifle which was at first misidentified as a mauser. Compare a mauser to a carcano. They look alike. As far as the curtain rods. That was the story that Oswald cooked up that day so of course they looked everywhere for them. No curtain rods! And as far as your last comment that anyone could put the dead Oswald hands on the gun that had been placed into evidence. No they couldn't.
@abennett4 the other rifle had mauser written on it if it was just one rifle the carcano it wouldn't have mauser written on it at all! and in rare footage(not sure where the source is from) as they film the gun being removed from the area you clearly see the mauser propped up in the doorway?as the carcano is removed its on youtube a documentary about craig i think, Oswalds palm prints yes they bloody can! and you know it.
@gentle7ways7 it was also identified as an argentinian gun and a british gun in the early broadcasts. You know what it means?
nothing. there was no mauser. no argentinian gun. they just got it wrong whcih is something they said on the air that they were likely to do as reports flooded in. There was just oswald's gun and oswald turning up in a theatre with a dead cop in his wake and oswald trying to shoot the first cop who tries to arrest him in the theatre..
@andrelebaron never heard that before? why would craig state he and fellow investigators including a weapons expert clearly see on the gun barrel *mauser* and different size caliber shells,he was seen or a man like him at tippits mured with another man seen best by african american woman who stated the man gesticulated to Oswald to run he had the gun in his hand and later she confirmed he threatend her,why did the WC overlook this, many other things including the first attempt foiled in chigago
@abennett4 he was likely involved nobody is denying that fact! but when you have been double crossed or "the patsy" in this what would you do? escape stay where you are? what would you do? by definition he is screwed right! if he stayed put or walked away from the situation
@andrelebaron yeah exactly which any one with a brain and Oswald clearly was inteligent didn't even try to conceal this? not even to stall himself some time,yet hey presto ! they find his gun three bullets neatly in a line yep 3 of em just so it fits the lonegunman theory nicely,and when once the gun has been handled by nearly half the police force they suddenly find Oswalds palm print when he has died? yet failed at attempts before that..weird!
His head is thrown backward when he is shot. the second time... hard to do if shot from behind !!!! I stood in tht window and on the knoll....there was more than one shooter!
there's is no way a shooter was behind the fence on the grassy knoll as demonstrated in the last photo. the back left of JFK's head would have been blown out. all the photographic and forensic evidence suggest shots from the rear. from the TSBD.
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inspectorcritic 5 days ago
Well, I have been to Dealey Plaza, Feb 1st of 2012. And I stood behind that picket fence and looked at the X on the road. That would have been a very easy shot to make. I also stood on the 6th floor and looked at the same X. I have shot deer at further distances that were moving faster than the motorcade. I am not saying there was or was not a second shooter, but am keeping an open mind. The government blames Oswald. But they also said Irac has weapons of mass destruction..
5073695jy 1 week ago
Anyone who has ever been to Dealey Plaza -- as I have -- can see there was no 2nd shooter on the grassy knoll, or anywhere else. The way the road angles, a shot from the grassy knoll would have gone into JFK's ear. The only "sniper's point" in the plaza that lines up perfectly with the road is the TSBD building.
There was no conspiracy. Oswald was a punk who got lucky.
(NOTE" Read "The Kennedy Detail," a book written by JFK's Secret Service Agents. Tells you a lot about 112263. Great book.)
RSLindsay 1 week ago
@RSLindsay Totally and utterly wrong. Checkout the website, "jfk case closed" and read all the info there. You will then know the truth.
tysonfor1 1 week ago
@tysonfor1 If you mean the web video that claims the limo driver shot JFK - just another B.S. claim. You're telling me, while driving a car that was STILL IN MOTION, he was able to get off an over-the shoulder shot that didn't hit Mrs. Connelly or Jackie, but hit JFK perfectly.
Read "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner & "The Kennedy Detail" by JFK Secret Service Gerald Blaine. The driver is int'vwd in "Detail." The SecServ agents tried like hell to save JFK. No conspiracy, just 1 Oswald.
RSLindsay 1 week ago
@RSLindsay Erm.... no I did not mean him at all. You didn't go to the website I asked you to did you? James Files was on the knoll. Go to that website and look with your own pork pies.
tysonfor1 1 week ago
@RSLindsay So when you get shot from behind, you're head flys backwards and bits of your brain and skull fly behind you???? You people are totally crazy.
tysonfor1 1 week ago
@tysonfor1 Yes, you're exactly correct (for once.) JFK's head was reacting, not to Oswald's bullet, but to the spray of blood & brains being pushed out the front of his skull by the bullet.
RSLindsay 1 week ago
@RSLindsay I'll PM you. Can't write much on here at all.
tysonfor1 1 week ago
@tysonfor1 Also, you seem to forget that JFK was shot on the RIGHT side of his head. If the limo driver had fired over his shoulder at JFK, he would have hit JFK on the LEFT side of his head.
RSLindsay 1 week ago
@RSLindsay you fucking nutts?!?!? Are you reading my comments?!?
tysonfor1 1 week ago
@tysonfor1 Oh, yes. The James Files site. That's the one that claims George H, W, Bush was involved. And I'm sure the Easter Bunny and Vince McMahon were involved too.
RSLindsay 1 week ago
@RSLindsay Erm, there's a little thing called PROOF that backs him up. LOads of testimoney backs him up and he cannot be dissproved. They even found a bullet with his teeth marks on it...
tysonfor1 1 week ago
@tysonfor1 It doesn't matter what Files (or any other confessing "JFK assassin") says. I've been to Dealey Plaza, and a shot from the grassy knoll is a PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY. The bullet would have had to CURVE to hit JFK the way he was hit.
