I remember when they said this was a "sibling" relationship. If I stared at my brother like that, my parents would call DCF and Dick Wolf would make our case an episode of SVU.
They have the BEST pair IMO, second only to LukexTear. It's like together, but not "Let me strangle and choke you with our diabetes LloydxColet MartaxEmil LUV"
Although I like when Yuri and Judy flirt. She's like his hot bro. "I appreciate your hotness, and that you do your thing. Much Respect" And she's like "word"
So there's Raven and Karol's Talk, Rita and Judith's, then Yuri and Estelle's. So in the PS3 version do Patty and Repede chat it up? XD It could happen.
That makes sense. Although I know very little about Patty's personality. (My spoken conversational Japanese is spotty at best and I only know 8 characters written, and I've been trying to learn German, so my chances of understanding the PS3 version are zero to none.) I'd like to see that though.
@PHILOSYNC Yeah. Some couples lay the romance on so thick it becomes nauseating (i'm looking at you MartaXEmil) Here I'm glad they let us feel it without forcing anything.
And I don't see why you perceive it as brother and sister just because Yuri tries to help and support Estelle. Part of being in relationship is encouragement, support and helping one another grow; not meaningless flirtation that doesn't go anywhere.
@Chrno34 You my friend...should be the next...Dr. Phil. I'm tired of this hollywood love BS. This is true love, even if he doesn't mjust come out and say it
I see what you mean. Some people think Yuri and Judith would make a good couple just because of stuff they have in common. I personally don't see anything between them because not only would their relationship not go anywhere, but because she just flirts meaninglessly.
Exactly! The point of a relationship is having someone you can always count on to have your best intrests at heart. To be there for you, and even to tell you your flaws to help turn you into a better person. That's what makes it worth while. You both grow and better yourselves throughout your lives and take on the world together. Estelle helps Yuri too. She's taught him that unwavering kindness that is so freely givin. Yuri has become more trusting of people then he once was.
@KlineStife that will happen regardless, besides the kinda do get together in the end of this game anyhow, they dont need to say the words i love you out loud for them to show they have feelings for eachother, his scene is a love confession in disguise realy,
you know what ive noticed? the more UST a couple has built, the more fanfiction there will be. that would explain why there are so many fanfiction of pokemon.
if they said "i love you", that would go aways as to having them ignore this couple, and move on to other couples. (most of them nonsense)
@KlineStife yah, but some of them shouldnt be completed cause some dont exist, like FFXIII, love that game to death and all but its fanbase is retarted, for some reaosn peopl,e think hope and vannile is a couple when vannile is 19 and hope is 14, and without spoiling it the ending makes sure that they will never see eachother ever again, ide kill to see them go away but if that means completing that plot then ide prefer they kept it unfinished
@ES21007 I think Yuri said it in a teasing way? And the term doesn't necessarily have to be used in its strictest sense; he could be commenting on her boldness, for instance. (shrug)
@ES21007 for the time shown, (medieval era/renaissance era) i'm sure girls were expected to be lady-like as in staying at home and cooking or having kids.
in most rpg games their is always a hint of the female and male lead being romantically involved scene but Tales of vesperia was like pshhhh watch this yuri nonchalantly plays it off like hes some hot shit lol Yuri is the best and most down to earth main character i ever played hes uber l33t!
I like how in this game the relationship between Yuri and Estelle is not shoved in your face, compared to the other games in the series. It's hinted at, especially in this scene, but it never really gets too obvious. To me, it seems that Yuri just wants to protect his friends, and to keep travelling with them as they are now, just like he said: It fits him. He is someone who doesn't show his feelings that well to other people, and has a darker side, which is shown very well in the game.
@SeraphimSwordmaster This game was just a big suprise! Never played before a Tales game, but this game was much darker than I was expected ( c'mon, I dare anybody says that bricks weren't shat when Yuri went Vigilante on that scantily cladded commander). Seriously, I thought "LOL now what?!?! Hot "Yuri Action" ( God that joke was horrible). I'm glad a played this game for it assures me that JRPGS still got it"
I suppose that there might be some sort of love between Yuri and Estelle. Though they might try to figure out whether or not they are made for each other.
I was once told by someone wizened in the ways of the world that roughly 90% of what someone says is in their tone, not their words, and there were a lot of unsaid things in their tone during that particular conversation.
Other than this and a previous scene...one also must look at the ending illustrations.
Yuri and Estelle are together in many scenes there. A notably funny one would be in Yuri's room where his eyes are closed and Estelle's pinching his nose.
I think that throughout the whole game, these two are still trying to decide if they like each other. It's like a pre-relationship, you're still trying to decide if you want to go farther with that person. Really, there's not enough to hint that they love each other, but there's plenty to suggest that they might be able to have a relationship. Personally, I don't really see any chemistry between Estelle and Yuri. They care about each other, that's for sure.
L: I have friends and...you... I can finally think of myself as me.
E: And I'll be able to stay with everyone. With you.
The emphasis on "you" really matters here. I'm not sure if the connection was intentional but it adds even more to a scene that requires a certain amount of analyzing. I don't think that necessarily makes the Yuri/Estelle relationship romance (like in Abyss) but it is interesting.
