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  • soo... is yuri in love with Estelle or what...?

  • I remember when they said this was a "sibling" relationship. If I stared at my brother like that, my parents would call DCF and Dick Wolf would make our case an episode of SVU.

    They have the BEST pair IMO, second only to LukexTear. It's like together, but not "Let me strangle and choke you with our diabetes LloydxColet MartaxEmil LUV"

    Although I like when Yuri and Judy flirt. She's like his hot bro. "I appreciate your hotness, and that you do your thing. Much Respect" And she's like "word"

  • Repede was like: Do your thing boss. *leaves* Call me when your done.

  • was that a tiny judith on rapedes back?

  • They looks so good together! They should get married. ^^

  • Overdrive Lady.... ruining any serious cutscene.

  • Ahhh the cutest couple ever. This scene and a lot of other ones I saw just screamed YurixEstelle! -3 they're adorable together.

  • Estelle: Heh heh it's warm. *is sitting in dog shit*

  • 3:26 to 3:33 would have been literally the perfect chance for Yuri to have moved in.

  • So there's Raven and Karol's Talk, Rita and Judith's, then Yuri and Estelle's. So in the PS3 version do Patty and Repede chat it up? XD It could happen.

  • @PredictableEnigma Patty and Flynn have a scene in the PS3 version.

  • @PikohanRevenge

    That makes sense. Although I know very little about Patty's personality. (My spoken conversational Japanese is spotty at best and I only know 8 characters written, and I've been trying to learn German, so my chances of understanding the PS3 version are zero to none.) I'd like to see that though.

  • Repede... has a tiny Judith riding on his back. That's... kinda... hot.

  • Hahaha, I love the Judith doll so much...

  • @PHILOSYNC Yeah. Some couples lay the romance on so thick it becomes nauseating (i'm looking at you MartaXEmil) Here I'm glad they let us feel it without forcing anything.

  • OF COURSE YOUR NOT SCARE,ESTELLE! Your with Yuri :D

  • And I don't see why you perceive it as brother and sister just because Yuri tries to help and support Estelle. Part of being in relationship is encouragement, support and helping one another grow; not meaningless flirtation that doesn't go anywhere.

  • @Chrno34 You my friend...should be the next...Dr. Phil. I'm tired of this hollywood love BS. This is true love, even if he doesn't mjust come out and say it

  • @Chrno34

    I see what you mean. Some people think Yuri and Judith would make a good couple just because of stuff they have in common. I personally don't see anything between them because not only would their relationship not go anywhere, but because she just flirts meaninglessly.

  • @Chrno34

    Exactly! The point of a relationship is having someone you can always count on to have your best intrests at heart. To be there for you, and even to tell you your flaws to help turn you into a better person. That's what makes it worth while. You both grow and better yourselves throughout your lives and take on the world together. Estelle helps Yuri too. She's taught him that unwavering kindness that is so freely givin. Yuri has become more trusting of people then he once was.

  • @PredictableEnigma don't forget she healz him when he fell from zaude :D (just to add)

  • and yet, this couple never resolves itself like MOST FUCKING RPGs.

  • @KlineStife umm if you havnt noticed litterly 95% of the rpgs that resolve the romance the MC dies at the end

  • @jsh020

    well, then let him die =/. stupid fanfictions are screwing thise couple up

  • @KlineStife that will happen regardless, besides the kinda do get together in the end of this game anyhow, they dont need to say the words i love you out loud for them to show they have feelings for eachother, his scene is a love confession in disguise realy,

  • @jsh020

    you know what ive noticed? the more UST a couple has built, the more fanfiction there will be. that would explain why there are so many fanfiction of pokemon.

    if they said "i love you", that would go aways as to having them ignore this couple, and move on to other couples. (most of them nonsense)

  • @KlineStife yah, but some of them shouldnt be completed cause some dont exist, like FFXIII, love that game to death and all but its fanbase is retarted, for some reaosn peopl,e think hope and vannile is a couple when vannile is 19 and hope is 14, and without spoiling it the ending makes sure that they will never see eachother ever again, ide kill to see them go away but if that means completing that plot then ide prefer they kept it unfinished

  • I love this couple, but...

    Estelle is NOT a tomboy. That's more of Rita. Has she even done one thing to constitute her that way?

    meh, still ok.

  • @ES21007 I think Yuri said it in a teasing way? And the term doesn't necessarily have to be used in its strictest sense; he could be commenting on her boldness, for instance. (shrug)

  • @PHILOSYNC

    As you have said, good point.