"A bullet with his teeth marks...?" Gimme a break!
RSLindsay 1 week ago
@RSLindsay Iv'e also been to the plaza many times. Iv'e written papers on this subject and from where files says he made the shot it is perfectly possible. Iv'e PM'd you. Please read it.
tysonfor1 1 week ago
@RSLindsay Yep, Iv'e come to the conclusion that you are crazy. I even wrote in my first message that James was on the knoll so why you thought I was talkin about the limo driver. Seriously strange.
tysonfor1 1 week ago
BIGGIE! You will never know,to bad,You sound like someone with some brains,Caio!!!!!
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deni1149 1 week ago
Let's assume all the theories are correct. JFK was assassinated by the power elite , including the major Wall Street banks that own the Federal Reserve, the CIA who wanted to stop the break up of their organisation , Mossad/Israel/Zionists and the M.I.C.
And let's assume all this becomes public knowledge and is backed by irrefutable evidence.
What do you think would happen?
What do you think should happen?
What effect do you think this would have now and in the future?
MyHeart0fHearts 1 week ago
a constant demand for a search for a gunman on the knoll. There's ZERO evidence of shots from the front or side yet some insist that's where a shot or shots came from. This is like walking in your front yard and dropping your house keys, yet you search for them in the back yard even though you didn't drop them there. What a colossal waste of time.
autoad 1 week ago
@autoad since 67,you can see Badge man,and the other shooter,rear shot from census building,2nd or 3rd floor,if you noticed the gutter had been rebuiled from 63 pix of st.to late now,its over,get on with your lives,THAT!! is a waist of time..
deni1149 1 week ago
@deni1149 The sewer/gutter/Elm Street has not been re-built from 1963. Photos from that day are easily compared to current photos of the street depth and curb height and they are virtually unchanged. In addition, even if someone was in the sewer with a rifle and attempted a shot at JFK, he wasn't visible from that location. Plus, there are no entry wounds to the front or side of JFK. Your sewer sniper theory falls apart rapidly. You said "Badge Man and the other shooter". Which "other shooter"
autoad 1 week ago
@deni1149 are you speaking about? You and your pro-conspiracy friends have at least 24 gunman in Dealey Plaza blasting away at the president. Here's the list of candidates eligible for "other gunman" status: Hard Hat Man, Black Dog Man, Coke Bottle Man, Cowboy Hats Man, Picket Fence Man, Waving At Mary Ann Moormen Man, Kicking Gordon Arnold Man, Ed Hoffman's Dark Coat Man and Striped Railroad Shirt Man, Under the Grassy Knoll Man, Triple Underpass Man, The Other Grassy Knoll Man,
autoad 1 week ago
@deni1149 Sewer Sniper Man, Behind The Pergola Man, The Other Shooter From The TSBD Man, Dal-Tex Man, The Building Behind The TSBD Man, Umbrella Man, Radio Man, Jackie Man, Driver Of The Limo Man, Gun Embedded In The Limo Seat Man, Shooter In The Limo Trunk Man.
Let me know which one you're referencing and we'll talk about it.
autoad 1 week ago
@autoad Zero evidence?!?!? apart from the fact that jfk was thrown backwards and that jackie kennedy went to retrive a piece of his brain that had flown backwards and was on the trunk?? The fact that all the autopst doctors and people who saw his injury said that there was a huge EXIT wound from the back of his head?? Have you done any research before you wrote that comment or have you just gone off what the Warren commission said and beleived that as fact?
tysonfor1 1 week ago
@tysonfor1 None of the forensic pathologists who performed the autopsy on JFK saw or said there was a hugh exit wound to the back of his head. There said there was a small entry wound to the upper right portion of his head and a large exit wound to the upper right side of his head. None of the 8 pathologists for the HSCA said there was a large exit wound to the back of his head. Their findings said there was no medical evidence of JFK being struck by a bullet from the front or side.
autoad 1 week ago
@tysonfor1 The backward motion of JFK was not caused by a bullet entering his head from the front or side. Bullets do not transfer their energy into the target. They penetrate the target in the manner they were designed. The backward motion was likely caused by a neuromuscular reaction resulting from the massive amount of damage to his brain. Examination of the Zapruder film frames 313, 314, 315 show JFK's head being pushed forward about 2 inches prior to the backwards motion.
autoad 1 week ago
@tysonfor1 This would be the correct distance the average human head would travel after being struck by a bullet.
