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  • on the back of the w2 it says if you wont to get your refund you Should file your taxes "should" what if i dont not wont my refund try again sheep people one guy was a lawyer and he went to court and they said were does it say that we need to file are taxes and the irs boss said i have been paying taxes sence i was 16 so you should , so if he jumps off a bridge we should too thank about it sheep people wake up

  • @sadegoGC There is no legal basis on why you HAVE to pay a tax on your earnings. You equally trade your labor for their wages. So where is a legal, or valid rather, reasoning in paying taxes on that? It's not an opinion guy, it's a very reasonable question. And the treasury is merely an entity that is empowered by the Fed to print money. The funds (income tax) they return to the Fed are not repaid to them. The federal government pays the treasury with money they borrowed from the Fed to b

  • I would pay a 700% STATE sales tax. Because its legal. States have the power, fed is a joke.

  • Banister's attorney admitted that Banister had been paying his federal income taxes (which was apparently why he was not charged with tax evasion), and repeatedly referred to Al Thompson as a "liar" and "convicted felon".

  • This is a good find. I have been on a 3 hour research now for all kinds of questions I've raised about income taxes and the central bank.

    Two things are certainly clear:

    1. If you work for wages, why should you pay a tax on that? You shouldn't. This is what indentured slaves had to do and something the colonies were trying to escape from England.

    2. The Fed supplies ALL the money at interest. If the money comes from the Fed, where does the money come from to pay the interest? It c

  • @jac0441

    1. Opinion, no legal basis.

    2. The money to pay the interest comes from the Federal Reserve. Then at the end of the fiscal year the money the US Treasury paid to the Federal Reserve as interest on the Federal Debt is rebated back to the US Treasury, after the Fed pays its operating costs. These operating costs would exist regardless of who set monetary policy and whether or not the Fed existed. Therefore, the Fed costs the US nothing in terms of interest.

  • This must be from 1999-2000

  • Damn Alex 4 years in that chair is taking a toll on you!!!! Keep up the good work as long as you can. Thanks for this & all you do

  • They're the mafia, like Arron Russo said "I don't advise you not to pay your taxes because you may get hurt" they do it by force not by legalities because it's illegal technically...Shut down the Federal Reserve, problem solved.

  • @royalblowno

    The income tax has absolutely nothing to do with the federal reserve and its legal in every respect to the law. If you were to go to Court and argue the Federal Income Tax was unconstitutional and the IRS Code is not a law in the US, your arguments would be deemed frivolous, the opposing attorney would likely laugh at you, and you would most certainly lose the case regardless of how good your lawyer was.

  • alex jones is a fake!!! watch : William Cooper's Expose' On Alex Jones Y2K (Whole thing) fuck illuminati,cia,fbi,nwo, alex jones sounds like the truth but is "NOT'!!! we need to open our bibles!!!!!!!!!!! r.i.p. cooper!

  • In 2003, at the height of the predatory lending crisis, Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) invoked a clause from the 1863 National Bank Act to issue formal opinions preempting all state predatory lending laws, thereby rendering them inoperative. The OCC also promulgated new rules that prevented states from enforcing any of their own consumer protection laws against national banks.

    National Banks suck but the Income tax is legal.

  • @Tubeusercomm

    Nice try. But...no it is not.

    The Fed and the system it uses is a fraud.

  • @Dnar87

    Our Fed government has been captured by the the financial industry and wall street and they support fraud but the Federal income tax is legal.

  • @Tubeusercomm Correct, the amendment was ratified. If you look into the arguments people make they are more or less incorrect or misguided. It boils down to the argument, that only 4 states had EXACT copies while other states' copies contained capitalization, spelling and punctuation errors, which was deemed trivial when compared to earlier amendments with far more egregious errors.

  • @TheGldnSldr

    You are forgetting about many different aspects of the ratification process of an amendment to the US Constitution when making your analysis. Arguing the income tax is unconstitutional for any reason is completely frivolous and has absolutely no logical basis. Try answering these questions:

    1) Who determines when the ratification requirements of an amendment has been met?

    2) If there are disputes over this decision, who argues them?

  • @Tubeusercomm of course there are other baseless arguments that all point back to Benson and Beckmans "The Law That Never Was," a book based on partial research. I agree though on the subject of the Federal Reserve, that is a system designed to be corrupt.

  • The only way to avoid income tax is to avoid producing income. So that is why the gov has the nose up our ass taxing and regulating farming since if all your means of existance did not use there money you could find a way to not produce any income but still feed , cloth, educate, yourself and enjoy your life with your family. That is why waco happened. That is why the native american indians were never left in peace by the gov releasing the crackers loose on them.

  • Taxfree 15/april strike

    Stay at home, don't buy, don't comply.

