chip in what?? is what we are doing such a weapon that you want now and in the future to combat terror. Special Forces with cawboy revolvers, does not bring relief, when the king killed. killers kings have used a Mauser ... for now I do not envy the country that all this "mess" arranged.
Too bad this little puppy can't be imported to the U.S. as a carbine, just leave it as a standard length AK and make it semi-auto to comply with our laws. Would definitely buy one of those. But what I'd like to see the Russians do is make a variant of the Dragunov SVD that shoots the .50BMG round or something similar. The KSVK 12.5 is a badass sniper rifle, but I'd like to see 'em make something comparable to the Barrett M107, something semi-automatic and just about as accurate.
@GunRunner762R there is already an automatic rifle in 12,7x108mm, OSV-96. It's longer than barret, but is foldable in half for transport. The barrel is longer, it has 5 round magazine and the same kind of accuracy. The ASVK is a bullpup, bolt action rifle, much lighter shorter and slightly more accurate. The is a heavy variant of the SVD, called SVDK, it shoots 9,3x64mm rounds, (made in russia) with hardened core and match grade bullet. However the SVD would not support the 50 cal pressure.
Marine sniper? who the f is talking about marine snipers u deep shit...
and what makes u think that everyone talks bullshit eh? me my self i was born in Grozny... and u should know where that is if u really r 51 and u should know then what was what back in 90's...
P.S how the fuck would u know about Russian guns? ya used Romanian junk and compared to Russian quality? lol Poshel na xui! ;)))
Picatinny rail mounted to the Receiver Cover? I hope its reinforced or at least strongly mounted to the Receiver itself in order not to lose sight zero.
@Richenov dude i prefer 5.45x39 over 5.56...... any day! trust me the 5.45 is as good as 5.56 in long range! the numbers are very similar... but the fact will always be that 5.45 is deadlier! like u say 90 degree twists.... had a story from my dad that a shot in the shoulder can end up with an exit through the head... and another one shot in the stomach exit from the neck..... lmao that ain't no joke!....
@Richenov yeah lol anyways this is to those who dont know what is an AK74u....
AK74u is just a smaller version of the AK74!!!! like an M4 compared to an M16!!! even know i played cod4 for a long assssss time lol i think they are retards by making such a big mistake....
@Tippet76 It is not. In blowback operated firearms the only thing holding the bolt in place is its inertia. In gas operated weapons there are some lugs (or other devices) locking the bolt in place, and gas pressure (transmitted via an operating rod, or without the use of one) allows those lugs (or other devices) to disengage allowing the bolt to retreat.
@stridingshadow An action characterized by a system where the PRESSURE CREATED BY THE COMBUSTION OF THE CARTRIDGE forces the slide open when the firearm is fired and after firing, the weight of the hammer, slide, recoil spring, and other parts combine to return the slide to the closed position. No mechanical locking system is used; found in automatic and semi-automatic firearms.
If gas is being used to operate the system then no matter what locking devices are it should still be gas operated.
@Tippet76 Just saying 'it should' means that you're not sure. GAS OPERATED reloading is a system of operation where a portion of gases is used to power the weapon's mechanisms, the gases are obtained through a port in the barrel or a trap at the muzzle (the latter is deemed obsolete nowadays). Blowback operated firearms have no gas ports in the barrel, and no gas traps, they don't have gas tubes. Before arguing please go to and read some stuff on the matter.
@stridingshadow I was running out of characters to write. I was trying to phrase it more as a question than a statement. The last post that you wrote on the system clears it up.
@Tippet76 Thank you. I recommend some articles on the English Wiki (they're not very detailed but still give you an idea), if you want to discuss the reliability issues related to shortening gas systems, that can be done in private.
OK... lets see what other weapon...(AK variant) they're going to come up with. These guys lack creativity, everything is an AK47 refit to fire a different round, how crappy.
@ScopedOUT2 What?! We lack creativity?.. Then look at your crappy M4 series! All of these guns are based on the old M16, they just shortened. Even the HK416 and the Bushmaster ACR are based on the old M16! So who lack creativity?
@DeckerBens I'm American, but have to agree with you, These weapons are based on the Kalashnikov, but so what? The AK, is an excellent and reliable weapon... this is just adding more versatility to the design... as for the M16/M4 series, as a former serviceman and user of both these weapons, I can truly say, it's time for a replacement... hopefully something in a heavier caliber.
