Chav culture has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the educational and social opportunities that are limited by class in this shit hole of a country.
Cont:5 David Starkey is right in regards to white wanting look and sound black. But this is not a New thing. David Starkey as a Historian should know this. Give you an example = Ali G. He became a cult figure overnight when he protrayed a certain certian of Uk blacks. However, is it black people fault? No it isn't. Is it black peoples fault that people like "Tim Westwood" who want to "Sound" black in regards to explanding their careers and wanting to sound cool are the ones at fault?
Cont4: Black music & its culture is so strong that countries like France & China fear its power as they have either made laws to try trying to stop or make laws whereby there must an equivalent translation of the native tongues language next to the original recorded output.
But how can you stop a music like Jazz? People have broken laws & given their whole lives in order to play the music.I believe that Hitler in Nazi Germany had to pass death laws to stop people playing it or listening to it
Cont3:The two most dominate forms of black music culture is & has been the Usa & Jamaica.Time and time again they have captured the imagination of the British White youth.Those two nations music images have not just captured the imagination of the Uk, but the whole world. For instance everyone thinks that the PUNK ROCK music/culture was created in the Uk.WRONG its was stated by groups like the Ramones & New York Dolls(USA). The Skinhead culture was created by the Jamaican "Rude Boy" Culture.
Cont 2: HipHop music is not all Gangster rap...like not all Rock music sounds like "Thrash Metal".. You have different styles of HipHop Music. Please listen to the music of A tribe called Quest, Da la Soul, etc... What I do agree with David Starkey on is that England white youth have mistakenly taken a certain image of Black American as the whole picture. What they don't understand is that there now a large proportion of Rich blacks within the Usa. Alot of young Usa blacks have masters degrees
@redjam40 And on the same poorly thought out logic that says whites are becoming black, it could equally be said that plenty of blacks have become white. This is a terribly simplistic way of putting it and a man as intelligent as David Starkey really should know better than making his points in this simplistic way when it is such a complex issue.
David Starkey is nearly almost right. However, he is wrong.Ask David Starkey if he likes Jazz music? Ask David Starkey if he liked Blues,Rock,Gospel &Soul music? Does he like Rock N Roll for instance? Black culture & its music is so powerful. It is literally the most listen to and most copied culture on the face of the planet. No nation on Earth can rest it pull. Hip/Hop Music if you really look at it is a fusion of all black music styles. To explain this, the use of sampling within this music.
David Starkey is a professional cunt. When tv producers want a cunt to stir things up and create a drama they know they can rely on him as.he never fails to disappoint.
@eezysqueezy Wow, 2 grown up words, very good. See that's much better. Now we're talking like adults :) I can see that you didn't personally like the musical addition, but such a view is very subjective you must understand, you cannot say absolutely that 'it didn't work'. You can say however that most people didn't like it or didn't find it added to the video, that would be a fair point.
@eezysqueezy A novel metaphor, slightly better than your previous work. Quick tip btw, if someone doesn't debate with your original point, but rather points out a problem/something humorous about your method of delivery, it doesn't prove or disprove that original point. Good that you know the expression 'taciturn admission' though. I'm proud of you.
But honestly, the austion powers music, it was awful and pointless, wasn't it? You can tell the truth. I won't think any less of you for admitting what you knew to be true 4 posts ago.
"You gonna feel a slight sting. That's pride fucking with you. Fuck pride! Pride only hurts. It never helps" - Marcellus Wallace
Anyone who agrees with Starkey are sad, deluded, evil, ignorant, living in the past, the list goes on. I get tired of all this anti-racist is code for anti-white shit. Grow up please, it's so boring to read. However, it does make me feel grateful that at 16 I am more broad minded and mature than you incessantly hateful Hitler loving morons. I don't care what colour anyone is, the rioters were rioters. David Starkey needs to scoot off back to the middle ages, and take some of you lot with him.
@reeceyj95 It's a strawman that people tend to construct. I'm anti-racist. I don't agree with discrimination agaisnt blacks, asians OR whites. I also refuse to let any religion have it's way; if Islam decides to dig itself into our rights or legal system then I'm going to fight back. I don't know any other "lefties" who disagree with me on these matters; no doubt some will exist but they are just as delusional as the anti-racism= anti-white crowd.
There's a storm brewing, no doubt. The whites it seems, are made to feel guilty for past colonial exploitation and are now paying for it. I for one will not eat this multiculture rhetoric that we are force fed.
@thewotsit I don't know which planet you live on but I've never met a black person ( I have a black uncle, cousin and several black friends and acquaintances) who's tried to make me feel guilty for colonialism and/or slavery. There will be a few nutters who will do; just tell them to fuck off. Stop acting like it's a nation-wide problem.
Only white countries and every white country is target for massive never-ending immigration of people not of our race until white children become an ever vanishing minority in their own countries. White children are only two percent of the worlds population and anti-whites like you demand they be eliminated totally.
Because anti-racist is just a code word for anti-white,it`s genocide
Of course rap glorifies the bad behavior of non-Whites. That's the whole point of it. Classical music glorifies the exalted nature of Whites. If diversity is strength, why does it need speech codes to defend it? Why don't we tell the truth, as Starkey does? Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, White countries for everyone?? What's happening is anti-White genocide.
@laetior Correction: SOME Rap glorifies gangster trends and negative aesthetics. The same Rap that is promoted by record labels OWNED by Whites. The Hip Hop culture (from which the mainstream Rap culture/music was distilled from - the "Gangster element" if you like) The Hip Hop music & culture which is multi0racial by the way and always was) was developed to PREVENT people getting involved in gangs in the first place. The idea of the "battle" btw MCs, DJs and Breakers so they wouldn't HAVE to
People say there is this RACE problem and this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries. They say the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites. It’s really just the final solution to the white problem. It’s genocide. They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
@Gustaveleloup He said "Whites are becoming Black" so white people were rioting because they were acting "Black", that's pretty racist. His further comments clarified that he wasn't talking about ALL black people but that association with skin colour is totally wrong. It's not skin colour that makes people act like thugs, it's essentially how you are treated by others and their expectations and expectations of your peers that makes you a thug.
@Gustaveleloup But the point is that while he isn't saying all black people act like thugs he IS saying it is their culture to act like thugs. But there is no "black" culture, the fact gangster rap and thuggery get labelled as "black culture" is racism in itself. Gangster rap was created by blacks, but their promoting of violence and crime were not a result of being black. Equally Hitler did not kill Jews because of his moustache.
@CowLunch If you watch the whole interview, Starkey explains that gangster culture does not equate to black culture. I'll be fair: Starkey states 'the whites have become black' to provoke a reaction. That's what he does. But his point stands.
As for toothbrush moustaches, you will notice that they declined after the Second World War and the end of the Holocaust...
@Gustaveleloup Maybe I need to rephrase that. He is not saying all blacks are thugs, but all thuggery is black - The "whites becoming black" comment implies this view.
So toothbrush moustaches are evil? The fact they have become taboo shows how stupid people are and why racism got started in the first place.