    Over 100,000,000 of your fellow Americans believe that the U.S. government was either directly or indirectly involved in the attacks of 9/11. Direct or indirect involvement is treason, punishable by death.

    Demand a legitimate investigation as required by law.

  • @KevinMerck Is this a typo I don't think there are that many citizens in the U.S.

  • @brder4ev

    There are over 300,000,000 (300 million) people in the U.S.

    Better than one out of three Americans believes that our government is giving aid and comfort to a "domestic enemy" that planned and executed the 9/11 attacks.

    Stop paying the illegal income tax and join in the fight to expose 9/11.

    

  • @KevinMerck

    You are an idiot or a gov irs gent trying to put dissidents in prison.

    The income tax is legal you muther f-cking lying ass gov agent freak.

  • Wachovia laundered $378.3 billion from Mexico's murderous drug gangs.

    -

    For the time period of 1 May 2004 through 31 May 2007, Wachovia

    processed a total of more than $378.3 billion.

  • Hey people. Im 27 now and as I got older theres a lot of stuff Im starting to see, hear, and understand on how the government works. Seeing all these is making me loose my trust not just in the American government but governments all around the world. No matter where you go Canada, China, where ever your gonna find some problems. Sometimes it crosses my mind and I just wana move to Canada but what if there's other problem there, no matter where you go there some shit your gona hate.

  • @ernesdee2o916 agreed agreed agreed

  • @SadegoGG says: "Why don't you establish statistical significance in your argument?" -

    There is no argument. This has nothing to do with the legal income tax.

    Why Isn't Wall Street in Jail?

    Financial crooks brought down the world's economy — but the feds are doing more to protect them than to prosecute them.

    By Matt Taibbi

    February 16, 2011

    This article appears in the March 3, 2011 issue of Rolling Stone. - -

    rollingstone com politics news why-isnt-wall-street-in-jail-2­­­0110216

  • The only good IRS agent is one who resigned and stopped filing a 1040 for ethical reasons.

    watch?v=IQ36h_TlKSs

    Some say that if you don’t want to pay your income tax, you should go live in the woods.

    I say - stop paying the illegal income tax and make them live in the woods. Those who defend an illegal income tax are mostly the criminals who benefit from it.

    It’s time to put the real criminals in prison where they belong.

  • @KevinMerck Tell me about it. I've worked in finance before and saw stuff that made me sick. But I guess if you can't beat them, join them. Since nobody's going to do a simple flat tax, I guess I'll sell my soul and become an actual official accountant so I'll at least have better job security. I hate work, so I might as well find something that pays decent since I'll hate it anyway.

  • @KevinMerck says: "The only good IRS agent is one who resigned and stopped filing a 1040 for ethical reasons."

    Like Sherry Peel Jackson who is doing 4 years in the federal pen. She also had her prison wages attached to pay fine her fines.

    ROTFL

  • UNDERCOVER AGENT JOE BANNISTER PART 1

  • rdknight6

    The IRS will attach your prison wages.

    Ex-IRS agent Sherry Peel had her prison wages attached to pay her fines.

    You will make a good "cell block lap bitch."

  • Fuck the Federal Reserve and the bitchmade IRS, bring it on muthafuckaz I ant paying SHIT!

  • @rdknight6

    Then go to jail muthafucka! LOL

    Say hello to bubba while in the showers!! LMAO!

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  • @rdknight6

    The income tax is not unconstitutional. Go to your local University and ask any law professor.

  • Why Isn't Wall Street in Jail?

    Financial crooks brought down the world's economy — but the feds are doing more to protect them than to prosecute them.

    By Matt Taibbi

    February 16, 2011

    This article appears in the March 3, 2011 issue of Rolling Stone.

    rollingstone com politics news why-isnt-wall-street-in-jail-2­­0110216

  • @Tubeusercomm

    Take them to court then...

    The people qualified to take CEOs of Wall Street banks don't believe in your petty little conspiracy theories, and a judge would laugh your conspiracy theories out of court since the points you made wouldn't stand up against professionals.

  • @SadegoGG

    ROTFL

    1: The article is by Matt Taibbi.

    2: You have the right to keep your head in the sand.

    3: Plenty of lawsuits have been filed.

  • @SadegoGG says: "The people qualified to take CEOs of Wall Street banks don't believe in your petty little conspiracy theories, - -" William K Black, Janet Tavakoli and Karl Denninger say otherwise. The crimes are a matter of congressional record.

  • @Tubeusercomm

    Why don't you establish statistical significance in your argument?

  • The IRS. Another reason not to have children.

  • It’s a fact that the Constitution contains 4400 words and was meant to be *understood* by everyone.

    It’s also a fact that the tax code contains 10,000,000 words and was intended to *steal* from everyone.