@TroubleMan21C That's right about heavier caliber. Have you heard about M4 6.8? This gun combines the power of the old-good AK-47 and M4A1 accuracy by 6.8 caliber. But it's still not an innovation, and the M4 is not a reliable weapon so the United States need to change their mentality and stop buying M4 on non-competitive basis.
Well, if you need some competition SOCOM has just stoped SCAR Mk16 purchase in favor of M4. This however isn't an indicator of M4's superiority, it shows SCAR is not THAT MUCH better and they wanted to avoid mess with logistics - one model is better than 2 from this point of view.
Also this will not stop purchase of heavier hitting Mk17 SCARs.
@DeckerBens I own 2 Kalashnikovs and 2 AR15/M4s. The M4 is not as unreliable as people say, they are very very reliable weapons. They aren't as reliable as a Kalashnikov but I can't think of any weapons that are.
The HK 416 is definitely based on the M16/AR-15 platform. You must be thinking of the XM8, which is AR-18 based. I can't speak to that of the ACR, as I don't know too much about them.
@cauberallies I find your lack of faith disturbing. The H&K G36 is a development of the Armalite AR-18. The H&K 416 is just a G36 fitted into an M16 receiver (the lowers are actually interchangeable). The operating principle in the AR-18, G36, H&K416 and XM8 is short stroke piston rotating bolt. The operating principle of the M16 is direct impingement rotating bolt. The 416 may be compatible with M16 parts, but it doesn't make it based on the M16 (some M16 parts can be fitted to AK-47s as well)
@ScopedOUT2 It's not about creativity, it's about training. This SMG doesn't have the same mechanics as the AK (the is gas operated with a rotating bolt and a long-stroke piston, this one here is simple blowback). For the same reasons the US military adopted several M16 versions (from DMRs to SBRs) and some M16 look-alikes (like the Colt SMG) to simplify weapon training.
@InRUSSIAweTRUST First: the AKS-74U actually fires a smaller calibre.
Second: the bizon was intended more for a PDW, the helical mags are pricy and cumbersome to wear and reload,
Third: the Russians greatly emphasise on limiting overpenetration in urban ops, until before Vityaz, their SWAT teams would use mostly 9x18mm Makarov chambered machine pistols.
i dont get it, the aks 74u has the same caliber as the ak74 assault rifle, ok and i see that the sn is more adapted to swat teams because lots of gadgets are mountable to it ok. on the other side, the ak has proven for years ,where the sn is new and no one knows how reliable it will be...
@InRUSSIAweTRUST As I wrote in another post: the Russians emphasise on avoiding overpenetration in urban ops. This SMG was devised for use by the Vityaz antiterror group (Vityaz mean 'Knight' in Russian). It will be as reliable as any blowback operated weapon, that is perfectly reliable (UZI, MAC M-10, Thompson M1A1, PPSh-41, H&K UMP and many other SMGs are blowback operated).
You see, Vityaz is one of the rare (if not the only one) arms made on demand and specifications of it's future users (special units in this case). It's purpouse made for police operations where 5.45 round of AKSU turns out to be overpowered - it could hit not just terorist, but also things behind him, including hostages. Therefore SMG with pistol is more preferable than shortened assault rifle/carbine.
And buy, buy to that "Russian don't need magwell" crap. 8D
k man thanx but youve put up some good videos of russian small arms its hard to find vids of the newest "toys" coming outta russia so thanx for the vids.
Since the MP5 and the Vityaz are using the same ammo, one can expect the same effective range. Maximum range of 150 m for a firearm that is chambered in 9x19? That was a good one. Besides, the ergonomics and overall quality of the MP5 clearly beat that of the Vityaz. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to make the Vityaz look bad, but it is not the supergun that commercial wants you to believe.
well see the official max range of the vityaz and the bizon is 200 meters thats the max range not the effective range! the effective range of the Vityaz is superior 2 MP5's.... all the research i did it proved so! and what did u mean about ergonomics and quality? its basically an Ak version of the smg cuz thats what it is. and there is nothing surprising in 200 meters for the 9mm its pretty much capable of going further look at the VSS sniper it uses a heavier 9mm max range around 400m
Oh my. Dude, the MAXIMUM range for 9x19 firearms is about 1 mile. Yes, that's ca. 1600 m. This is what you get when firing at 32°. The effective range for two firearms firing the SAME ammo and having about the SAME barrel length will be the SAME. Read some books on ballistics and shoot the weapons yourself instead of listening to manufacturer's commercials. What do I mean ba ergonomics and quality? As I said, shoot the weapons, compare them and see for yourself.