@CowLunch I'm not arguing against the fact that a large number of white kids have become engrossed in gang culture and started talking like black gangsters. But the fact that language even exists is because of an under-educated black population. Starkey talks as if this is some black plague that has infected whites, when in reality it is that white children are facing the same lack of education as blacks. Whether its their parents or schools failing them I don't know.
@CowLunch The point being made is that the poor and uneducated, regardless of skin clour, have adopted a gangster 'culture' that is black. I couldn't say how different white gangsterism might be, but the fact is that the attitude so frequently adopted by these rioter types has its origins in black gang communities. That is not to blame black immigration; we must recognise that blacks are not gangsters and that the riot is not the fault of black people.
@CowLunch The nature of racism is unreasonable, sweeping generalisations.
While Starkey makes a valid point, he states it a dangerously broad fashion by which he means to incite uproar. He shouldn't call it 'black culture', but perhaps 'black gangster culture. Still, I wish the other guests on the show would let him speak.
@iSorrowproductions A white person who loves their race and wants to see it survive into the future is deemed a "hater" "racist" "white supremacist" by the anti-white Establishment.
Meanwhile,the anti-white Establishment and its supporters are doing their best to eliminate white people via non-white immigration and "assimilation" yet they call themselves "Anti-racist" "tolerant" "benevolent" "moral".
@iSorrowproductions 1. Try to imagine how much brainwashing it would take to convince all the Asians living in Asia, that they need to go ahead and replace themselves (in Asia) with North African Muslims????
2. Now imagine that they were so totally mind conditioned and brainwashed. That they really believed it would be RACIST not to????
If you manage to do that: Welcome to the world of the white Anti-whites!
So my question is: Can anyone think of something dumber than a white Anti-white????
David Starkey's just an over educated fat slob quoting bloody text talk....I have full respect for my human brothers and sisters no matter what colour they are, we are all equal and free on this land it's about time the government treated everyone that way maybe just maybe we would get on, on this lovely planet we call earth.
David Starkey... my word. Knew he was a twat but this is quite an effort he's put in to make me think he's a bigger wanker than Nick Griffin. Didnt know it was possible.
My part of Yorkshire is losing it's dialect and identity thanks to many factors, natives selling out their culture for this spasticated urban gang shit being one.
this isn't racist its observant im a doorman and i had a scrawny little white boy at my door a few weeks ago trying to get in the club, this wouldn't have been a problem if he wasn't dressed like something out of "menace 2 society" and when i turned him away he said " wa'eva blud im guna come back when you finnish and shank you" after which i proceeded to detain him for making a threat against my life and disturbance of the peace, but just goes to show how ridiculous this country is getting
@Tedaus5 i agree he is a racist and a complete tool but i happen to agree with the fact that the american "gansta" image is glorified and rediculous in my experience its the white kids that are worse, the whole chavy wanabe tough guy image is a problem and needs to squashed.
and the example i gave is just one of many incidents of the same kind so yes he was a dick but he's not the only one i deal with countless amounts of ignorent idiots who think theyre black everyday
@si223 Boo, I'd rather you do not respond to me with such atrocities. Your disrespectful comment is very distasteful. Now, if you had any common sense, my statement simply meant that despite all the different races/ethnic groups that are present in the world; we are very much alike. There are too many issues; poverty, diseases, natural disasters... in this world for people to be concerned about David Starkey's biased and obviously prejucided views. so, you need to SHUT THE FUCK UP!
What he should have said,and I think, was clumsely trying to, is that British kids ( of any colour) think American gang culture is cool. And that is a disaster.
alot of teens in inner city areas choose to communicate in jamaican patios (yes black AND white) as much as the slang n jargon irritates me surely there are far deeper roots to the problem of violence than the particular way a person talks.
he is not a racist, true racism to me means wishing ill on a whole race or culture, his only wrong doing was seeing what hes seen on the street now and again as actual fact
I was actually watching this on tv as he was saying it and i do believe he is not a racist but he was misguided. there is a certain element of truth in what he was saying in that alot of white kids have adopted black youth gang speak but white kids have always formed there own gangs and slang and theres always been little scumbags in all cultures who given an oppotunity will put two fingers up to authority and society. he shouldnt have said what he said but that doesnt make him a racist.
Interestingly, there were no riots in Scotland, and Glasgow has a huge gang culture, so I think the idea of gang culture being a cause is a fallacy. Reports suggest it was down to poverty and a lack of any connection between the poor communities and the government.
The reason Scotland in particular was unaffected is because the SNP is generating real optimism and gives a positive message. They have spirit, rather than saying "we need this" or "we must do that"
To the person who uploaded this, what does it take to make you understand that it wasn't UK riots, it was English riots. Are you totally and completely thick or do you just like to offend the other UK nations?
Black people are over-represented in Prisons, why? And it is true that many of the white youth offenders are acting like black badmen. Gang Culture stems from the innate human need to feel part of a group. Therefore solution starts at home. E.g. Sikh and Hindu families are very close - none of them participated in the riots, coincidence?
David, is right. He is not being racist, just observant. He is purely stating observants, with valved points. I don't believe that chavs have infested American cities like they have infested a large about of major inner cities in England. Chav, standing for council houses and violence, are essentially the scrum of the earth, they hung in gangs, with hoods up, carrying weapons and huge dogs, to try and intimidate people and commit crime. They have no respect for the education system, political s
Hes completely right, you dumb fucking liberal idiots too scared to be labelled racist are only keeping the dumb niggers down. So yeah go ahead and say hes talking shit...the problems will just never get solved, No skin of my nose lol.
He does not have the right, not to say this. So fuck the PC bandwagon. Enoch and Starkey were both right. The naive tards got from this "All Jamaicans are criminals". No, whats he's saying is, gang culture is a black thing. And white people have no identity in this hell hole country, so they are acting like black gangsters. Screw what out of touch politicians like Ed milipede and our biast media says.
@BENJIMANBREEG33 Were the Krays black? They had the police in their pocket.
Have you ever seen gangs of New York? Gang culture has ALWAYS been in major cities. London and New York have always had gang problems for hundreds of years.
@ojideagu Lol, did Starkey mention the Krays and are we talking about New York that is full of wigger, or do you mean the Mafia? What I meant to say is that the current gangs we have, is a black thing. Chavs and wiggers who tink dey r from da street. Its not even organised crime, they are just lowlife scum, they'll commit crime for no aparrent gain. And the way they talk, is fake, and definitely not an English accent.
@BENJIMANBREEG33 That accent, while it's annoying, IS now an official English accent. That's how language and accents evolve. Organised crime is every bit as bad as street thuggary. Whether it's the Mafia or the Krays. Unless you think extortion of local business people and shop owners with threats of violence is not equivalent to street mugging?
Victorian London was a crime ridden cess pool long before mass immigration.
London has always had a crime problem and gangs of thugs.
