Religion is for anti intellectual clowns. I read some of your comments specifically the one about how you like to pick and choose what you believe out of the bible. So you're the single authority that knows that the only part of the bible is true is jesus? That is so ridiculous it's laughable. The real reason you say that is because jesus is the only semi sane part of the bible that you feel you can rationalize to yourself that it's ok to believe in.
A few things need to be said here. Atheists are not the only ones who accept the claims of theoretical physicists. Many Christians and believers do.
Ok. Rational people form beliefs based on evidence. When this theories are supported by new information, they become easier to believe. When people trade away reason for faith regarding ANY beliefs, it is irrational. If I scientists spends their whole life trying to prove string theory, you could argue they have faith in it and say
they are biased. But over time, the general consensus of scientists will weed out the bullshit. Theoretical physics is way too confused to understand for the average person who only dips into the subject every once in awhile (yes, that includes me, and probably you), so I think that, unless there is a strong consensus between theoretical physicists, nobody should pretend anything is fact.
Nobody will ever prove that heaven or god don't exist, because they are defined by religious people in a way that makes them impossible to disprove. These theories that theoretical physicists come up with can be proven and disproved; if they couldn't nobody would listen to them. What science does is continuously remove God back as the direct cause of things. You can always claim God answers what we currently don't know. This is mostly a response to your video description.
So what has this got to do with theism? You seem to be attributing the unknown to an assumption that you already have, that no matter what the answers turn out to be you will still equivocate them to some loose verse in the bible, quran or torah. There being extra dimensions has nothing to do with the supernatural. It is an unknown and it will remain an unknown until it is known via a provable scientific method, it has nothing to do with the preconceived ideas of theism.
So you're validating a belief in religion because scientists have a mathematic model that invokes other dimensions? And you claim those dimensions might be god, heaven or hell? And you want to know if atheists are delusional? Really?
Awesome man. I myself have been through the ringer when it comes to beliefs.I was born and raised as a catholic, then at age 12 I was wiccan, then just agnostic, then i was somewhat of an atheist but quickly left the "movement" because I hate that it lacks empathy and understanding of people who believe in god and wants to degrade them, it's pathetic. I find it extremely interesting that there are so many similarities between Hinduism and M theory. I don't believe in god but I agree with you :)
If you changed your beliefs from Atheism to something else because of how other Atheists acted, then you have a very weak character. I am an Atheist yet I do not lack empathy or understanding of people, in fact I volunteer my time to help others and spend a lot of time trying to garner a better understanding of other people so that I may be more empathetic (I still struggle with having empathy for those whom I consider "bad" people).
Okay, look. You, take your belife, your god, from a traditional belife witch where thoth up for as far back as 4000 years ago! StringTheory is an advanced mathematical model, witch help us understand the realety in witch we exist. This is what we have came to, WITH STUDY, not listening to a old storyBook and blindly accepting it. IF you do not see the HUGE differance, i can not help you.
Sciense does not in any way support an existance of a intellegance, but an reality made up of NaturalForces
LOL this video is ridiculous! maybe santa clause lives in these other dimensions, maybe the tooth fairy? why does it have to be god? it can explain any fairytale you want! HAHAHAHAHA! fact is, out side of the bible, nothing points to existence of GOD, santa clause, or the tooth fairy. if you say "we cant explain something therefore it must be the design a higher power" then you live in the dimension of ridiculousness! and thats a visible dimension! LOL
the dimensions that they are talking about are at the subatomic level! it's not we are in them! and something in one of these dimensions cant interact with the one we are in!
From what I gather string theory isn't fact exactly. It's mathematically satisfying but it lacks any really experimentation. That doesn't mean that in the future it won't be proven right.
It has a basis in mathematics, unlike God which was taken out of thin air and heaven which was thought to be in the sky until we flew planes up there.
All God's messengers told us about the "Extra Dimensions" and the "Parallel Universes", the only difference between them and our modern physicists is they called these "Parallel Universes" as "Heaven and Hell". Good work brother.
@helasmoh That's very convenient of you to slip in Heaven & Hell there. No where does string theory say that one dimension or parallel universe is a place of eternal torment or another one is a place of bliss. Also, nowhere does string theory say that you go to these places when you die. I'm not an expert on string theory but I know it doesn't say those things.
String theory and quantum physics are telling us clearly with scientific evidence that what we call our "physical reality" is a delusion. This is exactly what all God messengers told us, this temporary universe will be destroyed and we will go back to the origin of our existence. nothing of what you do or even think of will be lost. I didn't bring anything new neither did these theories, it is just a matter how to name them.
@helasmoh You are bringing something new to it & it's not just a matter of how you name them. You're twisting string theory to fit your own theory when it has nothing got to do with Christianity or any other religion.
It doesn't say our physical reality is a delusion. We have 3 dimensions we can perceive & a 4th which is time. Part of ST states than there are other dimensions that we can't currently perceive. String theory is not yet fact either but it is mathematically satisfying.
I'm a follower of Jesus Christ indeed but not a Christian. I hope you can watch my video against "Quantum Man", Lawrence Krauss and his "quantum theory", sorry, I mean "No Need for God" theory.
@helasmoh Oh please you're embarassing yourself. Your video just interprets the quran to make it fit with science. Are you going to keep trying to fit a square block into a round hole?
Read the description of this video of my Christian brother, look at the whole picture and think a little, that of course if you are a true "free thinker", after that, believe whatever you want to believe. If God exist, both of us will know very soon. I wish you all the best.
People like you don't believe in these dimensions but the instant you die there will be another kind of rolling, but it will not be on floor laughing, it will be rolling on fire for eternity. Keep rofl for now.
I have to agree with ApesAmongUs on this one. And also add that the reasons they beleive in these dimensions is because the math for explaining things in the small scales described, works out with the addition of multiple dimensions.
Though, even as an athiest, who prefers spelling athiest wrong, i respect your thought processes and love your videos. Especially the one(s) ripping on dendrophillian.
String theory does not use "dimension" in the bad sci-fi startrek way that you seem to consider it. It's "dimension" like height and width and depth - those 11 potential dimensions are directions, not fully formed alternate universes. As long as you think in those terms, any claim you have to scientific investigation gets lost in your lack of understanding of the meanings of the words.
@CapnObvious I share your awe, however, TOE, String Theory, M Theory are in no way postulating the supernatural. You have conflated 'other dimensions' with 'the supernatural' and then built your position from this sleight of hand. What these theories are attempting is amazing and natural explanations for observable phenomena such as the weakness of gravity. People would not call these scientists delusional because they are postulating theories, not claiming to know.
Why does it have to be "God OR Science"? Why can't it be both? Why can't all the scientific laws that exist today and are known about today exist at the same time as a "God"? Perhaps this "God" created the "big bang" in a sense. This "God" created the game, set up the rules, then sat back and is watching it all played out. "Is there a God"? Why does it matter? If an atheist is right, good for them. If a theist is right, well then good for them too. The thing is, neither way can be proven.
First of all, m theory states that, if another dimension exist around our world, which is actually in the 4th dimension (movement and time), that the external dimension can not interfere with our dimension. Also the other dimension is nearly the same as ours, save for a few small differences. The 5th dimension is essentially a parallel universe in science fiction terms. Also, our universe is a closed system, therefore no energy can be added or removed, therefore no outside force can affect us.
you DON'T get it. if you believe in christianity, you've already proven that you're willing to live life based on wishful thinking. there are several thousand existing christian cults that all believe in contradicting ideas-which one is right? or maybe the other couple of thousand "pagan"religions are right? forget physics-which christianity is the right one? the one you believe in because god picked you? thats so typically arrogant...a personal relationship? awwwww, how special and unique-not.
@Capn0bvious Haha, very funny. The theory of gravity hasn't been "proven" either but it can be tested. Can you say that for your sky daddy theory? No you can't.
@Capn0bvious In a few years it will be proven with the LHC at Cern in Switzerland. If the final energy after the collision is measured to be less than the initial energy before the particle's collision, then that's evidence of the energy drifting away into hidden dimensions that we can't see. Also to me the idea of a supernatural being creating our universe is absurd. I don't believe energy was created by God. In fact it would violate the laws of physics. There has to be a multi-verse.
@Capn0bvious its been mathematically proven, you would have to be extremely well read in theoretical physics and abstract math to understand it. however, im not going to tell you that string theory is accurate reason being is that it hasn't been backed up by physical experimentation, but they predict with the next particle accelerator coming in the next 5 years we will be able to see if it holds up in the physical/experimental world. so I guess you and i will both get to see!
Can't watch the vid at the moment but I'll throw in my 20c. 'Invisible' dimensions are theories, not asserted as facts like religious claims - there are also good reasons to accept that they may exist. Physicists also don't try to legislate their theories. Asking if atheists are delusional... well it depends, delusional regarding what? If you mean rejecting notions of a god, then you're asking whether atheists are delusional for rejecting something for which there is insufficient evidence.
"If Theoretical Physicists can believe in invisible dimensions and unseen realms without being ridiculed, why can't religious people. If there really are something like 10 or 11 dimensions around us, who is to say that those dimensions are not what the Bible calls "heaven" or "hell" or even "God"?"
Evidence; Mathmatics, Repitition, Prediction and Application.
@faithfire02 the odds that you guessed correctly about one of the dimensions based on a book written by bronze age ignoramuses, are astronomical. Google scientific method. Learn something.
I said nothing about guessing. All I'm going to do is quote my own comment, because I can't make it any clearer than that. "Evidence; Mathmatics, Repitition, Prediction and Application." I'm also not interested in arguing this through ad hominem. Telling me to learn something is moot because you know nothing of my character. If you have a valid retort, based on reason, directly related to what I've said, then say it.