No. But I've handled some AK's so I can compare. And I'd prefer the MP5 series anytime over any AK spin-off. So the next simple question is, did you ever handled an MP5?
how can u compare an AKS with Vityaz? I personally dont compare different caliber guns 2 each other i think thats wrong! and the answer 2 the question is no! but 4 me 2 argue on someone elses tastes it would be ignorant man, so i wont even argue here its ur taste and thats what makes u and my taste is what makes me so i guess lets end it here lol i see this pointless :)))))))))
Do not argue with he Omsbon the idiot And other American he tried to prove to me that 5,56x45 has equal with 7,62x39 penetration through trees and bricks. Look the comment on my channel :-)
lol nu kak vidish ia i tak ne sporu tut bolshe :)))) no koneshno udar u 7.62x39 kalibra na mnogo moshnee chem u 5.56x45 kalibra no kak znau 7.62x39 teriaet silu v dalnoi strelbe kak ona sama tiazholaia pulia...... no effektivnaia do gdeto 500/700 metrov kak ia dumau dostatochno dlia boia s Avtomatom! esli bolshe to koneshno nuzhna snaipersskaia vintovka... but still id go with 7.62x39 :))))))) or lets say AK-103 than any other gun.......
Btw, an effective range of 400m for the VSS is rather optimistically. A maximum 200 m is what users (those, who ACTUALLY shot the gun) say. Any ballistic calculator will tell you the same. Just look at the trajectory.
by the looks of it u r the one reading books dude :P ive seen the capability of the VSS sniper my self so i dont have 2 take anyones word 4 it and also i didnt say the effective range of 400m i said the max range and i think there is a difference dont u? and the official effective range on the VSS is 100/200m yes ;) Said by the Russian military! but as i know it is capable of doing better!
Yes, I read books. That's what make you smart. Speaking of maximum range of a 9x39 gun, I bet my year's salary, that it will exceed 1500 m. Your turn.
well yeah they do my friend but still they r written by a man! so the talk here is not only about the bullets distance. So why do u think these people who make guns they put an effective range and the max range distances on all of these guns? and what does the max range mean when its meant for those guns? i think there was a lil misunderstanding here ;) of course the bullet can travel far with enough power and not 2 mention it does depend on the weather 2
I don't know what comparisation you just made, but the gun you mentioned of 400m effective range, is the M4/M16. That is a 5.56 bullet, this is a 9mm...
Btw, an effective range of 400m for the VSS is rather optimistically. A maximum 200 m is what users (those, who ACTUALLY shot the gun) say. Any ballistic calculator will tell you the same. Just look at the trajectory.
That is what you first posted, and then read my post again.
Omsbon You the idiot vss has an effective range 400m his sight is adapted for 400m it means: the direct shot amazes a target on a distance 400m (a sight in a breast amaze a breast) on a distance 600m a sight in a head amaze a stomach
У АК прицел на 1000 м рассчитан, и что? Уверенно поражаем цель на 1000 м? Далбайоп ты мужик, ей богу. Забей баллистические данные в калкулятор и посмотри на траекторию, а потом пизди про эффективную дальность. Или просто поговори с людьми, которые пользовались сабжем.
heres a posible name for a variation
the PP-19M bison
TF2playerwhohateCOD 2 months ago
So are they going to import these into the US or not? That's the rumor but I suspect if they did the barrels would be carbine length.
sadeyedangel 3 months ago
0.06 a fucking homo ahahhaha lol
MrEngineerNasa 4 months ago
chip in what?? is what we are doing such a weapon that you want now and in the future to combat terror. Special Forces with cawboy revolvers, does not bring relief, when the king killed. killers kings have used a Mauser ... for now I do not envy the country that all this "mess" arranged.
apryc82 4 months ago
If a AKs-74u and an MP-5 had a baby this is what it would look like.
wild50gunner 4 months ago
@wild50gunner yes i agree :D
rondyrow 3 months ago
Heckler & Kock has a baby with Kalashnikov!
JizzMilk 5 months ago
Who doesn't want a gun like this in a parts kit? ;-)
AssassinKid0 6 months ago
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AssassinKid0 6 months ago
The Vityaz SN and the Vityaz PP-19 is the same gun??
Thnx...
Sarge9494 8 months ago
Too bad this little puppy can't be imported to the U.S. as a carbine, just leave it as a standard length AK and make it semi-auto to comply with our laws. Would definitely buy one of those. But what I'd like to see the Russians do is make a variant of the Dragunov SVD that shoots the .50BMG round or something similar. The KSVK 12.5 is a badass sniper rifle, but I'd like to see 'em make something comparable to the Barrett M107, something semi-automatic and just about as accurate.