@ojideagu Its a fake accent. You see people talking with it, but when they're in a room of normal people, it starts to go. I've had a friend who adopted it, then it just went when he sorted his life out. The Krays or the Mafia weren't as low as the vermin we see today, they even had some good points. They wouldn't mug the elderly or disabled. So whats your point, cause there was crime in the past, mass immigration and this behaviour is justified?
bang on..immature,uneducated,products of dysfunctional parenting;these kids gravitate to gangs and copy what they perceive as tough/cool,which they get from various media-TV,internet,etc.
@velkom And to make it worse, its just accepted. Then you get some clown like Owen Jones, who say its the result of the working class being let down. No, they are not working class people.
for those who missed the comment hammersmith80 left for me but quickly deleted because he's a fucking coward, here it is again:
"@Rabsputin No he's spot-on, go and iron your track suit bottoms and polish your white trainers you irksome piece of shit."
this is rich coming from a bottom feeder like you. starkey is a complete cunt, and given that you agree with him, this would make you a complete cunt. you and him are everything that's wrong with this place.
@Rabsputin You haven't got the intelligence to take part in a meaningful debate and I'm no coward, I'm a realist and it's liberal pricks like you that are the ruination of the UK, gutter filth, all you can do is call me a cunt over and over, you are exactly the sort of cretin that people like me laugh at, as for the comment I removed I felt I let myself down with the language I used but the sentiment remains you're a lifeless thick dolt and anything I say on these pages I would say to your face.
This shouldn't be about whether or not white people are adopting black culture. A mix of cultures is inevitable in a MULTICULTURAL society.
What I find offensive is that it's looked on as a negative thing. Starkey is quite clearly using this idea of black culture 'intruding' on all his perfect white children as an excuse for any white person involved.
The discussion of these riots needs to be moved away from racism, because it quite obviously involved both blacks and whites, young and old.
@Hammersmith80 Thank you for demonstrating exactly my point. Yes, it's happened, but tell me why it's a bad thing. You can go on about it being 'poisonous', 'rebellious' whatever, but please enlighten me on how this could have possibly started the riots, which is what this is all about anyway.
And what is this about a 'warped sense of entitlement'? It's people like you need to stop hiding behind your disgusting generalizations and start justifying your opinion.
@Zeflingg23 I never said it started the riots and really I answer to noone least of all an internet dullard such as yourself. The bastardisation of the English language is one aspect of the moral decline in the UK. Starkey illustrates his point perfectly well. Poisonous and rebellious, yes absolutely - "innit" that word alone tells me the sort of uneducated fools that walk our streets.
@MrFlibble2011 Lol, firstly. I am white. Secondly, you clearly haven't read the other comments on here that I've made to some of the others criticising Starkey. Thirdly, "he just hates shitskins" - that'd be like you then? Doesn't that just say it all. Fourthly, do you genuinely believe that suddenly pulling out of a region after 150 years of imperialism will not have serious consequences (remember what happened in Britain after the Romans)?
@MrFlibble2011 Sure, I'll even let you pick the factors you want me to use to define success...you know, providing they're not contradictory to the goal of identify "successful black countries" (e.g. you can't define success as being inversely proportional to the ratio of black people to overall population).
@MrFlibble2011 Fifth, the West deliberately and repeatedly stirred up ethnic, tribal, religious and political tensions for our own advantage when it suited us. Afghanistan is just the most recent and best known example of this, but to name others: Sri Lanka, The Congo, Rwanda, India, Nigeria and Rhodesia. Now, we have tribal, ethnic and political tension across vast swathes of the African continent. You want to have a serious conversation? Then be prepared to try and understand the world.
@MrFlibble2011 Like I said, I was waiting for you to tell me how you want me to interpret the word "success". Are we talking in terms of GDP, GDP per capita, life expectancy, child infancy, employment figures...?
@MrFlibble2011 Ironic, also, that a man (I assume, given the pseudonym, that you are indeed a man) so up on his grammar should make such a rudimentary error as to utilise in a single sentence contradictory pronouns in reference to a single object.
@MrFlibble2011 And wouldn't it just be, omfg hillarious, if it turned out that after your oh-so-scathing "professor" jibe it turned out that I actually happened to be a professor?
@MrFlibble2011 To clarify, the first error I counted in your post is in the following clause: "a person of your undoubted brilliance should spend your time more profitably". Here the phrase "a person of your undoubted brilliance" denotes the subject of the clause. This is actually indicative of the third, not the second, person and as such the correct pronoun to utilise in referring to the object ("your time") should actually also be the third person plural possessive ("their", not "your")...
@naishjam Naturally I'm assuming here that you intend for me personally to better utilise my own time, and not that someone else should better use my time on my behalf.
@MrFlibble2011 "You can easily start a sentence as such so long that it is a simple sentence inversion technique where 'and' is heading a dependent clause". I assume you mean "so long as it is a simple sentence inversion"?
@MrFlibble2011 I'll pre-empt a response to my own response. I will concede the following to have been posted in haste and thus not properly checked. It is a bit shitty: "And wouldn't it just be, omfg hillarious, if it turned out that after your oh-so-scathing "professor" jibe it turned out that I actually happened to be a professor?". To rephrase: "And wouldn't it be just, omfg hillarious, if after your oh-so-scathing "professor" jibe it turned out that I actually happened to be a professor?"
also, it trikes me (sorry if anyone has touched on this before) that he is one of the few people not to follow most white's subconscious line of reasoning, he doesn't feel guilty about white/black history, because he is equipped with knowledge. Funny how when he attempts to make his point with those white guests present, their shutters simply come down and they protest out of fear. Sad that white people can't debate these issues any more without jumping on the P.C. bandwagon when it gets heated.
Stereotypes exist for a reason. We are all a part of some culture, so we should'nt feel sorry for others being stereotyped, because every culture is stereotyped. you can't offend one culture and expect your culture to be lavished upon; something Muslims and Black people have gotten lost on aparantly. Part of being treated equally is being held reposnible for your actions, fact was most of the rioters were black.
@mugato316 Oh really? You will stab him? Actually? You will actually walk up and put a knife into Starkey's body? Go on then, and I'll laugh hard when I read about your sorry ass rotting in prison for life. You're just as much of a racist douchebag as Starkey and his little posse. Racism works both ways and phrases like "white prick" and "stupid white ppl" are just as racist as Starkey's moronic comments.
A whole bunch of you are confusing 'Jamaican slang' with what is referred to as Multicultural London English and has an equal connection with Jamaican patois as it does Cockney dialects. You backwards haters are ten-a-penny as Mr. Starkey proven. and stretch from the educated to the uneducated. Innit is an English derived word. And regardless, how can linguistics start a riot ?
Saying that rap music glorifies rioting is truly the ramblings of a man who clearly has been living in the same time period he's been glorifying on television for years. He's out of touch, out of our time period and is just doesn't understand half the things he's talking about, clearly. He's blatantly just said that black culture is corrupting white culture! The BBC will jump the gun at a presenter who makes any type of joke not on the script, yet they'll let a white guy be racist!