It's painfully clear you are the one who needs to do their research before posting comments that are factually incorrect.
autoad 1 week ago
@autoad Seriously, there is more evidence that he was shot from the front than the back!! A man called James File has confessed to being the knoll shooter and all of the details add up and have been proven. They have even found a bullet with his teeth marks in buried right next to the fence by the knoll. Checkout the website "jfk case solved" and read all the info. It's time the general public became informed instead of being stupidly niave.
tysonfor1 1 week ago
@tysonfor1 There is ZERO evidence he was shot from the front and it has NEVER been proven James Files shot anyone in Dealey Plaza in his life. Your belief in James Files is admirable but foolishly misplaced. There are others who have confessed to the shooting the president; Charles Harrelson and E. Howard Hunt. Therein lies the problem; most uninformed conspiracy cultists discover to their surprise, that there are more confessing assassins than there are assassinations. Let's use a little common
autoad 1 week ago
@tysonfor1 sense about what people saw and where they saw it;
Of the hundreds of people in Dealey Plaza the number of folks who saw someone on the knoll/picket fence/cement wall/sewer drain/triple underpass etc shooting at the president was zero. Nobody saw anyone on or near the knoll shooting at JFK. Lee Bower who had the best view of anyone did not see anyone with a weapon before, during or after the assassination.There was no evidence of shot(s) having been fired from the knoll area.
autoad 1 week ago
@tysonfor1 There were no empty shells and no powder burns on leaves. Nobody saw anyone leave the area with a weapon nor was there a weapon found anywhere in the knoll area. There was no medical, physical, forensic or ballistic evidence of shots striking JFK from the front or side. However, there were witnesses who saw a rifle sticking out of a window on the 6th floor of the TSBD. There were witnesses who saw someone firing a rifle at the motorcade from the same location. There is a boatload of
autoad 1 week ago
@tysonfor1 medical, physical, forensic and ballistic evidence to support shots fired from the same location.
The search for a gunman on the knoll is a ridiculous waste of time. And those who insist someone shot the president from that location, in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, are deluding themselves.
It's time YOU did some basic reading on the assassination before posting anymore goofy accusations and thoughtless conclusions.
autoad 1 week ago
@autoad I am a forensic scientist who has undertaken this investigation with an open mind and has reviewed ALL evidence available. All the facts and evidence point to a shooter from the front and trust me, I know exactly what I am looking for. I do not wish to continue the debate on this subject however because it seems people are too ready to ridicule and ignore my arguments. I am happy that I have come to the correct conclusions but thankyou for your somewhat predictable responce.
tysonfor1 1 week ago
@tysonfor1 You are not a forensic scientist.
autoad 1 week ago
@autoad And as for the whole you saying I should do some research, I have forty-two files ram packed with research. I have even taken the time to seek certain people and gather my own evidence. I know just about everything you can know about this case. You say ballistic evidenvce supports a shooter from the same location, if you only knew how inaccurate that is. I could pick you to pieces in a court of law. Fact.
tysonfor1 1 week ago
@tysonfor1 "I could pick you to pieces in court".
And empty barrel makes the most noise.
autoad 1 week ago
@autoad And for my final comment, it is very clear to me that you have not conducted your own research and have only gone off what others have written. This debate is impossible because you have accepted the "facts" which you have been asked to accept. I have the means and the ability to conduct my own forensic research and so am in a far better position to evaluate the evidence. The debate is pointless due to your steadfast stance.
tysonfor1 1 week ago
@tysonfor1 It appears your mind is made up into a steadfast stance.
autoad 1 week ago
@autoad "an empty barrel makes the most noise..." Brilliant sir. Well done. Yes, I am a forensic scientist. I work on crime scenes and have done for the past five years, sometimes for the police, sometimes for the military and sometimes privatley. I also investigate robberys, rapes, assaults etc... The job is ok but can be more routine than you would think. Whether you choose to beleive that is of little consequence to me. Trust me. The headshot was from the front.
tysonfor1 1 week ago
@tysonfor1 Then why don't you confer with Dr. Michael Baden. He lead the 9 person team of forensic pathologists for the HSCA . They made a unanimous decision that JFK was not struck from the front or side and that both shots that struck him came from above and behind. I'm sure he's appreciate hearing from you and be gladdened knowing you're willing to share your extensive forensic skills with him. Would you like his address? Until then, stop bragging about your credentials. It's tedious.
autoad 1 week ago
@autoad Our debate is over. You know nothing and have ceased to amuse me. Goodbye.
tysonfor1 6 days ago
@tysonfor1 I'm not here to amuse you.
Contact Dr. Baden. I'm sure he'll be impressed with your credentials.
autoad 6 days ago
@autoad I don't want to argue with you anymore as it is pointless.I was trying to offer you some expert analysis of what happened due to my partaking of very serious research into this subject. (purely for recreation) It is well known in the forensic industry that this case is a farce but I have been told to stay away from it because people are so stuck in their beleifs.I wont try to tell anyone else what I percieve to be the truth as it seems my peers are correct. You stick with your version.
tysonfor1 1 week ago
Another in the long line of conspiracy theory videos that suggests shots were fired from the front and/or side of JFK. Yet none of the pathologists who examined the president or the records, photos, physical and ballistic evidence says JFK was shot from the front or side. Nobody in Dealey Plaza saw a gunman on the knoll or fence. Nobody saw anyone shooting at JFK from the knoll or fence nor was anyone seen leaving that area with a weapon and a weapons was never found in the area. Yet there is
autoad 1 week ago
Final thought before i respond to either of those who agree or disagree....one big question that is asked is "How could such a big secret be concealed" well thats easy people either A didnt kno or B were to scared to tell..The Government is so big they have a lot of power....they could easly threaten you with treason, or other crimes against the governet...look at JFK, he threw the CIA out of his inner circle and gave the xtra work to millitary..then he ends up dead...really try to think bout it
ai3n10 2 weeks ago
Also lets talk about physics can ANYONE LOGICALLY explain how a one bullet cause 7 different wounds on two people and have little to know damage (i.e Clay shaw trial). these "Conspiracy stories" make more sense then the damn warren commision....why is that MLK and RFK were assassinated ...and honestly if you guys can believe the government could do the stuff they did...why cant you non-believers believe they would kill their own leader for their own benefit...Look at ceaser
ai3n10 2 weeks ago
Also why would the SS pull off from their usual S.O.P and have no one walking with Kennedy when he was one of his most hostile states...why did the limo slow down to 10 M.P.H....why is that LBJ quickly took the oath of office and and can even see a advisor of some sort winking at him...why did we go from staying away from war to heading into it full force...Seriously there is NO WAY anyone could awnser xcept the ppl who killed JFK
ai3n10 2 weeks ago
Could-a should-a would-a Mr. Dumb-fuck. Anybody who knows ballistics knows the bullet that hit Kennedy in the head came from an elevated position from behind. That's where Mr. Oswald has located with a rifle. You failed, try again.