    The 16th Amendment was never legally ratified, (see “The Law That Never Was”) and the income tax has been declared unconstitutional by the SCOTUS.

    ------------------------------­------------------------------­-

    Stop paying the illegal income tax and join in the fight to expose 9/11.

  • @KevinMerck "The 16th Amendment was never legally ratified, (

    .

    PROVEN LIE

  • @KevinMerck

    Most of the IRS deals with how to avoid paying income taxes. Have you ever taken a class in tax law or actually read portions of the IRS Code? Also, the founding fathers agreed the Constitution was available for interpretation and change. Moreover, the 16th Amendment was legally qualified. Why do you believe the 16th Amendment was not properly ratified? I'd be more than happy to provide you a debunk.

  • @KevinMerck

    Actually, a majority of the IRS Code discusses cases in which people are not entitled to pay income taxes for various forms of income.

    Anyways, the belief the income tax was not properly ratified is frivolous and you have absolutely no basis for such a claim. Making such a claim would bet suggest we should bring dead people back to life to argue over something they never disagreed on.

    Do you even know who ratifies amendments and who deals with ratification issues?

  • Amendment 16 - Status of Income Tax Clarified. Ratified 2/3/1913. Note History

    The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

    ------------------------------­------------------------------­--------------------

  • We the People Congress and Foundation

    Schulz v. United States Federal Reserve

    System et al., 08-CV-991.

    The Complaint alleges that Schulz pays taxes to the United States and New York State.

    Schulz alleges as his injury that he is a “payer of federal taxes” and has a legal interest “not to have his money taken from him” for purposes he deems illicit.

    Schulz admits that he pays his income taxes while leading his sheep to prison.

    I want to see a "Robert Schulz" failure to file case.

  • The court ordered that the names, addresses, telephone numbers, e-mail addresses and Social Security numbers of every person who received materials on how to stop paying taxes be turned over to the government. The District Court issued an order holding We the People Foundation in contempt of court, imposing fines of $2,000 per day.

    On May 5, 2008, Schulz filed a document with the court asserting that he had turned the material over to the United States attorney's office earlier that day.

  • It turns out some IRS agents figured out they can make more money of suckers who don't like paying taxes than holding a regular job.

    Sherry Peel Jackson, Joe Banister, and the rest of the clan are a hoax! Title 26 has never been defeated before. Do you think you will be the first to do so? Go ahead and try!

    The IRS can be repealed but not through tax evasion. Be smart and ignore these goons!! Look up Roan Paul and Peter Schiff.

  • @MrSupernova111

    The IRS Chief Counsel and DoJ attorneys compete to get cases such as this.

    These slam-dunks add in nicely to the win-loss record which helps determine their annual bonus.

  • Ok alex if u believe there is no tax laws. When i hear you say People im not paying taxes anymore i will join you. But you go first!!

  • 10 30 2010 Dr. Mark E. Hopkins and Sharon J. Hopkins were convicted of seven counts of tax evasion and one count of conspiracy.

    "Motion to Exclude the Testimony of Joe Banister."

    Mr. Banister's proposed testimony is comprised largely of legal conclusions, which are not a proper form of expert testimony. United States v. Bedford, 536 F.3d 1148, 1158 (10th Cir. 2008)

    IT IS THEREFORE ORDERED Government's Motion In Limine To Exclude The Testimony Of Joseph R. Banister [Doc 142] is GRANTED

  • The iRS was established July 1, 1862 by an act of Congress. Previous IRS Commissioners.

    George S. Boutwell Massachusetts July 17, 1862 to March 4, 1863.

    Joseph J. Lewis (Acting) Pennsylvania March 5 to March 17, 1863. Joseph J. Lewis Pennsylvania March 18, 1863 to June 30, 1865. William Orton New York July 1, 1865 to Oct. 31, 1865. Edward A. Rollins New Hampshire Nov. 1, 1865 to March 10, 1869, Columbus Delano Ohio March 11, 1869 to Oct. 31, 1870.

  • We the People Congress and Foundation

    Schulz v. United States Federal Reserve

    System et al., 08-CV-991.

    The Complaint alleges that Schulz pays taxes to the United States and New York State.

    Schulz alleges as his injury that he is a “payer of federal taxes” and has a legal interest “not to have his money taken from him” for purposes he deems illicit.

    Schulz admits that he pays his income taxes while leading his sheep to prison.

    I want to see a "Robert Schulz" failure to file case.

  • Joe Banister pays his income taxes while his followers go to prison.

    Charles Thomas Clayton - 5 years.

    SHERRY PEEL JACKSON - 4 years.

    Richard Michael Simkanin - 7 years.

    Matthew J. Allen - guilty 3 felony counts.