What David Starkley is wrong about is grouping "Black" culture with "Gangsta" culture. "Black" culture can refer to Fiji culture, it is a loose term and yet a volatile one.
This buffoon knows if he is controversable he will get paid to appear (mostly)on the bbc.No-one should take him seriously as he knows nothing about modern britain ,the clown
Which Asian countries provide immigrants with racially discriminatory affirmative action programs, racial quotas, and free housing and healthcare, marginalizing their indigenous populations?
Which Asian country's media bombards its citizenry with multi-racial propaganda 24/7?
In which Asian countries would a woman be arrested for expressing the opinion her country was better off without mass immigration?
It's government-mandated population replacement. It's genocide against white people.
"Blacks" and "Whites"... All of u r the same-foolish. This country has got a history of violence that can cover the distance between here and the moon. The 12th cent massacre of the Jews, the 16th ct. Evil May Days 'white' foreigners being persecuted, the Gordon riots and looting in the 18th cent. Whatever the reason for these civil unrests race is not the reason why people act in the way they do. You have to be an ignorant fool to believe all whites are racists and all balcks are gangsters.
The UK really must be in a poor state - I actually find myself agreeing with Starkey for a change. Though he could have underlined that his point was not regarding race, rather gang culture - which is sometimes associated with the former.
Does he know what he is saying??
28Zeppelin 11 hours ago
what shit thought it was a good idea to have this music playing in the background, makes both of them inaudible!
Confino 1 day ago
starkey you fucking dumb stupid crazy dickhead get a gun and go blow your brains out
0123MrDx 2 days ago
Chav culture has nothing to do with race and everything to do with the educational and social opportunities that are limited by class in this shit hole of a country.
calummacewan 3 days ago
Cont:5 David Starkey is right in regards to white wanting look and sound black. But this is not a New thing. David Starkey as a Historian should know this. Give you an example = Ali G. He became a cult figure overnight when he protrayed a certain certian of Uk blacks. However, is it black people fault? No it isn't. Is it black peoples fault that people like "Tim Westwood" who want to "Sound" black in regards to explanding their careers and wanting to sound cool are the ones at fault?
redjam40 4 days ago
Cont4: Black music & its culture is so strong that countries like France & China fear its power as they have either made laws to try trying to stop or make laws whereby there must an equivalent translation of the native tongues language next to the original recorded output.
But how can you stop a music like Jazz? People have broken laws & given their whole lives in order to play the music.I believe that Hitler in Nazi Germany had to pass death laws to stop people playing it or listening to it
redjam40 4 days ago
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Cont3:The two most dominate forms of black music culture is & has been the Usa & Jamaica.Time and time again they have captured the imagination of the British White youth.Those two nations music images have not just captured the imagination of the Uk, but the whole world. For instance everyone thinks that the PUNK ROCK music/culture was created in the Uk.WRONG its was stated by groups like the Ramones & New York Dolls(USA). The Skinhead culture was created by the Jamaican "Rude Boy" Culture.
redjam40 4 days ago
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redjam40 4 days ago
Cont 2: HipHop music is not all Gangster rap...like not all Rock music sounds like "Thrash Metal".. You have different styles of HipHop Music. Please listen to the music of A tribe called Quest, Da la Soul, etc... What I do agree with David Starkey on is that England white youth have mistakenly taken a certain image of Black American as the whole picture. What they don't understand is that there now a large proportion of Rich blacks within the Usa. Alot of young Usa blacks have masters degrees
redjam40 4 days ago
@redjam40 And on the same poorly thought out logic that says whites are becoming black, it could equally be said that plenty of blacks have become white. This is a terribly simplistic way of putting it and a man as intelligent as David Starkey really should know better than making his points in this simplistic way when it is such a complex issue.
28Zeppelin 11 hours ago
David Starkey is nearly almost right. However, he is wrong.Ask David Starkey if he likes Jazz music? Ask David Starkey if he liked Blues,Rock,Gospel &Soul music? Does he like Rock N Roll for instance? Black culture & its music is so powerful. It is literally the most listen to and most copied culture on the face of the planet. No nation on Earth can rest it pull. Hip/Hop Music if you really look at it is a fusion of all black music styles. To explain this, the use of sampling within this music.
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David Starkey is a professional cunt. When tv producers want a cunt to stir things up and create a drama they know they can rely on him as.he never fails to disappoint.
lozghost7 4 days ago
The music was not necessary
Sonofsun001 4 days ago
They just don't understand him
evvo123 4 days ago
PS whatt the fuck is the point of the austin powers music you tool?
eezysqueezy 5 days ago
@eezysqueezy I'm guessing you're about 13? Adults usually state their preferences without lowering to silly name calling. You'll grow up one day.
davidkeithbecket 5 days ago
@davidkeithbecket Did you think the austin powers music worked, fuckstick?
eezysqueezy 4 days ago
@eezysqueezy Oh I see what you did there, combining sex with a stick. Good one.
davidkeithbecket 4 days ago
@davidkeithbecket Thank you for your continuing support and taciturn admission that this austin powers music is indeed redundant.
eezysqueezy 4 days ago
@eezysqueezy Wow, 2 grown up words, very good. See that's much better. Now we're talking like adults :) I can see that you didn't personally like the musical addition, but such a view is very subjective you must understand, you cannot say absolutely that 'it didn't work'. You can say however that most people didn't like it or didn't find it added to the video, that would be a fair point.
davidkeithbecket 4 days ago
@davidkeithbecket You're like a low rent Yoda, anyone ever tell you that? Now tell true, did YOU think the austin powers music sucked ass?
eezysqueezy 4 days ago
@eezysqueezy A novel metaphor, slightly better than your previous work. Quick tip btw, if someone doesn't debate with your original point, but rather points out a problem/something humorous about your method of delivery, it doesn't prove or disprove that original point. Good that you know the expression 'taciturn admission' though. I'm proud of you.
davidkeithbecket 4 days ago
@davidkeithbecket Gee dad, THANKS!!!
But honestly, the austion powers music, it was awful and pointless, wasn't it? You can tell the truth. I won't think any less of you for admitting what you knew to be true 4 posts ago.
"You gonna feel a slight sting. That's pride fucking with you. Fuck pride! Pride only hurts. It never helps" - Marcellus Wallace
eezysqueezy 4 days ago
He's right.
eezysqueezy 5 days ago
what a legend!
BiXHORNETXiS 5 days ago
As an historian, I have to say he is an embarrassment to our profession.
WarriorOfSunlight 1 week ago
@WarriorOfSunlight agreed, he truly makes a terrible example of historians
big0sf 1 week ago
Argh! The music! Why?
