as a cousin of a MALIGNANT BRAIN TUMOR survivor, i must say i am appalled by this lady's comments, its quite obvious she is all about "me-my problem-my-health" she is obviously making stories up as she goes. she is a selfish bitch....
My cousin had her surgery in less than 3 weeks (17 days) from the time she went to see the specialist. Am i saying the system is flawless? fuck no, it could be improved look at the BRITISH health! but is it better than what USA has?......HELL FUCKING YEAH IT IS.!
A Rathke's Cleft Cyst IS NOT CANCER. It is NOT LIFE THREATENING! America is the ONLY modern nation or Wester nation WITHOUT a universal health care system. America is the only country where the amount of money you have determines if you will be able to afford life saving surgery or die from without it. She is a worthless liar.
@mccommas2 She had a benign cyst Even if she waited 4 years, instead of 4 week (as she did at the Mayo Clinic too) for surgery, it made absolutely no difference The only way she would die is if she walked in front of a bus. An American who had the same thing and couldn't come with $100,000 would never have the surgery until they got Medicare to have the surgery. Sounds like a 30 year waiting list in the US to me.
Stupid americans deserve to be lied to, just keep handing your money over to the rich! Clever americans know that a fully universal system is better for everyone.
I am an Ontario resident. I had a seizure. Went to an ER on a Sunday. Had all the tests. They found two large tumouurs (non cancerous). Met the chief neuro surgeonn on Monday. He wanted to do surgery next day. I said no until I could check him out and get a second opinion. My family and I finally agreed on surgery and it was done at the end of the week. All covered by O.H.I.P. (Ontario insuance ). All the brain surgery people I have met in rehab have told me they have had similar care to mine.
"But neurosurgeon Michael Schwartz of Toronto's Sunnybrook Hospital says he's never seen or heard of a death from a Rathke's cyst. He told CBC News symptoms can be alleviated if the cyst is drained or part of it removed to take pressure off the optic nerve. "Then the person's vision almost always improves.
"If somebody called me about a patient that was losing her vision or had a structural abnormality of the brain I would see them within days."
She's full of it. There are wait lists in Canada but patients are prioritized based on their health. My friends dad was diagnosed with a brain tumor on a Monday and it was removed Friday. This woman just wanted to jump through the gate without waiting and make a buck maligning Canada. If her symptoms had worsened, she would have had immediate surgery. Stop your lying!!!!! I hope you lose your house and can't pay that mortgage back for telling these lies to the American people. SHAME ON YOU
If her condition threatened her life or health, one would be surprised that the Mayo sent her back to Canada when they first saw her.
My mother and sister DO have cancer. And have had all the diagnostic procedures, chemo, radiation, surgery, home care, transportation and other services they need, when they need it and from the most qualified providers. Free of charge.
If she was so determined to have American-style care, she should have American-style bankruptcy to pay for it. This is not to say we have sub-standard care in Canada. Far from it. Ms. Holmes simply chose to not accept her accurate Canadian diagnosis (a non-fatal cyst) and found a profit-driven U.S. supplier to give her what she wanted. Canadians should not pick up her tab.
Holmes' "brain tumor" was actually a Rathke's Cleft Cyst on her pituitary gland. To quote an American source, the John Wayne Cancer Center, "Rathke's Cleft Cysts are not true tumors or neoplasms; instead they are benign cysts." Holmes had a problem and she was given appointments with the appropriate specialists in Ontario. She chose not to wait the few months to see them. But it's a far cry from the life-or-death picture portrayed by Holmes on the TV ads or by McConnell in his attacks.
The stats don't back her up .She is a fat cow who is being paid off..Actually 90% of Canadians like their health care..and over a million Americans a year go out of country..like to Canada to get health care. That actual friends that are helping her out are American special interest groups who are spending a 100 million a day to deceive you
It is up to society to help each other to grow and prosper. It isn't just a common set of laws that we all abide by and beliefs that we share. A society that doesn't help itself to grow and prosper is one that let's itself die.
