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  • This disgusting propaganda created by uneducated ignoramouses has plagued the intelligence of our society for far too long.

  • bwahahahaha first sentance , oh my sides hurt, bwahahahahaa

    human eye, I feel a quote-mine coming ...

    natural selection and further mutations, maybe some other errors too.

    yup, human eye today, and 2000 years ago, same thing , and even earlier.

    von Braun was not a biologist, his expert opinion scarcely matters.

  • ''Evolutionists say............ '' and then they screw it up and then the strawman arguments start.

  • they quote the beginning of charles' book when he is only starting on his thesis's. Its like seeing Snape and making the conclusion that he is evil even thought the reason he killed Dumbledore and he joined the death eaters was so that harry would live. SO YOU KNOW WHAT ?? YOU ARE OBSURD !

  • @rosie0posey1000 you mean "absurd"

  • @histguy101 Yerrrrr..... I can't believe i spelt absurd like obsurd. I dont know what is wrong with me. Haha

  • why would and intelligent designer create humans, animals, trees etc etc, did he do it to amuse himself or to say to others gods "look what i did aren't i smart ' we invent and design and create new things to help us with daily life to make time on this planet easier and more bearable, what as humans could we possibly do for some all knowing all powerfull being, this is what i have trouble coming to terms with.

  • There you have one very stupid women!

  • This is the second time that she has suggested that we have extended the age of the Earth to prove evolution.

    The age of the Earth stands up under its own steam, and if it were proven to be 6000 years old, Evolution would be disproven.

  • Is the narrator of this video one of the lower mutant forms of life that we are supposed to have evolved from?

  • I gave her the finger after less then a minute. :I

  • OMFG. shut up bitch. stop saying "accidentally"

  • ''Evolution says.....'' and then they screw it up.

  • Evolution says.... " some statements that are logical, based on research and observation

    then your holy book says...." the most stupid things that ever could be written down" true story!

  • Ug. What a load of bullshit propaganda.

    I am certain she knows that she is misrepresenting facts. What confuses me is how somebody of a faith professing honestly can be so dishonest.

  • Hurray for creationists quoting out of context, They continently left of the next 2 sentences of Darwin's quote.... the ending of it summarizes his real thoughts "..., then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, should not be considered as subversive of the theory."

  • Pretty sure God is a MAC fag, wonder what king of design software he uses though.

  • Yay lets use a Nazi who believes in god, just like hitler, to justify there beliefs.

  • Great video!!!

  • I'm watching all of these and laughing my ass off.

  • Von Brawn ( I admit I spelled his name wrong) was not only head of NASA but was also head of the NAZI rocket program....good person for these assholes to use as an example

  • @shwank1968 And they then turn around and blame evolution for the holocaust. Amazingly hypocritical.

  • Let me ask you a question. If I said the sun orbited the Earth, and I got a bunch of quoted from people who study human anatomy, would you believe me? Of course not! Then why are all your quotes refuting evolution from people who studied space?

  • And when you read Darwin's quote about the eye being impossible, why didn't you finish the quote? Darwin finishes by saying that when you think about it, it is not very hard for the eye to be made through natural selection.

  • Every part of the eye doesn't have to appear all at once you idiot!

  • given extreme amounts of time, even something seemingly extremely improbable, becomes probable.

  • God how I love all these ad hominems....geesh...

  • Light sensitive cells cane be seen all through the animal kingdom. Plankton can be seen to have eyes and even lower done the evolution scale light sensitive cell are present. The eye is a bad example for a structure that has not evolved. It as really a good example of change over time into a more complex structure. These creations seem not have studied information that is available for any one to review . As Biologist with degree it hard to under stand their logic.

  • why do only creationists have short skirts that sit on studying desks ?