GunRunner762R 9 months ago
@GunRunner762R they kinda did, search dragunov svdk its 9.3x64mm
theronguard855 7 months ago
@GunRunner762R there is already an automatic rifle in 12,7x108mm, OSV-96. It's longer than barret, but is foldable in half for transport. The barrel is longer, it has 5 round magazine and the same kind of accuracy. The ASVK is a bullpup, bolt action rifle, much lighter shorter and slightly more accurate. The is a heavy variant of the SVD, called SVDK, it shoots 9,3x64mm rounds, (made in russia) with hardened core and match grade bullet. However the SVD would not support the 50 cal pressure.
PATRONSKiii 5 months ago
@PATRONSKiii i tried finding the QSV but i cant find it anywhere online
also i mightve seen it. is it chinese or russian?
XxSgTgERMAnxX 5 months ago
What's the weight of it? It looks pretty light
coolhca 9 months ago
Marine sniper? who the f is talking about marine snipers u deep shit...
and what makes u think that everyone talks bullshit eh? me my self i was born in Grozny... and u should know where that is if u really r 51 and u should know then what was what back in 90's...
P.S how the fuck would u know about Russian guns? ya used Romanian junk and compared to Russian quality? lol Poshel na xui! ;)))
enamoev 10 months ago 10
must buy,,must use item....a 5 star rating for me
MrRider117 10 months ago
i like Russians MP5+AK mix crazy cool:)))
SlavaSvarogu 11 months ago
this just prove that Russian make kick ass weapons I love it a 9mm ak
kingd3001 11 months ago
Picatinny rail mounted to the Receiver Cover? I hope its reinforced or at least strongly mounted to the Receiver itself in order not to lose sight zero.
DeusMalleus 1 year ago
@Richenov 5.45 Nato? Are you high? Is the 7.62x54R nato as well?
crest2598 1 year ago
@Richenov 5.45 isn't a nato round :3
Panzervagon 1 year ago
@Richenov Most of what you said is true. Except that the 5.45 is not a NATO round.
a2birdcage 1 year ago
@Richenov dude i prefer 5.45x39 over 5.56...... any day! trust me the 5.45 is as good as 5.56 in long range! the numbers are very similar... but the fact will always be that 5.45 is deadlier! like u say 90 degree twists.... had a story from my dad that a shot in the shoulder can end up with an exit through the head... and another one shot in the stomach exit from the neck..... lmao that ain't no joke!....
enamoev 1 year ago
@enamoev This like reading from one big liar that feels he need to tell one bigger lie larger that the last liar !
Like hay dude I'm a liar to dude too and I blowed up the moon with my Big bad AK 47 hows dat dude ! LOL !!
Moldovawineimporter 10 months ago
@Moldovawineimporter uza a fucking retard!!! he served in Afghan war... enough said!
enamoev 10 months ago
@enamoev Like every homeless person on the street claims to be a Marine sniper !
Biggest lie today are worthess punks claiming to be war vets because they play video war games .
Moldovawineimporter 10 months ago
@Richenov yeah lol anyways this is to those who dont know what is an AK74u....
AK74u is just a smaller version of the AK74!!!! like an M4 compared to an M16!!! even know i played cod4 for a long assssss time lol i think they are retards by making such a big mistake....
enamoev 1 year ago
@Richenov those are the kids who play COD4 and and think that AK-74u is an smg..... 74u is classed as a carbine!
enamoev 1 year ago 14
@enamoev I hate all of the COD Fanboys out there that think they know everything about weapons because they are in a damn video game!! ;)
SammyLBusby 1 year ago
First gun
You fucking asshols
THIS IS RUSSIAN AKS-74U MADE BY MIHAIL KALASHNIKOV IN 1974 !
alexandrvasi 1 year ago
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First gun
You fucking asshols
THIS IS RUSSIAN AKS-74U MADE BY MIHAIL KALASHNIKOV IN 1974 !
alexandrvasi 1 year ago
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alexandrvasi 1 year ago
Awesome what a tactical weapon
SoulRipper66 1 year ago
how much cost this gun?
germany2010ful 1 year ago
Chamber this in tokarev and you got a best seller!
Omnignosis 1 year ago
dont fuck with russia
iloveslipknot333 1 year ago
Shortening gas operated weapons makes them far less reliable. That's why the MP5 is the best sub in the world.
Tippet76 1 year ago
@Tippet76 The MP5 isn't gas operated, it's roller-delayed blowback. It has no gas piston or gas tube.