    Wesley Snipes - 3 years.

    Walter Allen Thompson - six years.

    Joe provides job security for IRS agents

  • Want something real to bitch about:

    Youtube search: To rob a country, own a bank

    It's by William K Black

    Banksters + Wall Street crooks run control frauds to loot banks and companies so they can get rich through bankruptcy as the loses are insured by the US government.

    The FBI warned of these problems and of an economic crash in 2004.

    There has not been one arrest of these crooks responsible for the 2008 crash.

  • Charles Thomas Clayton was convicted on two counts of making false tax returns + six counts of willful failure to file + was sentenced to 5 years in prison.

    Clayton himself prepared the amended returns for 1997 and 1998 sent them to Banister for approval, and then sent them to the IRS.

    It was Banister who was instructing Clayton as to the method for making claims for refunds.

    As a result of his conviction, the Texas Medical Board revoked Clayton's license to practice medicine.

  • Tubeuser, first you claim that Banister sells "de-tax" packages on his website. When I call you out on that preposterous lie, you change the subject and add more lies. Banister "receives money through his shady attorney Bernhoft?" How do you know this Tube? Do you have access to Banisters bank accounts and business dealings? You are full of it and are delusional. Banister is still paying Bernhoft for his tax trial, why would Bernhoft be paying Banister? You are bizarre.

  • @freenow77

    Joe Bannister files a 1099 - United States v. Bernhoft.

    read it .

  • @freenow77

    Revenue Agent Hawkins learned that Bernhoft makes substantial annual payments to Banister.

    IT IS HEREBY ORDERED THAT:

    The Government’s petition to enforce the IRS summons for “[a]ny form, document or letter prepared by Joseph Banister for [Bernhoft] and/or [his] entities” and “[a]ny correspondence (including e-mails) between Joseph Banister and [Bernhoft] and/or [his] entities” is GRANTED.

    Bernhoft MUST PRODUCE those materials to the Government no later than November 30, 2009.

  • Tubeuser, Joe Banister does NOT sell any "de-tax" or un-tax items on his website. The report Joe Banister wrote describes his experience with the IRS, why he left, and the tax laws he researched to come up with his conclusions. There is nothing in there about how to "de-tax" yourself. If you had read it you wouldn't be saying this nonsense. You don't know what you are talking about.

  • @freenow77

    Banister receives money funneled thru his shady attorney Bernhoft.

    To help you live free NOW, Freedom Law School brings you two powerful packages:

    The Tax Freedom Package & The Challenger Package

    Joe Banister seminar September 11, 1999 9 AM Double Tree Hotel, Sacramento, Ca

    send your registration by funds, which the pay to line is left BLANK, or preferably by CASH, by September 5th to: Freedom Law School 13211 Myford Road #332, Tustin, CA 92782 (714)838-2896

  • Banister's attorney Robert Bernhoft represented Wesley Snipes who was convicted of three counts of willful failure to file. Snipes was sentenced to three years in prison.

    Banister's client Walter Allen Thompson is serving 6 years at the Federal Correctional? Institution at Lompoc.

    Banister is paying his income taxes.

    That's how the IRS knows his sources of income. (United States v. Bernhoft)

  • SHERRY PEEL JACKSON,a former IRS Revenue Agent, was sentenced on February 14, 2008 to four years in federal prison on four counts of failure to file her individual tax returns for the years 2000 to 2003.

    In 2000, defendant came into contact with Joseph Banister, a

    former IRS agent, who is a supporter of WTP; defendant later became

    a member of Banister's tax protestor's "Hall of Fame." See

    attached Govt. Exhibit 1.

    OMG ROTFL!

  • JANUARY 8, 2004

    Richard Michael Simkanin was found guilty of ten counts of willful failure to collect, account for and pay over taxes due; 15 counts of making false claims against the United States; and four counts of failure to file individual income tax returns.

    The defense called Joseph Banister, a former IRS Criminal Investigator, who now claims there is no law mandating income taxes. Simkanin was sentenced to 7 years in the pen

  • Mr. Banister has many followers, including Matthew J. Allen, a sheriff's deputy in Marin County, Calif., who was found guilty of one felony count of filing a false state income tax return, and two felony counts of filing a fraudulent Form W-4 Employee Withholding Allowance Certificate.

    Allen said he subscribes to the philosophies of Joseph Banister.

  • Once we get the FairTax, we'll wonder why it took us so long. It'll eliminate the $300? billion wasted on compliance. Poor people won't pay any taxes because of the Prebate. Criminals and illegals will finally contribute to the tax collection. Prices will likely stay the same, but you'll be able to buy a lot more with your pay check. Do the research. Watch the "Its Time"? FairTax video.