I think this like most of Vesperia has the promise of romance but it mild in its attempts. I believe they did that on purpose, its the flavor of the game if you will.
However, several lines from this scene definitelly hearken back to the Luke/Tear night before scene. From 3:00 onward Estelle sounds a lot like Luke telling Tear that instead of being scared for what is to come he's happy in the moment. Yuri even reiterates what Tear does, that they'll both live on. (c)
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Yuri's a nob most of the time. He only speaks normally with estelle because he like her, judith because she has big melons, and duke because duke can kick his ass. He treats Ioder (yoda lol) like dirt even though Ioders always respectful towards him and he always comes out with the most cheesiest lines at the wrong times like in boss fights, totally destroying the climax. His character should have been so much better but they messed it up.
In every Tales of game since Phantasia and onward the Hero is always with the Heroine even if they don't say it out loud it's obvious all the main hero and heroines are in love in every Tales of game. If you don't know Yuri and Estelle are canon they you haven't played enough Tales of games in your lifetime. xDD
well it does not seem like a relationship because through out the game yuri always tells estelle "be careful , is that what you really want? , ill help you , estelle think about this dont, do that" where yuri and judith actually flirted with each other at times
Their flirting was meant to be playful at best. Yuri acknowledges that Judith is hot and Judith liked to tease him. That's all. They never connected on a deep emotional level like Yuri and Estelle have. And Yuri asking Estelle to do what she wants is him respecting her wishes and wanting her to be independent. He was being supportive of her and trying to help her grow, not by encroaching her decisions with his own wants, but by letting her make her own choices.
I honestly don't think these two are supposed to be a pairing, and I'm glad about it. It gets boring for the main hero and heroine to have a love story in every jRPG you play. >_>
Only the kids seem to be concerned with signification of things like love or a pairing between the two. This scene was about disclosure and resolve more than anything.
He's probably one of the most calm, overly confident, prudent, and benevolent protagonists to ever spawn out of an rpg, not to mention the sickest fighter of the tales series... Kratos is a close second. =P
kaychan4uu-Um, what do you mean "some?" The game broadcasts the pairing since the first time they met. The characters within game point it out, the interactions and moments themselves are hard evidence; the Abyss Complete Guide by Namco features and listed them as the official pairings of the game, along with AschxNatalia, VanxLegretta and CecillexFrings; and even the creators have stated that they're a couple.
I don't know what game you were playing for you to say that.
It isn't available in English and I'm unaware if there's a english translation online(you can try looking though). I had my japanese penpal who used to attend highschool with me translate his copy of the book for me into English via emailed scans.
Yuri and Estelle together would NEVER work. It's like Luke and Tear. Luke didn't like Tear that way (despite what some fans of the pairing say) and Yuri doesn't feel the same about Estelle. It's usually the chicks that have the feelings, not the guys.
Luke loves Tear and she loves him back....It's pretty obvious...he writes about it in his diary and wants to confess to her before going to Eldrant but he was too afraid and didn't. Impossible as it may seem guys have feelings too...O_O
Hell, that whole scene in Eldrant to made it obvious to anyone that he was going confess without even needing to look at the diary. A person would have to be as dense as Luke or Lloyd to say that Luke and Tear didn't have feelings for one another when over 90% of the scenes featuring them together was beating you over the head with it, especially after he changed.
And damn right, we guys have feelings. Just because we're a little thick-headed doesn't mean we aren't romantics too.
Namco made their feelings for each other pretty obvious. There were scenes, skits and Luke's thoughts in his diary that told you. Luke and Tear had great chemistry. The problem I see with Yuri and Estelle, is that there's not enough chemistry. They don't partner up like Luke and Tear do when they are in the company of others and alone.
Personally, I wouldn't describe their relationship as "brother/sister"...come on, that's hardly the right way of describing them. A brother/sister has a more different feeling...In my opinion, Karol and Rita are closer to being brother/sister than Yuri and Estelle. To me, this clip clearly shows that the two of them have mutual feelings for each other, but I guess you could also depict them as close friends. Not quite brother/sister, in my opinion...
@ch0cochipCookie I know its a year comment. But thats what I loved about Vesperia. Their relationship, to me, its obvious they're in love, but its never forced its naturally there. Fits well.
"..I'll be able to stay with everyone. With you." (long romantic stare) That heavily suggests they are in love. He is protective of Estelle, but who keeps bringing up the whole sibling deal? Do they actually have to come out and say it before you believe it?
I don't understand it either. There are hundreds of game/anime couples that express love without ever saying the words. Inuyasha's never come out and said he loves Kagome, but everyone with at least half of a brain knows that he does for a fact. Same with Kenshin and Kaoru from RK. You don't necessarily need words in order to convey and understand romantic intent or context(especially in this scene where it's practically beating you over the head that they have feelings for one another).