  • @ES21007 for the time shown, (medieval era/renaissance era) i'm sure girls were expected to be lady-like as in staying at home and cooking or having kids.

  • @justcuzimwhite43

    In TLH (spoiler) Edge and Reimi have rings on their hands in Reimi's ending, and in Legendia it's not sure whether he likes Shirley or Chloe.

  • in most rpg games their is always a hint of the female and male lead being romantically involved scene but Tales of vesperia was like pshhhh watch this yuri nonchalantly plays it off like hes some hot shit lol Yuri is the best and most down to earth main character i ever played hes uber l33t!

  • Is it me or did everyone just missed out on that cute mini Judith on Repede's back? xD

    Yuri x Estelle for the win <3

  • (= * _ *=)

  • holy damn!!!

  • aww da sweetest moments in da game :D

  • @justcuzimwhite43 what other Jrpg have you played that love is always implied?

  • "With you." Is what makes it a confession.

  • Estelle : And I' ll be able to stay with everyone , with you ....

    It .. so ... wonderfulll ( sniff) . It makes me cry ! Yuri X Estelle forever !

  • I like how in this game the relationship between Yuri and Estelle is not shoved in your face, compared to the other games in the series. It's hinted at, especially in this scene, but it never really gets too obvious. To me, it seems that Yuri just wants to protect his friends, and to keep travelling with them as they are now, just like he said: It fits him. He is someone who doesn't show his feelings that well to other people, and has a darker side, which is shown very well in the game.

  • This is my favourite scene ever in ToV.

  • This scene feels like it just SCREAMS yuri x estelle

    xD

    I dont really see how they have a sibling relationship, from what I see AND HEAR!

    o.o

  • Estelle: and I'll be able to stay with everyone...WITH YOU....

    *awkward staring* O-O

    Yuri: Thanks, I FEEL THE SAME WAY

    oh man! that made my heart move! xD

  • The 3 people that disliked this are Yuri x Raven fans.

  • @isko1002 OH GOD, NO! THE MENTAL IMAGE! MY MIND'S EYE! IT BURNS! 

  • Ahh.. I was squealing during that romantic stare.. Q u Q

  • it suggest they have a thing for eachother but it doesn't go anywhere so

    they are just close friends, i blame rita because she just wants estelle to herself.

  • DAMMIT NAMCO BANDAI, JUST MAKE THEM THE OFFICIAL COUPLE ALREADY!

  • they look so cute 2gether XD

    *sigh* i wish they wouuld kiss :D

  • i wish all the previous tales games get remade for next gen consoles, i tried looking for tales of the abyss... couldnt find it anywhere

  • @FF18Cloud Gamestop just put it up for sale on their website. Though you have to go to the store to buy it.

  • @FF18Cloud

    3DS. Yes it's coming out for the console. For Nintendo.

  • LOL...That moment they were staring each other Yuri was tottaly like " Must...not...break...Poker Face..."

  • @D8Killer I agree wholeheartedly.

  • @SeraphimSwordmaster This game was just a big suprise! Never played before a Tales game, but this game was much darker than I was expected ( c'mon, I dare anybody says that bricks weren't shat when Yuri went Vigilante on that scantily cladded commander). Seriously, I thought "LOL now what?!?! Hot "Yuri Action" ( God that joke was horrible). I'm glad a played this game for it assures me that JRPGS still got it"

  • Vesperia + Abyss = Awesomeness beyond measure.

  • @FanaticTrent Abyss + Symphonia = Awesome beyond measure.

  • Judith doll leaving the screen to make room for Estelle to be next to Yuri.

    OMG SYMBOLISM

  • this doesnt officially prove they like each other. they are best friends. they wanna stay together. >=(

  • @halfwolf66

    And how often do best friends in RPG's get together. >_>

  • SHE MADE REPPEDE GO AWAY! come back doggie!...TT>TT

  • If the dog leaves voluntarily to give them some alone time, it knows something.

  • I suppose that there might be some sort of love between Yuri and Estelle. Though they might try to figure out whether or not they are made for each other.

  • I was once told by someone wizened in the ways of the world that roughly 90% of what someone says is in their tone, not their words, and there were a lot of unsaid things in their tone during that particular conversation.

  • ooh man dat cute :d

    go gett her yuri b:

  • tales of symphonia 2: dawn of the new world referance at 03:10,if you get the joke at 01:45-01:57 then you have a sick mind like me.