  • lol religious people are weak people who only want to live in world where when they are asked a question there is only one answer....god did it.... why was there a tornado.....god did it.......why was there an earthquake.......god did it........ WOW I NEVER KNEW WE LIVED IN SUCH A SIMPLE WORLD, DOES THAT MEAN THAT RELIGOUS PEOPLE CAN PUT DOWN ON AN EXAM GOD DID IT AND THEYLL BE RIGHT???? COME PEOPLE USE YOUR EVOLUTIONIZED BRAIN!!!!!!!!!

  • It's programs like this that are destroying today's educational programs

  • MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM The musky smell of HOME SKOOLING .

  • is it just me or does she sound like Mr. garison from southpark when he talked about evolution

  • Great Video there is no proof for Evolution. (Not any.) I have looked for many years.

  • @Hsojaml ''Evolutionists say............'' and then they fuck it up.

  • @Hsojaml My suggestion, leave the creationists bullshit webpages, go to a biology class and read some proper science.

  • @Hsojaml Where? In the Bible? The evidence is overwhelming.

  • We are still waiting for real evidence. Not finding one tooth in the dirt then drawing an ape with feet. There is still absolutely no evidence for evolution. This has been proven as the oldest layers of earth that are "millions of years old" Have the exact same types of Animals that exist today in it.. they are only bigger as time goes back... weird how real evidence works isnt it...

  • @MG42pillbox "Not finding one tooth in the dirt then drawing an ape with feet." U do know that that ape was drawn by an artist in a popular magazine and the discoverer of the tooth strongly opposed of it. It was a figment on someone's imagination. And if you'd know how evolution actually works you'd know why similar animals exist in the older layers. Please, go do some serious research then come back and "debunk" some serious science.

  • @MG42pillbox An addition, the image drawn was not drawn OR accepted by ANY scientist or scientific journal because it was a ludicrous idea to draw a full skeleton from a single tooth. It is your kind of people, the creationist, how are simply too stupid to realize this and try to use it as a "hoax". Let me remind you that it was the very scientific community that you oppose which has exposed and denied publishing so many blatant lies and forgeries.

  • @MG42pillbox ''This has been proven as the oldest layers of earth that are "millions of years old" Have the exact same types of Animals that exist today in it.'' Either you're lying or you're completly uneducated. There's a clear pattern in the layers of earth, in the oldest layers we see primitive bacterias and as the layers get more recent animals get more develloped. THE MORE YOU KNOW

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  • I'm Brian and so is my wife.......

  • This woman's brain stopped developing when she was 3 years old. She has no fuckin' clue of anything she is talking about.

  • Evolutionists say.............and then the fuck it up!

  • You evolutionist can't get by the truth.

  • If they eye is perfect then howcome everyting we see has to be corrected by the brain to show images the right way up.

  • Who is this woman anyway?

  • That evolution is not true makes not that God excist, that God not exist makes evolution not true.

  • @martin2088 What is true then?

  • Nobody knows

  • @martin2088 Yes we do. This video proves that everything Yahweh said in His word is true and that evolution is the fairytale.

  • I life in Israel and speak hebrew , nobody here says Yahweh, but when they have to say it because it is not alowed it is Jehova

  • @martin2088 Not allowed?? Why?

  • @Soul4JC The Jews developed a superstitious fear of taking the

    Lord’s name in vain according to the warning of Ex. 20:7, and consequently

    stopped pronouncing it.

  • google Doe's Account.

  • in the clip the lady says that even children wouldn't believe this pure fantasy (saying that children are stupid) yet less then 30 seconds later she wants us to be more like children i think that is jsut shows the intelligence of this lady

  • I think my favourite line is the eye is either perfect, or perfectly useless. I suppose they have never heard of colour blindness. A person with colour blindness has an eye that doesnt function perfectly.

  • If this a purposefully blunt lie it is very preoccupying.... I don't belive it is.... I tink this is just bad teaching or the highest degree of ignorance. It is obvious that these people never oppened a text book and understood what was written there....

    Or perhaps they just don't allow themselves to comprehend because they are feverishly trying to uphold their literal beliefs about the bible.....