To me Yuri and Judith had a more girlfriendXboyfriend relationships at times. With Estelle and Yuri pretty much was like a brother n sister relationship he was always pretty much ''be careful Estelle, don't do this, follow what your dreams ill help you'' kinda things. IDK thou that's just me. and pretty much they gave out some details that flyns the perfect guy for estelle
he still sees her like a girlfriend beacause if you paid attention to the scene he would have just went all out and killed her but he tried to break the hold alexi had on her body
Leave it to Namco to have Yuri say something so open-ended: "I feel the same way." =\
Just like tman2max said, Namco rarely makes anything official. Basically, if you think they're a couple, they're a couple and you can prove it; if you think they're just friends, they're just friends and you can prove it.
They remind me of Senel and Shirley, too; they considered themselves siblings, but something else developed. Maybe the movie (yes, I know it's a prequel) will give us more clues.
I kinda wished they could've done a REAL love confession for Yuri and Estelle like they did for Emil and Marta in DotNW. Too bad that game came out after Vesperia.
While it would be nice if Estelle and Yuri would've openly confessed like Marta and Emil, I kinda like the indirect approach in this case. It seems to suit them and it's (arguably) more romantic IMHO.
I agree with you. Indirect or silent confessions are often the kind of confessions/romance I like, I mostly say a direct confession would've been better because then we wouldn't have the whole problem of "They're siblings!", "They're friends!", "No, blind people, they love each other!".
@Chrno34 Definitely. It's good that they didn't lay on the romance too thickly. People who like Yuri/Estelle would've felt the emotional intensity of the scene and people who don't like them together are able to make their own judgment that it was a good character development scene (and not necessarily hinting of romance).
I feel the opposite, I'm glad they didn't. It lets fan decide who should be with who. (I prefer Rita/Estelle) Plus, I don't really like Emil, but meh.
Plus, Senny still looks like he hasn't decided between Shirl and Chloe. So far Chlo's been in RM2, but they push the first pairing in RM, the second in 2.
loI while I like the idea of them being a couple, it wouldn't be weird for them to feel like siblings. But as we know from Legendia, being "siblings" is a feeling that can grow. Senel and Shirley.
And isn't it the Tales way to not give closure on couples? The only couple that for sure happened is Stan, and Rutee from Destiny, since they have Kyle of Destiny 2. :/ Other then that is always left open. ^^ Which is fine.
Ah well, these two are still shipped as the couple of Vesperia.
I remember in this one GameFAQs forum post, someone was so obsessed with the idea of Yuri and Estelle together that he/she thought they got married in the end, and their only evidence was this scene and this one sketch in the ending montage showing those two in the same building. >__>;;
Ain't it just safe to say they have a brother/sister relationship? It'd make more sense that way.
I don't know about you but this is the first main Tales protagonists couple that I don't know what to think about their relationship. In my mind, they don't get higher than the "good friends" level ^^'
i see it more like that estelle wants something more (there are a few skits in wich the other tease estelle about how she feels about yuri) but yuri doesnt. i think that is yuri the one who sees estelle as her younger sister. she doesnt see him that way in my opinion
check the videos from omegaevolution, he recorded all the skits and i remember watching it on his videos. be warned that there are a lot of videos and finding it may take a while, but its a funny skit.
Well, There was that one with Raven where he keeps saying they're together after Yuri wins the coliseum fight. Then Yuri counters "If you're cheering for me, aren't we getting close old man?" (-_- ' ...uh...). Then the other one where Raven and Judy force the same idea. Rita comes in and somehow managed to make it worse...
Oh man, you mean the guy was joking? Well, he definitely managed to tick me off. ;-;
In my honest opinion, Yuri and Estelle are definitely better off having a brother/sister relationship, or simply "good friends" like another person mentioned. (Is it so wrong to NOT have an intimate relationship? Is it wrong to be simply friends?) I like the poetry of how Yuri is like "the morning star Brave Vesperia" and Estelle is "the child of the full moon", but THAT MAN MADE ME MAD.
soo... is yuri in love with Estelle or what...?
graviron 2 days ago
I remember when they said this was a "sibling" relationship. If I stared at my brother like that, my parents would call DCF and Dick Wolf would make our case an episode of SVU.
They have the BEST pair IMO, second only to LukexTear. It's like together, but not "Let me strangle and choke you with our diabetes LloydxColet MartaxEmil LUV"
Although I like when Yuri and Judy flirt. She's like his hot bro. "I appreciate your hotness, and that you do your thing. Much Respect" And she's like "word"
FilleAtomique02 1 month ago 3
Repede was like: Do your thing boss. *leaves* Call me when your done.
jervinjervin 1 month ago
was that a tiny judith on rapedes back?
bomberguy06 2 months ago
They looks so good together! They should get married. ^^
113makoto1 4 months ago
Overdrive Lady.... ruining any serious cutscene.
JosiahDaAsian 6 months ago
Ahhh the cutest couple ever. This scene and a lot of other ones I saw just screamed YurixEstelle! -3 they're adorable together.
TanoshiiProductions 6 months ago
Estelle: Heh heh it's warm. *is sitting in dog shit*
LegendOfLink5130 6 months ago 4
3:26 to 3:33 would have been literally the perfect chance for Yuri to have moved in.
nevrest 8 months ago
So there's Raven and Karol's Talk, Rita and Judith's, then Yuri and Estelle's. So in the PS3 version do Patty and Repede chat it up? XD It could happen.