  • Joe Bannister files a 1099 - United States v. Bernhoft

  • Director, Office of Professional Responsibility,

    v.

    Joseph R. Banister

    Banister's assertions have been addressed by so many federal courts that they are no longer afforded the dignity of repeating the explanations as to why the claims are meritless.

    JOSEPH R. BANISTER, is hereby ORDERED DISBARRED from practice before the Internal Revenue Service.

    Judge William B. Moran

  • Joe Bannister's attorney Bernhoft is a known tax fraud proponent. In 1999, he was permanently enjoined from promoting his "De-Taxing America Program" tax protester scheme. United States v. Robert R. Raymond

    The district court concluded that the "De-Taxing America" program contained false statements and false advice concerning the federal income tax .

  • Tubeuser says that Banister "figured he could make more money selling de-tax books than he could working for the IRS." Are you a mind reader Tube? As an IRS agent, Joe was making good money. I think between $70,000-$90,000 a year. I guarantee that Banister is not making $70,000 a year selling books. In fact Banister has never sold any de-tax books. Banister left because the IRS refused to show him the law that requires Americans living within the 50 states to pay federal income taxes.

  • @freenow77

    You are just being silly.

    Freedom Above Fortune was founded by  Banister.

    De-tax propaganda material is being sold there.

    Banister was disbarred from practice before the IRS.

    His license was revoked in CPA in California.

    Judge Moran’: “the 861 argument and the non-ratified 16th Amendment argument share a related lunacy in that, for differently concocted reasons, neither accomplishes the presumed goal of creating a Federal income tax on U.S. citizens.”

  • In another case:

    On August 27, 2008, the United States Tax Court ruled that Banister was liable for federal income taxes and penalties for failure to file his 2002 federal income tax return and report, as income, over $23,000 in a distribution from a retirement plan and other income.

    Banister v. Commissioner, T.C. Memo 2008-201, CCH Dec. 57,522(M), docket no. 1356-06 (Aug. 27, 2008).

  • The tax law is found in Title 26 of the United States Code. The requirement to file an income tax return is not voluntary and it is clearly set forth in the Internal Revenue Code (IRC) Sections 6011(a), 6012(a), et seq., and 6072(a). IRS was established July 1, 1862 by an act of Congress. Our system of taxation allows taxpayers to determine the correct amount of tax and complete the appropriate forms "voluntarily" rather than have the government do it for them.

  • Banister figured out that he could make a lot more money selling de-tax books than he could working for the IRS.

    Banister's attorney admitted that Banister pays his federal income taxes.

    Banister's case did not even involve the question of the liability for federal income taxes.

    A jury acquitted Joe Banister of multiple counts of assisting Al Thompson file a fraudulent tax return.

    Al Thompson was sentenced in a separate trial to six years in a federal penitentiary.

  • On August 27, 2008, the United States Tax Court ruled that Banister was liable for federal income taxes and penalties for failure to file his 2002 federal income tax return and report, as income, over $23,000 in a distribution from a retirement plan and other income.

  • banister, jackson, hendrickson (every other tax protester too?) have been found guilty of some form of fraud or tax evation. believe me i'd love their story to be true but it seems farfetched when they're all being levied with fines and/or jail time.

  • @sadkins1

    IT'S CALLED FASCISM.

    TRUTH SEEKERS VIEW FOR FREE: "" AMERICA FREEDOM TO FASCISM "" AND "" THE OBAMA DECEPTION "" ON YOUTUBE AND GOOGLE VIDEO!

  • @sadkins1 it's simple..we are ruled by fear ..and they will go to any length to control you...even hurt or kill you..these folks are telling the truth...and the lie is inforced by a privite Army called police..they are too keep the slaves in line. 7 Million people in jail in the US ....it's all about money. your Judges ..Lawyers and Police are all in on this scam..along with congress. get rid of your strawman!

  • All this foreign company's are just billing your straw man. Once you separate yourself from the straw man u hit them on the balls. There is no law to pay taxes

  • Sherry went to jail NOT because she didnt pay taxes.

    She went to jail because she went to the Masonic courts system and answered "Here" when they called the "dba/person/strawman" known as: SHERRY PEEL JACKSON.

    Therefore, she agreed to the liability of that "dba/person/strawman" and entered into a "compact" agreement also known as: UNITED STATES CITIZEN. And at that time can be prosecuted by the UNITED STATES CODE which says: Federal Income Tax (tribute) CAN be enforced or compulsory.

  • For over 40 years I have told all I knew that paying Federal taxes is illegal. First of all the duties of our Congress and the President was to do the will of people. They are to protect American and it's people. THEY DON'T THAT. ALL MOST WANT IS OUR MONEY TO PAD THEIR PAYCHECKS AND INVESTMENTS.