Turkalj 1 year ago
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@Turkalj I know it's not gas operated. Is English your second language or something?
Tippet76 1 year ago
@Tippet76 You've got a revelation coming, the Vityaz S-N isn't gas operated either, it's simple blowback ;)
stridingshadow 1 year ago
@stridingshadow Blowback is a version of gas operated my friend.
Tippet76 1 year ago
@Tippet76 It is not. In blowback operated firearms the only thing holding the bolt in place is its inertia. In gas operated weapons there are some lugs (or other devices) locking the bolt in place, and gas pressure (transmitted via an operating rod, or without the use of one) allows those lugs (or other devices) to disengage allowing the bolt to retreat.
stridingshadow 1 year ago
@stridingshadow An action characterized by a system where the PRESSURE CREATED BY THE COMBUSTION OF THE CARTRIDGE forces the slide open when the firearm is fired and after firing, the weight of the hammer, slide, recoil spring, and other parts combine to return the slide to the closed position. No mechanical locking system is used; found in automatic and semi-automatic firearms.
If gas is being used to operate the system then no matter what locking devices are it should still be gas operated.
Tippet76 1 year ago
@Tippet76 Just saying 'it should' means that you're not sure. GAS OPERATED reloading is a system of operation where a portion of gases is used to power the weapon's mechanisms, the gases are obtained through a port in the barrel or a trap at the muzzle (the latter is deemed obsolete nowadays). Blowback operated firearms have no gas ports in the barrel, and no gas traps, they don't have gas tubes. Before arguing please go to and read some stuff on the matter.
stridingshadow 1 year ago
@Tippet76 Honestly and meaning no offense, there is no shame in being wrong, There's only shame in being wrong AND arguing about it.
stridingshadow 1 year ago
@stridingshadow I was running out of characters to write. I was trying to phrase it more as a question than a statement. The last post that you wrote on the system clears it up.
Tippet76 1 year ago
@Tippet76 Thank you. I recommend some articles on the English Wiki (they're not very detailed but still give you an idea), if you want to discuss the reliability issues related to shortening gas systems, that can be done in private.
stridingshadow 1 year ago
GALIL is better.
gapanlilio33 1 year ago
русские оружэя самые лутшие
melgd23 1 year ago
OK... lets see what other weapon...(AK variant) they're going to come up with. These guys lack creativity, everything is an AK47 refit to fire a different round, how crappy.
ScopedOUT2 1 year ago
@ScopedOUT2 What?! We lack creativity?.. Then look at your crappy M4 series! All of these guns are based on the old M16, they just shortened. Even the HK416 and the Bushmaster ACR are based on the old M16! So who lack creativity?
DeckerBens 1 year ago
@DeckerBens I'm American, but have to agree with you, These weapons are based on the Kalashnikov, but so what? The AK, is an excellent and reliable weapon... this is just adding more versatility to the design... as for the M16/M4 series, as a former serviceman and user of both these weapons, I can truly say, it's time for a replacement... hopefully something in a heavier caliber.
TroubleMan21C 1 year ago
@TroubleMan21C That's right about heavier caliber. Have you heard about M4 6.8? This gun combines the power of the old-good AK-47 and M4A1 accuracy by 6.8 caliber. But it's still not an innovation, and the M4 is not a reliable weapon so the United States need to change their mentality and stop buying M4 on non-competitive basis.
DeckerBens 1 year ago
@DeckerBens
Well, if you need some competition SOCOM has just stoped SCAR Mk16 purchase in favor of M4. This however isn't an indicator of M4's superiority, it shows SCAR is not THAT MUCH better and they wanted to avoid mess with logistics - one model is better than 2 from this point of view.
Also this will not stop purchase of heavier hitting Mk17 SCARs.
SwineNahNah 1 year ago
@DeckerBens I own 2 Kalashnikovs and 2 AR15/M4s. The M4 is not as unreliable as people say, they are very very reliable weapons. They aren't as reliable as a Kalashnikov but I can't think of any weapons that are.