PredictableEnigma 8 months ago
@PredictableEnigma Patty and Flynn have a scene in the PS3 version.
PikohanRevenge 8 months ago
@PikohanRevenge
That makes sense. Although I know very little about Patty's personality. (My spoken conversational Japanese is spotty at best and I only know 8 characters written, and I've been trying to learn German, so my chances of understanding the PS3 version are zero to none.) I'd like to see that though.
PredictableEnigma 8 months ago
Repede... has a tiny Judith riding on his back. That's... kinda... hot.
PredictableEnigma 8 months ago
Hahaha, I love the Judith doll so much...
MultiMrLR 8 months ago
@PHILOSYNC Yeah. Some couples lay the romance on so thick it becomes nauseating (i'm looking at you MartaXEmil) Here I'm glad they let us feel it without forcing anything.
eltsoldier 9 months ago
OF COURSE YOUR NOT SCARE,ESTELLE! Your with Yuri :D
DerpBox 9 months ago
And I don't see why you perceive it as brother and sister just because Yuri tries to help and support Estelle. Part of being in relationship is encouragement, support and helping one another grow; not meaningless flirtation that doesn't go anywhere.
Chrno34 9 months ago
@Chrno34 You my friend...should be the next...Dr. Phil. I'm tired of this hollywood love BS. This is true love, even if he doesn't mjust come out and say it
DanteWolfwood 9 months ago 2
@Chrno34
I see what you mean. Some people think Yuri and Judith would make a good couple just because of stuff they have in common. I personally don't see anything between them because not only would their relationship not go anywhere, but because she just flirts meaninglessly.
XReinaxxx 9 months ago
@Chrno34
Exactly! The point of a relationship is having someone you can always count on to have your best intrests at heart. To be there for you, and even to tell you your flaws to help turn you into a better person. That's what makes it worth while. You both grow and better yourselves throughout your lives and take on the world together. Estelle helps Yuri too. She's taught him that unwavering kindness that is so freely givin. Yuri has become more trusting of people then he once was.
PredictableEnigma 8 months ago
@PredictableEnigma don't forget she healz him when he fell from zaude :D (just to add)
rose6211 8 months ago
and yet, this couple never resolves itself like MOST FUCKING RPGs.
KlineStife 11 months ago
@KlineStife umm if you havnt noticed litterly 95% of the rpgs that resolve the romance the MC dies at the end
jsh020 10 months ago
@jsh020
well, then let him die =/. stupid fanfictions are screwing thise couple up
KlineStife 10 months ago
@KlineStife that will happen regardless, besides the kinda do get together in the end of this game anyhow, they dont need to say the words i love you out loud for them to show they have feelings for eachother, his scene is a love confession in disguise realy,
jsh020 10 months ago
@jsh020
you know what ive noticed? the more UST a couple has built, the more fanfiction there will be. that would explain why there are so many fanfiction of pokemon.
if they said "i love you", that would go aways as to having them ignore this couple, and move on to other couples. (most of them nonsense)
KlineStife 10 months ago
@KlineStife yah, but some of them shouldnt be completed cause some dont exist, like FFXIII, love that game to death and all but its fanbase is retarted, for some reaosn peopl,e think hope and vannile is a couple when vannile is 19 and hope is 14, and without spoiling it the ending makes sure that they will never see eachother ever again, ide kill to see them go away but if that means completing that plot then ide prefer they kept it unfinished
jsh020 10 months ago
I love this couple, but...
Estelle is NOT a tomboy. That's more of Rita. Has she even done one thing to constitute her that way?
meh, still ok.
ES21007 1 year ago 2
@ES21007 I think Yuri said it in a teasing way? And the term doesn't necessarily have to be used in its strictest sense; he could be commenting on her boldness, for instance. (shrug)
PHILOSYNC 9 months ago
@PHILOSYNC
As you have said, good point.
ES21007 9 months ago
@ES21007 for the time shown, (medieval era/renaissance era) i'm sure girls were expected to be lady-like as in staying at home and cooking or having kids.
thevoiceofreason94 6 months ago
@justcuzimwhite43
In TLH (spoiler) Edge and Reimi have rings on their hands in Reimi's ending, and in Legendia it's not sure whether he likes Shirley or Chloe.
ES21007 1 year ago
in most rpg games their is always a hint of the female and male lead being romantically involved scene but Tales of vesperia was like pshhhh watch this yuri nonchalantly plays it off like hes some hot shit lol Yuri is the best and most down to earth main character i ever played hes uber l33t!
TushaiLeingod 1 year ago
Is it me or did everyone just missed out on that cute mini Judith on Repede's back? xD
Yuri x Estelle for the win <3
rukiaismylove 1 year ago
(= * _ *=)
DeathCeroHollow 1 year ago
holy damn!!!
heyyguys08 1 year ago
aww da sweetest moments in da game :D
rose6211 1 year ago
@justcuzimwhite43 what other Jrpg have you played that love is always implied?
caboosefromrvbrulz 1 year ago
"With you." Is what makes it a confession.
CartoonIslandTV 1 year ago
Estelle : And I' ll be able to stay with everyone , with you ....