    Soooooo much denial.......... they live in a sad world, paranoid even...

  • "sometimes we become to smart for our own good" = thinking is not desirable for religion. If you're to smart, get lobotomised and you shall find god

  • all this movie is wiked in all new level and it shows haw same people are realy retarted

  • Even if these creationists are right, that doesnt change the fact that the bible is silly and abdurd.

  • lol. why?

  • @DouglasFresh8181 because of all the violence in it. Because when you sit back and really think about what you're reading, about how God is all loving but yet he will punish you eternally for not believing the right things. Not even temporarily, eternally for not beleiving something that has absolutely no evidence with it. The bible says that the world is a circle when a circle is actually flat. The bible says to drink poison and you will not get harmed. I got lots more dude. Hit me up.

  • Feel free to read ANY Book of the filogenic development of the eye system and you will see that this FAT BITCH is the proof that man really became from an ape-like descendent, and that evolution does, sometimes, make mistakes!!!

  • too smart for their own good, in other words, stay stupid and use blind faith as a guide through life. Well, lets see how far that will take human society.

    Oh wait, I know, lets look back into history and see what happens during dark ages.

  • Hmm.. Another Christian fundie disabling ratings on propaganda.

    It is embarrassing to think of how far behind America is falling in the world science race, all because of some backward, religious fanatics with a microphone.

  • Don't worry, we here in the Europe, love it, stupidity of so many Americans entertains us.

    Thank you guys, we owe you :D

    LOL, take care !

  • @AinEstonia

    No problem!

    As the vast majority of Americans are the direct descendants of Europeans, you should be thanking yourselves for sending your best and brightest to start this fiasco!

    Cheers!

  • Yep, America back at those days tried to move forward, away from the Dark Ages. America today tries to get back to those days, at least some people appear to want to do that.

  • Agreed. Some Americans today have completely forgotten that the founding fathers fled from the then European pattern of persecution, but are now attempting to reestablish what their great grandfathers escaped!

    Now Europe is flourishing, and The US is in decline.

    I will say though, don't judge all Americans too quickly.

    Here, even bumbling idiots can afford camcorders, and it's those same assholes that Europeans love to lock onto and say "Look, an American!"

    FYI, check out AronRa's FFoC series.

  • I'm not judging all Americans, just because some people of a specific group are dumb doesn't mean that all of them are dumb.

    I was joking btw, hope I didn't offend you :)

    Take care, mate !

  • No offense taken! I kinda thought you were joking, but after as many "Look how dumb all Americans are!" comments I've seen, you start to think maybe the other side actually believes it!

    It's all in good fun.

    Take care!

  • @AinEstonia

    Here's the fifth.

    /watch?v=HzmbnxtnMB4

  • LOL to smart for our own good.. everything she said around this point made me lose any respect I had for her argument at all

  • This woman is totally full of shit......

  • you made this little video to proclaim that evolution never was, then explain not just to me, but to the world how so many different fossils have bin found throughout the years. Explain how many animals including humans have bin found in the past looking in different manner. This is not my first, nor my last time i will respond to a "bogus" video like this one.

  • Evolving an eye is actually quite simple. In fact, eyes have independantly evolved over 5 times in the course of history.

  • @1hemidemisemi

    How can blind chance make a seeing eye?

  • @Eye2EyeIIIV

    Photosensitive parietal brain tissue is exposed through the surface of the skin. At this point, the eye cannot "see", it can only detect when the environment is dark or light. After several million years the eye becomes cup-shaped to improve depth perception and develops a lens and protective membrane. Since they are essential in any environment, eyes have evolved in almost every animal group in mind-numbing variety. Look up "evolution of the eye" on wikipedia for more info.

  • it's pronounced VERNER, not WERNER, Dummkopf! Grammar Nazism aside, this whole program has been idiotic.