bigboy45454545 3 weeks ago
@bigboy45454545 tell me this why is it that the frontal right lobe s blown off...not the right side but the front right..how isthat Oswald shooting from the back right would cause Kennedy (when fatal shot hits) to go back and to the left...why is that the 3rd shot is the best shot when everyone knows a snipers 1st shot is the best..why would oswald pass up a clear shot when hes coming toward the book depository..why did multiple witnesses dies...and finally why would Oswald deny it if communist
ai3n10 2 weeks ago
@bigboy45454545 your a fucken idiot
cullinane8888 2 weeks ago
@cullinane8888 I'm a fucking idiot? Well thank you for your expert opinion Mr. Dipshit.
bigboy45454545 2 weeks ago
What's an assination? Sounds kind of dirty.
canadianroot 3 weeks ago
What is the music you used for this video?
Ca1861 1 month ago
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StSimonMartyr 1 month ago
@StSimonMartyr Actually it was Lee Harvey Oswald that killed JFK. But if you mean the Israeli Mossad and the CIA somehow brainwashed Oswald then maybe you're right? Now do you have any evidence for what you're claiming or do you just hate Jews?
bigboy45454545 2 weeks ago
@bigboy45454545 Why Cuss?? shows lack of intelligence,only child like responses,cant you guys debate with out being stupid? thats why the real evil laughs at you,no discipline in trying to work together...feel sorry for Gen.X and younger Gen.
deni1149 1 week ago
@deni1149 The real lack of intelligence is adhereing to conspiracy theories like this one Buck-o. Oh and religion too. Tell me has magic Jesus done things for you, and are you going to live in magic Heaven-land when you die? Just asking.
bigboy45454545 1 week ago
Do you know where the still at 19secs came from? Looks like it was taken from a vehicle. I've not seen the photo before...and I thought I'd seen them all.
moyadapne 1 month ago
@moyadapne Same thing here. Looks authentic. Of course the first one is the Mary Moorman photo. It may have been taken from the Presidential press bus which was about 3 to 5 cars behind the limo. I have always wondered how they got pushed so far back in the line. You can see very clear photo of "black dog man" who disappeared right after the fatal shot never to be seen again, someone behind him have not seen that person before either.
TakeBackAmerica2012 1 month ago
@moyadapne I tried to right click and save that photo but it wouldn't work, do you know how to save it??
TakeBackAmerica2012 1 month ago
@TakeBackAmerica2012 No I don't. I think Y/tube has disabled that option. So many vids I'd like to save too. Maybe some expert has found a way around it. ps...look at the height that foto was taken from. (Level with the f/way sign, and well before the head shot, as e/one is still happy) Gotta be from a vehicle as you suspect. Thinking about it, the timing does seem odd. If the 'bus was there, JFK woulda been shot by then ??? so why is e/one looking at the camera. Time to go check. Later.
moyadapne 1 month ago
@moyadapne Well the height of the photo is very elevated that's why I said maybe press bus. We'll have to find out where the press bus was in relation to the limo. I'll see what I can find out.
TakeBackAmerica2012 1 month ago
Ok, 2 guys behind a wall, and maybe a gray haired person standing in front of a tree. How would any of these 3 get away with a gun with all of those people from across the street almost instantly running up to the grassy knoll? Alot of smoke, but very little fire here, time to move on!
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deadadelta 1 month ago
Indeed!
The presidential limo was driving through a gauntlet of gunfire. Unnamed and armed agents hired by the unknown "them" lined Elm Street and blasted away at JFK in a hail of gunfire. But all of them were terrible shots because their bullets didn't strike the president, or Jackie, or Nellie and John Connally nor did they strike the two SS agents or the limo. Only the bullets fired from LHO's Mannlicher struck the president.
Imagine that.
autoad 1 month ago
the picture in ;41 sec. isnt from the times,,,,the car on the street is a later model from the 70s....nice try though....lol....what some people will do to get a vid on youtube.
wheelsupz28 1 month ago
@wheelsupz28 your an idiot, did you not read the caption. it said this is another point where the shoot could have stood
NCFB4Life33 1 month ago 10
@NCFB4Life33 you are right...my bad...i misspoke
wheelsupz28 1 month ago
@wheelsupz28 stupid.
CasiodorodelaTeja 1 month ago
@wheelsupz28 to NCFB4Life33: yeah, or he could've flown down in his flying saucer from Mars, fired the shot, and flew away!
Ya think alot of those people in the pictures of the event just might be ducking or fleeing, knowing someone was firing a gun in their general direction? Maybe? Huh?