  • Other than this and a previous scene...one also must look at the ending illustrations.

    Yuri and Estelle are together in many scenes there. A notably funny one would be in Yuri's room where his eyes are closed and Estelle's pinching his nose.

  • I think that throughout the whole game, these two are still trying to decide if they like each other. It's like a pre-relationship, you're still trying to decide if you want to go farther with that person. Really, there's not enough to hint that they love each other, but there's plenty to suggest that they might be able to have a relationship. Personally, I don't really see any chemistry between Estelle and Yuri. They care about each other, that's for sure.

  • And that's what fanfiction is for.

  • Urge to say this again:

    "Thou art I and I am thou.

    Thou shalt have our blessing when thou choosest to create a Persona of the Lovers Arcana.

    The Estelle Social Link has reached level 9!

  • (c)Estelle even uses the exact wording Luke uses.

    L: I have friends and...you... I can finally think of myself as me.

    E: And I'll be able to stay with everyone. With you.

    The emphasis on "you" really matters here. I'm not sure if the connection was intentional but it adds even more to a scene that requires a certain amount of analyzing. I don't think that necessarily makes the Yuri/Estelle relationship romance (like in Abyss) but it is interesting.

  • I think this like most of Vesperia has the promise of romance but it mild in its attempts. I believe they did that on purpose, its the flavor of the game if you will.

    However, several lines from this scene definitelly hearken back to the Luke/Tear night before scene. From 3:00 onward Estelle sounds a lot like Luke telling Tear that instead of being scared for what is to come he's happy in the moment. Yuri even reiterates what Tear does, that they'll both live on. (c)

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  • In every Tales of game since Phantasia and onward the Hero is always with the Heroine even if they don't say it out loud it's obvious all the main hero and heroines are in love in every Tales of game. If you don't know Yuri and Estelle are canon they you haven't played enough Tales of games in your lifetime. xDD

  • well it does not seem like a relationship because through out the game yuri always tells estelle "be careful , is that what you really want? , ill help you , estelle think about this dont, do that" where yuri and judith actually flirted with each other at times

  • @Temptest09

    Their flirting was meant to be playful at best. Yuri acknowledges that Judith is hot and Judith liked to tease him. That's all. They never connected on a deep emotional level like Yuri and Estelle have. And Yuri asking Estelle to do what she wants is him respecting her wishes and wanting her to be independent. He was being supportive of her and trying to help her grow, not by encroaching her decisions with his own wants, but by letting her make her own choices.

  • Or, maybe their Social Link is at around Level Eight or Nine at this point.

    Once it gets to Level Ten...

  • I honestly don't think these two are supposed to be a pairing, and I'm glad about it. It gets boring for the main hero and heroine to have a love story in every jRPG you play. >_>

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  • 3:24 - 3:35

    I still say that's cute. Also...

    If this was slightly like Persona, this scene would definitely have given Yuri or Estelle their final Personas or something. Hehe.

  • Only the kids seem to be concerned with signification of things like love or a pairing between the two. This scene was about disclosure and resolve more than anything.

  • Yup.  I totally agree.

  • are there any other scenes estelle x yuri? haven't rly seen any

  • When Estelle discovers Yuri alive after falling off Zaude.

    That screams YuriXEstelle in your ear, imo.

  • they should make one for nintendo ds and dsi

  • Three Tales games have been released for the DS: Tales of Hearts, Tales of Innocence, and Tales of the Tempest.

  • thank you:)

  • @PikohanRevenge i never heard of them

  • @PikohanRevenge

    And TOA. Yes, they are making TOA FOR DS!

  • @xJesusForeverx

    Tales of The abyss is coming for 3DS.

  • I would like A kiss in that scene! Estelle x Yuri! <3

  • no that would ruin the game

  • I'm not sure. Maybe I'm just saying that because I'm a girl, but I think there many things in the game wich would say:Yuri loves Estelle.

    But somehow there people how think that Yuri loves Judy...

    Well,Maybe we are lucky and there'll be a second part of Tales of vesperia. Then we'll know...

  • May I ask why you think so? I mean.... I thought about this for a cuple of time, but I still don't know, why you think so.....

  • 3:11

    I see what they did thar,

    new world about to dawn.

    hehehe. . .