  • hey guys its not really chance, everything that happens is caused by something else. chance is just a word used for: unpredictable natural occurences, AKA history. mutations are just as "random" as napolean losing the battle of waterloo, unpredictable(kinda) but not random. (that may be a bad example but it proves my point anyway)

  • Evolution is not a chance process. Mutations occur by chance which produces variation. This variation is what undergoes selection. This selection is very much not a chance process. The characteristics that are selected for in this 'ocean' of variation are very distinct and the selection is governed by the environmental pressures.

    These people need to take a class on evolution before they discredit it.They should remember that scientists are not out there to commit fraud.Theyre after the truth.

  • Clearly these people don't actually understand evolution!

    And it's not the biologists that have changed the age of the Earth over the decades to suit evolution. That knowledge comes from a different field and obviously supports evolution.

  • I love how they make it seem like scientists want to defend evolution for some other reason then that it is correct.

  • That part quoting Darwin is a typical example of quote-mining.

    If you will read the whole passage from which the quotation is taken, you will see how creationists are "creating evidence" for their lies.

    And then just think further: if they are capable of such straight-face lie, what about the rest of their so called "evidence"?

    Please search youtube for:

    "Ep 1: Waking Up in the Universe - Growing Up in the Universe - Richard Dawkins"

    Bit old, but yet a wonderful educational material. Enjoy.

  • Werner Van Braun really the former nazi and major in the SS during WW2. Who was only saved from the war crime trial for his work

  • Wow SUPER FAIL! Statistics works for predicting the chance of events in the future, not in the present. If I see a license plate "ABC-123" I can't go "wow what are the chances that I would see THAT license plate! Although there are many license plates the fact that the event has occured means there is no other alternative. If I woke up in the morning and determined what are the chances that I would see license plate "ABC-123" then this is valid because there is the chance that I would not see it

  • it would be favorable for the human species for the extinction of religious people

  • Am I the only one who want to slap this women in the face?

  • Now they quote a former Nazi to disprove Evolution.

    Great!

  • Creation = crap......but believe what ever you want to

  • Werner Van Braun? WHAT..oh tell me WHAT the hell does he have to do with evolution? His opinion on evolution is probably as valid as mine- he had NO training whatsoever he attended Technical University in berlin and studied maths and physics.

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  • Another facepalm-worthy segment.

    So, let me summarize: you quote-mined Darwin to misrepresent what he actually said by not reading the rest of that paragraph which refutes the challenge about the eye. And you brought on some tech-savvy people who can't imagine how the eye could have formed over time, and that proves "magic?"

    And you like to say "accidentally" and "random" alot, when no scientific person would actually say that. Sorry, but you suck. And lose.

  • i would not be able to be in a room with this woman for one single minute

  • The thing they don't understand is that something, like the eye, did not have to evolve. Suppose the eye did more harm than good, and something like echolocation was better, then we would all be using that. Or, the human eye could have gone a completely different way, perhaps if the atmosphere had depleted some and more ultraviolet rays had come in. Nothing in evolution is certain, and will only stay if it is beneficial. Saying the body can't change is like saying an embryo or baby can't grow up

  • Exactly. They look at it backwards. They see how life is, then just ASSUME this the ONLY way it could ever be, therefore the fact that conditions favour this life is proof of God's design or whatever not considering the fact that life could have been ANY thing. Even the argument that everything is just right is daft- the earth did not provide oxygen so we may live, rather WE are the ones who adapted and evolved lungs for aerobic respiration.

  • i recommend a book on evolution because these people don't know shit about it

  • This doc calls the president and founder of NASA a genius?

    They should've asked Steve Jobs to participate because he has as much connection to knowing about biology as the creator of NASA....wtf ASK ME I'm in advertising!

  • First she sayd: it was by natural selection then she sayd: It all happend by random change, evreything was created randomly.

    CAN´T YOU FUCKING DECIDE!?

  • She knows what she's saying. She's being a manipulative bitch by trying to subliminally (although, blatantly) suggest that natural selection means "random chance".

    If she seriously wants to try to debunk Evolution, she should try it without the propaganda. I bet she can't do it!