Too bad religion has been around longer than science, yet science had made far more progress than religion ever will. You know why? There is no god. And if a Christian wants to ask how we're all here, ask yourself how god got there first. If you want to say god is eternal, and that he's always been here, then so is the rest of the world.
YO! captain oblivious! Try studing the math behind string theory. Scientists don't just come up with theories that feel good to them. They start with a hypothosis, spend years working out the mathmatical model for it, submit it for peer review, spend even more years trying to prove it wrong and if their model works, then they publish. After that it's studied by more scientists,refined and rechecked for years, peer reviewed again. That's how string theory became M-theory.
@trooperJac Yeah, this is a common problem among a lot of people. Attaching extra meaning. Atheism means one sentence - it means no belief in a god, but that doesn't mean belief in something else.
you ignore the crucial element of physics and M theory... they use math and probability when describing the universe, statistical consistency. it is completely incompatible with the concept of religion; science has been disproving religiously held notions time and again, more and more as history develops
Do you understand scientific theory has nothing to do with atheism? What you are talking about are ideas not concert facts. I am an atheist and I don't ever think String Theory is a real theory.
Atheism is a non belief in god that does not need science.
"If Theoretical Physicists can believe in invisible dimensions and unseen realms without being ridiculed, why can't religious people."
because theoretical physicists don't believe in extra dimensions, they predict that they exist, and are trying to figure how how to test for their existence..can u say the same for theists?
Well, in your video you only speak of what a scientific mind you have. Go ahead and bust it down for me why the books of Mary, Peter and Judas, not to mention the other 60 gospels that were thrown out, were considered not worthy of study? Was god talking to Emporer Constantine telling him which books were actually his words?
I have no idea, as I believe that any work which speaks of Jesus' life and ministry is worthy of study. I don't believe that the Bible, as canonized by the Roman Catholic Church is the final authority on anything, Jesus is.
I have no idea, as I believe that any work which speaks of Jesus' life and ministry is worthy of study. I don't believe that the Bible, as canonized by the Roman Catholic Church is the final authority on anything, Jesus is.
@Capn0bvious even if you believe in Jesus, and even if he existed is no proof that god exists or is in any way related to the Nazarene-who apparently was one of hundreds of messianic end of days prophets wandering around palestine 2000 yrs ago-still no proof of god...the existance of a book written by people speaking "god's word" is no explanation of god or his existance....
@Capn0bvious i think you should read "a brief history of space time"-Stephen Hawking and "physics of the impossible"-by Michio Kaku both are quite interesting and explain how this theory along with many others came to be. i think everyone should research type 1 parallel universes thats just on of those things that seems more likely than not
@crazy4carolyn Constantine wasn't an editor in the compilation of Sacred Scripture. In compiling canon, The Church, it's members, Jerome et all arrived at those selected books and letters which were consistent and accurate with The Church's understanding of Sacred Tradition, which persevered despite Rome's active persecution until Constantine's edict. But the notion that Constantine had some individual responsibility which Sacred Scripture reflects is entirely preposterous. Henry XIII he was not
@NilDesperandum777 I'd suggest you do a little more research. Constantine was the one who compiled the canonizers and had pretty much dictated the 4 gospels as the ones he wanted. He did that because 2 of the gospels (but not the other 2, go figure. Ofcourse that happens repeatedly in the gospels.) spoke of Pontus Pilot "washing his hands of the crucifiction" and that looked favorable to the Roman empire. The other two gospel were CLOSE to the first 2 so that was, again, reason for thier incl.
@crazy4carolyn You would have to provide a source in addition to advising me to "do some research", because there's a lot of babble floating about that's obviously anything but scholarly. Because nothing what you're offering constitutes fact. For example, St. Iraneus's "Against Heresies" (182-188 AD) testifies to the Tetramorph or Quadriform (Fourfold) Gospel given in unity. So if you want to believe that Constantine chose the four gospels for the reasons you've stated...By all means...
@crazy4carolyn Go back further into Church history and you'll find St.Ignatius and Polycarp using the Pauline epistles, and the Tetramorph using the first phrase of consecration "It is written" around 110AD. Without getting into the supplementary and complementary character of Sacred Scripture...Pilate washing his hands need hardly be included for only the purpose of absolving Rome, given the other redundant testimony. There's a prophetic, Jewish component to that action as well. And on and on..
@crazy4carolyn I'd add thirdly, that anyone acquainted with people in positions of power, can rest assured of one thing....That one thing they most certainly do not do, is "grunt work". At bare minimum, the gathering of copies would have been as a means, following his conversion, to provide a cessation in persecution of said Christians, and to, as Rome always had done, absorb culture for it's own uses...The canonicity of Sacred Scripture,and the the maintenance of Tradition was long established.
@crazy4carolyn One last thing...It's "crucifixion" not "crucifiction"....Wouldnt want to mistake you for laying needless insult or even worse... a mohammedan apologist in the vein of Deedat now would we...
The book of Peter IS in the canonical Bible! The gospels of Judas and Mary M. were recently discovered. These make up the deuterocanonical books of the Bible (not the Apocryphal texts). These so-called non-canonical books were excluded at the second Nicene Council, which violated many Biblical laws, like not venerating icons. The Dead Sea scrolls are being decypered to this day, and much knowledge is being found. God reveals all, when he feels fit to do so.
I would suggest that you might need to work on your biblical and general history knowledge? You would see more of the problems with taking one of those old books too seriously.
Actually, I consider my biblical and general history knowledge to be above par. Perhaps you would like to be a little more specific about the "problems with taking one of those old books too seriously and I'll be happy to deconstruct your argument for you.
@Capn0bvious You're very cute in the way you act like you know things and convey, honestly, NOTHING. Some of your arguments delve, ever so SLIGHTLY in actual fact. Then you throw in all types of BS (for lack of a better term!) And then you try and close it wth emotional assuradness and patrionizing me w/ speling errors. You, either, work for faux news or you're a mental case?! Could you please clarify so I can stop trying to discern which?!
@crazy4carolyn Are you responding to me indirectly re:"speling errors." And it's "spelling", because grammar DOES matter.And it wasn't a simple correction in your grammar, it's correction in your LACK of knowledge on the subject despite confidence to the contrary. If you were actually an honest seeking person of knowledge, when corrected you would relent and contemplate your error rather than engage in ad hominem attacks. The clearest signal that a person has lost the argument incidentally.
Ok, I'm thinking that taking guesses was a poor choice of words on my part since they have done complex equations that explain how these theories could be possible that I could never hope to understand but it's not like the theory of evolution which we actually have solid proof for.
Theoretical physicists are pushing the envelope of what we are capable of understanding at this point so they will make mistakes that will be corrected as they get more information. This is how science works and I'm pretty sure you know that and are just taking a cheap shot at atheists by saying we're delusional just because some scientists are taking guesses at stuff we don't know yet.
Another difference is that just because I like science and have respect for scientists, that doesn't mean that I'm going to run around claiming that there are higher dimensions just because Michio Kaku thinks it's a possibility. Many Christians will believe anything they are told in church without any evidence.
The difference is that these scientists don't have a problem admitting that they could be wrong and that there are things that we don't know yet, and they are very interested in considering any evidence wether it supports their hypothesis or not. They are looking for answers, they are not claiming to know the answers, and when they do think they know something, they are willing to change their mind if somebody shows evidence that they are wrong.
You need to reconcile the rift in your reasoning. "Bible": Talking snakes, men from dirt, woman from ribs, world built in 7 days and less than 10k YO !
You honestly want to compare that to a lifes work in genetics?, or worse "theoretical" opinions from an area in science where the edge of sanity is rather close quite often? At least stick to "proven" physics like E=MC2
No, I don't need to reconcile anything to your satisfaction, just as I don't care or require you to justify or reconcile any of the beliefs you may hold.
Thanks for your opinions though... they are welcome here and you are welcome to them.
@Capn0bvious , Its not about my satisfaction, its about facts Vs theory and good quality logical critical thinking.
Just because someone has a Phd does not mean they don't get it wrong, it happens all the time. Thats what peer review and duplication of results by peers is all about, its the best system we have ever had.
@Capn0bvious , Prof. steven jones a Physicist, on paper has all the credentials, when you dig a little it gets murky. He is the "pride of the fleet" of scientists the "Truth Movement" hold up who claim massive thermite charges destroyed WTC1,2,7. He was also responsible for "Cold Fusion"in 1989, which no one has been able to reproduce and there is much much more "scientist"?
Pt3, It is apparent that these people are actively looking forward to the end of the world, because they THINK they are going to heaven, while the rest of us work our guts out tring to make peacefull solutions, its suicide bombing at a global level.
After WE INVADED Iraq and started torturing (whoops alt questioning) people I decided to challenge every religious person.
Pt2, worst of all they think that the end of days is near (as they always have) and see GW, Volcano's in iceland, war in Iraq, gay people, technology as the absolute proof that satan is at the door, so are now grabbing for power like never before.
Christian Bible verse ref stamped onto the side of a soldiers rifle scope by the manufacturer.
If people with religious beliefs, kept them to themselves, didn't abuse their children by brain washing them with it, sent missionaries to brain wash poor people (blackmail them for food), try to convert every person they meet like some kind of crazed amway recruiter and worst of all try to control the lives of all of the rest of us (oh and condone raping children), there would not be a problem!
I disagree, i dont think that calling religious people delusional is the same as calling scientists, that are on the cutting edge of their trade,delusional. The difference for me is actually quite big. And it derives from the different standards of proof in these two fields, and more importantly, different meaning of the word "to know"
Good video, however, I hope you can see the error of the false choice you presented us at the end of the video.