Turkalj 1 year ago
@Turkalj the reliability and accuracy issues of both weapons are often blown out of proportion.
purplecurtisimo 1 year ago
@DeckerBens FYI: The H&K 416 and ACR are based on the AR-18, not the M16.
stridingshadow 1 year ago
@stridingshadow
The HK 416 is definitely based on the M16/AR-15 platform. You must be thinking of the XM8, which is AR-18 based. I can't speak to that of the ACR, as I don't know too much about them.
cauberallies 1 year ago
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stridingshadow 1 year ago
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@cauberallies I find your lack of faith disturbing. The H&K G36 is a development of the Armalite AR-18. The H&K 416 is just a G36 fitted into an M16 receiver (the lowers are actually interchangeable). The operating principle in the AR-18, G36, H&K416 and XM8 is short stroke piston rotating bolt. The operating principle of the M16 is direct impingement rotating bolt. The 416 may be compatible with M16 parts, but it doesn't make it based on the M16 (some M16 parts can be fitted to AK-47s as well)
stridingshadow 1 year ago
@ScopedOUT2 coming from an american, that doesent mean much.
purplecurtisimo 1 year ago
@ScopedOUT2 It's not about creativity, it's about training. This SMG doesn't have the same mechanics as the AK (the is gas operated with a rotating bolt and a long-stroke piston, this one here is simple blowback). For the same reasons the US military adopted several M16 versions (from DMRs to SBRs) and some M16 look-alikes (like the Colt SMG) to simplify weapon training.
stridingshadow 1 year ago
The MP5 for Russia, from Russia....
kertaspaper94 1 year ago
it looks like an AK-74u
Jackal9911 1 year ago
great as always, russians make best guns in the world!
4CaHeK 2 years ago 24
o4en horoschee takticheskoje aruschije
dla raboti v sdanijax.
JOHNRAMBO19920124 2 years ago
why dont they use the bizon or aksu 74.
its short and has a large caliber, would be enough for police operations
InRUSSIAweTRUST 2 years ago
aksu 74 have to big caliber, Bison is very expensive
Modest1758 2 years ago
@InRUSSIAweTRUST First: the AKS-74U actually fires a smaller calibre.
Second: the bizon was intended more for a PDW, the helical mags are pricy and cumbersome to wear and reload,
Third: the Russians greatly emphasise on limiting overpenetration in urban ops, until before Vityaz, their SWAT teams would use mostly 9x18mm Makarov chambered machine pistols.
stridingshadow 1 year ago
@stridingshadow
i dont get it, the aks 74u has the same caliber as the ak74 assault rifle, ok and i see that the sn is more adapted to swat teams because lots of gadgets are mountable to it ok. on the other side, the ak has proven for years ,where the sn is new and no one knows how reliable it will be...
InRUSSIAweTRUST 1 year ago
@InRUSSIAweTRUST As I wrote in another post: the Russians emphasise on avoiding overpenetration in urban ops. This SMG was devised for use by the Vityaz antiterror group (Vityaz mean 'Knight' in Russian). It will be as reliable as any blowback operated weapon, that is perfectly reliable (UZI, MAC M-10, Thompson M1A1, PPSh-41, H&K UMP and many other SMGs are blowback operated).
stridingshadow 1 year ago
why put a drum on it, that throws balance off, its bulky, and very heavy, no point at all to carry drums.
zooders 2 years ago
pp-19 BIzon.......
smoraptor 2 years ago
You just need to open your mouth when firing... :)
peti89n 2 years ago
ummm....no, lol. doesnt work dumbass, trust me i know
zooders 2 years ago
Its just like a G 36 duh....
aLanZo121 2 years ago
its a blowback smg not a assault rifle
tcbat711 2 years ago
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aLanZo121 2 years ago
Bizon Kicks Ass
Quicksilver4991 2 years ago
this owns mp5 's )
lynette1953 2 years ago 25
@lynette1953 Some MP5 fanboys might take offense at that, but you are quite correct.
varanid9 1 year ago
@lynette1953 How do you figure that if I may ask? There's hardly any difference in overall effictiveness between the two
porrsmurfen 7 months ago
i think russia doesnt really need these small arms, ´they should stick to the AKSU 74.
its good enough and has a larger calliber.
probably more reliable.
InRUSSIAweTRUST 2 years ago
sounds like those talks that RKKA can fight only with mosin-nagant rifles.
protfl 2 years ago
yes, but its good research
Noahwig 2 years ago
This weapon is good for police, and Specnaz...
ComradPaco 2 years ago
You see, Vityaz is one of the rare (if not the only one) arms made on demand and specifications of it's future users (special units in this case). It's purpouse made for police operations where 5.45 round of AKSU turns out to be overpowered - it could hit not just terorist, but also things behind him, including hostages. Therefore SMG with pistol is more preferable than shortened assault rifle/carbine.
And buy, buy to that "Russian don't need magwell" crap. 8D
SwineNahNah 2 years ago
A very proficent and professional weapon
MinisterKGB 2 years ago 6
I Agree! )))))
enamoev 2 years ago
I guess he's replying to my comment ;). I suggest spets to read my comments again, he may find some statements that explain my position.