  • My goodness, a worthless piece of jesus propaganda.

  • Living with Glaucoma myself, show me the purpose of the INTELLIGENT design.

  • Pride can cloud our judgement, and thinking of yourself as being created with a purpose from a divine being doesn't tap into that at all...

  • Oh dear, oh dear!! SO many mistakes in this video. I really hope that people don't take this seriously, although my hopes may be feeble. The biggest mistake was when she said that all of the components of the eye randomly formed at exactly the right place on the body, at exactly the same time. Firstly, they DIDN'T randomly form. The eye adapted and adjusted and improved over time; from the first "visual" species, to the human. Also, humans don't have the best vision... the Mobius spider does.

  • @chrisimonblake A year later.. I know.

    What proof is there of "The eye adapted and adjusted and improved over time; from the first "visual" species, to the human."?

  • evolutionist....show me the transitional forms and we will take you seriously.........and if evolution is real then why arent there intermediate creatures right now?????? and please if you think there are please dont give me something that lives in the ocean. geez everytime and evolutionist claims they have a transitional fossil its related to something in the ocean...god is real and you must believe!!!

  • There ARE intermediate creatures all around!!! Do you honestly think that all the creatures in the world are in their final "perfect" form?? Even we are still evolving. Who knows what we will look like, or what attributes we will have in millions of years to come. In case you didn't know, the "attached" earlobe is an evolved ear. All humans will eventually have them. LONG time to go though.

  • The attached earlobe is an evolved ear????? I learned in grade 6 that is due to genetics not evolution. So is the blue eye due to evolution as well? And is blond hair also a mutation? You'll grasp at anything to try to prove that evolution exists.

  • Guess waht else is to do with genetics! yes, evolution. mutations are innacuratly copied parts of genetic code, and yes, blond hair is also a mutation. Also, with regard to "intermediate creatures", google the lungfish. its a fish with lungs (as the name suggests.) still think that there are no transitional forms?

  • 1: Every fossil is a transitional fossil

    2: Every creature on earth is a intermediate creature.

    If you believe anything else than it is obvious that you don't know what evolution is and you are not justified in making a valid scientific consensus.

  • For the purpose of this argument, lets admit that evolution is wrong.

    What proves God in such a case?

    If we admit that a god exist for the purpose of this other argument. What god is the right one? Zeus ?

  • there are lightnings and electricity, so ...

    yes zeus did it XD

  • This has been demonstrated as absolute nonsense countless times, in books, videos, and in courts! The eys is far from perfect, it has a blind spot due to bad 'design' of optical nerve running over the retina. There are also better eyes separately evolved in nature. The Darwin quote is deliberately taken out of context. If you actually read the book, Darwin's next line answers the question. Finally, Evolution is not random chance. Such a claim demonstrates that you don't understand it.

  • I hate how they make it sound like complete accident, and while random chance does play a part, it is a lot more to do with what works, and what is a more surviving trait.

  • The lady in the video makes an ironclad case for creation. Evolution gets blown out of the water using Darwin's own words. Read it and weep atheists! YOU LOSE! LOL :)

  • If only it were true. Darwin was quote mined. Try reading the whole quote.

  • ignorance is bliss...

  • seems like most people are okay with that. it's a scary thought.

  • Why are they using quotes from engineers and scientists that are in fields of science that are completely unrelated to biology? Also the Darwin quote is taken out of context as you read further on on the same page, he explains how the eye evolved.

  • Wow, countless ways to refute the evolution of eye, ofcourse you will take as few as posible...

    And the first one is to "quote" Darwin.

    And the second... Oh man... this one is so fucking lame.

    So explain the nautilus damn it... it has half an eye.

    You guys are so stupid... I can't believe it.

    And then you say again that it can't just happen, the whole thing at once...

    This is not only a strawman argument... You were making the strawman in front of our eyes.

  • she is kinda hot..very stupid but still kinda hot...I like...