There is a huge difference between a scientist say "My calculations indicate that there is a possibility of extra dimension."
and a religious fanatic saying "There is no doubt that god exist in heaven" and then going on and listing particulars like how he likes his bulls slaughtered.
Science searches for knowledge and accepts proof, religion assumes knowledge and accepts anything.
Well, if you want to say that heaven or hell explains the nature of the forces, or that electricity alters heaven or hell, then sure...
It is an interesting theory, and I would like to hear your views on such subjects. Where I would personally disagree with you is that essentially strings exist on a level below quarks, and our senses simply can't detect them, when you submit the idea that god exists below quarks, how would we know about any god? Perhaps I've misunderstood you =/
This would be a good point if not for that tiny little fact - there is the (as you called it) 'vaguest residue of evidence' for string theory, whereas for Christianity there is no evidence at all. At least not the kind of evidence that could be tested by objective observers or proved by mathematics or anything like that. I'm still not saying you're all deluded - if all Christians were as smart and nice as you seem to be judged by these videos, I would have no grudge against them whatsoever.
I was getting ready to be offended about your comment until I checked out your channel. " Name: Ziplock, 63 years old, retired, uploads: 0, channel comments: 0".
Wow!....... Riveting stuff!
Being called boring by you is like being called retarded by Forrest Gump.
I think that believing in God, hell and heaven because it says so in the bible is substantially different from M theory since that works perfectly together with maths.
sorry, this is part 3..i keep running out of room. See my two posts below. Anyway, this kind of thinking invokes a "god of the gaps" reasoning. Whatever we can't directly see or understand, it must be god is there, or god did it. But, like it always has in the past, there is an extremely high likelihood that science will eventually "look" into these extra dimensions and discover god still isnt there. but the religious will always be around the corner to declare another hidding spot :)
Good points, but my argument is not that "it must be god is there, or god did it". My argument is who says that it can't have something to do with God?
I am not aware of any mathematical process that has disproved the existence of God. Saying that something automatically and without evidence precludes God is as ignorant as saying that it automatically and without evidence includes God.
sorry, i ran out of room...this is an extention of my comment below. In comparison to the physicists version of extra dimensions, the religious version has no concrete validation method whatsoever. This is why faith is needed. At one time, we thought god/heaven was in the stars. Then we studied the cosmos and discovered that wasnt true. Same thing for string theory. This theory has discovered a new "unknown" arena (more dimensions) that will likely open up "room" for god for many people.
Hey capnobvious- interesting discussion. I think there may be one significant difference between the the religious concept of other dimensions (heaven, hell), and the extra dimensions proposed by string theorists. String theorists use very advanced mathematics to show how these dimensions are possible. And, more importantly, this math can be validated and confirmed by separate scientists around the world. The results can be compared, and always shown to produce 11 dimensions total.
Scientists do not "believe" in anything. Certain assumptions must be made for any scientific progress. Theories must be explored in order for anything scientifically productive to happen, and, if those theories are proven wrong in the process, then science has still benefited. Religious people usually perceive their view on the world as absolute and unquestionable fact, and that is where the hole in their reasoning is.
I used to be a physics freak, then a computer programmer, i see nothing about science and God that contradict each other, ie. i made a smooth transition lol
The dimensions described in string and M theory aren't equivalent to what theists or 'spiritual people' like that muppet Deepak Chopra describe as dimensions.
and I don't see you worshiping Deepak just because he says 'quantum' again and again in a jarbled mess of science jargon, while quantum physics continues to progress.
i once was christain, but it was d bags like this who pulled shit out of their asses to fit their conclusion that made me come to my senses. science has math backing it up, you have anecdotes written by a hand full of people, picked and chosen to be put in some 'divine encyclopedia'
Hey I'm just making philosophical conversation over here, putz.
You got a problem with Christianity, you go take it up with the priest who poked you in the butt, not me..... this isn't the customer complaint department.
Are M-Theory and the theory of multiple dimensions the same as the theory of infinite multiple universes often used to explain the appearance of fine-tuning in universal constants? They seem to be two different things to me, although I have heard them described interchangeably. Either way, they are both equally lacking in evidence and make a good case that "science" is too often equated with "what smart people do."
To my understanding, M-Theory deals with a specific number of dimensions... but whether this is simply because that's the number of dimensions required to make their theory work, I don't know.
I agree that despite it's great advances, our science is far too uninformed to pretend to have any kind of ultimate answers to anything.
It's interesting how many "smart people" recoil at the idea of a dimension having anything to do with the supernatural...... or even life of any kind!
Could you link the video responses please? I've found a few of the video responses, but finding this video was quite hard and it wasnt in the related videos
"The kingdom of God is not coming with things that can be observed; nor will they say, Look, here it is!' or There it is!' For, in fact, the kingdom of God is among you" (Luke 17.20-21).
Either Jesus had direct knowledge of another dimension we know has Heaven or he was one of the very first to grasp the concept of M-Theory. It's incredible no matter what you believe.
There are those who hold that, what is described as the coming of the Kingdom of God on earth, will actually be a shift into a higher dimension caused by a great global catastrophe.
Any soul which is not vibrating within the frequency of peace and love will not be able to pass through into this dimension. This supposed to be what Jesus meant when he said "narrow is the gate by which one may enter into the Kingdom of Heaven."
Do quantum physics explain the existance of God or did the early writers of the Bible actually stumble upon quantum physics and not even know it? This is the crucial question of our age, IMO.
To answer the question on the description. The reason scientists believe in those things is that they use reason and mathematics. They didnt pulled that out of a 2000 year old book. Or even state that what they believe is the absolute truth.They just follow the evidence and reason. Is that the same as saying that a magic man created the universe and cares about some arbitrary aspects of someones life ? I dont think so.
I think the difference between science and religion is that science can change. Theories can change and be improved on.
I don't have a problem with the idea of God or religious belief itself, what I don't like about it is the claim that their answers are final and aren't to be questioned. That still doesn't mean somebody that believes in God can't be a great scientists. Georges Lamaitre believed in God, and he proposed the Big Bang theory.
Although I know of quite a few atheists that thought it would be a good idea to bring dogma into science...
So I guess you could say it goes both ways. I would still say that most of it has come from religion, but that might just because religion had a few thousand years start. Don't worry, give science a millennium or 2 and we'll have science churches controlling the masses :D. Everything has the possibility to become dogmatic.
You are entirely aware that atheism has nothing to do with supporting theoretical physics? M theory should be something for you to look at....if you want to believe that these proposed dimensions allow living space for the supernatural, then I will throw in that batman lives in one of them as well. If you don't understand physics, just shut it.
The fact of the matter is this; no one, not even physicists "understand physics" at more than a very basic level. Ask one yourself and see.
If you don't understand that, you should not be telling anyone to shut it.
And since your personal info declares that you have no respect for the beliefs of others, I feel no compunction whatsoever in telling you to go fuck yourself.
Love it man.I just found out about string theory & I am so intrigued.Imagine the possibilities.God may very well exist & even He may have a God & so on infinitely.
Disclaimer: My knowledge of string theory is limited to a bewildered "huh?" after reading a bit about it (and watching a few youtube clips).
It's my understanding that the math supports string theory (perhaps more correctly string hypothesis?), but there hasn't been any testing for it.. yet. I think that's one of the major jobs of LHC.
It all comes back to evidence again. At the moment I'm ignorant of ST, but if LHC proves it, I'll bust out the books and learn about it.
However I didn't "say that the supernatural hides in extra dimensions", I entertained it as a possibility. Which, I believe, is not only within the bounds of proper logic and reasoning but is the very first step in the process.
We'll all find out soon enough whether there is anything to the God question, don't you think?
would you care to explain how the supernatural is within the bounds of logic and reason ?? Why should it be the first step of the process when every single time it has been done, the assumption turns out to be wrong. Please do explain this.
Well supernatural by definition means something that does not conform to the laws of nature. You can't produce conclusive logic to a system where an (logical) atom can be both true and false for example. I will repeat my second question: Why should the supernatural be the first step of the process when every single time it has been, the assumption turns out to be wrong. Please do explain this.
Nobody said it had to be the first, or any, step in your own personal process.
These are my own beliefs and my own opinions. Why do you care what I believe? Why should I care what some faceless person thousands of miles away believes?
silly billy.If ya can't touch it smell it or taste it and it doesn't interact in any way in your life you can just fuggetaboutit...........wake up and smell reality ya twat
So you're saying that the entirety of the Universe outside of our solar system (which none of us can touch, smell, taste and which doesn't in any way interact with our lives) doesn't exist?
That's an interesting reality you're asking me to sniff there, Professor. I think I like my version better.
I understand "delusional" is a bit harsh, but I can't see the logic in the comparison you make. "Belief" in the sense of rational truth statements is a matter of collected evidence and assessed probabilities.
For the comparison to work effectively, one would need to produce comparable evidence for the specific definition of god(s) that one is asserting. Would you honestly say the question of God's existence is on the same evidentiary playing field as gravitational theory or quantum theory?
f Theoretical Physicists can believe in invisible dimensions and unseen realms without being ridiculed, why can't religious people. If there really are something like 10 or 11 dimensions around us, who is to say that those dimensions are not what the Bible calls "heaven" or "hell" or even "God"?
BECAUSE THEY TRY TO PROOF OR PROOF WHAT EXIST AND EXPLAINN IT THE BIBLE JUST GIVES U SOMETHING TO BELIEVE BTW I BELIEVE IN GOD
Thanks. I'm preaching to the choir, but if you enjoyed this video you will also enjoy Painting with the Big Bang of Genesis-- another YT video. You can see the strings symbolically represented and form a universe. Visually inspiring and the brand new Posr Conceptual Art of the 21st Century.