Speaking of idiots....
mkp823 1 month ago
@wheelsupz28 Just when I thought I had read every variation of the stupid, ill-informed 'a little knowledge is a dangerous thing' types who infest the comments box of anyone who posts a video questioning the "LHO as deranged lone assassin" narrative, along comes wheelsupz28 & sets a new all time low for critical thinking..well any kind of thinking actually, next he will be telling us that can't be a photo of the assassin because he is wearing flares and any fool know they no wear flares in 1963.
jackamo23 1 month ago
@wheelsupz28 I think that is a dramatization of a shooting position and nothing more (in my opinion).
TheBlacksan 1 month ago
@wheelsupz28 YA!! I agree,however,thats only a simulation where a shooter was,their were 3/4 shooters,two last shots,rear and front,1/16 of a sec.hit JFK,..old Joe should have known better to try and outwit the line to the throne,since 54,"Bilderberg set in motion"Johnson to Obama were already hand picked,2016? Jeb Bush..
deni1149 1 week ago
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@wheelsupz28 YA!! I agree,however,thats only a simulation where a shooter was,their were 3/4 shooters,two last shots,rear and front,1/16 of a sec.hit JFK,..old Joe should have known better to try and outwit the line to the throne,since 54,"Bilderberg set in motion"Johnson to Obama were already hand picked,2016? Jeb Bush..
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@wheelsupz28 YA!! I agree,however,thats only a simulation where a shooter was,their were 3/4 shooters,two last shots,rear and front,1/16 of a sec.hit JFK,..old Joe should have known better to try and outwit the line to the throne,since 54,"Bilderberg set in motion"Johnson to Obama were already hand picked.2016? J.Bush..
deni1149 1 week ago
Jack Ruby knew there was a conspiracy at the time and said so on interview, think he knew better than most of us. He knew he was a dead man walking and told us that also, very little has ever been officially investigated regarding these facts.
edge78a 1 month ago
You Conspiracy Loons have more hidden gunmen in Dealey Plaza than there were spectators. You've made yourself foolish and irrelevant with your wild unsubstantiated theories.
autoad 1 month ago
@autoad LOL! Don't you know EVERYONE in Dealy Plaza had a gun and was involved is some fashion?
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"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
AidanDonnelly 1 month ago
The majestic JFK music almost seems to lend "truth" to those imaginary people "blobs" in the photographs. I think I even caught a glimpse of the twenty Freemasons hiding behind the pyracanthia bush with a sling shot. My real friends tell me that Conspiracy is such a waste of time. I know this is true, but it is just so entertaining that I can't help myself sometimes.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
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@BlueWolfe38 zapruder can be seen in the first and second photos.. standing on pedestal being steadied by his secretary..
irish89055 2 months ago
@irish89055 Got the Zapruder part, couldn't miss ole Abe. I Love Your Buick Photo.
BlueWolfe38 2 months ago
To get to the real culprits see The Men Who Killed Kennedy part 9. Tells pretty much the whole story, including the fingerprint of Malcolm Wallace found on the box in the 6th floor window. You'll NEVER hear this evidence on mainstream news. The History Channel even banned the 9th episode from airing. Then the producers left out that DVD from the boxed set. When they go to that length to cover up that usually means it is dead on right.
TakeBackAmerica2012 2 months ago
It's been 48 years and we're still arguing about this? I went to the TSBD and Dealey Plaza last May. The only enigma to me is if Oswald was the assassin, why didn't he take the President out as the limo made the slow turn off Houston Street? Everybody was a sitting duck in that limo.
gotch09 2 months ago
Ace Ventura was the 2nd gunmen on the Grassy Knoll
TheNorthernSoulKing 2 months ago
I respect anyones theory because we all have one I'm sure. I myself think the United States Government had something to do with it. But by no means do I say that I know for 100% fact and it's case closed. I know if I did though I would be all over the TV with massive interviews and a major book deal being in the works. I think the truth is that we probably will never know what really happened that day in 1963.
TheZincZipper 2 months ago
@clev9980 if you actually want me to believe that you solved the JFK assassination then your a freakin fruitcake. You succeeded where others have not huh? Oh and I guess the press is knocking at your door daily as well huh? Youve been watching to much C.S.I. Miami, New York, and I guess for you Texas. Everyone has a theory "sir" and don't say it isn't a Mystery because it makes you look dumb.
TheZincZipper 2 months ago
Lmfao @clev9980 saying "Case Closed" lol yup case closed asshole. You solved the mystery, how did you do it so quickly? Wow I'm amazed at your intelligence.. What a dumbass.
TheZincZipper 2 months ago
@TheZincZipper It is not a mystery sir. Its been almost 50 years..and yes some people have the intellectual capacity and workplace skills to understand crime scenes-investigations. Attack the people selling bullshit books and videos...
clev9980 2 months ago
Strong evidence shows that the FBI and the CIA was behind this. The Government is scary as hell.