FlowersInHisHair 1 week ago
Anyone who agrees with Starkey are sad, deluded, evil, ignorant, living in the past, the list goes on. I get tired of all this anti-racist is code for anti-white shit. Grow up please, it's so boring to read. However, it does make me feel grateful that at 16 I am more broad minded and mature than you incessantly hateful Hitler loving morons. I don't care what colour anyone is, the rioters were rioters. David Starkey needs to scoot off back to the middle ages, and take some of you lot with him.
reeceyj95 1 week ago
@reeceyj95 It's a strawman that people tend to construct. I'm anti-racist. I don't agree with discrimination agaisnt blacks, asians OR whites. I also refuse to let any religion have it's way; if Islam decides to dig itself into our rights or legal system then I'm going to fight back. I don't know any other "lefties" who disagree with me on these matters; no doubt some will exist but they are just as delusional as the anti-racism= anti-white crowd.
195ashes 1 week ago
There's a storm brewing, no doubt. The whites it seems, are made to feel guilty for past colonial exploitation and are now paying for it. I for one will not eat this multiculture rhetoric that we are force fed.
thewotsit 2 weeks ago
@thewotsit I don't know which planet you live on but I've never met a black person ( I have a black uncle, cousin and several black friends and acquaintances) who's tried to make me feel guilty for colonialism and/or slavery. There will be a few nutters who will do; just tell them to fuck off. Stop acting like it's a nation-wide problem.
195ashes 1 week ago
@195ashes Only speaking from a singular viewpoint, afterall this is a forum for debate is it not?
thewotsit 5 days ago
Seriously? Majority of white gangs, not just White supremacist gangs, make Black gangs look like Children playing with knives in their back garden.
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the music is so shit for this clip starkey talking serious and people think this is joke
his giving as a warning and of course the pc brigade starts trying to cover up the truth
starkey should of got up and shouted out what he had on the paper so they get it in there fucking thick heads
KILLWRONGDOERS 2 weeks ago
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he is right.
mrmaxwellgeorge 2 weeks ago
Only white countries and every white country is target for massive never-ending immigration of people not of our race until white children become an ever vanishing minority in their own countries. White children are only two percent of the worlds population and anti-whites like you demand they be eliminated totally.
Because anti-racist is just a code word for anti-white,it`s genocide
AntiWhitesRwrong 2 weeks ago
Of course rap glorifies the bad behavior of non-Whites. That's the whole point of it. Classical music glorifies the exalted nature of Whites. If diversity is strength, why does it need speech codes to defend it? Why don't we tell the truth, as Starkey does? Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, White countries for everyone?? What's happening is anti-White genocide.
laetior 2 weeks ago
@laetior Correction: SOME Rap glorifies gangster trends and negative aesthetics. The same Rap that is promoted by record labels OWNED by Whites. The Hip Hop culture (from which the mainstream Rap culture/music was distilled from - the "Gangster element" if you like) The Hip Hop music & culture which is multi0racial by the way and always was) was developed to PREVENT people getting involved in gangs in the first place. The idea of the "battle" btw MCs, DJs and Breakers so they wouldn't HAVE to
JayGriffinblaze 1 week ago
People say there is this RACE problem and this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries. They say the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites. It’s really just the final solution to the white problem. It’s genocide. They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
mr1alphaalpha 2 weeks ago 10
@mr1alphaalpha You're right.
There need only be an intent to destroy our race, in whole or in part, to qualify as genocide.
ONLY White countries are being targeted for a blended humanity through a policy of mass non-White immigration and assimilation.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.
AusGael 2 weeks ago
@mr1alphaalpha OH FOR FUCK SAKE GO BACK TO /pol/
Yubera2K10 4 days ago
He's sort of right.
knivesmcgraw 2 weeks ago
Starkey says, 'It's not skin colour, it's culture.' He's right.
It is not a racist remark. In saying that Starkey's words are racist, one is effectively saying that black people are all part of the gang culture.
Gustaveleloup 3 weeks ago
@Gustaveleloup He said "Whites are becoming Black" so white people were rioting because they were acting "Black", that's pretty racist. His further comments clarified that he wasn't talking about ALL black people but that association with skin colour is totally wrong. It's not skin colour that makes people act like thugs, it's essentially how you are treated by others and their expectations and expectations of your peers that makes you a thug.
CowLunch 2 weeks ago
@CowLunch The comment alone sounds racist. One must listen to his whole argument. If only these idiots would let him speak...
Gustaveleloup 2 weeks ago
@Gustaveleloup But the point is that while he isn't saying all black people act like thugs he IS saying it is their culture to act like thugs. But there is no "black" culture, the fact gangster rap and thuggery get labelled as "black culture" is racism in itself. Gangster rap was created by blacks, but their promoting of violence and crime were not a result of being black. Equally Hitler did not kill Jews because of his moustache.
CowLunch 2 weeks ago
@CowLunch If you watch the whole interview, Starkey explains that gangster culture does not equate to black culture. I'll be fair: Starkey states 'the whites have become black' to provoke a reaction. That's what he does. But his point stands.
As for toothbrush moustaches, you will notice that they declined after the Second World War and the end of the Holocaust...
Gustaveleloup 2 weeks ago
@Gustaveleloup Maybe I need to rephrase that. He is not saying all blacks are thugs, but all thuggery is black - The "whites becoming black" comment implies this view.
So toothbrush moustaches are evil? The fact they have become taboo shows how stupid people are and why racism got started in the first place.
CowLunch 2 weeks ago
@CowLunch I'm not arguing against the fact that a large number of white kids have become engrossed in gang culture and started talking like black gangsters. But the fact that language even exists is because of an under-educated black population. Starkey talks as if this is some black plague that has infected whites, when in reality it is that white children are facing the same lack of education as blacks. Whether its their parents or schools failing them I don't know.
CowLunch 2 weeks ago
@CowLunch The point being made is that the poor and uneducated, regardless of skin clour, have adopted a gangster 'culture' that is black. I couldn't say how different white gangsterism might be, but the fact is that the attitude so frequently adopted by these rioter types has its origins in black gang communities. That is not to blame black immigration; we must recognise that blacks are not gangsters and that the riot is not the fault of black people.
Gustaveleloup 2 weeks ago
@Gustaveleloup i.e. the behaviour is not innate in black people; rather it's just a particularly nasty culture that has arisen.
195ashes 1 week ago
@CowLunch The nature of racism is unreasonable, sweeping generalisations.
While Starkey makes a valid point, he states it a dangerously broad fashion by which he means to incite uproar. He shouldn't call it 'black culture', but perhaps 'black gangster culture. Still, I wish the other guests on the show would let him speak.
Gustaveleloup 2 weeks ago
@Gustaveleloup Yes he does tend to overdramatise things.
CowLunch 2 weeks ago
@Gustaveleloup finally, somebody I agree with on this issue!
robsargent4 1 week ago
I was being sarcastic about toothbush moustaches.
Gustaveleloup 2 weeks ago
It was that damn language's fault. You might as well be saying Arabic is intrinsically evil and brings about regimes like Bashir Al Assad's.
swaaaa83 3 weeks ago
Funny thing is, hes right.
iSorrowproductions 3 weeks ago 16
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@iSorrowproductions A white person who loves their race and wants to see it survive into the future is deemed a "hater" "racist" "white supremacist" by the anti-white Establishment.