If there's one thing i am annoyed about is the ' Delusional ' banded around concerning theists, my guess is people took a hold of Richard Dawkins ' The God Delusion ' and ran wild with it!. Dawkins isn't even qualified in his field to say believers are delusional in general, there is plenty of evidences for atheists that are psychiatric delusionals! People are actually abusing that psychiatric word ' Delusional ' & boy that is at present Peeing me off!
I agree that many of today's new atheists cannot do more than mindlessly regurgitate anti-religious screeds from popular atheist authors, without having any real knowledge of religion.
But in fairness, the same thing can be said about many, many Christians who cannot do more than regurgitate Bible passages, but don't have any real knowledge of Christianity.
Now that Capn0bvious i wholeheartily agree with!....Still, we can chuckle at that situation and make jokes of ' the pot calling the kettle black, when the pot is black too '. Haha!
It's not delusional to come up with theories and ideas that attempt to explain phenomena. All great theories are subject to scrutiny before they are accepted... remember Albert Einsteins Eclipse Experiment... the day his calculations were finally proven.
The problem many atheists have with biblical claims is they cannot be tested or proven, and have become "hands off" when it comes to criticism, a strange luxury especially given the burning criticism your average atheist receives.
What is religion to a non-religious person, if not a theory of origin?
Every theory must be tested and subject to scrutiny, which shouldn't be looked down upon... the pursuit of truth is an amazing and powerful thing.
Lets hope the Large Hadron Collider yields some interesting data! Rest assured, if there was a test that could prove the existence of God or Metaphysical claims then scientists and atheists alike would all be dancing in the streets! All we want is truth without blind faith.
Remember, science is the pursuit of knowledge! It's important to render any claims we, a preacher, or a book make about the world to the same scrutiny and process as any other theory. From a non-religious stand point, what is religion if not a theory of origin?
It's hard for any faction to see things from the other sides perspective, but open mindedness is the bridge to understanding.
One thing is for certain, if science could prove the existance of God, we would all be dancing in the streets.
The scientific method exists to test our many zany ideas as humans... whether to prove or disprove them. Lets not forget that Gregory Mendel was the father of genetics, and he was an Augustinian Priest!
String theory receives mixed reviews in the scientific community, and thus far is completely untestable. They can write mathematical equations that compute but cannot make a testable prediction, and so currently falls far short of "What science knows".
I don't think all atheists are ' Delusional ' the same as not all ' Theists ' from one denomination or another is ' Delusional ' i think it's possible that you will find some atheists as well as theists can be ' delusional ' , however this is a label put on those people by professionals qualified to say whether or not a person is delusional or not. The string theory is ' imaginative ' which is a natural occurance in a human being. A belief as we know it.
Great response, bugogurac. Another thought, science never "proves" anything; it either supports or fails to support hypotheses. "Proof" is for other ways of knowing.
For instance, if "strings" stretched into membranes or multiple dimensions are responsible for everything, what are "strings"? What are they made of? Where did the first "string" come from? And the problem is the same for God. If God created everything, what is God? Where did God come from? Humans are very used to everything having a beginning, and an end. Infinite regression is something our brains are not set up to deal with.
Faith in (something) is universal. Either you have faith an unseen God, or you have faith in theoretical physics. Unfortunately, string theory is based only in complex mathematical equations, and God is based only on the word of a book written long before people knew what an atom was. I think that the draw in being an atheist is the lack of intelligence in the creation of everything. Not everything has a purpose, it just is. But either way, the problem is infinite regression.
Love your stuff man. I have complete respect for your opinion and views. I do feel it necessary to point out that string theory doesn't believe that magical devils and demons are waiting to poke me in the rear. (you can take that whatever way u want)Then theres the whole thing where science likes to get to the bottom of things even if it means being wrong, instead of saying"you just have to have faith". (I guess somehow that makes it fact). I'm not an Atheist or Christian or Dummy(debatable)
Scientists don't claim their ideas as the final and only truth. They are very ready to be disproved.
Second and more important is that their ideas do not come out of the literary work or just out of imagination. They come out of the long string of mathematical formulas, backed by logic. Now, since our brain is imperfect, there is a good reason for doubt. But there is logic behind it, and a lots of answers to any "why" or "how". Can't say that for the religious.
Who says there can be no reason behind believing in God. Not all religious people are living with their eyes wide shut. No one, absolutely no one can be certain of what the "truth" is. Scientific theories have been proven wrong and scientists have had to continually revise and adjust their theories under assumption after assumption simply because human knowledge is limited as you said. So how can anyone be 100% percent certain God doesn't exist when they can't prove it.
Modern physics has pats about it that can not yet be proved. However, if you follow modern physics you can predict things to a very precise margin. Like what time the sun will rise in 1,000,000 years.
Religion also asks you to take a leap of faith, but the last time I checked jesus never predicted anything that has yet come true with any regularity.
Religion is for anti intellectual clowns. I read some of your comments specifically the one about how you like to pick and choose what you believe out of the bible. So you're the single authority that knows that the only part of the bible is true is jesus? That is so ridiculous it's laughable. The real reason you say that is because jesus is the only semi sane part of the bible that you feel you can rationalize to yourself that it's ok to believe in.
CFrostyTheSnowman 2 months ago
@Capn0bvious
A few things need to be said here. Atheists are not the only ones who accept the claims of theoretical physicists. Many Christians and believers do.
Ok. Rational people form beliefs based on evidence. When this theories are supported by new information, they become easier to believe. When people trade away reason for faith regarding ANY beliefs, it is irrational. If I scientists spends their whole life trying to prove string theory, you could argue they have faith in it and say
mellamosean 4 months ago
@Capn0bvious
they are biased. But over time, the general consensus of scientists will weed out the bullshit. Theoretical physics is way too confused to understand for the average person who only dips into the subject every once in awhile (yes, that includes me, and probably you), so I think that, unless there is a strong consensus between theoretical physicists, nobody should pretend anything is fact.
mellamosean 4 months ago
@Capn0bvious
Nobody will ever prove that heaven or god don't exist, because they are defined by religious people in a way that makes them impossible to disprove. These theories that theoretical physicists come up with can be proven and disproved; if they couldn't nobody would listen to them. What science does is continuously remove God back as the direct cause of things. You can always claim God answers what we currently don't know. This is mostly a response to your video description.
mellamosean 4 months ago
So what has this got to do with theism? You seem to be attributing the unknown to an assumption that you already have, that no matter what the answers turn out to be you will still equivocate them to some loose verse in the bible, quran or torah. There being extra dimensions has nothing to do with the supernatural. It is an unknown and it will remain an unknown until it is known via a provable scientific method, it has nothing to do with the preconceived ideas of theism.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
So you're validating a belief in religion because scientists have a mathematic model that invokes other dimensions? And you claim those dimensions might be god, heaven or hell? And you want to know if atheists are delusional? Really?
gd44 9 months ago
Awesome man. I myself have been through the ringer when it comes to beliefs.I was born and raised as a catholic, then at age 12 I was wiccan, then just agnostic, then i was somewhat of an atheist but quickly left the "movement" because I hate that it lacks empathy and understanding of people who believe in god and wants to degrade them, it's pathetic. I find it extremely interesting that there are so many similarities between Hinduism and M theory. I don't believe in god but I agree with you :)
bassvoxgtarchick 9 months ago
@bassvoxgtarchick
If you changed your beliefs from Atheism to something else because of how other Atheists acted, then you have a very weak character. I am an Atheist yet I do not lack empathy or understanding of people, in fact I volunteer my time to help others and spend a lot of time trying to garner a better understanding of other people so that I may be more empathetic (I still struggle with having empathy for those whom I consider "bad" people).
JordeeVee 6 months ago
Okay, look. You, take your belife, your god, from a traditional belife witch where thoth up for as far back as 4000 years ago! StringTheory is an advanced mathematical model, witch help us understand the realety in witch we exist. This is what we have came to, WITH STUDY, not listening to a old storyBook and blindly accepting it. IF you do not see the HUGE differance, i can not help you.
Sciense does not in any way support an existance of a intellegance, but an reality made up of NaturalForces
Aikwood666 10 months ago
LOL this video is ridiculous! maybe santa clause lives in these other dimensions, maybe the tooth fairy? why does it have to be god? it can explain any fairytale you want! HAHAHAHAHA! fact is, out side of the bible, nothing points to existence of GOD, santa clause, or the tooth fairy. if you say "we cant explain something therefore it must be the design a higher power" then you live in the dimension of ridiculousness! and thats a visible dimension! LOL
riskitonme 10 months ago
the dimensions that they are talking about are at the subatomic level! it's not we are in them! and something in one of these dimensions cant interact with the one we are in!
franktastikart 10 months ago
From what I gather string theory isn't fact exactly. It's mathematically satisfying but it lacks any really experimentation. That doesn't mean that in the future it won't be proven right.
It has a basis in mathematics, unlike God which was taken out of thin air and heaven which was thought to be in the sky until we flew planes up there.
begood20000 1 year ago
All God's messengers told us about the "Extra Dimensions" and the "Parallel Universes", the only difference between them and our modern physicists is they called these "Parallel Universes" as "Heaven and Hell". Good work brother.
helasmoh 1 year ago
@helasmoh That's very convenient of you to slip in Heaven & Hell there. No where does string theory say that one dimension or parallel universe is a place of eternal torment or another one is a place of bliss. Also, nowhere does string theory say that you go to these places when you die. I'm not an expert on string theory but I know it doesn't say those things.
begood20000 1 year ago
@begood20000
String theory and quantum physics are telling us clearly with scientific evidence that what we call our "physical reality" is a delusion. This is exactly what all God messengers told us, this temporary universe will be destroyed and we will go back to the origin of our existence. nothing of what you do or even think of will be lost. I didn't bring anything new neither did these theories, it is just a matter how to name them.
helasmoh 11 months ago
@helasmoh You are bringing something new to it & it's not just a matter of how you name them. You're twisting string theory to fit your own theory when it has nothing got to do with Christianity or any other religion.