  • You ain't whistling Dixie. Especially that scene where she's sitting at the end of the desk and her skirt hikes up. I'd bend her over so fast it'd make her head spin.

  • Ken Ham, brilliant! Keep up the good work.

  • not a sunspot, more like light sensitive cells that happened through random mutation. This dramatically increased the probability of survival of those genes and, hence, they became more abundant in the population. The same process applies to the "best" light sensitive patches. By the way, quotes are not evidence, even if they were made by intelligent people.

  • why are the ratings disabled?

  • By the way, just read Exodus 20, those are NOT the kind of laws I was talking about... ugh...

    I was referring to causality. Causal laws, like physics and chemistry.

    NOT stuff like "Thou shalt not..."

    More like "If _____ then ______"

    Kind of like IF something exists and has mass, then it attracts all other things that exist and have mass, and the force of attraction is proportionate to their mass and distance from each other.

    That's a causal law. It causes stars, planets, orbit

  • dynamic* sorry

  • As Albert Einstein said, God does not play dice.

    I don't believe in God. However, in the universe, things don't happen by chance. There are these things called causal physical laws.

    The CHANCES of every planet and star beng round, when there are so many shapes to choose from, is SO improbable! But if you understand causal physical laws, you can EXPLAIN WHY they are all round.

    Similarly, the eye didn't form via a probability equation! It is causal physical laws that guide all life.

  • Your right to think laws guide us. Yahuvehs laws guides us which are written in Exodus 20. To keep these laws is the purpose of all mankind, Ecclesiastes12:13-14

  • Alright. Then this creationist woman should stop lying, by saying that evolution is random and driven by chance. It isn't. It's driven by the same phsyical causal laws that control everything. You can believe that's God, if you want, but it doesn't change the fact that life is dynamis and changes over time.

  • Noone said that the world was formed by chance. They always bring that up as an example, followed by a bunch of nonsense that means nothing. In time, science will discover exactly why the universe was formed.

  • The Christians already have.

  • If all you can do is insult the use of an object used in this, that proves to me that you are just against Creation regardless of logic.

  • hear hear!

  • funny that they illustrate with the flying (blue, in this case) teapot to show how the eye works. Should we take this as a evidence that creationist believe in the flying teapot as well as a creator?

    What a powerful alliance against evolution. The allmighty teapot and God, together against science!!

  • Hey she's got to cover all the bases. Believe in god or teapot, it doesn't matter she just want's your donations.

  • this is totally misleading the concept of natural selection. her definition of it are just words and phrases that have been twisted around..

  • wow and she actually said that scrap metal will become alive and evolve itself over time. according to evolution.

  • no shit the eye is complex? but why talk about a humans eye to prove creation? lol. i can just tell by listening that this is so misleading. trying to turn around quotes and concepts of science into uneducated logic. so dumb.

  • Okay, lets see what we got:

    appeal to authority, argument by selective reading, common sense rallacy, bad analogy and out right lying.

    NATURAL SELECTION IS NOT CHANCE, IT IS THE OPPOSITE OF CHANCE. THE MUTATIONS ARE CHANCE BUT NOT THE FACT THAT GOOD ONE STICK AROUND.

    Harrier Jump Jets do not reproduce. One of the tenets of evolution is reproduction with random variability. (Read: small differences from that of mom and dad) Therefore that argument is bullshit.

  • I wonder of she is talking about Wernher von Braun, the nazi and SS scientist that help with the Nazi's V-2 development. I really don't give a shit what this former NAZI collaboratore thinks about god.

  • Why do they keep trying to compare biological systems against mechanical systems?

    Other than trying to kid us into believing that biological systems are manufactured!

  • that woman is the devil

  • Lies of things that children have invented:

    The steam engine

    The automobile

    The incubator

    The personal computer

    What shut we du if we dent think as children!

  • all you evolutionists make me laugh. how do you not understand?

  • Understand what? That she is lying, withholding information, misleading, quoting nazi's, or just plain stupid?