With growth and prosperity is the ability to be able to live and work to contribute back to society. This can only be done if you're healthy enough to do it.
Thus, the human right to life and giving to society starts with the ability to know their health is cared for.
Given the choice, would you take $300,000 over the course of your lifetime or have universal healthcare?
I'd take the $300,000.
Then again, only people who pay income taxes pay for health care, for the rest of us, it's free. Therefore, here's to free health care, no income taxes, and screwing over honest, hardworking people who ACTUALLY pay income taxes.
The doctor looked at her husband and said "unfortunatly your wife wont make it that long" Yeh right.! Who was this doctor? I think we found the problem. Undercover HMO pushing Canadians south? lol. How long did systems persist before you sought medical advice? These cysts dont happen overnight. I'm kinda sickened by this interview and unfortunatly, we will likely see a ton more. Move to the states or reap our Canadian benefits of Health, and continue to pay for your health care state side
Yet not only does the commercial playing on FOX and CNN imply (if not blatantly state) that her tumor was cancerous, but it also says that if she had not received the operation immediately she would have died. Why is nobody here putting the US health care system under scrutiny for advising an immediate operation for something that is not life threatening, rather than criticizing the Canadian system for delaying a non-essential operation?
Shona Holmess story appears on the Mayo Clinic website (the US hospital where she underwent the operation). According to that website:
"Dr. Naresh Patel, neurosurgeon, diagnosed Holmes as having a Rathke's cleft cyst (RCC). The rare, fluid-filled sac grows near the pituitary gland at the base of the brain and eventually can cause hormone and vision problems."
US Health care is the greater joke of the two systems. It isn't a real system at all. It is a consumer driven business catering HEALTH of WALL STREET. Do not PRETEND it is anything more than that. US care is RATIONED by denial of coverage, refusal to pay for "unproven treatments", purging of costly policies. Healthcare should not be considered a privilege. Amazingly US care is proven to do all the terrible things in that Universal care is accused of doing. Who's being hoodwinked ;)
It is a system driven up by greedy lawyers who take Doctors to court with frivolous law suits. People like John Edward drove healthcare sky high. The FDA also drives it up by making the pharmaceutical industry do way too many years of testing when they can use the tests from other countries. You my friend have been sold a lie.
I am part of a family that has had seven life-threatening illnesses that were dealt with swiftly and with world-class efficiency thanks to the health care system available to all Canadians.
Aside from what looks like the "me" stance of Ms. Holmes, we are all sickened by the hypocrisy of her selling out, probably for monetary gain, while no doubt expecting our system, which she is vilifying, to pay for her bills.
Ms Holmes, please do us all a favour, and move to the US.
Really? I've lived here all my life and have never had a problem with it. I guess i'm just one of the lucky few right? Lol, i would rather live here than pay through the teeth in the US
A joke? I don't think so. When my parents needed heart surgery, they got the best care and guess what - NO CRIPPLING BILL. They had to wait but if they had worsened, they would have received immediate care. Healthcare here is a triage system - the sickest go first. Our sick don't die on the streeets.
LOL! Not only was it just a cyst, not a tumor, it was a *benign* cyst. Google "Shona Holmes cyst" for details. Yeppers, she's a big fat liar and a major wingnut (see her anti-abortion video for example).
as a cousin of a MALIGNANT BRAIN TUMOR survivor, i must say i am appalled by this lady's comments, its quite obvious she is all about "me-my problem-my-health" she is obviously making stories up as she goes. she is a selfish bitch....
My cousin had her surgery in less than 3 weeks (17 days) from the time she went to see the specialist. Am i saying the system is flawless? fuck no, it could be improved look at the BRITISH health! but is it better than what USA has?......HELL FUCKING YEAH IT IS.!
sunlitekid01 1 month ago
This fucking Cunt is a dirty motherfucking Liar, Eat Shit you fucking CUNT
TheRevolutionCanada 5 months ago
So we in our PJs are all doctors and we can tell what is cancer and what is just the sniffles?