It doesn't say our physical reality is a delusion. We have 3 dimensions we can perceive & a 4th which is time. Part of ST states than there are other dimensions that we can't currently perceive. String theory is not yet fact either but it is mathematically satisfying.
begood20000 11 months ago
@begood20000
I'm a follower of Jesus Christ indeed but not a Christian. I hope you can watch my video against "Quantum Man", Lawrence Krauss and his "quantum theory", sorry, I mean "No Need for God" theory.
/watch?v=cv7lCR-7AKQ
helasmoh 11 months ago
@helasmoh Oh please you're embarassing yourself. Your video just interprets the quran to make it fit with science. Are you going to keep trying to fit a square block into a round hole?
begood20000 11 months ago
@begood20000
Read the description of this video of my Christian brother, look at the whole picture and think a little, that of course if you are a true "free thinker", after that, believe whatever you want to believe. If God exist, both of us will know very soon. I wish you all the best.
helasmoh 11 months ago
@begood20000 well said!
riskitonme 10 months ago
@helasmoh rofl
mythicalhell 11 months ago
@mythicalhell
People like you don't believe in these dimensions but the instant you die there will be another kind of rolling, but it will not be on floor laughing, it will be rolling on fire for eternity. Keep rofl for now.
helasmoh 11 months ago
@helasmoh What are you talking about, if scientists discover string theory why wouldn't I believe in it?
mythicalhell 11 months ago
@helasmoh ROFL TO AN ETERNAL HELL!!
mythicalhell 11 months ago
@helasmoh Are you butt hurt that I'm mocking you? TOO FUCKING BAD
mythicalhell 11 months ago
I have to agree with ApesAmongUs on this one. And also add that the reasons they beleive in these dimensions is because the math for explaining things in the small scales described, works out with the addition of multiple dimensions.
Though, even as an athiest, who prefers spelling athiest wrong, i respect your thought processes and love your videos. Especially the one(s) ripping on dendrophillian.
I wish i could meet you in real life :)
EriKingOfTheWorld 1 year ago
String theory does not use "dimension" in the bad sci-fi startrek way that you seem to consider it. It's "dimension" like height and width and depth - those 11 potential dimensions are directions, not fully formed alternate universes. As long as you think in those terms, any claim you have to scientific investigation gets lost in your lack of understanding of the meanings of the words.
ApesAmongUs 1 year ago 6
@CapnObvious I share your awe, however, TOE, String Theory, M Theory are in no way postulating the supernatural. You have conflated 'other dimensions' with 'the supernatural' and then built your position from this sleight of hand. What these theories are attempting is amazing and natural explanations for observable phenomena such as the weakness of gravity. People would not call these scientists delusional because they are postulating theories, not claiming to know.
MrMonkeyInk 1 year ago
Why does it have to be "God OR Science"? Why can't it be both? Why can't all the scientific laws that exist today and are known about today exist at the same time as a "God"? Perhaps this "God" created the "big bang" in a sense. This "God" created the game, set up the rules, then sat back and is watching it all played out. "Is there a God"? Why does it matter? If an atheist is right, good for them. If a theist is right, well then good for them too. The thing is, neither way can be proven.
AvalonDraconis 1 year ago
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PreppyPoser1 1 year ago
@PreppyPoser1 well you just said a "mouthful" I bet you can deep throat too. mmmmm
mythicalhell 11 months ago
First of all, m theory states that, if another dimension exist around our world, which is actually in the 4th dimension (movement and time), that the external dimension can not interfere with our dimension. Also the other dimension is nearly the same as ours, save for a few small differences. The 5th dimension is essentially a parallel universe in science fiction terms. Also, our universe is a closed system, therefore no energy can be added or removed, therefore no outside force can affect us.
Ye4hBuddy 1 year ago
you DON'T get it. if you believe in christianity, you've already proven that you're willing to live life based on wishful thinking. there are several thousand existing christian cults that all believe in contradicting ideas-which one is right? or maybe the other couple of thousand "pagan"religions are right? forget physics-which christianity is the right one? the one you believe in because god picked you? thats so typically arrogant...a personal relationship? awwwww, how special and unique-not.
69freeman 1 year ago
As someone else has said before, these theories can be tested and proven. The math works. You can't test your faith with math. It's a fairy tale.
MrTruthAddict 1 year ago 4
@MrTruthAddict
And as I have said before, please provide a link to the material that shows that string theory has been "proven".
Capn0bvious 1 year ago
@Capn0bvious Haha, very funny. The theory of gravity hasn't been "proven" either but it can be tested. Can you say that for your sky daddy theory? No you can't.
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FallofDarkness55 1 year ago
@Capn0bvious In a few years it will be proven with the LHC at Cern in Switzerland. If the final energy after the collision is measured to be less than the initial energy before the particle's collision, then that's evidence of the energy drifting away into hidden dimensions that we can't see. Also to me the idea of a supernatural being creating our universe is absurd. I don't believe energy was created by God. In fact it would violate the laws of physics. There has to be a multi-verse.
FallofDarkness55 11 months ago
@Capn0bvious its been mathematically proven, you would have to be extremely well read in theoretical physics and abstract math to understand it. however, im not going to tell you that string theory is accurate reason being is that it hasn't been backed up by physical experimentation, but they predict with the next particle accelerator coming in the next 5 years we will be able to see if it holds up in the physical/experimental world. so I guess you and i will both get to see!
riskitonme 10 months ago
Can't watch the vid at the moment but I'll throw in my 20c. 'Invisible' dimensions are theories, not asserted as facts like religious claims - there are also good reasons to accept that they may exist. Physicists also don't try to legislate their theories. Asking if atheists are delusional... well it depends, delusional regarding what? If you mean rejecting notions of a god, then you're asking whether atheists are delusional for rejecting something for which there is insufficient evidence.
controllerbrain 1 year ago
"If Theoretical Physicists can believe in invisible dimensions and unseen realms without being ridiculed, why can't religious people. If there really are something like 10 or 11 dimensions around us, who is to say that those dimensions are not what the Bible calls "heaven" or "hell" or even "God"?"
Evidence; Mathmatics, Repitition, Prediction and Application.
Next Question.
faithfire02 1 year ago
@faithfire02 the odds that you guessed correctly about one of the dimensions based on a book written by bronze age ignoramuses, are astronomical. Google scientific method. Learn something.
MrTruthAddict 1 year ago
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@MrTruthAddict
I said nothing about guessing. All I'm going to do is quote my own comment, because I can't make it any clearer than that. "Evidence; Mathmatics, Repitition, Prediction and Application." I'm also not interested in arguing this through ad hominem. Telling me to learn something is moot because you know nothing of my character. If you have a valid retort, based on reason, directly related to what I've said, then say it.
faithfire02 1 year ago
Too bad religion has been around longer than science, yet science had made far more progress than religion ever will. You know why? There is no god. And if a Christian wants to ask how we're all here, ask yourself how god got there first. If you want to say god is eternal, and that he's always been here, then so is the rest of the world.
Doodorz 1 year ago
the mathematics predicts the extra dimensions. religious people are slightly mad but hey who says thats a bad thing.
michaelw2711 1 year ago
lololololololol please remake this video after you think about some of these comments.
HatemailMagnet 1 year ago
YO! captain oblivious! Try studing the math behind string theory. Scientists don't just come up with theories that feel good to them. They start with a hypothosis, spend years working out the mathmatical model for it, submit it for peer review, spend even more years trying to prove it wrong and if their model works, then they publish. After that it's studied by more scientists,refined and rechecked for years, peer reviewed again. That's how string theory became M-theory.
panterguy 1 year ago
I got as far as 30 seconds - you seem to misunderstand what atheism means.
Atheism means no belief in gods. Atheism does not mean belief in string theory, quantum mechanics or anything else.
trooperJac 1 year ago
@trooperJac Yeah, this is a common problem among a lot of people. Attaching extra meaning. Atheism means one sentence - it means no belief in a god, but that doesn't mean belief in something else.
controllerbrain 1 year ago
you ignore the crucial element of physics and M theory... they use math and probability when describing the universe, statistical consistency. it is completely incompatible with the concept of religion; science has been disproving religiously held notions time and again, more and more as history develops
qwecjc 1 year ago
Do you understand scientific theory has nothing to do with atheism? What you are talking about are ideas not concert facts. I am an atheist and I don't ever think String Theory is a real theory.
Atheism is a non belief in god that does not need science.
customerjon 1 year ago
"If Theoretical Physicists can believe in invisible dimensions and unseen realms without being ridiculed, why can't religious people."
because theoretical physicists don't believe in extra dimensions, they predict that they exist, and are trying to figure how how to test for their existence..can u say the same for theists?
itzahazylife 1 year ago
Well, in your video you only speak of what a scientific mind you have. Go ahead and bust it down for me why the books of Mary, Peter and Judas, not to mention the other 60 gospels that were thrown out, were considered not worthy of study? Was god talking to Emporer Constantine telling him which books were actually his words?
crazy4carolyn 1 year ago
@crazy4carolyn
I have no idea, as I believe that any work which speaks of Jesus' life and ministry is worthy of study. I don't believe that the Bible, as canonized by the Roman Catholic Church is the final authority on anything, Jesus is.
Capn0bvious 1 year ago
@Capn0bvious Might I ask..., WHAT makes Jesus so worthy of your studies?
crazy4carolyn 1 year ago
@crazy4carolyn
I have no idea, as I believe that any work which speaks of Jesus' life and ministry is worthy of study. I don't believe that the Bible, as canonized by the Roman Catholic Church is the final authority on anything, Jesus is.