Omsbon 3 years ago
Thank you for putting up this video! I wish Izmash would bring over a 9mmP AK carbine for sale in US.
TurbineDogSevenFour 3 years ago
i dunno dude but i can find out if u like ;) and ill get back 2 ya
enamoev 3 years ago
do you know if there are any izhmash videos of the ak-107/108 or any vids of the los-7-1 rifle
meatyclaws 3 years ago
na man no vids about the 107/08 on the Official site and nothing about the los either
enamoev 3 years ago
k man thanx but youve put up some good videos of russian small arms its hard to find vids of the newest "toys" coming outta russia so thanx for the vids.
meatyclaws 3 years ago
thank you for ur appreciation :))))))))
enamoev 3 years ago
Watch my "Izhmash guns on the range" video, there you can shortly see the AK-107 at 0:22.
Omsbon 3 years ago
i wanna see an ak-107 with those new foregrips and the top reciever rail it would look awsome
meatyclaws 3 years ago
wow i guess the Vityaz-SN is a lil bit better than MP5 hehe
Vityaz-SN = rounds per min are meant 2 be 700/750 and effective range of 100m to 200m
where the MP5 = around 800 rounds per min and with an effective range of 25 to 100 meters and a max range of 150 meters
enamoev 3 years ago
Since the MP5 and the Vityaz are using the same ammo, one can expect the same effective range. Maximum range of 150 m for a firearm that is chambered in 9x19? That was a good one. Besides, the ergonomics and overall quality of the MP5 clearly beat that of the Vityaz. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to make the Vityaz look bad, but it is not the supergun that commercial wants you to believe.
Omsbon 3 years ago
well see the official max range of the vityaz and the bizon is 200 meters thats the max range not the effective range! the effective range of the Vityaz is superior 2 MP5's.... all the research i did it proved so! and what did u mean about ergonomics and quality? its basically an Ak version of the smg cuz thats what it is. and there is nothing surprising in 200 meters for the 9mm its pretty much capable of going further look at the VSS sniper it uses a heavier 9mm max range around 400m
enamoev 3 years ago
Oh my. Dude, the MAXIMUM range for 9x19 firearms is about 1 mile. Yes, that's ca. 1600 m. This is what you get when firing at 32°. The effective range for two firearms firing the SAME ammo and having about the SAME barrel length will be the SAME. Read some books on ballistics and shoot the weapons yourself instead of listening to manufacturer's commercials. What do I mean ba ergonomics and quality? As I said, shoot the weapons, compare them and see for yourself.
Omsbon 3 years ago
ok simple question then have u shot the Vityaz?!?!?!?!
enamoev 3 years ago
No. But I've handled some AK's so I can compare. And I'd prefer the MP5 series anytime over any AK spin-off. So the next simple question is, did you ever handled an MP5?
Omsbon 3 years ago
how can u compare an AKS with Vityaz? I personally dont compare different caliber guns 2 each other i think thats wrong! and the answer 2 the question is no! but 4 me 2 argue on someone elses tastes it would be ignorant man, so i wont even argue here its ur taste and thats what makes u and my taste is what makes me so i guess lets end it here lol i see this pointless :)))))))))
enamoev 3 years ago
Do not argue with he Omsbon the idiot And other American he tried to prove to me that 5,56x45 has equal with 7,62x39 penetration through trees and bricks. Look the comment on my channel :-)
KOSTIAN242 2 years ago
Uh-huh. Where exactly did I say the .223 equals the M43 in terms of penetration?
Omsbon 2 years ago
lol nu kak vidish ia i tak ne sporu tut bolshe :)))) no koneshno udar u 7.62x39 kalibra na mnogo moshnee chem u 5.56x45 kalibra no kak znau 7.62x39 teriaet silu v dalnoi strelbe kak ona sama tiazholaia pulia...... no effektivnaia do gdeto 500/700 metrov kak ia dumau dostatochno dlia boia s Avtomatom! esli bolshe to koneshno nuzhna snaipersskaia vintovka... but still id go with 7.62x39 :))))))) or lets say AK-103 than any other gun.......
enamoev 2 years ago
Such as he I name the soldier of the keyboard. Basically they lonely people (irritable, aggressive) years sitting on forums. YES HE PRO:-)
KOSTIAN242 2 years ago
@KOSTIAN242 Actually, depending on bullet weight, that is quite possible, as 5.56 has better cross-sectional density.
varanid9 1 year ago
So basically you are talking out of your ass since you never used the gun...
spets 3 years ago
Btw, an effective range of 400m for the VSS is rather optimistically. A maximum 200 m is what users (those, who ACTUALLY shot the gun) say. Any ballistic calculator will tell you the same. Just look at the trajectory.
