@CaptainBluebear08 and caiogbarros: Thanks, both of you—when I'm done listening to A-Ha's "Take On Me," I may very well head over and check that recording out. I absolutely hate Boulez. He's a genius, and I have the utmost respect for his work, but his attitude is so unfathomably repulsive. I get the feeling that he just hates everybody. He even broke up a party a friend of mine was holding in his dorm at Juilliard. Boo.
WOW. I'm kind of blown away. I never liked Webern before (not because I'm turned off by dissonance—I'm actually a composition grad student), but because I always found his stuff cold and impersonal. I always much preferred Schoenberg and Berg. But this set of pieces really turns things around for me! They're exciting, dynamic, and dramatic, with some really great phrases of development. I will definitely have to look deeper into his stuff now! Thanks for posting this :-)
@TheRealmsOfGold I think that most of this feeling come from some interpretations by Boulez (most of us only know those). If you can, listen Robert Craft conducting Webern's Symphony op. 21 (especially the second movement). You'll hear a Webern that most of us don't know. It should be easy and cheap to find since this recording is released by naxos
@TheRealmsOfGold Thats funny i feel the same about Schoenberg as you felt about Webern. His (Webern's) best pieces seem to me extremely emotional. He has some very good piano pieces (see the Gould renditions), after this perhaps you can sense the feeling in them. Its not -only- my opinion that Webern isnt simply a cold maker of musical palindromes. He once admitted the effect that the death of his mother had on his music.
It is indeed a great piece, but sorry, it's not dodecaphonic. The twelve - tone - technic was invented by Schoenberg in 1923, Webern used it the first time in his "Drei Geistliche Volkslieder" in 1925.
These orchestrations are my favourite Webern pieces, even more than the 5 Pieces for Orchestra. I believe this is the exact Von Karajan recording that I used to have on cassette when I was a child. Thanks for posting! :-)
Webern himself called this quartet "1st quartet", premiered in Vienna on february 8th, 1910. years later between 1928-29, the author himself made a transcription for string orchestra, both already with the atonality, being as we know one of the 2 pupils, the other one Alban Berg, from the "father of this 2nd viennese school: Arnold Schönberg- though it's not my favorite style, it's still rather interesting listening to
is anyone else immensely enjoying the fact that Boulez broke up this young man's dorm-room party at Juilliard?
flammesombres 1 year ago
@flammesombres Now I am.
TheDirtSanchezz 1 year ago
@CaptainBluebear08 and caiogbarros: Thanks, both of you—when I'm done listening to A-Ha's "Take On Me," I may very well head over and check that recording out. I absolutely hate Boulez. He's a genius, and I have the utmost respect for his work, but his attitude is so unfathomably repulsive. I get the feeling that he just hates everybody. He even broke up a party a friend of mine was holding in his dorm at Juilliard. Boo.
TheRealmsOfGold 1 year ago
Great piece, what recording is this?
nlenchner 1 year ago
Sounds like Robert Kraft's Columbia recording.
thorellyk 1 year ago
WOW. I'm kind of blown away. I never liked Webern before (not because I'm turned off by dissonance—I'm actually a composition grad student), but because I always found his stuff cold and impersonal. I always much preferred Schoenberg and Berg. But this set of pieces really turns things around for me! They're exciting, dynamic, and dramatic, with some really great phrases of development. I will definitely have to look deeper into his stuff now! Thanks for posting this :-)
TheRealmsOfGold 2 years ago 7
@TheRealmsOfGold I think that most of this feeling come from some interpretations by Boulez (most of us only know those). If you can, listen Robert Craft conducting Webern's Symphony op. 21 (especially the second movement). You'll hear a Webern that most of us don't know. It should be easy and cheap to find since this recording is released by naxos
caiogbarros 1 year ago
@TheRealmsOfGold Thats funny i feel the same about Schoenberg as you felt about Webern. His (Webern's) best pieces seem to me extremely emotional. He has some very good piano pieces (see the Gould renditions), after this perhaps you can sense the feeling in them. Its not -only- my opinion that Webern isnt simply a cold maker of musical palindromes. He once admitted the effect that the death of his mother had on his music.
Schizopantheist 8 months ago
This is my favorite 12-tone piece by my favorite 12-tone composer.
scarsunseen24 2 years ago 2
It is indeed a great piece, but sorry, it's not dodecaphonic. The twelve - tone - technic was invented by Schoenberg in 1923, Webern used it the first time in his "Drei Geistliche Volkslieder" in 1925.
lorenzarthur91 2 years ago 4
@scarsunseen24 It's not a 12-tone piece.......
georgtbn 2 years ago
This isn't a 12-tone piece, but yep, it's amazing :)
Norbeone 2 years ago
These orchestrations are my favourite Webern pieces, even more than the 5 Pieces for Orchestra. I believe this is the exact Von Karajan recording that I used to have on cassette when I was a child. Thanks for posting! :-)
danrimage 2 years ago 3
Webern himself called this quartet "1st quartet", premiered in Vienna on february 8th, 1910. years later between 1928-29, the author himself made a transcription for string orchestra, both already with the atonality, being as we know one of the 2 pupils, the other one Alban Berg, from the "father of this 2nd viennese school: Arnold Schönberg- though it's not my favorite style, it's still rather interesting listening to
beethomozart 2 years ago 3
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plmqas 2 years ago