Capn0bvious 1 year ago
@Capn0bvious even if you believe in Jesus, and even if he existed is no proof that god exists or is in any way related to the Nazarene-who apparently was one of hundreds of messianic end of days prophets wandering around palestine 2000 yrs ago-still no proof of god...the existance of a book written by people speaking "god's word" is no explanation of god or his existance....
69freeman 1 year ago
@Capn0bvious i think you should read "a brief history of space time"-Stephen Hawking and "physics of the impossible"-by Michio Kaku both are quite interesting and explain how this theory along with many others came to be. i think everyone should research type 1 parallel universes thats just on of those things that seems more likely than not
jeremytheknight 1 year ago
@crazy4carolyn Constantine wasn't an editor in the compilation of Sacred Scripture. In compiling canon, The Church, it's members, Jerome et all arrived at those selected books and letters which were consistent and accurate with The Church's understanding of Sacred Tradition, which persevered despite Rome's active persecution until Constantine's edict. But the notion that Constantine had some individual responsibility which Sacred Scripture reflects is entirely preposterous. Henry XIII he was not
NilDesperandum777 1 year ago
@NilDesperandum777 I'd suggest you do a little more research. Constantine was the one who compiled the canonizers and had pretty much dictated the 4 gospels as the ones he wanted. He did that because 2 of the gospels (but not the other 2, go figure. Ofcourse that happens repeatedly in the gospels.) spoke of Pontus Pilot "washing his hands of the crucifiction" and that looked favorable to the Roman empire. The other two gospel were CLOSE to the first 2 so that was, again, reason for thier incl.
crazy4carolyn 1 year ago
@crazy4carolyn You would have to provide a source in addition to advising me to "do some research", because there's a lot of babble floating about that's obviously anything but scholarly. Because nothing what you're offering constitutes fact. For example, St. Iraneus's "Against Heresies" (182-188 AD) testifies to the Tetramorph or Quadriform (Fourfold) Gospel given in unity. So if you want to believe that Constantine chose the four gospels for the reasons you've stated...By all means...
NilDesperandum777 1 year ago
@crazy4carolyn Go back further into Church history and you'll find St.Ignatius and Polycarp using the Pauline epistles, and the Tetramorph using the first phrase of consecration "It is written" around 110AD. Without getting into the supplementary and complementary character of Sacred Scripture...Pilate washing his hands need hardly be included for only the purpose of absolving Rome, given the other redundant testimony. There's a prophetic, Jewish component to that action as well. And on and on..
NilDesperandum777 1 year ago
@crazy4carolyn I'd add thirdly, that anyone acquainted with people in positions of power, can rest assured of one thing....That one thing they most certainly do not do, is "grunt work". At bare minimum, the gathering of copies would have been as a means, following his conversion, to provide a cessation in persecution of said Christians, and to, as Rome always had done, absorb culture for it's own uses...The canonicity of Sacred Scripture,and the the maintenance of Tradition was long established.
NilDesperandum777 1 year ago
@crazy4carolyn One last thing...It's "crucifixion" not "crucifiction"....Wouldnt want to mistake you for laying needless insult or even worse... a mohammedan apologist in the vein of Deedat now would we...
NilDesperandum777 1 year ago
@crazy4carolyn
The book of Peter IS in the canonical Bible! The gospels of Judas and Mary M. were recently discovered. These make up the deuterocanonical books of the Bible (not the Apocryphal texts). These so-called non-canonical books were excluded at the second Nicene Council, which violated many Biblical laws, like not venerating icons. The Dead Sea scrolls are being decypered to this day, and much knowledge is being found. God reveals all, when he feels fit to do so.
themelancholy1 1 year ago
I would suggest that you might need to work on your biblical and general history knowledge? You would see more of the problems with taking one of those old books too seriously.
crazy4carolyn 1 year ago
@crazy4carolyn
Actually, I consider my biblical and general history knowledge to be above par. Perhaps you would like to be a little more specific about the "problems with taking one of those old books too seriously and I'll be happy to deconstruct your argument for you.
Capn0bvious 1 year ago
@Capn0bvious You're very cute in the way you act like you know things and convey, honestly, NOTHING. Some of your arguments delve, ever so SLIGHTLY in actual fact. Then you throw in all types of BS (for lack of a better term!) And then you try and close it wth emotional assuradness and patrionizing me w/ speling errors. You, either, work for faux news or you're a mental case?! Could you please clarify so I can stop trying to discern which?!
crazy4carolyn 1 year ago
@crazy4carolyn Are you responding to me indirectly re:"speling errors." And it's "spelling", because grammar DOES matter.And it wasn't a simple correction in your grammar, it's correction in your LACK of knowledge on the subject despite confidence to the contrary. If you were actually an honest seeking person of knowledge, when corrected you would relent and contemplate your error rather than engage in ad hominem attacks. The clearest signal that a person has lost the argument incidentally.
NilDesperandum777 1 year ago
Ok, I'm thinking that taking guesses was a poor choice of words on my part since they have done complex equations that explain how these theories could be possible that I could never hope to understand but it's not like the theory of evolution which we actually have solid proof for.
Primalxbeast 1 year ago
Theoretical physicists are pushing the envelope of what we are capable of understanding at this point so they will make mistakes that will be corrected as they get more information. This is how science works and I'm pretty sure you know that and are just taking a cheap shot at atheists by saying we're delusional just because some scientists are taking guesses at stuff we don't know yet.
Primalxbeast 1 year ago
Another difference is that just because I like science and have respect for scientists, that doesn't mean that I'm going to run around claiming that there are higher dimensions just because Michio Kaku thinks it's a possibility. Many Christians will believe anything they are told in church without any evidence.
Primalxbeast 1 year ago
The difference is that these scientists don't have a problem admitting that they could be wrong and that there are things that we don't know yet, and they are very interested in considering any evidence wether it supports their hypothesis or not. They are looking for answers, they are not claiming to know the answers, and when they do think they know something, they are willing to change their mind if somebody shows evidence that they are wrong.
Primalxbeast 1 year ago
You need to reconcile the rift in your reasoning. "Bible": Talking snakes, men from dirt, woman from ribs, world built in 7 days and less than 10k YO !
You honestly want to compare that to a lifes work in genetics?, or worse "theoretical" opinions from an area in science where the edge of sanity is rather close quite often? At least stick to "proven" physics like E=MC2
1BustedMyth 1 year ago
No, I don't need to reconcile anything to your satisfaction, just as I don't care or require you to justify or reconcile any of the beliefs you may hold.
Thanks for your opinions though... they are welcome here and you are welcome to them.
Peace.
Capn0bvious 1 year ago
@Capn0bvious , That reply sounds like "I will pray for you" :)
Personaly I am very pleased you have an interest in real science, how ever its difficult to be half pregnant!
I myself see String Theory as SF for now and the it has always grated me since it came out, so does green, time will tell.
1BustedMyth 1 year ago
@Capn0bvious , Its not about my satisfaction, its about facts Vs theory and good quality logical critical thinking.
Just because someone has a Phd does not mean they don't get it wrong, it happens all the time. Thats what peer review and duplication of results by peers is all about, its the best system we have ever had.
1BustedMyth 1 year ago
@Capn0bvious , Prof. steven jones a Physicist, on paper has all the credentials, when you dig a little it gets murky. He is the "pride of the fleet" of scientists the "Truth Movement" hold up who claim massive thermite charges destroyed WTC1,2,7. He was also responsible for "Cold Fusion"in 1989, which no one has been able to reproduce and there is much much more "scientist"?
1BustedMyth 1 year ago
Dawkins is a geneticist, that means studying what IS there.
A "THEORETICAL" Physicist "Hypothosizes" what "MIGHT" be there.
The movie "a Beautifull Mind" Game Theory, E=MC2 all examples of brilliant minds on the edge, this is especially true for physicists.
1BustedMyth 1 year ago
Pt3, It is apparent that these people are actively looking forward to the end of the world, because they THINK they are going to heaven, while the rest of us work our guts out tring to make peacefull solutions, its suicide bombing at a global level.
After WE INVADED Iraq and started torturing (whoops alt questioning) people I decided to challenge every religious person.
1BustedMyth 1 year ago
Pt2, worst of all they think that the end of days is near (as they always have) and see GW, Volcano's in iceland, war in Iraq, gay people, technology as the absolute proof that satan is at the door, so are now grabbing for power like never before.
Christian Bible verse ref stamped onto the side of a soldiers rifle scope by the manufacturer.
1BustedMyth 1 year ago
If people with religious beliefs, kept them to themselves, didn't abuse their children by brain washing them with it, sent missionaries to brain wash poor people (blackmail them for food), try to convert every person they meet like some kind of crazed amway recruiter and worst of all try to control the lives of all of the rest of us (oh and condone raping children), there would not be a problem!
1BustedMyth 1 year ago
great video btw, this is what youtube is for
avion85 1 year ago
@avion85
Thank you. Great comments. I appreciate the feedback.
Capn0bvious 1 year ago
For a scientist, to be able to presume how the world acts, or what the world is, each theory has to conform to other well know and established laws.
This foundation is nowhere to be found in religious doctrine, as it in fact does not exist, nor do i think it can ever be.
This i see as the major difference between your views, each religious assertion can not be assessed, tested or verified.
avion85 1 year ago
I disagree, i dont think that calling religious people delusional is the same as calling scientists, that are on the cutting edge of their trade,delusional. The difference for me is actually quite big. And it derives from the different standards of proof in these two fields, and more importantly, different meaning of the word "to know"
avion85 1 year ago
Good video, however, I hope you can see the error of the false choice you presented us at the end of the video.
