Why College Hoops 2k8 is better than NBA 2k9 and what NBA 2k10 needs to top it. (Part 2)

[Power2People59]

lol 2k11 blows this outta the water..not sure about 2k9

[Dedmon319]

First off, SPEAK UP. Geez learn how to speak clearly.

Second, 2K (as well as all of EA's games but they would be better off letting 2K make all the sports games) needs to quit worrying so much about the freakin graphics and worry about the gameplay. Playing their games is like buying a Ferrari without an engine. Yeah it looks good but thats all its good for.

CH2K8 didnt have great graphics, but it played well. They need to allow strategy and gameplan to have more of an effect tho

[Sakumiku]

Your comments are spot on.

Since 2K8 the series has gone downhill. 2K have spent more time on the visuals and TV style presentation and less on the important stuff like defensive ai. The question is why?

They should use CH2K8 as a reference for NBA2K11.

[rat3dmon3y]

The court is way too small in 2K8

[chargers1783]

@melo15986 no is not

[mrfresha101]

This idiot. NBA 2k10 and 2k9 is way better than College Hoops 2k8. Stop parading around youtube with your lack of education of the game of basketball.

[freakyfatdog]

besides graphics can you give me 5 reasons why 2k9 is better

[KCClassic7]

@freakyfatdog lol u know he can't do that lol haha

[aubiesucks12]

i don't know dude, i thought the same thing till i played it again

[glinxz]

@mrfresha101 i played 2k9 its BS and frustrating like anyone in 2k9 can have 80 pts. 2k10 stepped it up big time even though it had online gliches or my player mode. 2k11 FTW cant wait.

[Melo15986]

Did u know that MICHAEL JORDAN IS GONNA BE IN NBA 2K11!!!

[freakyfatdog]

@Melo15986 lol you were right good call. If you know any other inside info PM me. I'll keep it quiet.

[littl3m0nkey]

Well about the shooting in the paint, you could say that college kids don't have the "finishing in traffic" ability like the NBA players do (except for the all-american players and big men).

But yeah, 2k over the years have done a poor job on finishing and shooting/layups in the paint.

[freakyfatdog]

True but its also a lot harder to finish in the NBA.

[jbsbllv]

2:46 your comments are so right, also hilarious

[coco25RS]

great vid, i agree with all your points

Ch2k8 is still the best bball sim

[ArmondoOrtiz76Lincol]

Nice video and good points made. I still play NBA 2K8.

[DahStoryTella]

5 star for the shook ones pt 2

[pinoyheat]

nba rules and college hoops rules are different. that's why the game play is different.

[freakyfatdog]

Did you watch the video? What do the rules have to do with help defense, collision detection, big men doing random crossovers, mistake free ballhandling/passing, jerky controls, unrealistic shooting percentages? Its not like I complained about how they call continuation fouls differently, or 5 fouls, or the distance of the three point line etc. Thats a cop out excuse and judging by the Draft Combine Visual Concepts didnt cop out because they addressed a lot of what I talked about.

[Favetop00]

shook ones pt2 playin in da background very nice :D

[Masterchief360ful]

u all r idiots

[XxxDoWorkSonxxX]

u dont know anything about TRUE basketball

[ausar02]

these are some quality vids

[Ballerking2425]

You are totally right. I was very dissapointed with NBA 2K9 this year. I still play 2K8 because it has more realistic shooting percentage. NBA 2K needs to step it up for 2K10.

[sublime8992]

and this is why i still play CK2K8 way more than any other sports game

[shakman84life]

theres no problemn with double team u just need some 1 wid good def awareness and the will jump when the man tries to layup

you need to put up help defense for them to help u and make sure good def awareness (i understand oden is good)

hope my tips help!:D

[freakyfatdog]

Def awareness effects how fast a double team gets there and might help prevent players from dribbling through it. If it has any effect on the shot its minuscule.

[the1PROfessional]

This seems to always pop up in nba 2k9 videos. 2k needs to think about, are we making a simulation or arcade game? Still, it's close, but it's not exactly great.

If this is as good as it gets, then i don't know if we will ever be able to experience a realistic game of basketball on any console.

[0659610]

How are u goin to compare a college to nba. i do agree on the blocks. theyre both made by the same people so theyre alike except for the people. and dwayne wade can make a no look layup. IDIOT

[freakyfatdog]

I know my mic sucks but I did say Wade can make trick shots. Still 99% of the time Oden's blocking that. If he has 5 fouls and he wants to stay in for a double double he might just let Wade miss and get the rebound. Wade would miss that shot 85% of the time or more.

[Gioskywalker1]

U ARE RIGHT!!