It .. so ... wonderfulll ( sniff) . It makes me cry ! Yuri X Estelle forever !
Hinata2592 1 year ago 3
I like how in this game the relationship between Yuri and Estelle is not shoved in your face, compared to the other games in the series. It's hinted at, especially in this scene, but it never really gets too obvious. To me, it seems that Yuri just wants to protect his friends, and to keep travelling with them as they are now, just like he said: It fits him. He is someone who doesn't show his feelings that well to other people, and has a darker side, which is shown very well in the game.
supermagnumforce 1 year ago 6
This is my favourite scene ever in ToV.
YuriXEstelle 1 year ago 2
This scene feels like it just SCREAMS yuri x estelle
xD
I dont really see how they have a sibling relationship, from what I see AND HEAR!
o.o
MissPockyx3 1 year ago 3
Estelle: and I'll be able to stay with everyone...WITH YOU....
*awkward staring* O-O
Yuri: Thanks, I FEEL THE SAME WAY
oh man! that made my heart move! xD
miakulit 1 year ago 7
The 3 people that disliked this are Yuri x Raven fans.
isko1002 1 year ago 3
@isko1002 OH GOD, NO! THE MENTAL IMAGE! MY MIND'S EYE! IT BURNS!
SeraphimSwordmaster 1 year ago
Ahh.. I was squealing during that romantic stare.. Q u Q
VocaloidNekoChan 1 year ago 4
it suggest they have a thing for eachother but it doesn't go anywhere so
they are just close friends, i blame rita because she just wants estelle to herself.
83myaccount 1 year ago
DAMMIT NAMCO BANDAI, JUST MAKE THEM THE OFFICIAL COUPLE ALREADY!
Kytseo 1 year ago 6
they look so cute 2gether XD
*sigh* i wish they wouuld kiss :D
SasukeUchiha7233 1 year ago
i wish all the previous tales games get remade for next gen consoles, i tried looking for tales of the abyss... couldnt find it anywhere
FF18Cloud 1 year ago
@FF18Cloud Gamestop just put it up for sale on their website. Though you have to go to the store to buy it.
Celia104 1 year ago
@FF18Cloud
3DS. Yes it's coming out for the console. For Nintendo.
ES21007 1 year ago
LOL...That moment they were staring each other Yuri was tottaly like " Must...not...break...Poker Face..."
D8Killer 1 year ago 46
@D8Killer I agree wholeheartedly.
SeraphimSwordmaster 1 year ago
@SeraphimSwordmaster This game was just a big suprise! Never played before a Tales game, but this game was much darker than I was expected ( c'mon, I dare anybody says that bricks weren't shat when Yuri went Vigilante on that scantily cladded commander). Seriously, I thought "LOL now what?!?! Hot "Yuri Action" ( God that joke was horrible). I'm glad a played this game for it assures me that JRPGS still got it"
D8Killer 1 year ago
Vesperia + Abyss = Awesomeness beyond measure.
FanaticTrent 1 year ago 5
@FanaticTrent Abyss + Symphonia = Awesome beyond measure.
Dsurvivor21stCentury 1 year ago
Judith doll leaving the screen to make room for Estelle to be next to Yuri.
OMG SYMBOLISM
AceAcetate 1 year ago 18
this doesnt officially prove they like each other. they are best friends. they wanna stay together. >=(
halfwolf66 1 year ago
@halfwolf66
And how often do best friends in RPG's get together. >_>
Cypher0120 1 year ago
SHE MADE REPPEDE GO AWAY! come back doggie!...TT>TT
AbsoluteCero 2 years ago 4
If the dog leaves voluntarily to give them some alone time, it knows something.
Cypher0120 2 years ago 49
I suppose that there might be some sort of love between Yuri and Estelle. Though they might try to figure out whether or not they are made for each other.
VelLucio 2 years ago 13
I was once told by someone wizened in the ways of the world that roughly 90% of what someone says is in their tone, not their words, and there were a lot of unsaid things in their tone during that particular conversation.
uniquityincarnate 2 years ago 8
ooh man dat cute :d
go gett her yuri b:
Lucykinz96 2 years ago 4
tales of symphonia 2: dawn of the new world referance at 03:10,if you get the joke at 01:45-01:57 then you have a sick mind like me.
ThalassianBloodKing 2 years ago
Other than this and a previous scene...one also must look at the ending illustrations.
Yuri and Estelle are together in many scenes there. A notably funny one would be in Yuri's room where his eyes are closed and Estelle's pinching his nose.
Cypher0120 2 years ago 2
I think that throughout the whole game, these two are still trying to decide if they like each other. It's like a pre-relationship, you're still trying to decide if you want to go farther with that person. Really, there's not enough to hint that they love each other, but there's plenty to suggest that they might be able to have a relationship. Personally, I don't really see any chemistry between Estelle and Yuri. They care about each other, that's for sure.
Makilore 2 years ago 4
And that's what fanfiction is for.
Gawain4991 2 years ago 10
Urge to say this again:
"Thou art I and I am thou.
Thou shalt have our blessing when thou choosest to create a Persona of the Lovers Arcana.
The Estelle Social Link has reached level 9!