There is a huge difference between a scientist say "My calculations indicate that there is a possibility of extra dimension."
and a religious fanatic saying "There is no doubt that god exist in heaven" and then going on and listing particulars like how he likes his bulls slaughtered.
Science searches for knowledge and accepts proof, religion assumes knowledge and accepts anything.
Orson1981 1 year ago
Well, if you want to say that heaven or hell explains the nature of the forces, or that electricity alters heaven or hell, then sure...
It is an interesting theory, and I would like to hear your views on such subjects. Where I would personally disagree with you is that essentially strings exist on a level below quarks, and our senses simply can't detect them, when you submit the idea that god exists below quarks, how would we know about any god? Perhaps I've misunderstood you =/
Samuelwhatshisface 1 year ago
This would be a good point if not for that tiny little fact - there is the (as you called it) 'vaguest residue of evidence' for string theory, whereas for Christianity there is no evidence at all. At least not the kind of evidence that could be tested by objective observers or proved by mathematics or anything like that. I'm still not saying you're all deluded - if all Christians were as smart and nice as you seem to be judged by these videos, I would have no grudge against them whatsoever.
mellielli 1 year ago
Man, you are BORING!
onenewshoe 1 year ago
I was getting ready to be offended about your comment until I checked out your channel. " Name: Ziplock, 63 years old, retired, uploads: 0, channel comments: 0".
Wow!....... Riveting stuff!
Being called boring by you is like being called retarded by Forrest Gump.
Capn0bvious 1 year ago
I think that believing in God, hell and heaven because it says so in the bible is substantially different from M theory since that works perfectly together with maths.
crimron 1 year ago
sorry, this is part 3..i keep running out of room. See my two posts below. Anyway, this kind of thinking invokes a "god of the gaps" reasoning. Whatever we can't directly see or understand, it must be god is there, or god did it. But, like it always has in the past, there is an extremely high likelihood that science will eventually "look" into these extra dimensions and discover god still isnt there. but the religious will always be around the corner to declare another hidding spot :)
greg14228 2 years ago
Good points, but my argument is not that "it must be god is there, or god did it". My argument is who says that it can't have something to do with God?
I am not aware of any mathematical process that has disproved the existence of God. Saying that something automatically and without evidence precludes God is as ignorant as saying that it automatically and without evidence includes God.
Thanks for your comments. They are appreciated.
Peace.
Capn0bvious 2 years ago
sorry, i ran out of room...this is an extention of my comment below. In comparison to the physicists version of extra dimensions, the religious version has no concrete validation method whatsoever. This is why faith is needed. At one time, we thought god/heaven was in the stars. Then we studied the cosmos and discovered that wasnt true. Same thing for string theory. This theory has discovered a new "unknown" arena (more dimensions) that will likely open up "room" for god for many people.
greg14228 2 years ago
Hey capnobvious- interesting discussion. I think there may be one significant difference between the the religious concept of other dimensions (heaven, hell), and the extra dimensions proposed by string theorists. String theorists use very advanced mathematics to show how these dimensions are possible. And, more importantly, this math can be validated and confirmed by separate scientists around the world. The results can be compared, and always shown to produce 11 dimensions total.
greg14228 2 years ago
Scientists do not "believe" in anything. Certain assumptions must be made for any scientific progress. Theories must be explored in order for anything scientifically productive to happen, and, if those theories are proven wrong in the process, then science has still benefited. Religious people usually perceive their view on the world as absolute and unquestionable fact, and that is where the hole in their reasoning is.
LockeH27 2 years ago
I used to be a physics freak, then a computer programmer, i see nothing about science and God that contradict each other, ie. i made a smooth transition lol
misplacedwonder 2 years ago
The dimensions described in string and M theory aren't equivalent to what theists or 'spiritual people' like that muppet Deepak Chopra describe as dimensions.
and I don't see you worshiping Deepak just because he says 'quantum' again and again in a jarbled mess of science jargon, while quantum physics continues to progress.
AtheismandSkepticism 2 years ago
Nice video
00viperXX 2 years ago
i once was christain, but it was d bags like this who pulled shit out of their asses to fit their conclusion that made me come to my senses. science has math backing it up, you have anecdotes written by a hand full of people, picked and chosen to be put in some 'divine encyclopedia'
desalvoanthony 2 years ago
Hey I'm just making philosophical conversation over here, putz.
You got a problem with Christianity, you go take it up with the priest who poked you in the butt, not me..... this isn't the customer complaint department.
Capn0bvious 2 years ago
Are M-Theory and the theory of multiple dimensions the same as the theory of infinite multiple universes often used to explain the appearance of fine-tuning in universal constants? They seem to be two different things to me, although I have heard them described interchangeably. Either way, they are both equally lacking in evidence and make a good case that "science" is too often equated with "what smart people do."
jonathanpaulmayer 2 years ago
To my understanding, M-Theory deals with a specific number of dimensions... but whether this is simply because that's the number of dimensions required to make their theory work, I don't know.
I agree that despite it's great advances, our science is far too uninformed to pretend to have any kind of ultimate answers to anything.
It's interesting how many "smart people" recoil at the idea of a dimension having anything to do with the supernatural...... or even life of any kind!
Capn0bvious 2 years ago
"Either Jesus had direct knowledge of another dimension we know has Heaven or he was one of the very first to grasp the concept of M-Theory."
Is this exchange serious or are you guys joking around?
mrw21 2 years ago
No, really, they are serious....
be afraid be very afraid...
mojo972 2 years ago
Afraid of what?
Capn0bvious 2 years ago
I just have a small request:
Could you link the video responses please? I've found a few of the video responses, but finding this video was quite hard and it wasnt in the related videos
Thank you :)
Tiwaking 2 years ago
Check out Dinesh D'Souza's book What's So Great About Christianity. Atheism simply doesn't hold up under scrutiny.
barrysbody 2 years ago
Thanks, I will. Have you read "The Irrational Atheist" by Vox Day?
Capn0bvious 2 years ago
Here's another example of this:
"In my father's house are many rooms . . . and if I go to prepare a place for you, I will come again" (John 14.2-3).
Sound familiar?
LordSupro 2 years ago
"The kingdom of God is not coming with things that can be observed; nor will they say, Look, here it is!' or There it is!' For, in fact, the kingdom of God is among you" (Luke 17.20-21).
Either Jesus had direct knowledge of another dimension we know has Heaven or he was one of the very first to grasp the concept of M-Theory. It's incredible no matter what you believe.
LordSupro 2 years ago
Very astute observations.
There are those who hold that, what is described as the coming of the Kingdom of God on earth, will actually be a shift into a higher dimension caused by a great global catastrophe.
Any soul which is not vibrating within the frequency of peace and love will not be able to pass through into this dimension. This supposed to be what Jesus meant when he said "narrow is the gate by which one may enter into the Kingdom of Heaven."
For those who remain... hell on earth.
Capn0bvious 2 years ago
Do quantum physics explain the existance of God or did the early writers of the Bible actually stumble upon quantum physics and not even know it? This is the crucial question of our age, IMO.
LordSupro 2 years ago
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Meejoe27 2 years ago
Heck, maybe the Green pantheon actually exist in these dimensions...
copperblade 2 years ago
Greek, I meant Greek.
copperblade 2 years ago
I'm an atheists and I agree with you, M-Theory (the new String Theory) is a load of crap.
KitKat5781 2 years ago
To answer the question on the description. The reason scientists believe in those things is that they use reason and mathematics. They didnt pulled that out of a 2000 year old book. Or even state that what they believe is the absolute truth.They just follow the evidence and reason. Is that the same as saying that a magic man created the universe and cares about some arbitrary aspects of someones life ? I dont think so.
tekhiun 2 years ago
I think the difference between science and religion is that science can change. Theories can change and be improved on.
I don't have a problem with the idea of God or religious belief itself, what I don't like about it is the claim that their answers are final and aren't to be questioned. That still doesn't mean somebody that believes in God can't be a great scientists. Georges Lamaitre believed in God, and he proposed the Big Bang theory.
Thelaofkazi 2 years ago
Although I know of quite a few atheists that thought it would be a good idea to bring dogma into science...
So I guess you could say it goes both ways. I would still say that most of it has come from religion, but that might just because religion had a few thousand years start. Don't worry, give science a millennium or 2 and we'll have science churches controlling the masses :D. Everything has the possibility to become dogmatic.
Thelaofkazi 2 years ago
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83zeus 2 years ago
You are entirely aware that atheism has nothing to do with supporting theoretical physics? M theory should be something for you to look at....if you want to believe that these proposed dimensions allow living space for the supernatural, then I will throw in that batman lives in one of them as well. If you don't understand physics, just shut it.
hellasweet4twizzle 2 years ago
The fact of the matter is this; no one, not even physicists "understand physics" at more than a very basic level. Ask one yourself and see.
If you don't understand that, you should not be telling anyone to shut it.
And since your personal info declares that you have no respect for the beliefs of others, I feel no compunction whatsoever in telling you to go fuck yourself.
Have a nice day.
Capn0bvious 2 years ago
Love it man.I just found out about string theory & I am so intrigued.Imagine the possibilities.God may very well exist & even He may have a God & so on infinitely.
thegreatcrates 2 years ago
Disclaimer: My knowledge of string theory is limited to a bewildered "huh?" after reading a bit about it (and watching a few youtube clips).
It's my understanding that the math supports string theory (perhaps more correctly string hypothesis?), but there hasn't been any testing for it.. yet. I think that's one of the major jobs of LHC.
It all comes back to evidence again. At the moment I'm ignorant of ST, but if LHC proves it, I'll bust out the books and learn about it.
bersaba 2 years ago 2
Thanks for your comments.