    Arizona shouldn't pay one centime to the Feds as they are not being protected against the illegal and drug selling, killing and more. When gov't fails to do it's job, they should not receive any money.

  • Call yourself a REAL PATRIOT? Then stop using this fiat money to pay for the Federal Reserve loan which is the only thing our money (taxes) does!

  • Everyone! Please forgive RetSquid!!! He knows not what he does or says!! He has been brainwashed by the federal corporation his whole life!!! He is a slave to them. When the truth is told to the slave he gets taken out of his comfort zoned of slavery and gets mad, confused, defensive, irritated, irrational, frivolous, irrelevant, etc. It's not his fault!!! It's his mommy and daddies fault for being ignorant and signing him into slavery when he was a baby to the federal corporation!

  • @chrishufstetler  LMAO

  • A guy in the Supermarket went for a interview. You may remember the Shmuck.

    He mentioned he enjoyed tutor people with their computers on the side, He didn't charge them anything. But, They didn't f'n care.

    Well, He got it right up the Kistah! real deep.

    Capice.

    Roge

  • I wonder if Mexico is being lied to the same way?

  • "NO TAXATION WITHOUT CLARIFICATION"

  • Is that Borat ??

  • The Constitution contains 4400 words and was meant to be *understood* by everyone.

    The infamous, Tax Code, contains 10,000,000 words and was intended to *steal* from everyone.

    Any questions?

    The 16th Amendment was never legally ratified, (see “The Law That Never Was”) and the income tax has been declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.

    If you care about our country, you need to find ways to stop giving these criminals your money.

  • @KevinMerck

    The bible has more words. Your point?

  • ok at 3:00 im a bit confused. so the constitution says the fed can not place an income tax on us?

  • @duranward The U.S Supreme Court has ruled that the taxing limitation in Art.1, sec.2, clause 3; and Art. 1, Sec. 9

    Clause 4 of the constitution prohibiting the Fed. Gov. from imposing ANY tax directly ON the people, are still in effect. And that the 16th Amend. did NOT nullify those limitations nor authorize any direct tax ON the people. This is not a simple answer to your question, just a place to start.

  • @asicit2b ok thanks a lot i appreciate it

  • taxs pay interest on federal debt. which in turn means -every american works for the profits of a private bank. - the federal reserve.

    "

  • Dang AJ was young looking back then.

  • stihlman37  kennedy was killed in1963 ok

  • @pauldrake2511 John Kennedy was killed in 63 you jack wagon.

  • NOW I DONT REALLY KNOW IF THERE IS A LAW OR NOT? every argument that a tax protseter sayes are thrown out in court and all over then tax code it says when/if required or unless anther wise stated in this code. 6001 6012 sayes when requiered. Can someone plz tell me where it sayes that im required. and dont tell me there it is not a law becuase if there wasnt people wouldnt be thrown in jail for it.

  • This guy belongs in federal prison.

  • @proferic

    Why. Are you a social security scrounger?

  • This guy belongs in federal prison.

  • "A man may be 35 yrs. old and there happens to be some great truth stands at the door of his life ... some great opportunity to stand up for that which is just and that which is right and that which is true. And yet he refuses to do it because he's afraid that somebody may shoot at him ... or he may lose his job ... and he wants to live a long life. He may go on and live until he's 80, but he's just as dead at 35 ..."

    -Martin Luther King Jr.

    MLK would be proud of Joe Banister

  • 44,000 views on this...

    10,400,000 views on this "WORLD RECORD GUITAR SPEED 2007"

    watch?v=O8Wbb8r8PUs

    A perfect example of why were screwed and will probably stay that way for the all eternity.

    Yeah, my dads probably right, i must have PTSD, having it himself, he probably knows.

    "They make it out of nothing, simply because they have the power to FORCE us to use the currency."

    /sigh

  • @nazaxprime

    No offense intended, but people who believe that the view counters on YouTube are accurate are the same people who believe that electronic voting cannot be corrupted.

    There is no basis in reality to believe either one.

    It only makes sense to me that in a country where 70 million people refuse to pay taxes that there would be a lot more views on these videos.

    Now, before you rush to calling me a "conspiracy theorist" think about the undeniable logic of my statement.

  • I feel the same way as you... I was shocked and disappointed at "people" when I saw the the view count on this video clip...

    /sigh...

  • This is the best part of Freedom to Fascism.

    watch?v=nEdb72W_8fQ

    It clearly demonstrates that the IRS is now, and has always been, a very dangerous domestic enemy.

    They are nothing more than criminals, with an appalling racist history, that routinely kick down the doors of innocent people, under color of law, and in this case molested children in their pajamas at gunpoint.

    There is no place in America for the IRS.

  • And that is the most intelligent comment ever posted.