[AmeriicanBoii44]

ur 100 percent right~!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jankie012]

im not sure if thats good defence or bad offence

or too good defence, and a team wouldnt crowd the paint because he could just pass it out

just saying

[OakvilleVenom]

i agree wit u i havnt playd college hoops but i see wut u meen

[ArkansasG]

Nice video bruh. I don't think the problem is with Kobe, Lebron, and Wade making those tough shots because that is what seperates them from the rest of the league.

It is the fact that almost ANY player can continuously make those shots time after time as long as they have above average shooting ratings.

[ArkansasG]

I am particularly referring to Wade and Kobe. They don't make them at the rate that they do in 2K9 but they are arguably the best to players in the world when you it comes to making those tough shots.

But when I can continuously do it with a player like Martell Webster, have a problem.

[zetnom89]

video is awesome i love CH2K8, and one thing i dont think u mentioned in 2k9 is that BS hesitation dribble when u have a good ball handler like an Allen Iverson u jus click the R Trigger and he does that step back dribble move or whatever and you jus blow right past ur defender, its annoyin but i still do it... sorry to complain because i still love 2K over EA anyday

[cubybull]

do you have this for xbox 360 or ps3?

[freakyfatdog]

360

[bigz008]

nic vid, but first time i heard someone liking College hoops better than a 2k sports game.

[cubybull]

college hoops is a 2k sports game.

[k9226192]

That's true!

[aspenaspen]

first of all ur right about most of the things but the steal thing when a guy trys to do a layup is also in 2K9 just saying not hatin

but u should really send this to the 2K makers!

[freakyfatdog]

I know its there it I just dont think it happens enough when you play player vs player. In CH 2k8 it hapens too often vs the CPU.

[zetnom89]

ya it was really easy to do it in NBA 2k8

[aspenaspen]

yeah brah it was

[DaBestHitz]

Ok but when all of those players reach dha paint, they're leaving the rest of the team open..... && When they hit their open shots people wanna complain.... That was on of the big problems that was reported to 2K Sports

[jabbawok784512]

u crazy ur alwayz suppose 2 make it in da paint duuuuuuuuuh

[Wisewind]

Broken moves that need to be fixed or toned down is spin move, hesitation dribble, and up and unders out of the post.

[Wisewind]

I agree doubles are completely useless in 2k9. Not only is it easy to shoot out of it with little consequence but if they are turboing towards the basket with any star player they split 95% of the time. On top of all that they can call timeout even after they are tied up in the DT.

[Wisewind]

I actually like the isomotion in 2k9. Like you I try and beat my man off the dribble with 1 or 2 moves (no I don't run around in cirles and try and get baseline). I also like making use of the triple threat but shooting out of it is lame because of the recovery out of a jab step is too long and easy for defenders to get back in position.

[DWRedskins26]

u have just proved that college hoops is the best video game ever created! if anyone wants to play CHoops on the 360 my gamertag is

VandyRedskins30...i use Vanderbilt and UT-Martin...it depends on what team u use

[SupraGT510]

freakyfatdog ...you should send your video to take2 and the nba 2k makers...let them know what needs to be changed. and what harecore basketball fans really want.

[joeprofits]

i play wih the rockets and will murder you all

[DREMONEY23]

this damn game annoys me but i love it. but if i was a PG IN THE NBA i be highly upset they Miss way to many LAY UPS. and im talkin elite PGs and they allow u to catch certain players in the open court with slower players i cant stand it and LEBRON WADE KOBE un real especially when i go online and i play against people who use the 3 guys and shoot at least 45FGA

[freakyfatdog]

I dont think its so much of a problem that PGs miss too many although some of the poor finshers do miss a few too many easy ones. The problem is everyone else makes them too easly so the PGs have an unfair disadvantage. Also there are too many layup animations that work so much better than others. The baby hook works too well for PGs. In real life Parker had the best FG% in the paint for PGs with 64% so even he misses 46% of the time in then paint.

[Alumno18]

GO BLAZERS... Brandon Roy - 2010 MVP

[Alumno18]

You and me are the only people that use the blazers instead of the cavs or the lakers. and 2k9 pissed me off so much i returned it and i go nba live 09. the game works a little better but both games have major problems that they need to fix for 2009

[taketyanman09]

GREAT

[TruBone7]

take this gameplay/a.i. and 2k9's graphics and omg

[ausar02]

great vid

[LosAngelesFresh1]

Someone posted this on the 2K official forums.

[teebone2k9]

this vid is the truth

[KGPF21]

2k failed to make a simulation this year.

[esamuels88]

agreed this arcade style basketball isnt good for us sim style guys...i pride myself on holdin opposition to 95 points a game but they score like 140 every game in 2k9

[xDaWolf]

this must be heard. the last point about help defense and collapsing MUST CHANGE for 2K10.