  • Don't know what it is about this woman, but I am so out-of-control hot for her. I spend about half my day fantasizing about sticking my finger in her rectum while performing oral sex on her. A shame that Christian women don't go for that kind of stuff.

  • I would offer her $250,000 to let me cornhole her. I wonder if that would sway her Christian sexual morals any...?

  • I would love to get Richard Dawkins in the same room with this woman. LOL, Dawkins would NAIL her!

  • the eye couldn't function without tears? errr ... didn't they say the first eye belonged to fish? and BTW, fish don't have eye leads.

    and you don't HAVE to have a lens, many people have an ok life with bad eye sight.

  • at around 4:12 you can see the entire agenda of this video

    the religious people are afraid of smart people and they want to make people think like children again

    and who are the people who are most susceptible to fairy tales ... children

    this video is disgusting

  • Any complex structure may have been done by natural selection over millions of years, it doesn't matter how complex it is.

  • "Any complex structure may have been done by natural selection over millions of years, it doesn't matter how complex it is."

    This argument has been trashed hundreds of times. I won't waste my time on it anymore.

  • Irreducible complexity has never been argued successfully.

    Usually IDists use the whale or the bacteria flagellum as examples. Both of these have been SCIENTIFICALLY researched in response to IDists, and the research very much falls in line with evolutionary theory.

    Furthermore, irreducible complexity is a philosophical attack on a SCIENTIFIC theory. It carries zero weight. Evolution is a 150 year old, falsifiable theory, and it has never been falsified SCIENTIFICALLY.

  • This particular segment really made me realize the Love of God - He is so amazing. I fall to my knees in Worship of Him.

    We are so blessed to have the privilege of knowing something of our Great God and Creator. I hope I go to heaven - because heaven is where God is.

  • What violates the very objectivity of science itself is making philosophical arguments as a person of authority and claiming that they are science.

    On the other hand, the issues of the evolution of the eye and other appendages have been successfully described in scientific journals, researched, and peer-reviewed. I would suggest taking a look at "The origin and evolution of animal appendages" - Panganiban et al. Published in PNAS

    Also, I hope I go to hell, if heaven is where you go.

  • "Also, I hope I go to hell, if heaven is where you go."

    Well, no worries - you don't believe in God anyway, so it won't matter where I end up.

    I have often said that peer reviewed articles is like taking a vote on whether or not the cats ought to eat the mouse. The so called "peers" are just a bunch of guys in the same club. Evolutionists calling themselves scientists is an oxymoron. Evolution became a religion a long time ago.

  • "I have often said that peer reviewed articles is like taking a vote on whether or not the cats ought to eat the mouse."

    Sorry I never caught those words of wisdom before. I have heard plenty of professors, aspiring professors, and grad students (who have actually dealt with peer-review) describe it as one of the most excruciating and frustrating experiences of their lives.

    Not to mention, attacking the peer-review process does not damage the credibility of a single product of peer-review.

  • Also, I don't generally trust opinions that have incorrect subject/verb agreement.

  • "Also, I don't generally trust opinions that have incorrect subject/verb agreement."

    And this is fine. Its just that you do not seem to have sufficient understanding that evolutionists also have subjective opinions and consistently try to force feed it as "science"

  • Subject/verb agreement has nothing to do with subjectivity.

    Ex: It mean you doesn't knows hows to writes moron.

    Creationists are Jesus-lovers first and scientists second. They have a vested interest in creationism being the case. Some of them are so nuts that they think all morality stands on creation's foundation alone. What motivation does a person who supports evolutionary theory have other than to find and support the most accurate description available?

  • "Not to mention, attacking the peer-review process does not damage the credibility of a single product of peer-review."

    Well, with someone that is intellectually honest, its pretty obvious that evolutionists are predisposed to an evolutionary bent before they even begin.

    Whats amazing is that there are several peer-reviewed articles that have since proven FALSE.

    You guys are amazing. Not very smart though.