  • Ahh Yuri Lowell... *man crush sigh*

    He's probably one of the most calm, overly confident, prudent, and benevolent protagonists to ever spawn out of an rpg, not to mention the sickest fighter of the tales series... Kratos is a close second. =P

  • kaychan4uu-Um, what do you mean "some?" The game broadcasts the pairing since the first time they met. The characters within game point it out, the interactions and moments themselves are hard evidence; the Abyss Complete Guide by Namco features and listed them as the official pairings of the game, along with AschxNatalia, VanxLegretta and CecillexFrings; and even the creators have stated that they're a couple.

    I don't know what game you were playing for you to say that.

  • Where can I find this "Complete Guide" and is there an online translation I can read?

  • It isn't available in English and I'm unaware if there's a english translation online(you can try looking though). I had my japanese penpal who used to attend highschool with me translate his copy of the book for me into English via emailed scans.

  • Luke loves Tear and she loves him back....It's pretty obvious...he writes about it in his diary and wants to confess to her before going to Eldrant but he was too afraid and didn't. Impossible as it may seem guys have feelings too...O_O

  • Hell, that whole scene in Eldrant to made it obvious to anyone that he was going confess without even needing to look at the diary. A person would have to be as dense as Luke or Lloyd to say that Luke and Tear didn't have feelings for one another when over 90% of the scenes featuring them together was beating you over the head with it, especially after he changed.

    And damn right, we guys have feelings. Just because we're a little thick-headed doesn't mean we aren't romantics too.

  • Namco made their feelings for each other pretty obvious. There were scenes, skits and Luke's thoughts in his diary that told you. Luke and Tear had great chemistry. The problem I see with Yuri and Estelle, is that there's not enough chemistry. They don't partner up like Luke and Tear do when they are in the company of others and alone.

  • Its because theyre not supposed to. They have more of a brother/sister relationship.

  • Yeah, that is what nearly all the relationships are in this game. That's one reason why I like this game, no romance.

  • well perhaps that is because they're not supposed to partner up like Luke and Tear do but like Yuri and Estelle do.

    Emotions are a far cry from chemistry, so don't analogize.

  • Personally, I wouldn't describe their relationship as "brother/sister"...come on, that's hardly the right way of describing them. A brother/sister has a more different feeling...In my opinion, Karol and Rita are closer to being brother/sister than Yuri and Estelle. To me, this clip clearly shows that the two of them have mutual feelings for each other, but I guess you could also depict them as close friends. Not quite brother/sister, in my opinion...

  • i agree with you i just wish they had some kind of lovey dovey crap at the end to make it obvious

  • @ch0cochipCookie I know its a year comment. But thats what I loved about Vesperia. Their relationship, to me, its obvious they're in love, but its never forced its naturally there. Fits well.

  • I like the light/dark relationship thing going on here. Its very intriging

  • "..I'll be able to stay with everyone. With you." (long romantic stare) That heavily suggests they are in love. He is protective of Estelle, but who keeps bringing up the whole sibling deal? Do they actually have to come out and say it before you believe it?

  • I don't understand it either. There are hundreds of game/anime couples that express love without ever saying the words. Inuyasha's never come out and said he loves Kagome, but everyone with at least half of a brain knows that he does for a fact. Same with Kenshin and Kaoru from RK. You don't necessarily need words in order to convey and understand romantic intent or context(especially in this scene where it's practically beating you over the head that they have feelings for one another).

  • @RockmanMegaX

    I see what your getting at....

    and i....

    agree!!!!!

    They have to be the best tales couple I've seen in a while.

  • I don't know whether they like each other or not, but I like to think that YuriXEstelle are the best couple<3

  • To me Yuri and Judith had a more girlfriendXboyfriend relationships at times. With Estelle and Yuri pretty much was like a brother n sister relationship he was always pretty much ''be careful Estelle, don't do this, follow what your dreams ill help you'' kinda things. IDK thou that's just me. and pretty much they gave out some details that flyns the perfect guy for estelle

  • @Temptest09 Haha, what kind of brother-sister relationship do you have? My brother tells me not to bother him and that he doesn't care what I do! ;_;

  • But this is one of the few that don't feel forced at all >_>

  • I still think him and estelle were ment to be together because I do not see her being with flynn in the futre

  • if you notice yuri always talks in multiple person

  • he still sees her like a girlfriend beacause if you paid attention to the scene he would have just went all out and killed her but he tried to break the hold alexi had on her body

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  • Not to Raven.....or Judy.....