Meanwhile,the anti-white Establishment and its supporters are doing their best to eliminate white people via non-white immigration and "assimilation" yet they call themselves "Anti-racist" "tolerant" "benevolent" "moral".
Who can deny any of that? An anti-White might try
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
WhiteHussar83 2 weeks ago
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@iSorrowproductions How to identify if a commenter is anti-white and is inciting white genocide:
1) they deny there is such a thing as white people or white countries.
2) they scream about how evil white people are.
3) they justify white genocide using one of a thousand different reasons.
4) they wish for white genocide/celebrate it.
5) they say pro white dissidents should not be allowed to speak, because we are "evil".
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.
WhiteHussar83 2 weeks ago
@iSorrowproductions 1. Try to imagine how much brainwashing it would take to convince all the Asians living in Asia, that they need to go ahead and replace themselves (in Asia) with North African Muslims????
2. Now imagine that they were so totally mind conditioned and brainwashed. That they really believed it would be RACIST not to????
If you manage to do that: Welcome to the world of the white Anti-whites!
So my question is: Can anyone think of something dumber than a white Anti-white????
WhiteHussar83 2 weeks ago
Shows that in the old-school conservative members there is still a hard edge of racism.
Epeolatry1 3 weeks ago
David Starkey's just an over educated fat slob quoting bloody text talk....I have full respect for my human brothers and sisters no matter what colour they are, we are all equal and free on this land it's about time the government treated everyone that way maybe just maybe we would get on, on this lovely planet we call earth.
bondys123 3 weeks ago
David Starkey... my word. Knew he was a twat but this is quite an effort he's put in to make me think he's a bigger wanker than Nick Griffin. Didnt know it was possible.
jonnygillard 1 month ago
Thinks he's Enoch fucking Powell
samcottle 1 month ago
@Josh1000digby you rascist pig.
ollydude2007 1 month ago
My part of Yorkshire is losing it's dialect and identity thanks to many factors, natives selling out their culture for this spasticated urban gang shit being one.
godkingRoss 1 month ago
this isn't racist its observant im a doorman and i had a scrawny little white boy at my door a few weeks ago trying to get in the club, this wouldn't have been a problem if he wasn't dressed like something out of "menace 2 society" and when i turned him away he said " wa'eva blud im guna come back when you finnish and shank you" after which i proceeded to detain him for making a threat against my life and disturbance of the peace, but just goes to show how ridiculous this country is getting
Jimiriffman89 1 month ago
@Jimiriffman89 What's that got to do with race? The guy would've been a dick no matter how he spoke.
David Starkey is a fucking racist cunt.
Tedaus5 1 month ago
@Tedaus5 i agree he is a racist and a complete tool but i happen to agree with the fact that the american "gansta" image is glorified and rediculous in my experience its the white kids that are worse, the whole chavy wanabe tough guy image is a problem and needs to squashed.
and the example i gave is just one of many incidents of the same kind so yes he was a dick but he's not the only one i deal with countless amounts of ignorent idiots who think theyre black everyday
Jimiriffman89 1 month ago
@Jimiriffman89 How relevant are you? Menace to Society was over 20 years ago. Kids don't even dress or act like that anymore.
JayGriffinblaze 1 week ago
When he says black, does he mean nigger?
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Rheiana1 1 month ago
@si223 Boo, I'd rather you do not respond to me with such atrocities. Your disrespectful comment is very distasteful. Now, if you had any common sense, my statement simply meant that despite all the different races/ethnic groups that are present in the world; we are very much alike. There are too many issues; poverty, diseases, natural disasters... in this world for people to be concerned about David Starkey's biased and obviously prejucided views. so, you need to SHUT THE FUCK UP!
Racial Unity
Rheiana1 1 month ago
I think he's completely correct in his view, but could have perhaps been a little less subjective about it....
chapmasi 1 month ago
@chapmasi Rightly so, objectivity is key to any discussion.
Rheiana1 1 month ago
To be fair..
RichyBMelodies 1 month ago
THERE IS ONLY ONE RACE! THE HUMAN RACE!
Rheiana1 1 month ago
@Rheiana1 The 3-legged race?
si223 1 month ago
@si223 ??? Voy a fingir que no respondió con la basura total.
Rheiana1 1 month ago
No wonder this guy is a homosexual
HE'S A PAIN THE ARSE
Glaswegianmark 1 month ago
why the music? distracts and annoys
tonupnolid 1 month ago
Where are all the delicate little souls calling for Starkey to be sacked from his position for making a lazy racial generalization???
supahdupahguy81 1 month ago
What he should have said,and I think, was clumsely trying to, is that British kids ( of any colour) think American gang culture is cool. And that is a disaster.
SvenTviking 1 month ago
His argument is a poor one. And, it was racist.
aSunkeee 1 month ago
he's right,whites voice fades.Black,White,Oil,Water.
toxica61 1 month ago
The black kids looking up to american gangta rap is a real problem..Really sad thing to look up to
malt8291 1 month ago
@malt8291 fuck you and listen to tupac
jackblap 1 month ago
@jackblap i like good music not rappers,its a low art form
malt8291 1 month ago
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alot of teens in inner city areas choose to communicate in jamaican patios (yes black AND white) as much as the slang n jargon irritates me surely there are far deeper roots to the problem of violence than the particular way a person talks.
beefkilla 2 months ago
he is not a racist, true racism to me means wishing ill on a whole race or culture, his only wrong doing was seeing what hes seen on the street now and again as actual fact
gemmima81 2 months ago
I was actually watching this on tv as he was saying it and i do believe he is not a racist but he was misguided. there is a certain element of truth in what he was saying in that alot of white kids have adopted black youth gang speak but white kids have always formed there own gangs and slang and theres always been little scumbags in all cultures who given an oppotunity will put two fingers up to authority and society. he shouldnt have said what he said but that doesnt make him a racist.
gemmima81 2 months ago
He's right though. But thankfully it's only in England, not the rest of the UK
klassklassklass 2 months ago
I just cant stop laughing, this man is funny. PDB.
arjuna24able 2 months ago
Interestingly, there were no riots in Scotland, and Glasgow has a huge gang culture, so I think the idea of gang culture being a cause is a fallacy. Reports suggest it was down to poverty and a lack of any connection between the poor communities and the government.
The reason Scotland in particular was unaffected is because the SNP is generating real optimism and gives a positive message. They have spirit, rather than saying "we need this" or "we must do that"
CaptainQuo 2 months ago 2
Gang culture? Who was it that sent a massive gang of armed men into Iraq and Afghanistan?
You wanna talk about gang culture look directly to the politicians, they know ALL about it.
Nice one with the music. It made him look even more stupid.
ducksbumhole 2 months ago
To the person who uploaded this, what does it take to make you understand that it wasn't UK riots, it was English riots. Are you totally and completely thick or do you just like to offend the other UK nations?
beinndorainjames 2 months ago
@beinndorainjames No riots in Scotland?