However I didn't "say that the supernatural hides in extra dimensions", I entertained it as a possibility. Which, I believe, is not only within the bounds of proper logic and reasoning but is the very first step in the process.
We'll all find out soon enough whether there is anything to the God question, don't you think?
Peace.
Capn0bvious 2 years ago
would you care to explain how the supernatural is within the bounds of logic and reason ?? Why should it be the first step of the process when every single time it has been done, the assumption turns out to be wrong. Please do explain this.
tekhiun 2 years ago
Actually, I'd like you to explain how the supernatural is OUT of the bounds of logic and reason. I've already made my case.
Capn0bvious 2 years ago
Well supernatural by definition means something that does not conform to the laws of nature. You can't produce conclusive logic to a system where an (logical) atom can be both true and false for example. I will repeat my second question: Why should the supernatural be the first step of the process when every single time it has been, the assumption turns out to be wrong. Please do explain this.
tekhiun 2 years ago
Nobody said it had to be the first, or any, step in your own personal process.
These are my own beliefs and my own opinions. Why do you care what I believe? Why should I care what some faceless person thousands of miles away believes?
Please do explain that.
Capn0bvious 2 years ago
silly billy.If ya can't touch it smell it or taste it and it doesn't interact in any way in your life you can just fuggetaboutit...........wake up and smell reality ya twat
Rockster969 2 years ago
So you're saying that the entirety of the Universe outside of our solar system (which none of us can touch, smell, taste and which doesn't in any way interact with our lives) doesn't exist?
That's an interesting reality you're asking me to sniff there, Professor. I think I like my version better.
Capn0bvious 2 years ago
I understand "delusional" is a bit harsh, but I can't see the logic in the comparison you make. "Belief" in the sense of rational truth statements is a matter of collected evidence and assessed probabilities.
For the comparison to work effectively, one would need to produce comparable evidence for the specific definition of god(s) that one is asserting. Would you honestly say the question of God's existence is on the same evidentiary playing field as gravitational theory or quantum theory?
theblue92 2 years ago
f Theoretical Physicists can believe in invisible dimensions and unseen realms without being ridiculed, why can't religious people. If there really are something like 10 or 11 dimensions around us, who is to say that those dimensions are not what the Bible calls "heaven" or "hell" or even "God"?
BECAUSE THEY TRY TO PROOF OR PROOF WHAT EXIST AND EXPLAINN IT THE BIBLE JUST GIVES U SOMETHING TO BELIEVE BTW I BELIEVE IN GOD
Adventfred 2 years ago
OKAY! THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS!
Capn0bvious 2 years ago
Thanks. I'm preaching to the choir, but if you enjoyed this video you will also enjoy Painting with the Big Bang of Genesis-- another YT video. You can see the strings symbolically represented and form a universe. Visually inspiring and the brand new Posr Conceptual Art of the 21st Century.
JudyReyWasserman 2 years ago
Prove the virgin birth of Jesus by Mary.
You point to the Bible?
Well, I wanted to let you know my friend Susie had a virgin birth too to her son Kuz-Kuz.
How do I know?
Well she told me and so did her family and friends.
I believe her because she said so and why would she lie? Furthermore, why would her family and friends lie to me as well?
ITakeYourFood 2 years ago
Tell Susie I said congratulations. If Kuz-Kuz starts walking on water or anything, let me know.
Capn0bvious 2 years ago
you neither refuted or agreed with my argument.
So tell me, was Jesus' birth a miracle in the sense that Mary did not have physically have sex with another man?
ITakeYourFood 2 years ago
You should not give so much power to the beliefs of others.
It's not healthy.
Capn0bvious 2 years ago
Well, that was the point I was making.
You should follow your own statement. You gave power to the belief of others, in this case, the people who wrote the Bible.
;)
ITakeYourFood 2 years ago
If there's one thing i am annoyed about is the ' Delusional ' banded around concerning theists, my guess is people took a hold of Richard Dawkins ' The God Delusion ' and ran wild with it!. Dawkins isn't even qualified in his field to say believers are delusional in general, there is plenty of evidences for atheists that are psychiatric delusionals! People are actually abusing that psychiatric word ' Delusional ' & boy that is at present Peeing me off!
shelley0809 2 years ago
I agree that many of today's new atheists cannot do more than mindlessly regurgitate anti-religious screeds from popular atheist authors, without having any real knowledge of religion.
But in fairness, the same thing can be said about many, many Christians who cannot do more than regurgitate Bible passages, but don't have any real knowledge of Christianity.
Capn0bvious 2 years ago
Now that Capn0bvious i wholeheartily agree with!....Still, we can chuckle at that situation and make jokes of ' the pot calling the kettle black, when the pot is black too '. Haha!
Peace
shelley0809 2 years ago
Atheism can be as delusional and unbelievable as certain theistic beliefs.
MastaChiefy 2 years ago
It's not delusional to come up with theories and ideas that attempt to explain phenomena. All great theories are subject to scrutiny before they are accepted... remember Albert Einsteins Eclipse Experiment... the day his calculations were finally proven.
The problem many atheists have with biblical claims is they cannot be tested or proven, and have become "hands off" when it comes to criticism, a strange luxury especially given the burning criticism your average atheist receives.
Volte6 2 years ago
What is religion to a non-religious person, if not a theory of origin?
Every theory must be tested and subject to scrutiny, which shouldn't be looked down upon... the pursuit of truth is an amazing and powerful thing.
Lets hope the Large Hadron Collider yields some interesting data! Rest assured, if there was a test that could prove the existence of God or Metaphysical claims then scientists and atheists alike would all be dancing in the streets! All we want is truth without blind faith.
Volte6 2 years ago
Remember, science is the pursuit of knowledge! It's important to render any claims we, a preacher, or a book make about the world to the same scrutiny and process as any other theory. From a non-religious stand point, what is religion if not a theory of origin?
It's hard for any faction to see things from the other sides perspective, but open mindedness is the bridge to understanding.
One thing is for certain, if science could prove the existance of God, we would all be dancing in the streets.
Volte6 2 years ago
The scientific method exists to test our many zany ideas as humans... whether to prove or disprove them. Lets not forget that Gregory Mendel was the father of genetics, and he was an Augustinian Priest!
String theory receives mixed reviews in the scientific community, and thus far is completely untestable. They can write mathematical equations that compute but cannot make a testable prediction, and so currently falls far short of "What science knows".
Volte6 2 years ago
Absents of evidence is not evidence for absents
ShinobiDJ79 2 years ago
Things just ' are ' the rest is a human perception in a collective of the ' Human State '.
Good Video Capn0bvious. Both of some religions and sciences are derived from the human condition & state. Nice to hear your intelligent views.
shelley0809 2 years ago
I don't think all atheists are ' Delusional ' the same as not all ' Theists ' from one denomination or another is ' Delusional ' i think it's possible that you will find some atheists as well as theists can be ' delusional ' , however this is a label put on those people by professionals qualified to say whether or not a person is delusional or not. The string theory is ' imaginative ' which is a natural occurance in a human being. A belief as we know it.
shelley0809 2 years ago
Great response, bugogurac. Another thought, science never "proves" anything; it either supports or fails to support hypotheses. "Proof" is for other ways of knowing.
sieghi 2 years ago
For instance, if "strings" stretched into membranes or multiple dimensions are responsible for everything, what are "strings"? What are they made of? Where did the first "string" come from? And the problem is the same for God. If God created everything, what is God? Where did God come from? Humans are very used to everything having a beginning, and an end. Infinite regression is something our brains are not set up to deal with.
Dangerville 2 years ago
Faith in (something) is universal. Either you have faith an unseen God, or you have faith in theoretical physics. Unfortunately, string theory is based only in complex mathematical equations, and God is based only on the word of a book written long before people knew what an atom was. I think that the draw in being an atheist is the lack of intelligence in the creation of everything. Not everything has a purpose, it just is. But either way, the problem is infinite regression.
Dangerville 2 years ago
Love your stuff man. I have complete respect for your opinion and views. I do feel it necessary to point out that string theory doesn't believe that magical devils and demons are waiting to poke me in the rear. (you can take that whatever way u want)Then theres the whole thing where science likes to get to the bottom of things even if it means being wrong, instead of saying"you just have to have faith". (I guess somehow that makes it fact). I'm not an Atheist or Christian or Dummy(debatable)
panzer4u 2 years ago
Two differences.
Scientists don't claim their ideas as the final and only truth. They are very ready to be disproved.
Second and more important is that their ideas do not come out of the literary work or just out of imagination. They come out of the long string of mathematical formulas, backed by logic. Now, since our brain is imperfect, there is a good reason for doubt. But there is logic behind it, and a lots of answers to any "why" or "how". Can't say that for the religious.
bugogorac 2 years ago
Who says there can be no reason behind believing in God. Not all religious people are living with their eyes wide shut. No one, absolutely no one can be certain of what the "truth" is. Scientific theories have been proven wrong and scientists have had to continually revise and adjust their theories under assumption after assumption simply because human knowledge is limited as you said. So how can anyone be 100% percent certain God doesn't exist when they can't prove it.
DiamondwithFlaws 2 years ago
I don't see me. I am a place.
Tiredofcrap 2 years ago
pick up your hand and look at it or better yet look in the mirror. So you say you can't see yourself?
vxsouthxv 2 years ago
Here is the difference.
Modern physics has pats about it that can not yet be proved. However, if you follow modern physics you can predict things to a very precise margin. Like what time the sun will rise in 1,000,000 years.
Religion also asks you to take a leap of faith, but the last time I checked jesus never predicted anything that has yet come true with any regularity.
Maybe I should read revalations again.
ideapeddler 3 years ago