Cypher0120 2 years ago 9
(c)Estelle even uses the exact wording Luke uses.
L: I have friends and...you... I can finally think of myself as me.
E: And I'll be able to stay with everyone. With you.
The emphasis on "you" really matters here. I'm not sure if the connection was intentional but it adds even more to a scene that requires a certain amount of analyzing. I don't think that necessarily makes the Yuri/Estelle relationship romance (like in Abyss) but it is interesting.
Lycorisx 2 years ago 15
I think this like most of Vesperia has the promise of romance but it mild in its attempts. I believe they did that on purpose, its the flavor of the game if you will.
However, several lines from this scene definitelly hearken back to the Luke/Tear night before scene. From 3:00 onward Estelle sounds a lot like Luke telling Tear that instead of being scared for what is to come he's happy in the moment. Yuri even reiterates what Tear does, that they'll both live on. (c)
Lycorisx 2 years ago 6
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uniquityincarnate 2 years ago
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Yuri's a nob most of the time. He only speaks normally with estelle because he like her, judith because she has big melons, and duke because duke can kick his ass. He treats Ioder (yoda lol) like dirt even though Ioders always respectful towards him and he always comes out with the most cheesiest lines at the wrong times like in boss fights, totally destroying the climax. His character should have been so much better but they messed it up.
darktee 2 years ago
In every Tales of game since Phantasia and onward the Hero is always with the Heroine even if they don't say it out loud it's obvious all the main hero and heroines are in love in every Tales of game. If you don't know Yuri and Estelle are canon they you haven't played enough Tales of games in your lifetime. xDD
MercenaryTidus 2 years ago 6
well it does not seem like a relationship because through out the game yuri always tells estelle "be careful , is that what you really want? , ill help you , estelle think about this dont, do that" where yuri and judith actually flirted with each other at times
Temptest09 2 years ago
@Temptest09
Their flirting was meant to be playful at best. Yuri acknowledges that Judith is hot and Judith liked to tease him. That's all. They never connected on a deep emotional level like Yuri and Estelle have. And Yuri asking Estelle to do what she wants is him respecting her wishes and wanting her to be independent. He was being supportive of her and trying to help her grow, not by encroaching her decisions with his own wants, but by letting her make her own choices.
Chrno34 9 months ago 2
Or, maybe their Social Link is at around Level Eight or Nine at this point.
Once it gets to Level Ten...
Cypher0120 2 years ago
I honestly don't think these two are supposed to be a pairing, and I'm glad about it. It gets boring for the main hero and heroine to have a love story in every jRPG you play. >_>
LunarEcli 2 years ago
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uniquityincarnate 2 years ago
3:24 - 3:35
I still say that's cute. Also...
If this was slightly like Persona, this scene would definitely have given Yuri or Estelle their final Personas or something. Hehe.
Cypher0120 2 years ago
Only the kids seem to be concerned with signification of things like love or a pairing between the two. This scene was about disclosure and resolve more than anything.
Zooftastic 2 years ago
Yup. I totally agree.
AntithesisRebirth 2 years ago
are there any other scenes estelle x yuri? haven't rly seen any
ARandomMind 2 years ago
When Estelle discovers Yuri alive after falling off Zaude.
That screams YuriXEstelle in your ear, imo.
narwhals1 2 years ago 5
they should make one for nintendo ds and dsi
xJesusForeverx 2 years ago 10
Three Tales games have been released for the DS: Tales of Hearts, Tales of Innocence, and Tales of the Tempest.
PikohanRevenge 2 years ago 3
thank you:)
xJesusForeverx 2 years ago
@PikohanRevenge i never heard of them
doomfire675 1 year ago
@PikohanRevenge
And TOA. Yes, they are making TOA FOR DS!
ES21007 9 months ago
@xJesusForeverx
Tales of The abyss is coming for 3DS.
ES21007 1 year ago
I would like A kiss in that scene! Estelle x Yuri! <3
WizukoGR 2 years ago 5
no that would ruin the game
darktee 2 years ago
I'm not sure. Maybe I'm just saying that because I'm a girl, but I think there many things in the game wich would say:Yuri loves Estelle.
But somehow there people how think that Yuri loves Judy...
Well,Maybe we are lucky and there'll be a second part of Tales of vesperia. Then we'll know...
WizukoGR 2 years ago
May I ask why you think so? I mean.... I thought about this for a cuple of time, but I still don't know, why you think so.....
WizukoGR 2 years ago
3:11
I see what they did thar,
new world about to dawn.
hehehe. . .
ihave2cows 2 years ago
Ahh Yuri Lowell... *man crush sigh*
He's probably one of the most calm, overly confident, prudent, and benevolent protagonists to ever spawn out of an rpg, not to mention the sickest fighter of the tales series... Kratos is a close second. =P
Vrojimmy 2 years ago 3
kaychan4uu-Um, what do you mean "some?" The game broadcasts the pairing since the first time they met. The characters within game point it out, the interactions and moments themselves are hard evidence; the Abyss Complete Guide by Namco features and listed them as the official pairings of the game, along with AschxNatalia, VanxLegretta and CecillexFrings; and even the creators have stated that they're a couple.