NovaLibertasUK 2 months ago
@NovaLibertasUK No there weren't. None in Wales or Northern Ireland either.
Grazikon 2 months ago
Black people are over-represented in Prisons, why? And it is true that many of the white youth offenders are acting like black badmen. Gang Culture stems from the innate human need to feel part of a group. Therefore solution starts at home. E.g. Sikh and Hindu families are very close - none of them participated in the riots, coincidence?
DarkRavski 2 months ago
What is the stupid music supposed to add to this video?
mikelheron20 2 months ago
He's a funny old, chubby white nigger. Keep up the jokes, ya bloke.
DaFoxx28 2 months ago
David, is right. He is not being racist, just observant. He is purely stating observants, with valved points. I don't believe that chavs have infested American cities like they have infested a large about of major inner cities in England. Chav, standing for council houses and violence, are essentially the scrum of the earth, they hung in gangs, with hoods up, carrying weapons and huge dogs, to try and intimidate people and commit crime. They have no respect for the education system, political s
Sumonebody 2 months ago
Hes completely right, you dumb fucking liberal idiots too scared to be labelled racist are only keeping the dumb niggers down. So yeah go ahead and say hes talking shit...the problems will just never get solved, No skin of my nose lol.
dvarblo 2 months ago
somecunt shoot this old english bastard
madtamD 2 months ago
Annoying music!
seftonovich 2 months ago 2
He does not have the right, not to say this. So fuck the PC bandwagon. Enoch and Starkey were both right. The naive tards got from this "All Jamaicans are criminals". No, whats he's saying is, gang culture is a black thing. And white people have no identity in this hell hole country, so they are acting like black gangsters. Screw what out of touch politicians like Ed milipede and our biast media says.
BENJIMANBREEG33 2 months ago
@BENJIMANBREEG33 Were the Krays black? They had the police in their pocket.
Have you ever seen gangs of New York? Gang culture has ALWAYS been in major cities. London and New York have always had gang problems for hundreds of years.
ojideagu 2 months ago
@ojideagu Lol, did Starkey mention the Krays and are we talking about New York that is full of wigger, or do you mean the Mafia? What I meant to say is that the current gangs we have, is a black thing. Chavs and wiggers who tink dey r from da street. Its not even organised crime, they are just lowlife scum, they'll commit crime for no aparrent gain. And the way they talk, is fake, and definitely not an English accent.
BENJIMANBREEG33 2 months ago
@BENJIMANBREEG33 That accent, while it's annoying, IS now an official English accent. That's how language and accents evolve. Organised crime is every bit as bad as street thuggary. Whether it's the Mafia or the Krays. Unless you think extortion of local business people and shop owners with threats of violence is not equivalent to street mugging?
Victorian London was a crime ridden cess pool long before mass immigration.
London has always had a crime problem and gangs of thugs.
ojideagu 2 months ago
@ojideagu Its a fake accent. You see people talking with it, but when they're in a room of normal people, it starts to go. I've had a friend who adopted it, then it just went when he sorted his life out. The Krays or the Mafia weren't as low as the vermin we see today, they even had some good points. They wouldn't mug the elderly or disabled. So whats your point, cause there was crime in the past, mass immigration and this behaviour is justified?
BENJIMANBREEG33 2 months ago
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bang on..immature,uneducated,products of dysfunctional parenting;these kids gravitate to gangs and copy what they perceive as tough/cool,which they get from various media-TV,internet,etc.
velkom 2 months ago
@velkom And to make it worse, its just accepted. Then you get some clown like Owen Jones, who say its the result of the working class being let down. No, they are not working class people.
BENJIMANBREEG33 2 months ago
He has a little bit of knowledge and he thinks he knows the world
xxfaith0chickxx 2 months ago
lol dis guy's a dikhead
gforce12100 2 months ago
what's up with the music you syupid fucking pansy knob
SharinganTH14 2 months ago
He has a point ! too much intergration is causing a problem, simples.....
mark24875218 2 months ago
@mark24875218 I'm sure you'd rather be in a homogenous village shagging sheep
ojideagu 2 months ago
now i'm wondering what the fuck happened to my original comment. i can't find it.
Rabsputin 2 months ago
for those who missed the comment hammersmith80 left for me but quickly deleted because he's a fucking coward, here it is again:
"@Rabsputin No he's spot-on, go and iron your track suit bottoms and polish your white trainers you irksome piece of shit."
this is rich coming from a bottom feeder like you. starkey is a complete cunt, and given that you agree with him, this would make you a complete cunt. you and him are everything that's wrong with this place.
eat shit and die.
Rabsputin 2 months ago
@Rabsputin You haven't got the intelligence to take part in a meaningful debate and I'm no coward, I'm a realist and it's liberal pricks like you that are the ruination of the UK, gutter filth, all you can do is call me a cunt over and over, you are exactly the sort of cretin that people like me laugh at, as for the comment I removed I felt I let myself down with the language I used but the sentiment remains you're a lifeless thick dolt and anything I say on these pages I would say to your face.
Hammersmith80 2 months ago
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Hammersmith80 2 months ago
This shouldn't be about whether or not white people are adopting black culture. A mix of cultures is inevitable in a MULTICULTURAL society.
What I find offensive is that it's looked on as a negative thing. Starkey is quite clearly using this idea of black culture 'intruding' on all his perfect white children as an excuse for any white person involved.
The discussion of these riots needs to be moved away from racism, because it quite obviously involved both blacks and whites, young and old.
Zeflingg23 2 months ago
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Hammersmith80 2 months ago
@Hammersmith80 Thank you for demonstrating exactly my point. Yes, it's happened, but tell me why it's a bad thing. You can go on about it being 'poisonous', 'rebellious' whatever, but please enlighten me on how this could have possibly started the riots, which is what this is all about anyway.
And what is this about a 'warped sense of entitlement'? It's people like you need to stop hiding behind your disgusting generalizations and start justifying your opinion.
Zeflingg23 2 months ago
@Zeflingg23 I never said it started the riots and really I answer to noone least of all an internet dullard such as yourself. The bastardisation of the English language is one aspect of the moral decline in the UK. Starkey illustrates his point perfectly well. Poisonous and rebellious, yes absolutely - "innit" that word alone tells me the sort of uneducated fools that walk our streets.
Hammersmith80 2 months ago
Research Noel Ignatiev!