  • GET PISSED OFF AT THE FED !!!

    Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin

    Lazard Brothers Bank of Paris

    Israel Moses Sieff Banks of Italy

    Warburg Bank of Hamburg, Germany and Amsterdam

    Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York

    Lehman Brothers Bank of New York

    Goldman Sachs Bank of New York

    Chase Manhattan Bank of New York (Controlled By the Rockefeller Family)

  • We The People need to ALL band together and say NO MORE!

  • see Oath of Jesuits,Zionst, NeoCon Infiltrated Protestants setting up NWO, see how they stole American Money system google film "FIAT EMPIRE", they have Americans Drugged with NeuroToxin,HexaFluorsiclic ACID falsely labled Sodium, see Films at FluorideAction, take Magnesium Purify water, code name Paper Clip, MkUltra, google Youtube Martial Law, Rex84, Operation Garden Plot, Cathy O'Brian, google Jews VS Zionist,Zionist,Jesuits Financed Hitler, they are the Secret Government, have Judges,Senato

  • Wow, deadadelta... you should work on your writing skills if you want to get any one to listen... this is horrible.

    I'm not being a jerk or being overly judgmental either, just trying to help you out, because reading that... I have no idea what, nor desire to know what you are talking about aside from it being posted in this thread.

    I KNOW youtube has its limitations, but take a sec and compose in notepad if you must.

    Seriously.

  • The Same People that stole the American Money system in 1913 (FIAT EMPIRE) also started the IRS the Same Year (The Law that Never was)

    These same Bankers start WARS then Finance each side.

    Collect interest on loans thru Irs and Social Security money

    These same Groups have Practiced Baby Ritual Sacrafice For many Generations, Google Jewish Baby Ritual Murder, Anton Lavey Church of Satan, FBI TED GUNDERSON exposed CIA Stanism

    These same groups have Americans Drugged (NeuroToxin)

  • This NeuroToxin is Primary ingredient in RAT POISON, NERVE GAS BOMBS, its Damaging every Organ in the Human Dog Cat and they have Paid MultiMillions to Horse owners.

    Watch FILMS at FluorideAction and FluorideAlert. and Read Scientific Studies.

  • The People that Own the FEDERAL RESERVE worship from the TALMUD BIBLE, google Ted Pike the Other Side of Israel.

    google Jews vs Zionist Jews

    Real Jews say Zionist have no Soul, for they Financed Hitler

  • The SCOTUS has declared an income tax unconstitutional numerous times throughout our nations history. The Sixteenth was never legally ratified and the SCOTUS has ruled more than once that it gives the government no new powers of taxation.

    Watch Freedom to Fascism

  • CIA Operated Aerial Spraying Plane Carrying "Mutated" Virus Shot Down in China:

  • welcome to america, the place where they take money from hard working people and give it to lazy mother fuckers. the time to revolt is now.stop letting this steal from us arm your self NOW!!!!!!

  • @sparky41684 You first.

  • already started

  • Go to Google video and watch "Freedom to Fascism" 53:00 - 58:00 to see witnesses describe what happened during a home invasion by IRS gangsters and perverts.

    Watch the whole video, but if you only want to hear about the pervert agent who stuck his foot in the bedroom door of 4 young women trying to get dressed that's all you need to see.

    Anyone not completely outraged by this criminal behavior is a sick and disgusting pervert that does not deserve to live in this country.

  • I'm open to the possibility that the income tax is actually illegal; I found, however, good information to the contrary. Can anyone discredit these voices?

    1) VOLUNTARY

    (no links allowed?)

    2) RATIFICATION

    3) NO LAW

  • @areyes999

    I've been researching this information for about a month now, and I've come to conclusions for myself:

    Since there is no law requiring United States citizens to file, then yes, it's voluntary. Whether the 16th amendment was ratified or not doesn't change the fact that the tax doesn't apply to a citizen.

    The thing is, you have to read the code and regulations for yourself and come to your own conclusions.

  • @josda1000. That's what I was thinking until I found a site that presented the argument that the IRS Code, which obligates payment, was made law by Congress and is therefore law.

    See this site (without the spaces):

    docs . law . gwu . edu / facweb / jsiegel /Personal/ taxes / JustNoLaw .htm

    Also, click where it says "click here" for the first time.

    This was the best info I found in support of the established understanding.

    Please let me know if I should have cause to continue doubt.

  • No tax codes are legal WHEN THERE IS NO LAW YOU HAVE TO PAY INCOME TAXES!!!

  • I liked this video and I think I must agreee with its core message, although it could have been presented more clearly. But I "laughed out loud" at ca. 4:05, where I believe the interviewer says: "... and that's why you're rare, well, more and more people are..."

  • thanks for posting this. good stuff.