I don't know what game you were playing for you to say that.
Chrno34 2 years ago
Where can I find this "Complete Guide" and is there an online translation I can read?
Kirvee2 2 years ago
It isn't available in English and I'm unaware if there's a english translation online(you can try looking though). I had my japanese penpal who used to attend highschool with me translate his copy of the book for me into English via emailed scans.
Chrno34 2 years ago
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Yuri and Estelle together would NEVER work. It's like Luke and Tear. Luke didn't like Tear that way (despite what some fans of the pairing say) and Yuri doesn't feel the same about Estelle. It's usually the chicks that have the feelings, not the guys.
kaychan4uu 2 years ago
Luke loves Tear and she loves him back....It's pretty obvious...he writes about it in his diary and wants to confess to her before going to Eldrant but he was too afraid and didn't. Impossible as it may seem guys have feelings too...O_O
DarkStar0303 2 years ago 11
Hell, that whole scene in Eldrant to made it obvious to anyone that he was going confess without even needing to look at the diary. A person would have to be as dense as Luke or Lloyd to say that Luke and Tear didn't have feelings for one another when over 90% of the scenes featuring them together was beating you over the head with it, especially after he changed.
And damn right, we guys have feelings. Just because we're a little thick-headed doesn't mean we aren't romantics too.
Chrno34 2 years ago 6
Namco made their feelings for each other pretty obvious. There were scenes, skits and Luke's thoughts in his diary that told you. Luke and Tear had great chemistry. The problem I see with Yuri and Estelle, is that there's not enough chemistry. They don't partner up like Luke and Tear do when they are in the company of others and alone.
Makilore 2 years ago
Its because theyre not supposed to. They have more of a brother/sister relationship.
TheSavageReaper99 2 years ago 8
Yeah, that is what nearly all the relationships are in this game. That's one reason why I like this game, no romance.
Ardith50 2 years ago
well perhaps that is because they're not supposed to partner up like Luke and Tear do but like Yuri and Estelle do.
Emotions are a far cry from chemistry, so don't analogize.
uniquityincarnate 2 years ago
Personally, I wouldn't describe their relationship as "brother/sister"...come on, that's hardly the right way of describing them. A brother/sister has a more different feeling...In my opinion, Karol and Rita are closer to being brother/sister than Yuri and Estelle. To me, this clip clearly shows that the two of them have mutual feelings for each other, but I guess you could also depict them as close friends. Not quite brother/sister, in my opinion...
ch0cochipCookie 2 years ago 48
i agree with you i just wish they had some kind of lovey dovey crap at the end to make it obvious
uglypinkmoose 2 years ago 4
@ch0cochipCookie I know its a year comment. But thats what I loved about Vesperia. Their relationship, to me, its obvious they're in love, but its never forced its naturally there. Fits well.
narutolrd 10 months ago
I like the light/dark relationship thing going on here. Its very intriging
nevrest 2 years ago 15
"..I'll be able to stay with everyone. With you." (long romantic stare) That heavily suggests they are in love. He is protective of Estelle, but who keeps bringing up the whole sibling deal? Do they actually have to come out and say it before you believe it?
RockmanMegaX 2 years ago 48
I don't understand it either. There are hundreds of game/anime couples that express love without ever saying the words. Inuyasha's never come out and said he loves Kagome, but everyone with at least half of a brain knows that he does for a fact. Same with Kenshin and Kaoru from RK. You don't necessarily need words in order to convey and understand romantic intent or context(especially in this scene where it's practically beating you over the head that they have feelings for one another).
Chrno34 2 years ago 9
@RockmanMegaX
I see what your getting at....
and i....
agree!!!!!
They have to be the best tales couple I've seen in a while.
XHikarixxx 1 year ago 3
I don't know whether they like each other or not, but I like to think that YuriXEstelle are the best couple<3
QueenOfTheBlades18 2 years ago 2
To me Yuri and Judith had a more girlfriendXboyfriend relationships at times. With Estelle and Yuri pretty much was like a brother n sister relationship he was always pretty much ''be careful Estelle, don't do this, follow what your dreams ill help you'' kinda things. IDK thou that's just me. and pretty much they gave out some details that flyns the perfect guy for estelle
Temptest09 2 years ago
@Temptest09 Haha, what kind of brother-sister relationship do you have? My brother tells me not to bother him and that he doesn't care what I do! ;_;
PHILOSYNC 9 months ago
But this is one of the few that don't feel forced at all >_>
Mainimi 2 years ago 4
I still think him and estelle were ment to be together because I do not see her being with flynn in the futre
enordbuch 2 years ago 5
if you notice yuri always talks in multiple person
enordbuch 2 years ago 3
he still sees her like a girlfriend beacause if you paid attention to the scene he would have just went all out and killed her but he tried to break the hold alexi had on her body
enordbuch 2 years ago
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xavierbot 2 years ago
Not to Raven.....or Judy.....
Rita and Karol, maybe, yeah, but totally not like a big brother to Raven or Judy.
Kirvee2 2 years ago 3
Leave it to Namco to have Yuri say something so open-ended: "I feel the same way." =\
Just like tman2max said, Namco rarely makes anything official. Basically, if you think they're a couple, they're a couple and you can prove it; if you think they're just friends, they're just friends and you can prove it.