Even if I grant you that you still miss the larger point. We should be making our medical decisions -- not big government.
We are going to elect a new president and a new senate and 0bamaCare is going to be repealed.
Fact.
mccommas2 8 months ago
A Rathke's Cleft Cyst IS NOT CANCER. It is NOT LIFE THREATENING! America is the ONLY modern nation or Wester nation WITHOUT a universal health care system. America is the only country where the amount of money you have determines if you will be able to afford life saving surgery or die from without it. She is a worthless liar.
pip74205 1 year ago
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go back to Canada BITCH!
apanzarello 1 year ago
go back to Canada BITCH!
apanzarello 1 year ago
@apanzarello PFFT WE DONT WANT HER...cant you take her...we will throw in some maple syrup ^__^
ughzean 1 year ago
@apanzarello We don't want her. You have to take her. She wants your system, let her have it.
murphyj87 9 months ago
morgaged her home to pay for tumor treatmen. Says it all right there. I'll gladly wait a few months if i have too.
DarthSchwartz 1 year ago
She was going to die. What do you expect her to do? Die for the cause of socilized medicine? Fuck you.
mccommas2 1 year ago 2
@mccommas2 too bad it was a cyst and not life threatening :P
maybe you should read up on the story.
ughzean 1 year ago
@mccommas2 She had a benign cyst Even if she waited 4 years, instead of 4 week (as she did at the Mayo Clinic too) for surgery, it made absolutely no difference The only way she would die is if she walked in front of a bus. An American who had the same thing and couldn't come with $100,000 would never have the surgery until they got Medicare to have the surgery. Sounds like a 30 year waiting list in the US to me.
murphyj87 9 months ago
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zeldazackman 2 years ago
Stupid americans deserve to be lied to, just keep handing your money over to the rich! Clever americans know that a fully universal system is better for everyone.
krazykeys88 2 years ago
"Holmes said U.S. doctors considered the cyst a tumour, and that it would cause death if not removed immediately." (CBC)
Honey, they'll tell you anything to make a buck. Health care is a business south of the border!
muziquelle 2 years ago
I am an Ontario resident. I had a seizure. Went to an ER on a Sunday. Had all the tests. They found two large tumouurs (non cancerous). Met the chief neuro surgeonn on Monday. He wanted to do surgery next day. I said no until I could check him out and get a second opinion. My family and I finally agreed on surgery and it was done at the end of the week. All covered by O.H.I.P. (Ontario insuance ). All the brain surgery people I have met in rehab have told me they have had similar care to mine.
inwil 2 years ago
The difference is that the same thing would have happened here (UK) except for:
1) We would have seen you just as quickly but it would have been free.
2) A fat newyorker insurance company wouldnt have raped you of your money
3) IN the UK we would have paid for a bus to bring you to the hospital.
krazykeys88 2 years ago
As usual, the British can't distinguish the US from Canada.
RedToryProductions 2 years ago
ummm OHIP is Canada and it was free. FYI
shawakwak 2 years ago
Quotation from CBC News on this story:
"But neurosurgeon Michael Schwartz of Toronto's Sunnybrook Hospital says he's never seen or heard of a death from a Rathke's cyst. He told CBC News symptoms can be alleviated if the cyst is drained or part of it removed to take pressure off the optic nerve. "Then the person's vision almost always improves.
"If somebody called me about a patient that was losing her vision or had a structural abnormality of the brain I would see them within days."
makinawdandy6699 2 years ago 2
She's full of it. There are wait lists in Canada but patients are prioritized based on their health. My friends dad was diagnosed with a brain tumor on a Monday and it was removed Friday. This woman just wanted to jump through the gate without waiting and make a buck maligning Canada. If her symptoms had worsened, she would have had immediate surgery. Stop your lying!!!!! I hope you lose your house and can't pay that mortgage back for telling these lies to the American people. SHAME ON YOU
empress0807 2 years ago 2
No cancer, no tumour.