  • and if you think you cant beat the irs your wrong there's tons of cases being won all the time now.

  • i hate watching this cause it pisses me off so much. i have belived in this for so long. wille nelson didn't pay taxes for ever, he wrote a book saying he smoked weed in the white house and boom they hit him. our government is fucked up. look up what the president at the time when the 16th amendment was just put in. he says he ruined his country buy doing this.

  • Anyone interested in the truth needs to listen to honest professionals like Sherry Jackson, Joe Banister and many others. Watch the videos available on the subject, and most of all, stop living in fear of your own government.

    When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty - Thomas Jefferson

    Scare the hell out of these criminals by refusing to pay the federal income tax.

  • @KevinMerck ,,, Talk is cheap, America is drowning in tyranny and self destruction..

  • @KevinMerck

    We the people can only make a difference if you get off your computers to vote in 2012 - Ron Paul. Tax evasion will get you free housing at your not-friendly federal pen with Wesley Snipes and Sherry Peel Jackson and soon Joe Banister.

  • @MrSupernova111

    FYI, asshole, this is a Republic, not a democracy.

    We don’t vote to uphold the Constitution, we uphold it or face the consequences.

    People like you will soon be in the prisons you threaten others with. Go ahead and laugh, asshole, because you won't be laughing when the reality of prison sets in.

  • @KevinMerck

    Yeah sure... keep getting your education from youtube...

    I pay my taxes so I'm not worried. You completely ignored what I said and went into a rant about democracy. I hope for your own sake you quit wasting time on youtube and go to real sources for information. Good day sir!

  • @MrSupernova111 gO FUCK YOURSELF MUTHAFUCKER, YOU GOT SHIT! IDIOT!

  • @rdknight6

    Have fun in jail tax evader!! I guarantee you Joe Banister and the clan will be just fine selling their books after you go to jail!!! LMAO

  • @KevinMerck

    I turns out Joe Banister is a hoax. He willfully misled his client Thompson to not withdraw or report his employees taxes which landed Thompson in jail. However Joe Banister himself admits to pay his taxes which is why he is not in jail. Banister has written books and sells materials on tax evasion shelter information from which he reaps a large profit at the expense of the suckers that buy his materials and risk going to jail.

    He is also rumored to be a mold for the IRS.

  • Go SEE: " Tom CRYER, the PLAN "

  • Tax arguments are not easily settled bcuz

    people get very emotional on the very notion that tax code isn't genuine law.

    Joe is no nutcase and the fact that he may have spent time in jail for his alleged tax crimes is not proof that his beliefs

    were wrong or factually incorrect. As

    I've said before,if the paying of

    taxes on ones wages is based on "voluntary compliance", as

    the IRS says in their own agent

    training manuals, then you cannot

    be punished for not paying them. The

    IRS bluffs.

  • Or pay the fines. Geitner did not pay any penalties.

  • YOU don't have to pay taxes if your CHARLIE RANGEL

  • wikipedia joe for fun facts... lisence revoked, went to court several time for trying to avoid paying taxes. There were plenty of laws he was charged with violating all related to not paying taxes. Go figure, i guess there ARE laws out there saying you have to pay taxes. If you follow alex jones you're still drinking the cool aid people.

    TITLE 26 > Subtitle A > CHAPTER 1 > Subchapter A > PART I > § 1

    clear as DAY debunked in 10 seconds...

  • That argument as proof is debunked in 10 seconds.

    That section does not define multiple necessary qualifiers:

    Source of income (domestic or foreign)

    Residency (domestic or foreign)

    Citizenship (US or alien)

    By just that section, my brother is liable. He's never lived here.

  • People, what everyone needs to do is learn EXACTLY what the code says, and this is very important, HOW it says it. The code IS constitutional, yet taxing your private sector, unprivileged receipts is not. So, how can this be? You have told, and have allowed others to tell the Government your pay IS taxable so they tax you. How the hell did I do that you say? Find out the way I did. Google CRACKING THE CODE by Peter Hendrickson. Go to his website and start reading. Wake-up from the Matrix people

  • Sherry Peel Jackson and Joe Banister (both former IRS agents and Certified Public Accountants) have said that 67 million people are not paying federal income tax.

    Watch all of their videos. Also watch Freedom to Fascism and Larken Rose's Theft by Deception to learn more.

    This is about preserving the Constitution and the Republic for which it stands. If you care about our country you need to stop giving these criminals your money.

  • Actually, they are no longer CPAs. Both have served time in prison. Their arguments didn't work for themselves or others.

    Yes, 67 million or more do not pay income tax, but it's not because of delusional tax protester arguments, but because they're as broke as a joke. A family of 4 making $40k per year does not make enough money to be taxed.