TheZincZipper 2 months ago
Hey, I don't mean to be rude but for all of you speculating on the Dealey Plaza geography: I did a LOT of research into the "Black Dog Man" be and went so far as to travel to Dealey Plaza itself in April 1997. I stood behind that short concrete retaining wall and, at 6'4" tall, you can see my entire upper torso, including my belt buckle. There is NO visibility cover for a shooter in this position, from ANY angle. There WAS a Negro couple there who fled when the shots were fired. Pbly them.
beaviselectron 2 months ago
you guys need to quit, really.
gibby100 2 months ago
Good indications of a conspiracy include men with fake Secret Service credentials on top of the grassy knoll preventing laymen and cops from investigating the railroad area, FBI agents taking the film of Beverly Oliver and never returning it, FBI agents coercing witnesses to say the shots came from the Book Depository less than an hour after the shooting, FBI withholding the fact that Oswald was an FBI informant, and the changing of witness testimony in the Warren Report.
bigjohnmac 2 months ago
they dont look like they are pointing any guns, would make more sense if the shooter laid low and aimed through the picket fence.
tankman1962 2 months ago
Complete lunacy. Zapruder and the guy who was only 15 feet away from the limo when the headshot occured said they heard 3 shots coming from the rear of the limo. Frames 313-314 show his head move foward...along with the brain and skull matter going up and foward. Majority of brain matter was in the foward seating areas of the limo...case closed.
clev9980 2 months ago
@clev9980 If you are referring to Bill Newman, he reported that the shots came from behind him, up on the hill. The "Blood" in frame 313 has been painted in. As well as the "Blob' on John's face that is supposed to show a high powered rifle wound. One look at the Front View of the Autopsy Photos proves it. No damage to John's face.
conspiracydog11 2 months ago
@conspiracydog11 Nonsense...the blood and brain matter was not painted in in frame 313...and his head clearly moves foward in 313-314...shot from the rear at an elevated position...it is almost 2012 people....this case is long closed.
clev9980 2 months ago
@clev9980 The past is never dead. It's not even past. But blood ain't going to vanish into thin air.
conspiracydog11 2 months ago
@conspiracydog11 It did not vanish...it ended up inside the limo along with most of his brain matter all over the inside of the front part of the limo.
clev9980 2 months ago
@clev9980 Well, it should have got on Jackie and John Connally and his wife, but it didn't. Two patrolmen behind the limousine were covered with blood and brains.
conspiracydog11 2 months ago
YOU ARE ALL ASSHOLES
bigfolkie5418 2 months ago
@bigfolkie5418 Right... But even assholes have eyes to see, and ears to hear, and a little intelligence (left from TV's brain washing sessions) to read, and think. That's the problem for the smart people who wrote false reports.
agraf74 2 months ago
Ed Hoffman's version needs to be believed.
vaas44 2 months ago
***
just like 9/11, people within the US government assisted with the operation however it was Israel's Mossad which initiated the operation.
JFK wanted to investigate Israel's Nuclear plant called Dimona. Israel would have none of that!
the book FINAL JUDGEMENT breaks the entire operation down
also a BBC documentary called ISRAEL's Secret Weapon dives into the subject matter
lastly, Gaddafi prior to being targeted by the powers that be had a speech where he stated this fact!
<3
theTRUTHprincess 3 months ago 2
@theTRUTHprincess Yes. Let's all take the supposed words of a evil dictator, known liar, and tyrant. And British press as well, known purveyors of gross sensationalism (incl. the vaunted BBC).
mkp823 1 month ago
theTRUTHprincess 1 month ago
I have a question...
Why "Umbrella Man" in this picture is behind marking???We can see umbrella behind the marking's leg...
MrNils80 3 months ago
It would be ubber cool to think maybe it was a time traveler standing there, And he traveled all the way back to see where the fatal shot came from, Then he found himself standing in the spot where people said the shooter was. O.o
KONSMITH 3 months ago 9
@KONSMITH Ha ha love it. and so true aswell. I so would go back in time to that day.
ChristianHolloway7 2 months ago
I can only hope that one day the American public can deal with the fact that JFK was the victim of multiple assassins. Whether it was the culmination of a conspiracy or just coincidence, the fact remains that many "organizations" would have benefited from his demise.
We may never know who fired the fatal head shot. Let me assure you, it did not come from the 6th floor of the Texas School Book Depository.
T42please 3 months ago
@T42please I think you are correct but many organizations would benefit from any President's demise. If President's domestic opponents killed them every time they could benefit then every President would be killed within 100 days. My biggest problem is the medical evidence. All the experts conclude JFK was shot from above and behind so a grassy knoll shooter would have to miss. That leaves TSBD and Dal Tex building as prime locations but only LHO and TSBD have hard evidence to support it.
mep41376 3 months ago
@mep41376 I get what you are saying however, JFK did piss off some very powerful people, people well capable of planning and carrying out such a brazen act of cold blooded murder in a public place and getting away with it. Conspiracy = Multiple shooters.
Just my opinion, unfortunately the more research i do on the assassination of JFK, the more complex it becomes.
T42please 3 months ago
@T42please Yep-the case really sucks you in as you research more and more - gluck! My biggest multiple shooter problem is if you plan on framing the guy in the 6th floor behind JFK, why even attempt to shoot him from the front,side,etc?seems crazy to consider. It would be better to miss your shot from the knoll as you at least wouldn't leave medical evidence of JFK hit from the front. That's why back when the HSCA thought there was 4 shots, they said 3 from TSBD and 1 from knoll that missed.
mep41376 2 months ago
at :40 the location of the shooter? that's 15 ft from where Zapruder and his secretary were standing on the wall. Wouldn't they have noticed someone standing there... much less someone firing a rifle?
gino066 3 months ago
@gino066 You are correct. Plus if the shot had come from the grassy knoll, the trajectory of the bullet would have also very likely killed Jackie Kennedy and the brain matter would have ended up in a different spot.
clev9980 3 months ago
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@clev9980
You are stupid.
normanmj 3 months ago
you people are fucking insane. it was oswald alone. wrap your head around it and get the fuck off the internet. ya bunch of simpletons.
midatlanticcycle 3 months ago
@midatlanticcycle please see the video 'the FBI lied' and see if there is still not a shread of doubt.
wunderdoggy 3 months ago
That guy in the Army helmet might be me killing your beloved President thrediidae black widow spider in hide!