They remind me of Senel and Shirley, too; they considered themselves siblings, but something else developed. Maybe the movie (yes, I know it's a prequel) will give us more clues.
youseineko 2 years ago
I kinda wished they could've done a REAL love confession for Yuri and Estelle like they did for Emil and Marta in DotNW. Too bad that game came out after Vesperia.
Kirvee2 2 years ago 5
While it would be nice if Estelle and Yuri would've openly confessed like Marta and Emil, I kinda like the indirect approach in this case. It seems to suit them and it's (arguably) more romantic IMHO.
Chrno34 2 years ago 5
I agree with you. Indirect or silent confessions are often the kind of confessions/romance I like, I mostly say a direct confession would've been better because then we wouldn't have the whole problem of "They're siblings!", "They're friends!", "No, blind people, they love each other!".
Kirvee2 2 years ago 5
@Chrno34 Definitely. It's good that they didn't lay on the romance too thickly. People who like Yuri/Estelle would've felt the emotional intensity of the scene and people who don't like them together are able to make their own judgment that it was a good character development scene (and not necessarily hinting of romance).
PHILOSYNC 9 months ago
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I feel the opposite, I'm glad they didn't. It lets fan decide who should be with who. (I prefer Rita/Estelle) Plus, I don't really like Emil, but meh.
AkumaXoXTenshi 2 years ago
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I agree, I don't think Estelle/Yuri would have worked out as good as Luke/Tear, but oh well.
MischiefMakers48 2 years ago
@youseineko
Nahh. It made it look like FlynnxEstelle...
Plus, Senny still looks like he hasn't decided between Shirl and Chloe. So far Chlo's been in RM2, but they push the first pairing in RM, the second in 2.
ES21007 1 year ago
This is such a lovely scene~
I think their relationship can be viewed as a friendship, brother/sister, or as a couple. It's all on a person's perspective.
AnimeOtakuStar 2 years ago
loI while I like the idea of them being a couple, it wouldn't be weird for them to feel like siblings. But as we know from Legendia, being "siblings" is a feeling that can grow. Senel and Shirley.
And isn't it the Tales way to not give closure on couples? The only couple that for sure happened is Stan, and Rutee from Destiny, since they have Kyle of Destiny 2. :/ Other then that is always left open. ^^ Which is fine.
Ah well, these two are still shipped as the couple of Vesperia.
tman2max 2 years ago
men,the best partner is zagi and rita right hehe zagi rock!!!!
ralfleepoke 3 years ago
So cute!!
Yuri/estelle <3
XD
flowerangel050 3 years ago 3
Aww, Repede doesn't have somebody, or someone to talk to.
akumaten 3 years ago 3
He does, just off screen.
He is so awesome he cant be shown
Kevassa02 3 years ago 14
yeah man, repede has ba'ul
x|
SuperEmoKid4 3 years ago
I remember in this one GameFAQs forum post, someone was so obsessed with the idea of Yuri and Estelle together that he/she thought they got married in the end, and their only evidence was this scene and this one sketch in the ending montage showing those two in the same building. >__>;;
Ain't it just safe to say they have a brother/sister relationship? It'd make more sense that way.
snoozysam 3 years ago
I don't know about you but this is the first main Tales protagonists couple that I don't know what to think about their relationship. In my mind, they don't get higher than the "good friends" level ^^'
Kisilin 3 years ago 5
Euh... sorry ^^' Did read carefully your post ^^' Guess I should go to sleep ^^'
Kisilin 3 years ago
i see it more like that estelle wants something more (there are a few skits in wich the other tease estelle about how she feels about yuri) but yuri doesnt. i think that is yuri the one who sees estelle as her younger sister. she doesnt see him that way in my opinion
RaDinokun 3 years ago
do you know where to watch that skit?
I wasn't able to unlock it in the game =/
Dayuchan 2 years ago
check the videos from omegaevolution, he recorded all the skits and i remember watching it on his videos. be warned that there are a lot of videos and finding it may take a while, but its a funny skit.
RaDinokun 2 years ago
@RaDinokun
Well, There was that one with Raven where he keeps saying they're together after Yuri wins the coliseum fight. Then Yuri counters "If you're cheering for me, aren't we getting close old man?" (-_- ' ...uh...). Then the other one where Raven and Judy force the same idea. Rita comes in and somehow managed to make it worse...
ES21007 1 year ago
LOL that post was win and full of joke.
L0rnch 3 years ago
Oh man, you mean the guy was joking? Well, he definitely managed to tick me off. ;-;
In my honest opinion, Yuri and Estelle are definitely better off having a brother/sister relationship, or simply "good friends" like another person mentioned. (Is it so wrong to NOT have an intimate relationship? Is it wrong to be simply friends?) I like the poetry of how Yuri is like "the morning star Brave Vesperia" and Estelle is "the child of the full moon", but THAT MAN MADE ME MAD.
snoozysam 3 years ago
No, I was saying that it was absolutely ridiculous and it just HAD to be a joke. But it wasn't. And that's why it was sad.
L0rnch 3 years ago