Rathke's cleft cyst.
Mortality rate: 0%.
Permanent effects post-surgery: none.
Lies: lots.
If her condition threatened her life or health, one would be surprised that the Mayo sent her back to Canada when they first saw her.
My mother and sister DO have cancer. And have had all the diagnostic procedures, chemo, radiation, surgery, home care, transportation and other services they need, when they need it and from the most qualified providers. Free of charge.
Truth.
iverglas 2 years ago 3
If she was so determined to have American-style care, she should have American-style bankruptcy to pay for it. This is not to say we have sub-standard care in Canada. Far from it. Ms. Holmes simply chose to not accept her accurate Canadian diagnosis (a non-fatal cyst) and found a profit-driven U.S. supplier to give her what she wanted. Canadians should not pick up her tab.
1cherie1 2 years ago 3
How did Saskatchewan accomplish single-payer non-profit public medical insurance in 1940s ?
Tommy Douglas and Mouseland.
Check it out.
RedToryProductions 2 years ago
It wasn`t the `40`s it was 1962.
murphyj87 2 years ago
Saskatchewan Hospital Services Plan 1947
RedToryProductions 2 years ago
how can you be a brain tumor survivor, when you had no brain tumor to begin with? Blatant antiCanadianism. The scandal of the century.
TheCars4Sale 2 years ago
Holmes' "brain tumor" was actually a Rathke's Cleft Cyst on her pituitary gland. To quote an American source, the John Wayne Cancer Center, "Rathke's Cleft Cysts are not true tumors or neoplasms; instead they are benign cysts." Holmes had a problem and she was given appointments with the appropriate specialists in Ontario. She chose not to wait the few months to see them. But it's a far cry from the life-or-death picture portrayed by Holmes on the TV ads or by McConnell in his attacks.
drstarfirer 2 years ago 3
Funny how Fox News likes to hide the truth
drstarfirer 2 years ago 2
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onlywhenprovoked 2 years ago
I'm no fan of fox news but I think even they got duped.
shawakwak 2 years ago
The stats don't back her up .She is a fat cow who is being paid off..Actually 90% of Canadians like their health care..and over a million Americans a year go out of country..like to Canada to get health care. That actual friends that are helping her out are American special interest groups who are spending a 100 million a day to deceive you
GO FIGURE
THE TRUTH IS THERE IF YOU WANT IT
drstarfirer 2 years ago 3
Healhcare is a human right, not a privilege.
Shona Holmes did not have a life threatening tumour. It was not malignant. Basically ... she lied. She may have lost an eye, but not her life.
Shona is now suing the Canadian government ... 100% funded by the people that are trying fight Obama.
Please ... keep her in the USA. we don't want her back in Canada.
scarcat 2 years ago
How is healthcare a human right?
AJSensei 2 years ago
It is up to society to help each other to grow and prosper. It isn't just a common set of laws that we all abide by and beliefs that we share. A society that doesn't help itself to grow and prosper is one that let's itself die.
With growth and prosperity is the ability to be able to live and work to contribute back to society. This can only be done if you're healthy enough to do it.
Thus, the human right to life and giving to society starts with the ability to know their health is cared for.
scarcat 2 years ago 2
She is soo ridiculous if she is so much happier she should just move to the U.S. and cover the costs on her own like the americans do, not sue OHIP.
nicole610 2 years ago 3
Shona Holmes is gay period......
jamzmk 2 years ago
Given the choice, would you take $300,000 over the course of your lifetime or have universal healthcare?
I'd take the $300,000.