Read the book from the assassin de' author "JFK Zoological Horror."
inspectorcritic 3 months ago
smart its not possible for harvey to shoot front there had to be incomplinces helping him someone just could stand i the top middle of the bridge its possible this would be a great find if it were true its not possible to shoot him up front somewere or someone was on that bridge and shot him face with sniper hope we all find the truth. rest in peace john f kennedy
baYYboo1 3 months ago
he was in the school book depository
killerman6020 4 months ago
0:43 Not much of a hide-out though
Poopingbotham 4 months ago
how did i get here?
TheSnak369 4 months ago
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Everyone should Google ‘Penn & Teller jet effect’. They totally disprove the myth that Kennedy’s ‘back and to the left’ head movement means he was shot from somewhere out front or front-right (i.e. The Grassy Knoll). If anything this backwards head snap is further indication of what we already know from the ballistics and autopsy findings; Kennedy was shot from, and only from, the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository.
abennett4 4 months ago
they wouldnt stand so close if their about to shoot a president it must of been alot further away
iTzDEVIL1 4 months ago
i think the grassy knoll area would have been the most likely spot to shoot,less people were in that area plus they had railway cover and several routes to just fade away out of sight,kennedy was right on view best position for a close head shot and no restraints from heavy crowd,and most logical too. most probably an insurance position for a definite last shot if all else fails.
gentle7ways7 4 months ago 3
@gentle7ways7 I agree with the general direction you refer to. But I think the fatal shot could have been fired from the storm drain too, especially after watching "JFK Conspiracy? PROOF finally revealed! (with SOUND) Sewer RATS?" I know it's a weird title, but it's a great 10 min. video.
73849309378 4 months ago
Bob,
Post me your e-mail on my channel page. I have all sorts of JFK-related things you'd be interested in seeing, I believe.
10Feanor 4 months ago
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Why would Wesley Frazier and Linnie Mae Randle lie about the package Oswald too to work? Why would Oswald lie about the same issue? Oswald statements reek of "guilty knowledge." An innocent person who had simply brought either a bag lunch or curtain rods to work would see no reason to lie about it. Oswald made numerous inconsistent statements (i.e. lies) and came up with implausible stories (i.e. more lies) under interrigation. Others had no reason to lie.
abennett4 5 months ago
@abennett4 i never heard Oswald lie about anything? he was quite reticent and answered every question fully even his trip to the soviet union etc..he never confessed at all at any killings of tippit or the president he had no legal lawyer or representation whatsoever yet they bag there man with "its a sinch" "we have our man" rhetoric..he admitted nothing and had passed the nitrate tests including many other sources that proof he was a patsy and was the fall guy , can't you SEE THAT?
gentle7ways7 4 months ago
@gentle7ways7 Oswald lied when he said he didn't own a rifle. Paperwork proved he owned the murder weapon. Oswald lied when he said that it was not him holding the rifle in the backyard photos. Experts proved that those photos were legit. Oswald lied when he said he only brought his lunch into work that day. Oswald brought in a large package he claimed to Frazier contained "curtain rods". Oswald lied saying he never lived on Neely St. Oswald lied about having lunch with Junior Jarman at 12.30..
abennett4 4 months ago
@abennett4 why would he have a picture taken of himself holding the rifle that was going to implicate him to the biggest assassination in americas history ? he stated it wasn't him and the photo of his chin doesn't look right as it looks fake, btw experts also say the photo was likely to be faked as Oswalds chin is elongated and not squared like in the photo, and the shadows don't relate to the time of day? again Oswald is inteligent enough not to do this yet here we have the same bizare events
gentle7ways7 4 months ago
@gentle7ways7 those photos were taken long before Kennedy even planned a trip to Texas so your first agrument does not hold up to scrutiny. The photos were gone over with a fine-tooth comb (read the analysis from the experts to the HSCA) and were completely legit. Oswald's handwriting was on the back of one of the pictures. There was a *negative* (hard to fake a negative in 1963) that was analyzed (shadows included!). Finally you make the bizarre argument that there was *too much* evidence.
abennett4 4 months ago
@gentle7ways7 Just an example form the HSCA:
Question: Are there any pictorial inconsistencies that suggest faking?
Answer: Careful examination of the photographs with respect to lighting, perspective, sharpness, distortion, grain pattern. density, and contrast revealed no evidence of fakery.