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MrFlibble2011 2 months ago
@MrFlibble2011 Lol, firstly. I am white. Secondly, you clearly haven't read the other comments on here that I've made to some of the others criticising Starkey. Thirdly, "he just hates shitskins" - that'd be like you then? Doesn't that just say it all. Fourthly, do you genuinely believe that suddenly pulling out of a region after 150 years of imperialism will not have serious consequences (remember what happened in Britain after the Romans)?
naishjam 2 months ago
so we're all turning' .... Jamaican?
one1byke 2 months ago
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MrFlibble2011 2 months ago
@MrFlibble2011 Sure, I'll even let you pick the factors you want me to use to define success...you know, providing they're not contradictory to the goal of identify "successful black countries" (e.g. you can't define success as being inversely proportional to the ratio of black people to overall population).
naishjam 2 months ago
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MrFlibble2011 2 months ago
@MrFlibble2011 Fifth, the West deliberately and repeatedly stirred up ethnic, tribal, religious and political tensions for our own advantage when it suited us. Afghanistan is just the most recent and best known example of this, but to name others: Sri Lanka, The Congo, Rwanda, India, Nigeria and Rhodesia. Now, we have tribal, ethnic and political tension across vast swathes of the African continent. You want to have a serious conversation? Then be prepared to try and understand the world.
naishjam 2 months ago
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MrFlibble2011 2 months ago
@MrFlibble2011 Like I said, I was waiting for you to tell me how you want me to interpret the word "success". Are we talking in terms of GDP, GDP per capita, life expectancy, child infancy, employment figures...?
naishjam 2 months ago
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MrFlibble2011 2 months ago
@MrFlibble2011 Well, doesn't that just sound like an ill-thought-out, throw-about phrase. And, you moron, I am white.
naishjam 2 months ago
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MrFlibble2011 2 months ago
@MrFlibble2011 I'm prepared to bet I'm significantly better educated, and qualified, than yourself.
naishjam 2 months ago
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MrFlibble2011 2 months ago
@MrFlibble2011 Oooh, someone's clearly got their PhD in English grammar. Come on then, where's the error? No, seriously. I'm keen to learn.
naishjam 2 months ago
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MrFlibble2011 2 months ago
@MrFlibble2011 He counts three, but identifies none.
naishjam 2 months ago
@MrFlibble2011 Ironic, also, that a man (I assume, given the pseudonym, that you are indeed a man) so up on his grammar should make such a rudimentary error as to utilise in a single sentence contradictory pronouns in reference to a single object.
naishjam 2 months ago
@MrFlibble2011 And wouldn't it just be, omfg hillarious, if it turned out that after your oh-so-scathing "professor" jibe it turned out that I actually happened to be a professor?
naishjam 2 months ago
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MrFlibble2011 2 months ago
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@MrFlibble2011 To clarify, the first error I counted in your post is in the following clause: "a person of your undoubted brilliance should spend your time more profitably". Here the phrase "a person of your undoubted brilliance" denotes the subject of the clause. This is actually indicative of the third, not the second, person and as such the correct pronoun to utilise in referring to the object ("your time") should actually also be the third person plural possessive ("their", not "your")...
naishjam 2 months ago
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@naishjam Naturally I'm assuming here that you intend for me personally to better utilise my own time, and not that someone else should better use my time on my behalf.
naishjam 2 months ago
@MrFlibble2011 "You can easily start a sentence as such so long that it is a simple sentence inversion technique where 'and' is heading a dependent clause". I assume you mean "so long as it is a simple sentence inversion"?
naishjam 2 months ago
@MrFlibble2011 I'll pre-empt a response to my own response. I will concede the following to have been posted in haste and thus not properly checked. It is a bit shitty: "And wouldn't it just be, omfg hillarious, if it turned out that after your oh-so-scathing "professor" jibe it turned out that I actually happened to be a professor?". To rephrase: "And wouldn't it be just, omfg hillarious, if after your oh-so-scathing "professor" jibe it turned out that I actually happened to be a professor?"
naishjam 2 months ago
also, it trikes me (sorry if anyone has touched on this before) that he is one of the few people not to follow most white's subconscious line of reasoning, he doesn't feel guilty about white/black history, because he is equipped with knowledge. Funny how when he attempts to make his point with those white guests present, their shutters simply come down and they protest out of fear. Sad that white people can't debate these issues any more without jumping on the P.C. bandwagon when it gets heated.
ursie1986 2 months ago
that music is really fucking distracting
ursie1986 2 months ago
Stereotypes exist for a reason. We are all a part of some culture, so we should'nt feel sorry for others being stereotyped, because every culture is stereotyped. you can't offend one culture and expect your culture to be lavished upon; something Muslims and Black people have gotten lost on aparantly. Part of being treated equally is being held reposnible for your actions, fact was most of the rioters were black.
MuonRay 2 months ago
@mugato316 Oh really? You will stab him? Actually? You will actually walk up and put a knife into Starkey's body? Go on then, and I'll laugh hard when I read about your sorry ass rotting in prison for life. You're just as much of a racist douchebag as Starkey and his little posse. Racism works both ways and phrases like "white prick" and "stupid white ppl" are just as racist as Starkey's moronic comments.
naishjam 2 months ago
A whole bunch of you are confusing 'Jamaican slang' with what is referred to as Multicultural London English and has an equal connection with Jamaican patois as it does Cockney dialects. You backwards haters are ten-a-penny as Mr. Starkey proven. and stretch from the educated to the uneducated. Innit is an English derived word. And regardless, how can linguistics start a riot ?
MBInbox92 2 months ago
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MrFlibble2011 2 months ago
Saying that rap music glorifies rioting is truly the ramblings of a man who clearly has been living in the same time period he's been glorifying on television for years. He's out of touch, out of our time period and is just doesn't understand half the things he's talking about, clearly. He's blatantly just said that black culture is corrupting white culture! The BBC will jump the gun at a presenter who makes any type of joke not on the script, yet they'll let a white guy be racist!
Limubi1 2 months ago 2
Like background music!
haberdasherswater 2 months ago
What David Starkley is wrong about is grouping "Black" culture with "Gangsta" culture. "Black" culture can refer to Fiji culture, it is a loose term and yet a volatile one.
fenderkid6 2 months ago
This buffoon knows if he is controversable he will get paid to appear (mostly)on the bbc.No-one should take him seriously as he knows nothing about modern britain ,the clown
tontobones 2 months ago
i think he means white people acting as they perceive black people, though he was racist
WINNIEG17 3 months ago
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Which Asian countries provide immigrants with racially discriminatory affirmative action programs, racial quotas, and free housing and healthcare, marginalizing their indigenous populations?
Which Asian country's media bombards its citizenry with multi-racial propaganda 24/7?
In which Asian countries would a woman be arrested for expressing the opinion her country was better off without mass immigration?
It's government-mandated population replacement. It's genocide against white people.
thespacialone 3 months ago
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"Blacks" and "Whites"... All of u r the same-foolish. This country has got a history of violence that can cover the distance between here and the moon. The 12th cent massacre of the Jews, the 16th ct. Evil May Days 'white' foreigners being persecuted, the Gordon riots and looting in the 18th cent. Whatever the reason for these civil unrests race is not the reason why people act in the way they do. You have to be an ignorant fool to believe all whites are racists and all balcks are gangsters.
junior2404 3 months ago
The UK really must be in a poor state - I actually find myself agreeing with Starkey for a change. Though he could have underlined that his point was not regarding race, rather gang culture - which is sometimes associated with the former.
rhidiandavies1991 3 months ago
The riots were started by blacks. Fact.
Lightf00t1 3 months ago