Omsbon 3 years ago
by the looks of it u r the one reading books dude :P ive seen the capability of the VSS sniper my self so i dont have 2 take anyones word 4 it and also i didnt say the effective range of 400m i said the max range and i think there is a difference dont u? and the official effective range on the VSS is 100/200m yes ;) Said by the Russian military! but as i know it is capable of doing better!
enamoev 3 years ago
Yes, I read books. That's what make you smart. Speaking of maximum range of a 9x39 gun, I bet my year's salary, that it will exceed 1500 m. Your turn.
Omsbon 3 years ago
well yeah they do my friend but still they r written by a man! so the talk here is not only about the bullets distance. So why do u think these people who make guns they put an effective range and the max range distances on all of these guns? and what does the max range mean when its meant for those guns? i think there was a lil misunderstanding here ;) of course the bullet can travel far with enough power and not 2 mention it does depend on the weather 2
enamoev 3 years ago
I don't know what comparisation you just made, but the gun you mentioned of 400m effective range, is the M4/M16. That is a 5.56 bullet, this is a 9mm...
OgamerNL 2 years ago
Pardon me, but I don't get what you are talking about.
Omsbon 2 years ago
Btw, an effective range of 400m for the VSS is rather optimistically. A maximum 200 m is what users (those, who ACTUALLY shot the gun) say. Any ballistic calculator will tell you the same. Just look at the trajectory.
That is what you first posted, and then read my post again.
OgamerNL 2 years ago
I did. Still don't get what you want.
Omsbon 2 years ago
Omsbon You the idiot vss has an effective range 400m his sight is adapted for 400m it means: the direct shot amazes a target on a distance 400m (a sight in a breast amaze a breast) on a distance 600m a sight in a head amaze a stomach
KOSTIAN242 2 years ago
У АК прицел на 1000 м рассчитан, и что? Уверенно поражаем цель на 1000 м? Далбайоп ты мужик, ей богу. Забей баллистические данные в калкулятор и посмотри на траекторию, а потом пизди про эффективную дальность. Или просто поговори с людьми, которые пользовались сабжем.
Omsbon 2 years ago
послушай долбоеб не путай прицельную дальность с прямым выстрелом, 1000м у ак74 для подавляющего огня отделения
KOSTIAN242 2 years ago
Жжошъ. Аццкий сотона, Вы, товарищ. Пеши исчо, поднимишь мне настроение.
Omsbon 2 years ago
омсдоша почетайте устав тактика бойца в составе отделения
KOSTIAN242 2 years ago
ак74 не оружие личной самообороны :-)
KOSTIAN242 2 years ago
установка 1000м сарай с аццк абздон група А обход с фланга Б подавляющий огонь;-)
KOSTIAN242 2 years ago
Aй, молодец. Слышь, ты это, открой тему на Ганзе и скомпилируй туда свои перлы, я там чаще присутсвую. A то я заебусь сюда заглядывать.
ПыСы: перевод "поражает" как "amazes" - это жесть. Учи английский, педрила.
Omsbon 2 years ago
ты хамло тупое не понял что это был юмор(сарказм) ? ну тогда заберай калькулятор и сьяб в ужасе на ганзу !!
KOSTIAN242 2 years ago
я стрелял из винтореза ясно хамло
KOSTIAN242 2 years ago
:))))) esli dazhe ono Xamlo to Xamlo kotoraia delaet svou robotu zamechatelno ;))))))
enamoev 2 years ago
Хуй ты сосал. Покажи мне видео, как ты из ВСС мишень на 400 м поражаешь и не еби мне мозги.
Omsbon 2 years ago
показать? может тебе залупу мою показать!! ;-D ну ладно кООнчита вот те для подумать
watch?v=IbB__F-nd1Q&feature=channel_page
KOSTIAN242 2 years ago
Нет, друг, не уходи от темы. Покажи мне видео, где ты, гандон, попадаешь из ВСС на 400 м.
Omsbon 2 years ago
@KOSTIAN242 How quiet was the vintorez?
varanid9 1 year ago
Yeah same :) its like a lil mini AK haha :) kinda reminds me of mp5 i wonder which one is better?!?!?!?!?!
enamoev 3 years ago