They drill down to the smallest details. Not only were they able to prove that it was Oswald, they were able to prove that it was his exact camera. Besides, Marina Oswald admitted taking those pictures.
abennett4 4 months ago
@gentle7ways7 do you know anything about this. his wife acknowledged taking the photos. his mother and wife acknowledged destroying another one. the only expert who said it was faked was the same idiot who claimed the pictures of OJ's shoes were faked and it turned out he had no training in the field and that same photo was in a publication that had been widely disseminated before OJ killed what'shername.
andrelebaron 4 months ago
@andrelebaron yes his wife has always stated she took the pictures but i have always wondered for whom they were actually done for if they were genuine,to me if you are purposely going to shoot somebody as high as the president you aint going to brag and parade the weapon in fancy photos,so therefore what would be the reason,Oswald was inteligent but i think gullible and easily duped IMO
gentle7ways7 4 months ago
@gentle7ways7 As far as the nitrate tests. A negative nitrate test is not exculpatory. It has been proved to be an unreliable test: far too many false negatives (and false positives too, for that matter). By the way, the nitrate test was negative on Oswald's cheek. But it was positive for his hands. I don't give Oswald any credit for his "I'm a patsy" comment. What is more telling was Oswald's handcuffed, defiant, clenched fist gesticulation. What innocent person would do that?
abennett4 4 months ago
@abennett4 maybe his clenched fist gesticulation was in frustration as he had been framed by the trusted associates that used him? the nitrate test was Oswalds biggest ace card as they had nothing on him whatsoever !
gentle7ways7 4 months ago
@gentle7ways7 nothing on him whatsoever? Right! You only have the murder weapon(s), the opportunity, the backyard photos, the "curtain rods", his prints on the rifle and sniper's nest, the ballistics, the autopsy, his numerous lies under questioning, Walker attempt, his fleeing the scene of the crime, his "blood simple" behavior (consciousness of guilt) after the assassination, his murder of Tippit, resisting arrest. He would have been found guilty so fast it would have made your head spin.
abennett4 4 months ago
@abennett4 murder weapons were most likely planted and there were two rifles found on the *6th floor* yes the *mauser* maybe Oswald did have curtain rods? nobody asatained this,the rifle was handled by many people *its on film with the guys hand all over gun the area where they said Oswalds prints were the gun by law should have been in a safe area so no contamination is possible* yet they miraculously get his palm print after his death lets face it anybody could have put his hand on the gun!
gentle7ways7 4 months ago
@gentle7ways7 There is no evidence they were planted. There was only one rifle which was at first misidentified as a mauser. Compare a mauser to a carcano. They look alike. As far as the curtain rods. That was the story that Oswald cooked up that day so of course they looked everywhere for them. No curtain rods! And as far as your last comment that anyone could put the dead Oswald hands on the gun that had been placed into evidence. No they couldn't.
abennett4 4 months ago
@abennett4 the other rifle had mauser written on it if it was just one rifle the carcano it wouldn't have mauser written on it at all! and in rare footage(not sure where the source is from) as they film the gun being removed from the area you clearly see the mauser propped up in the doorway?as the carcano is removed its on youtube a documentary about craig i think, Oswalds palm prints yes they bloody can! and you know it.
gentle7ways7 4 months ago
@gentle7ways7 it was also identified as an argentinian gun and a british gun in the early broadcasts. You know what it means?
nothing. there was no mauser. no argentinian gun. they just got it wrong whcih is something they said on the air that they were likely to do as reports flooded in. There was just oswald's gun and oswald turning up in a theatre with a dead cop in his wake and oswald trying to shoot the first cop who tries to arrest him in the theatre..
andrelebaron 4 months ago
@andrelebaron never heard that before? why would craig state he and fellow investigators including a weapons expert clearly see on the gun barrel *mauser* and different size caliber shells,he was seen or a man like him at tippits mured with another man seen best by african american woman who stated the man gesticulated to Oswald to run he had the gun in his hand and later she confirmed he threatend her,why did the WC overlook this, many other things including the first attempt foiled in chigago
gentle7ways7 4 months ago
@abennett4 he was likely involved nobody is denying that fact! but when you have been double crossed or "the patsy" in this what would you do? escape stay where you are? what would you do? by definition he is screwed right! if he stayed put or walked away from the situation
gentle7ways7 4 months ago
@gentle7ways7 haha. right. he just happened to leave his gun up there that day and run away and shoot a cop.
andrelebaron 4 months ago
@andrelebaron yeah exactly which any one with a brain and Oswald clearly was inteligent didn't even try to conceal this? not even to stall himself some time,yet hey presto ! they find his gun three bullets neatly in a line yep 3 of em just so it fits the lonegunman theory nicely,and when once the gun has been handled by nearly half the police force they suddenly find Oswalds palm print when he has died? yet failed at attempts before that..weird!
gentle7ways7 4 months ago
did kennedy really travel through deally plasa .....i dont.think he did.........
aifammafiaaifam 5 months ago
His head is thrown backward when he is shot. the second time... hard to do if shot from behind !!!! I stood in tht window and on the knoll....there was more than one shooter!
Hockey4lifes17 5 months ago
This Evil LBJ statement I believe refers to the murder of JFK
"It is the Melancholy law of human societies to be compeled sometimes to chose a great evil in order to ward off a greater evil"
cruisersism 5 months ago
Well now they ain't rare no more...
thconify 5 months ago
hollywood did it....................
SuperBandstand 6 months ago
ask TOM/the old man ask me
lynwoodsummerlin 6 months ago
ask TOM
lynwoodsummerlin 6 months ago
I believe there IS somebody "Standing Behind This Wall As Well"
Pls take 30 sec to see
watch?v=zRvXSwNInqE
NeilCrouse 7 months ago
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there's is no way a shooter was behind the fence on the grassy knoll as demonstrated in the last photo. the back left of JFK's head would have been blown out. all the photographic and forensic evidence suggest shots from the rear. from the TSBD.
abennett4 7 months ago 5
@abennett4
at last somebody with a brain!!!
captainkavern 6 months ago
@abennett4 bullshit....
gb9514 5 months ago
@gb9514 Such insights! You must be on the debate team at your Junior High.
abennett4 5 months ago