Then again, only people who pay income taxes pay for health care, for the rest of us, it's free. Therefore, here's to free health care, no income taxes, and screwing over honest, hardworking people who ACTUALLY pay income taxes.
nck1572 2 years ago
The doctor looked at her husband and said "unfortunatly your wife wont make it that long" Yeh right.! Who was this doctor? I think we found the problem. Undercover HMO pushing Canadians south? lol. How long did systems persist before you sought medical advice? These cysts dont happen overnight. I'm kinda sickened by this interview and unfortunatly, we will likely see a ton more. Move to the states or reap our Canadian benefits of Health, and continue to pay for your health care state side
davcon08 2 years ago
Yet not only does the commercial playing on FOX and CNN imply (if not blatantly state) that her tumor was cancerous, but it also says that if she had not received the operation immediately she would have died. Why is nobody here putting the US health care system under scrutiny for advising an immediate operation for something that is not life threatening, rather than criticizing the Canadian system for delaying a non-essential operation?
danielgellner 2 years ago 3
I am about to go on a rant, so bear with me:
Shona Holmess story appears on the Mayo Clinic website (the US hospital where she underwent the operation). According to that website:
"Dr. Naresh Patel, neurosurgeon, diagnosed Holmes as having a Rathke's cleft cyst (RCC). The rare, fluid-filled sac grows near the pituitary gland at the base of the brain and eventually can cause hormone and vision problems."
danielgellner 2 years ago 3
US Health care is the greater joke of the two systems. It isn't a real system at all. It is a consumer driven business catering HEALTH of WALL STREET. Do not PRETEND it is anything more than that. US care is RATIONED by denial of coverage, refusal to pay for "unproven treatments", purging of costly policies. Healthcare should not be considered a privilege. Amazingly US care is proven to do all the terrible things in that Universal care is accused of doing. Who's being hoodwinked ;)
Trinitytoo 2 years ago 2
It is a system driven up by greedy lawyers who take Doctors to court with frivolous law suits. People like John Edward drove healthcare sky high. The FDA also drives it up by making the pharmaceutical industry do way too many years of testing when they can use the tests from other countries. You my friend have been sold a lie.
AJSensei 2 years ago
I am part of a family that has had seven life-threatening illnesses that were dealt with swiftly and with world-class efficiency thanks to the health care system available to all Canadians.
Aside from what looks like the "me" stance of Ms. Holmes, we are all sickened by the hypocrisy of her selling out, probably for monetary gain, while no doubt expecting our system, which she is vilifying, to pay for her bills.
Ms Holmes, please do us all a favour, and move to the US.
GeorgeBushLicker 2 years ago 8
Still - the Canadian Health care system is a joke.
nck1572 2 years ago
Really? I've lived here all my life and have never had a problem with it. I guess i'm just one of the lucky few right? Lol, i would rather live here than pay through the teeth in the US
Ian7570 2 years ago
A joke? I don't think so. When my parents needed heart surgery, they got the best care and guess what - NO CRIPPLING BILL. They had to wait but if they had worsened, they would have received immediate care. Healthcare here is a triage system - the sickest go first. Our sick don't die on the streeets.
empress0807 2 years ago 3
Do us all a favour and move to the US...you big dummy.
obomsawinn 2 years ago 3
LOL! Not only was it just a cyst, not a tumor, it was a *benign* cyst. Google "Shona Holmes cyst" for details. Yeppers, she's a big fat liar and a major wingnut (see her anti-abortion video for example).
badtux 2 years ago 8
Shona Holmes is a liar.
tinyurl (dot) com (slash) mceh2m
MNICY 2 years ago 2
no surprise only the most "fair and balance" news channel would have her on
zhelynd 2 years ago
This women is now sueing the Ontairo Gov't to pay her American Health Care bills. Do American's sue the goverment for their Health Care Bills????
5h3llf15h 2 years ago 4
She had a cyst, not a tumour. Read the Mayo Clinc's description of her treatment.
mcresearch 2 years ago 2