    Rita and Karol, maybe, yeah, but totally not like a big brother to Raven or Judy.

  • Leave it to Namco to have Yuri say something so open-ended: "I feel the same way." =\

    Just like tman2max said, Namco rarely makes anything official. Basically, if you think they're a couple, they're a couple and you can prove it; if you think they're just friends, they're just friends and you can prove it.

    They remind me of Senel and Shirley, too; they considered themselves siblings, but something else developed. Maybe the movie (yes, I know it's a prequel) will give us more clues.

  • I kinda wished they could've done a REAL love confession for Yuri and Estelle like they did for Emil and Marta in DotNW. Too bad that game came out after Vesperia.

  • While it would be nice if Estelle and Yuri would've openly confessed like Marta and Emil, I kinda like the indirect approach in this case. It seems to suit them and it's (arguably) more romantic IMHO.

  • I agree with you. Indirect or silent confessions are often the kind of confessions/romance I like, I mostly say a direct confession would've been better because then we wouldn't have the whole problem of "They're siblings!", "They're friends!", "No, blind people, they love each other!".

  • @Chrno34 Definitely. It's good that they didn't lay on the romance too thickly. People who like Yuri/Estelle would've felt the emotional intensity of the scene and people who don't like them together are able to make their own judgment that it was a good character development scene (and not necessarily hinting of romance).

  • @youseineko

    Nahh. It made it look like FlynnxEstelle...

    Plus, Senny still looks like he hasn't decided between Shirl and Chloe. So far Chlo's been in RM2, but they push the first pairing in RM, the second in 2.

  • This is such a lovely scene~

    I think their relationship can be viewed as a friendship, brother/sister, or as a couple. It's all on a person's perspective.

  • loI while I like the idea of them being a couple, it wouldn't be weird for them to feel like siblings. But as we know from Legendia, being "siblings" is a feeling that can grow. Senel and Shirley.

    And isn't it the Tales way to not give closure on couples? The only couple that for sure happened is Stan, and Rutee from Destiny, since they have Kyle of Destiny 2. :/ Other then that is always left open. ^^ Which is fine.

    Ah well, these two are still shipped as the couple of Vesperia.

  • men,the best partner is zagi and rita right hehe zagi rock!!!!

  • So cute!!

    Yuri/estelle <3

    XD

  • Aww, Repede doesn't have somebody, or someone to talk to.

  • He does, just off screen.

    He is so awesome he cant be shown

  • yeah man, repede has ba'ul

    x|

  • I remember in this one GameFAQs forum post, someone was so obsessed with the idea of Yuri and Estelle together that he/she thought they got married in the end, and their only evidence was this scene and this one sketch in the ending montage showing those two in the same building. >__>;;

    Ain't it just safe to say they have a brother/sister relationship? It'd make more sense that way.

  • I don't know about you but this is the first main Tales protagonists couple that I don't know what to think about their relationship. In my mind, they don't get higher than the "good friends" level ^^'

  • Euh... sorry ^^' Did read carefully your post ^^' Guess I should go to sleep ^^'

  • i see it more like that estelle wants something more (there are a few skits in wich the other tease estelle about how she feels about yuri) but yuri doesnt. i think that is yuri the one who sees estelle as her younger sister. she doesnt see him that way in my opinion

  • do you know where to watch that skit?

    I wasn't able to unlock it in the game =/

  • check the videos from omegaevolution, he recorded all the skits and i remember watching it on his videos. be warned that there are a lot of videos and finding it may take a while, but its a funny skit.

  • @RaDinokun

    Well, There was that one with Raven where he keeps saying they're together after Yuri wins the coliseum fight. Then Yuri counters "If you're cheering for me, aren't we getting close old man?"  (-_- ' ...uh...). Then the other one where Raven and Judy force the same idea. Rita comes in and somehow managed to make it worse...

  • LOL that post was win and full of joke.

  • Oh man, you mean the guy was joking? Well, he definitely managed to tick me off. ;-;

    In my honest opinion, Yuri and Estelle are definitely better off having a brother/sister relationship, or simply "good friends" like another person mentioned. (Is it so wrong to NOT have an intimate relationship? Is it wrong to be simply friends?) I like the poetry of how Yuri is like "the morning star Brave Vesperia" and Estelle is "the child of the full moon", but THAT MAN MADE ME MAD.

  • No, I was saying that it was absolutely ridiculous and it just HAD to be a joke. But it wasn't. And that's why it was sad.

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